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The internet has wrought huge changes on our lives – both positive and negative – in the fifteen years since its use became widespread. Matthew Moore has created a list of 50 things that are being killed by the internet in his article in The Telegraph. He hopes to get reader feedback and include the best suggestions in a fuller list.

-> www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/6133903/50-things-that-are-being-killed-by-t...

Discussion:
(1) Do you agree with his selections?
(2) What other examples can you think of?
(3) Have you already or will you post your feedback to Matthew Moore's article?

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  1. Funkkeejooce
    Aaah the wonders of Internet, you love them, then you hate them and then you can't live without them. Yes I do agree with his selection. It makes me smile because it so true. Another example I can think off is "Relationship." I have seen relationship within familys or marriages breakdown due to someone who is addictive to internet. I guess it was mentioned in the article in an indirect way - "no. 17, watching television together."
    1. timethief
      I think you are right and relationships ought to be on the list. I'm not only thinking in terms of relationships within families like watching TV together. I'm also thinking of relationships with business people who supply us with goods and services. I have yet to establish the same high quality relationships I have with local merchants and vendors, who I have face-to-face relationships with with their online counterparts. Also every day I am spending my time deleting phony baloney blog comments, as well as, phony baloney followers and friends, who prove to be business owners and internet marketers looking for customers.
    2. Funkkeejooce
      Yes definately. Online service is impersonal.
    3. jeremyjanson
      Oh I don't know, I still have a life pretty rich with relationships. I think relationships are dying off but I don't think it has anything to do with the internet. I think it has more to do with a culture and society that no longer values human beings and honestly kind of finds them a waste of time.
  2. Agit8r
    "Chuck Norris' Reputation"?

    The guy has had more plastic surgery than Melanie Griffith. Not to mention his political views...
    1. timethief
      Chick who? Is he an American? Is he a celeb of some sort?
    2. Agit8r
      he used to be... now he's a "conservative" blogger
    3. timethief
      I honestly could not remember who he was. I went onto the net and was surprised to see the extent of the plastic surgery. This is the Wagon Train guy, right? Well, if so, then he's got to be in his 70's or 80's. How sad that he's such a narcissist. Conservative blogger? Somehow that doesn't surprise me, although I can't say why ... lol
    4. Agit8r
      no, no, he's the martial arts guy. "Walker Texas Ranger" and all that. He's ancient though. Bruce Lee kicked his butt in one of his old movies
    5. SweetViolet
      Actually, Norris used to be a karate champion who became famous for fighting Bruce Lee in one of those movies.

      Then, inexplicably, he became a TV actor (I've seen more animation in a totem pole) and even had his own program...something about Texas Rangers.

      He has become the butt of jokes...rather in the same vein as blonde jokes.

      I didn't know he was a blogger, but based on his jingoistic posturing in the past, it doesn't surprise me that he's conservative. He's always struck me more as an opportunist than being sufficiently literate as to actually write his own blog.
    6. Agit8r
      "seen more animation in a totem pole"

      Botox?
  3. PotatoChef
    Pretty good and accurate list.

    My additions:
    -Newspapers
    -The thrill of recieving an unexpected letter
    -Peace and quiet at grandmother's house instead of her nagging to get you to show her how to work twitter.
    1. timethief
      I agree with all of those too and the last one made me lol I don't believe that newspapers will ever completely disappear. I no longer have the thrill of receiving an unexpected letter but that's been replaced by the "thrill" of receiving unexpected emails.
    2. Arcticulates
      lol! Only in my case.. it's my grandkids nagging me to show them how to play games, do email and skype!
  4. stayfitbug
    The world will never be the same again!!
    1. Agit8r
      darn that Al Gore and his vote for DARPANET!
  5. timethief
    Boredom has been not been slain by the internet because I have seen people posting to forums like this one saying they were bored. Which leads one to ponder what those people would have been doing ie. which of their former activities were killed when they got a computer and could access the internet. Hobbies may be an inclusion for the list.
    1. Agit8r
      well, crime in the USA went down significantly after 1995... o_0
    2. owlbarn
      I wish people could find something interesting do in their spare time like helping someone online (they are web addicts) without expecting anything in return.
    3. timethief
      Do you think that the internet killed donating time to charitable work?

      In my case it didn't. I still do the same charitable work I did before but now some of it is done online. I'm also helping people with their blogging free of charge, and I never did that previous to having a computer and internet access. And, I have met many others online, who help others and do not charge for their knowledge or services.
  6. TLAnarchist
    The art of polite disagreement...? nah...
    1. timethief
      Really? Well I disagree with you. I am a paralegal. I have experienced and witnessed more defamation (libel) and excessive use of swearing online than I have witnessed offline.

      Most has come from arrogant, ignorant and abusive people who think they can blah, blah, blah and not be sued. Ha! Pseudonyms offer no safety yet, these types are unaware that writing on your own blog, on any other blog and on any online forum (or anywhere else) under a pseudonym does not offer you or the web site administrator any protection from a lawsuit for libel.

      Worse still is the fact that many of those spewing their poison into the blogosphere frequently pose as being "citizen journalists" (oxymoron) or "experts" who lack credentials of any kind. Over the years four basic guidelines for ethical blogging have been recognized, and without there are legions of bloggers online who do not meet the standards that journalists are held to.
      (1) Be well informed about your subject
      * Investigate the background;
      * Get the whole story;
      * Learn about all sides of the issue;
      * Seek out competing points of view;
      * Read what the experts have to say;
      * Get the facts straight.

      (2) Be honest
      Beware of the temptation to distort truth for your own purposes. Do not falsify facts, do not present a few facts as the whole story, do not present tentative findings as firm conclusions, and do not plagarize and or present the ideas of others as your own.

      (3) Use sound evidence
      When using evidence, be sure not to take quotations out of context, not to juggle numbers or statistics, and not to present unusual cases as representative examples. Use sources of information that are objective and qualified and link to them appropriately.

      (4) Employ valid reasoning
      Avoid such fallacies as making hasty generalizations, asserting causal connections where none exist, using invalid analogies, and pandering to passion or prejudice.
    2. timethief
      Stop calling me names. I can out polite you any day of the week, while stabbing needles into the voodoo doll depicting you and muttering incantations. BTW I detest bad satire.
    3. TLAnarchist
      I was serious.
      How do you know how I look? I can make a sex doll of you if I wanted to... but I prefer my sex doll of Selvia.
      (I just vomitted a little.)
    4. timethief
      Slow learner?
  7. NatetheGrate
    Newspaper journalism
    1. timethief
      I sincerely hope that investigative journalism is not killed by the internet. It amazes me how many people will accept unsubstantiated blah, blah, blah though, so that may not bode well.
  8. celticmusicfan
    I have been guilty of skipping lunches before just to check who's at BC LOL.

    I agree about singles replacing the desire to listen to the whole album. I think this is a music killer. There are a lot of beautiful tracks that didn't become singles . I can attest the fact that "Last Time by Moonlight' should have been the single instead of "Trains and Winter Rains" by Enya.
    1. timethief
      I agree with that listening to the whole album one too. I don't skip lunches but from time to time I eat them in front of the monitor rather than at the table.

      I was considering what I do when I have no internet service and that's when I recognized some things that I could list as being killed:
      (1) Learning a card trick (my neighbor used to like teaching them until we both got computers)
      (2) Doing jigsaw puzzles (my husband and I used to do a lot more of them than we do now)
      (3) Baking
      (4) Washing my car by hand
    2. celticmusicfan
      And I used to go to my neighbor's houses before the internet
    3. timethief
      My husband just reminded me that I used to walk over and have tea with our older neighbors a few properties away every 2 or 3 days but I rarely visit them now.
  9. Arcticulates
    I know one thats missing...

    How to write and spell in a complete sentence without using abbreviations and slang.
    1. Friday13
      omg so true!
    2. timethief
      Amen to that.
  10. LaurenM622
    library research!

    i'm working on my undergrad thesis right now, and so many of the books i want to check out of my university library are now only available as "ebooks." i HATE it! i love the smell of libraries and books, and it's so frustrating for me to try to do research out of a "book" that's on my laptop screen...
    1. timethief
      Hi Lauren,
      That's a good one too. I love libraries and books. (I'm a librarian.) I like ebooks too, but I'd rather feel the weight of an actual book in my hand and read the text in a book form than in ebook form.

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