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ACLU defends your daughter's vagina!
Posted by Agit8r • 4/23/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: nazi perverts, pedophiles, redding v. stafford
I've been reading the about Redding v. Stafford case, and I'm just baffled that there are actually pedophile sympathisers out there who sympathise with the SICK F~CKS at Stafford School District.
I chalk this up to this "Common Good" mentality spread by these Anarcho-Capitalist Ronald Coase types and the f~ckers who authored the PATRIOT Act.
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What on earth is this about? -
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The Redding v. Staffor case currently before the Supreme Court.
for more see: www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/search/38367prs20090116.html
or my blog: jeffersonsmammoth.blogspot.com/-
Thanks for the links.
Dear God, they're students - not prisoners.
I forget what number reason I'm currently up to as reasons of why I'm homeschooling, but it's way, way up there.
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Justice David Souter said:
"The thought process in the principal's mind is: Better embarrassment than the risk of violent sickness and death," Souter said. "What's wrong with that reasoning?"
Pedo sympathizer! -
Now I'm going to have to have the "don't let you principal strip search you" talk with my daughters...
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That's very nice of them, but I don't even have a daughter.-
do you have a sister... niece... anyone you care about who attends middle school and who you might want to have learn in a non-sexually intimidating learning environment?! Sheesh!
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No body better strip search my underage daughter or son in a public or private school without my knowledge or permission..
They can hold my child in the office till I get there with my Lawyer...-
exactly... duh Arizona!
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thank god there are some rational people out there Arctic. For me it's like this; either they can call me down there... or i can come down there when i find out--with a pair of hedge-clippers!
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www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/21/20090421StripSearch21-ON.html?&w...
Wow based on this, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the only non-perv on the court.
The obvious question is "WHY WASN'T A PARENT NOTIFIED/PRESENT?" It's not like they thought she had a ticking bomb in her hoo-hah!-
I really don't understand how schools are getting away with this crap. I just don't.
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because they think they can get away with it / have gotten away with it in the past. -
AZ is a Goldwater state. They are all about adults having moral authority to do whatever to children that are under their power
if there's anyone from the deep south that dissagrees with this assessment, feel free to enlighten me otherwise -
We have some similar rules here, but strip searches are not one of them.
I feel the whole zero tolerance thing is bullshit, personally. We had a middle schooler here die because he couldn't make the trek to the nurses office in time to get his inhaler when he was having an serious asthma attack.
I wonder who the genius was that thought up that rule. Lets see, kids who have emergency inhalers can't breathe, and need them pretty much immediately, so let's make them as inaccessible as possible, and oh! Yeah! Let's make the kid, who can't breathe, book it across the school campus just to get the life saving medicine he needs." -
yeah, that's screwed too. My yougest daughter has asthma and can't carry an inhaler. Small school fortunately. Going to keep a suspicious eye on the staff from now on nonetheless... O_o
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And you all turn your noses up at me when I wanted to blow up my chemistry class with the gas burner. Trust me I would have been doing a service to humanity. lmao
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Our chem teacher had a nervous breakdown when we accidentally set the curtains on fire in the classroom - she asked us if we would do that sort of thing to our curtains at home, to which we answered that we only had venetian blinds. And then she just lost it. It was later discovered that she was smoking pot out the back of the classroom though. Funnily enough she still works there though, and even funnier is that she used to be our neighbour too just recently until we moved.
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knife-hits off the bunson burner?
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Nah, as far as i know she was just making spliffs trying to make out that she was only smoking roll your own cigarettes
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i had all assortment of wacky/incompetent teachers, why hasn't
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Exactly, teachers are humans after all with their own issues inside and outside of the school environment. And with misbehaving kids its by no means an easy job. But In my opinion perhaps some, if not all teachers have to have a full background check before teaching and there should be onsite mental health checks available for them.
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Here in WA we have two women Senators. Maybe we can convince one of them to impeach these Anti-constitutionalist justices like Roberts and Souter... frigging pervs!
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The public school system started going downhill after the introduction of new math.-
if the "new math" is a euphemism for dividing a 13-year-old's legs, and peeking at her hoo-hah, the yes.
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Yes at her hoo hah and the more I think about it, the more sick I become.
If this happened to my kid where some idiot teacher/principal were to visually rape my child you can bet that school and principal would be history.
Good God I am seeing RED already. -
it was a female nurse, but still. Who knows if they had cameras in there and is part of some child porn ring...
Like I said before... HEDGECLIPPERS! -
I don't care if it was a woman either I would fix her too, especially if no one had the decency to call me 1st the parent. I would be IRATE
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It's almost as if these justices haven't heard of the Rule of Law! If Stafford's actions are upheld as constitutional, does that mean that the cops can strip search underaged traffic violaters... cause that is obviously the issue here; are minors protected by the Bill of Rights. Ruth Bader Ginsburg says yes they do. Roberts and Souter say "Damn, you're a little hottie"
209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:jzCgqq_6KakJ:www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17517892/+%...
look for the highlighted yellow text
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I'm going to assume one of two things. Either the people who aren't commenting either don't have daughters/don't care about topic... or they are actually with the school officials and don't want to be labeled as members of the Pedophile Gestapo. o_O
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or too busy talking about god, adsence or money making
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EXACTLY the sort who would trust their childrens sexual privacy/mental health to some perverted rednecks
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"Matthew Wright, the attorney for the school district, drew a line by saying school officials did not plan to conduct body cavity searches for drugs. Those typically are done on the U.S. border or in prisons..."
boy, you know they would if they could... f~cking sickos -
Who are these psycho school officials? Have they lost their minds? I think that sometimes school officials think they are the police. My sister told me about a case in Orange County, CA where the school officials were arrested because they actually used a student to do an undercover operation to find a drug user.-
they put themselves ABOVE the police! Police have to get a warrant before they violate someone's privacy. They must have know she didn't have a father at home. I'm serious. I'd go BUY hedgeclippers if I had to!
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It's just amazing the level of delusional power some school officials think they have.
This story is abhorrent -
And these justices just don't have a clue! There's a psuchological difference between a hardened adult criminal in prison, and a pubescent girl. Reagan and the Bushes really knew how to pick some Nazi's for the court!
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When it comes to something that it "oh so not right" I am not shy about complaining to higher-than-necessary powers and embarrassing people who overstep their authority. This applies to all aspects of my life. If I am in the right and you are in the wrong, don't ever cross me!
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Schools should have been burned down ages ago and replaced with trampolines and amusement parks.-
your name suits you
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That is very disturbing!!! Anybody does anything to my kids in school and they will have a bus driven up their well you know what. Or something bad will happen to them. I react then think, brain lags behind actions if somebody messes with my kids.-
like I said before... HEDGECLIPPERS!
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Naturally, that's why I chose it. I'm a floater. I don't dive in too deep.
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I thought a "floater" was one that wouldn't flush...
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I've been following this case and I really hope the Supreme Court rules in the girls favor. School districts have just taken things to far and it is ridiculous. I'm doubly disturbed that they have no evidence to search her, just rumors. -
It is clear to me that Brown v. Board holds that the 14th Amendment applies to schoolchildren (they being the subject of that case).
The Fourteenth Amendment states:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
This by precedent incorporates the Fourth Amendment against the states (Mapp v. Ohio).
The Fourth Amendment does provide for the search of the OUTER layers of clothing in some circumstances (terry v. Ohio) citing:
"the officer never put his hands beneath the outer garments"
“The sole justification of the search ... is the protection of the police officer and others nearby, and it must therefore be confined in scope to an intrusion reasonably designed to discover guns, knives, clubs, or other hidden instruments for the assault of the police officer.”
Justice Douglass dissented:
“To give the police greater power than a magistrate is to take a long step down the totalitarian path. Perhaps such a step is desirable to cope with modern forms of lawlessness. But if it is taken, it should be the deliberate choice of the people through a constitutional amendment.”
Bear in mind that such a case was involving Police officers, and that Ibuprophen is by no means the equivelent of a gun of a knife!
It need hardly be stated that those areas of the body regarded as "the private parts" are among those in which the civilian not under order of a court of law (warrant) certaintly has an expectation of privacy.
As to the damages sought, it would seem to be a Catch 22 for the defence of Stafford; either they may claim that the fourth amendment does not apply because they are not police (although they are public servants--so it ought to be assumed that they are under the same constrain regarding Warrants) but then they are clearly on the liable to be sued for their private conduct. -
Are you trying to raise sexually transmitted disease (STD) awareness?-
a different sort of social disease, rather...
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Very funny. Actually I'm trying to spread Pedophile Gestapo awareness
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I'm actually suprised that it got out of the state courts. There isn't a state in the Union where 13 year olds can give legal consent for an adult to look at their hoo-hah's O_o
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www.usatoday.com/news/nation/states/connecticut/2009-03-06-3059576907_x.htm
There is something which occurred much more recently, and with boys rather than girls.-
the difference being that in a civilized state (such as those in the North-East and Pacific Northwest, there is a need to clear names, because such a thing is held to be criminal. In AZ--and some deep south states--not so much
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Who's dumb enough to put their livelihood on the line for $70? You have to know that strip-searching any kid, without parental consent and/or a warrant is going to get you into trouble. What sort of moronic adults have to debate whether strip-searching any kid would be a good idea. Honestly, I just don't understand the thinking behind either of these incidents, and certainly not behind the justices who didn't read the briefs and issue a brutal ruling beginning with, "These school officials are clearly morons who don't deserve to be within 200' of your children."
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they are! Brown v. Board set's a precident that schoolchildren enjoy the protections of the Constitution.
Unfortunately our current court is made up of far less enlightened individuals than the Warren Court was.
I wouldn't trust these men (excepting Ruth Bader Ginsberg) to preside over the legal matters of the Swat Valley!
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If you're not a floater, I'd hate to think where you are now.
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in the sewer with the 20ft goldfish
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UnBELIEVable! I only got to page9 of this brief, And I'm ready to go castrate these pedos!
www.abanet.org/publiced/preview/briefs/pdfs/07-08/08-479_Respondent.pdf-
this states that the girl that ratted her out was given a less violating strip search than Savana who gave no such information. This suggests that the search was intended as a sexually based punishment-- a clear violation of the 8th amendment!
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I can't help picturing Clarence Thomas listening to the lurid details of the case and sweating profusely... while drinking his can of Coke...
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Anarcho-capitalists would NEVER have suggested the patriot act. It involves too much fiat money and too much government control of currency.
Anarcho-capitalists believe that the US should return to the gold standard and do away with fiat money entirely. Besides, anarcho-capitalists believe in individualism and not in altruism, ie not the common good.
The patriot act is lunacy, but you should blame another ism for that.-
I'm sorry, I should have used the term anarcho-corporatist or anarcho-fascist.
Coase theorum etc. run on the basis that allowing companies to do whatever they want (without regard to Rule of Law) is acceptable because it supports the common good (at the expense of some individuals) It is highly hypocritical. -
Yes, well, the point is it's unconstitutional to order a minor to strip search. Our schools here in South Africa also have a very similar policy, whereby teachers are authorised to do unwarranted and inexplicable spot checks. They can essentially pick you out of a line and order you to do a dope test or to search your belongings or your person for drugs.
I don't think it solves a drug problem and it certainly doesn't help to raise adults who respect the law. It creates an us and them mentality, with the law bringers somehow separate and above society.
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Yes, me too. The double entendre of "spot check" is almost as bad as "Bush appointed Justice"... yick!
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DOOMSDAY! This is it!-
that might bw an exageration. might be a good time to have a "hedge-lopper" rally like the "tea-bagging" ones here recently.
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