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Am I a Freak?
Posted by urikalish • 2/29/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Before I joined this community, I used to think I was just a normal guy.
After hanging around here and reading many of the comments on the discussion threads, it seems like I’m the freak.
I’m desperately looking for a BC member (even one will do) that believes that there is no soul, it’s all just physics chemistry and biology, there is no sixth sense, no ghosts, no angels, no demons, no Bigfoots, no aliens have landed here yet, The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS, astrology is a scam, alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based, we evolved from apes, and God is manmade.
Can I have at least one member here that thinks like me, or am I really a rare freak?
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"no ghosts, no Bigfoots, no aliens have landed here yet, The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS, Astrology is a scam, alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based"
Well, I can at least agree with these things, so maybe I'm half a freak?
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Semi-freak that is?
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I wont say you are a freak. I can't say I agree 100% with you.
I wont say God is man made.... but, I will say that religion was created to control the masses. -
I agree with you on most things Uri -
Great, thanks! Maybe I'll even lend you my Gnome as a tripod for your macro shots.
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A gnome?? :o
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Hah, ouch. I have the worst memory ever
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I'm with you on no bigfoots, aliens have not landed (although I do think life exists beyond our terrestrial limitations), and that we evolved from apes.
I really don't have an opinion on the Law of Attraction. Never gave it any thought to be honest. I'm also not really big into alternative medicine.
Where I differ from you is that I'm much more spiritual in my beliefs. In other words, I believe in god. I believe that I've actually seen ghosts on several occassions. Obviously then I believe in a soul.
No, I don't think you're a freak at all. I know plenty of folks with similar views.-
Cool! Someone thinks I'm no freak!
Hmmm... so I guess it was a good call to leave out the fact that I don't believe in free will... -
I struggle with free will sometimes myself. It's a fascinating thing to ponder. Sometimes I think it may be a blend of free well and predetermined destiny if you will.
Once you start throwing in the possibility of tangent universes and other dimensions, free will does start to blur though. It's something I'll probably ponder for all of my existence. -
Start a thread about it, we'll talk there...
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How can someone who worships the status quo of our current scientific knowledge and who is highly educated in mathematics not "believe in free will" ?
It seems odd to me that a scientist would "believe" anything not proven by science let alone factually state " I don't believe in free will"... -
@gerryPlanetEarth:
1. Science is extremely humble and always claims that every theory, no matter how strongly supported by evidences, can be tossed away by a single contradicting observation (e.g Einstein killed Newton). I wouldn't exactly say I worship the status quo of our current scientific knowledge, but I do believe science is the only way to create reliable modules that will better explain and predict events in our universe, even that we can never be sure we've reached the absolute truth.
2. I'm thinking something along the lines of Casual Determinism. How exactly not believing in free will contradicts science? -
@urikalish
1)Please accept my apologies after reading your comment:
"Science is extremely humble and always claims that every theory, no matter how strongly supported by evidences, can be tossed away by a single contradicting observation (e.g Einstein killed Newton)."
I would like to replace the words "someone who worships the status quo of our current scientific knowledge" with the words "a person who has a great deal of knowledge in the fields of many sciences"...
2)There is so much overwhelming evidence that free will exists in humans there is nothing to casually determine....
3)I recollect a chap in a local donut shop who claimed either the nazis or soviets performed experiments on prisoners weighing them in meticulous intervals during their death process and had scientifically proven by "weight difference" alive vs immediatly dead that there exists souls in humans...
Is there any truth to the donut shop chap's words or did he perhaps read this story in a u.s.a. weekly tabloid ?
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I saw a news piece this week that depression medicine does not work. Wow what a shock. ha
I said for years that depression is a thought process. It is not an illness. So a pill can't help. The placebo effect for you there. If I played someone sad songs all day long I can make them sad. Time for the pills? Just crazy.
I read about all the stuff you mentioned since about 1996 when I got the internet. A lot more time than most people would ever put into it.
I believe someone either made us out there, or made us and maybe is no longer there. I think the odds that everything has no meaning and nobody designed it all is very slim. The more I kept reading the more I felt that way.
All the things you mentioned are debatable. -
Uri, you most definitely are a freak. But these days, who isn't?
As far as what you believe, it seems like a ton of us here believe in quite a lot (if not all) of the things that you do. In that regard, you are very normal indeed. Just one weirdo among many. -
Well , give me the definition of being normal.I think we are all insane , but if we talk about earn money trough our blogs , then we are back to normality. -
The community would be lost without you, I love your sobering comments.
There is only one Uri. -
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I could be pursuaded, I am easy that way. -
We can discuss, but then we have to go lightly. Science & technology we enjoy today is similar in quantity to a drop of water from the ocean. Science today is not at all advance to the extent that it could explain everything that can be reached by our five senses & the sixth sense too, if it exists.
Following is from my blog www.bunpeiris.com
He could be in our planet called earth, or somewhere in our galaxy called Milky Way 600 quadrillion miles across, or somewhere in our contemplated universe with 100 billion other galaxies, or somewhere across our universe, across our thin membrane of space-time (brane), one of many, (in the new frontier called “brane new world” -Stephen Hawkins) all of which may warp, wiggle, connect & collide with one another in as many as 10 dimensions. We can’t see anything outside our brane, as were the people in the well of Plato’s analogy with respect of limited human perceptions & knowledge, because light can’t escape or enter the brane. We can’t hear anything outside, because a sound travel through matter, & matter is stuck to our brane. We can’t use radioactivity to sense what’s beyond, or even break through with nuclear bombs, because nuclear forces are also firmly nailed to our brane. There could be a big blue elephant sitting not a millimeter away in another dimensions, but we wouldn’t know it’s because everything (except gravity) we use to” see” is stuck to our brane. That is the latest mind-boggling theory of multiverse, the universe of all universes, the celestial mother of all mothers. Socrates liked to tease his interlocutors by saying that the only thing he knew was that he knew nothing. The magnificence of Greek thought! “All the knowledge, the human race has gained so far is akin to a drop of sea water from the great oceans,” my father would say since then electric vacuum valve era to today’s micro technology age. I believe he had heard of the incoming Nano technology era. The limited perceptions of the human race confine us to our frail nature & pathetic three-dimensional organs. Einstein made extra dimensions an integral part of Physics when he used fourth dimension, time, in his theory of Relativity in 1905. Ten years later, he showed that this interwoven fabric of space-time could warp under the influence of massive objects-“causing” the force we know as gravity.
www.my-srilankaholidays.com/2007/07/tales-from-resplendent-island.html -
"Before I joined this community, I used to think I was just a normal guy."
Come now, Uri. You never really believed this, did you? For what it's worth, I never believed this of myself either. -
I disagree. I asked my multiple personalities and at least 4 of them assured me I'm normal.
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I dunno physics seems rather magical to me.
I think I was predestined to tell you that. -
wow everyone seems to be so scientific here..hate to break it to you...but if you think there is certainty in figuring out what is out there don't forget new species show up with enough regularity that anything new and now unknown is possible, the universe hasn't been figured out with certainty by the scientists so how can you be so certain there isn't life beyond?...and what is motivating so many people to lie about witness encounters..they aren't showing up with an acting gig or even news bite except in mass..no pay there, and life beyond...its real and you will experience it whether you believe it or not. Just on the basis of scientific theory alone energy can't be destroyed it only changes form...why would we be different?...we are all electrical..ever been shocked? Happy trails all its a wonderful world! -
I thought these conversations were banned?
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I thought so too.
To answer urikalish's question - no you're not a freak. In fact I'm considered a freak by most BC members since I'm unashamed to be called a Christ- oh wait... I can't say that here. darn it. (see restriction on religion thread) -
You can say it, Mewie. It's the shooting wars that have to stop.
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Thanks stoneman. I'm still waiting to get shot...
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As long as you believe what it is you believe, then you don't need to be reassured ... or do you? Here's a nice big comfy hug from me to you. -
No, not a freak. But from the sounds of it I feel a little more normal. I always thought I was the freak. -
Nope, I don't think you're a freak either. I disagree with some things, but agree with others....
But without all this diversity...we'd all be freaky clones! -
Ack, not apes, hominds! The theory of evolution suggests a common ancestor WITH apes, but it's a big difference, especially when the anti-evolution folks are using "descended from apes" to mock the theory.
You're not a freak. One of my dearest friends is a rationalist, atheist skeptic who sees no reason to posit anything beyond physical observations. That's a perfectly reasonable approach.
I'm just not reasonable.
I accept science and reason, I just feel like there's some things that those tools aren't equipped to measure or analyze. The problem being that things falling outside of the measuring capacity of those tools are subjective.
However, it does amaze me how many "unreasonable" people there seem to be on the web-- I thought there were more of you reasonable folks!
Then again, both my parents are scientists.-
The biological family Hominidae = the "great apes". You think that not using the word 'ape' would change something to an anti-evolution guy?
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No, Urikalish, you're not a freak. You're just wrong.
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But you were polite about it. No personal insults. And you know better than to try to convince him otherwise, just as he knows better . . .
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i hope u re freak , dude cause i don't want to be alone in here
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Oh, phew, I'm not the only one. -
I don't consider myself an atheist (more like a spiritual agnostic) but Carl Sagan's Demon-Haunted World and Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors are on my bookshelves and highlighted to pieces. -
I believe in God and some kind of afterlife, but I don't believe in aliens or ghosts or Bigfoot, even though I understand he has been seen and heard all over my sad little county. I do believe that astrology is crap and that we have evolved from a place on the food chain.
So, maybe you can at least find a little freak to agree with in everyone. -
Yeah, I agree with pretty much all you said...except you're so positive and sure. I hold on to the right to have my mind changed at some point, if that makes any sense.
Besides, if we all thinked alike that would be a drag. And freakishness is in the eye of the beholder, LOL-
As the history of science has showed us so many times before, we must be prepared to toss away everything we hold to be truth because of a single new contradicting evidence.
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Uri, what is the differences between living and non-living things?-
Life: growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
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If soul is not exist, living & non-living things are the same. The presence of soul makes the different.
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Well, not according to the current scientific definition of life.
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Although I am a future biologist, I dont think we are able to synthesize a cell with chemicals (not by cloning) in the future. We only can synthesize short peptide, DNA, oligonucleotide but impossible for the whole cell.
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And the point is...?
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If you define a soul as conciousness than hey, whose disagreeing with you, "helix". It's just that many individuals (including myself) don't consider the soul to be immortal. -
Uri, there is a power in a living thing to make all complex metabolisms possible.
daniel23, you "don't consider the soul to be immortal"? Means you agree with the presence of soul? -
@Helix;
You said: "Uri, there is a power in a living things to make all complex metabolism possible."
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I know, but to make the complex metabolisms in vitro is totally impossible. Scientific studies are based on predictions through in vitro researches. ATP itself can't induce the metabolisms to occur.
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Enzymes.
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Yup. There are so many things have to be considered & there is a power that can bring all these things together & become a living things. Let say I able to provide all the organelles, I dont think anyone in this world can make a living cell by assembling all these cell components.
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Germs have souls??? Wow! Good luck in your biology degree. Those bio labs will probably make you feel like a serial killer...
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Sorry, I reply when I saw the word "enzyme" but not about germs. "Yup" means agreement about the enzymatic activities.
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Sure I "believe" in "the soul" -- its just our organism consciousness. No hokey pokey involved.
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I agree with a good chunk of your list. I enjoy the fact you bring critical thinking into discussions, as well as the brain teasers I fail miserably at, but like being tormented with. -
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"no soul, it’s all just physics chemistry and biology, there is no sixth sense, no ghosts, no angels, no demons, no Bigfoots, no aliens have landed here yet, The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS, astrology is a scam, alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based, we evolved from apes, and God is manmade."
Amen, brother. Nice to somebody hasn't been lobotomised by hippies. -
Urikalish (or others who agree), if it's all just chemistry and biology, do you have a theory as to the source of the various emotional/psychological reactions? This isn't a challenge, just a serious question.
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Sure we have a theory as to the source of the various emotional/psychological reactions (otherwise we would all be forced to believe in a soul...), but I'm afraid a Google search on this topic will yield a better result than me trying to explain the complex brain mechanism in 3 sentences.
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I'm a little puzzled...you began this thread asking if there was anyone out there who agreed with your theory or if you were a freak, and now you're telling me that your theory is well-established and commonly accepted enough that I can Google it?
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Hi Uri, is this thread for attention, for controversy or are you for real?
Check out the film What the bleep do we know, where Quantum physics meets spirituality....
Its just the start my friend. Us flowers get all the thorns at the blog making your same point.....
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That film is interesting. And the question? Well, it's just Uri. Have you seen his blog?
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@gosmelltheflowers
The weird thing is that I thought just like him until I was introduced to certain theories in physics of cosmology at college that actually made me spiritual. I honestly find this thread a bit distasteful to the BC community and of its administrators as it is written challengingly of religion. But I know Uri is a great guy and he surely just didn’t think it through. -
Uri is testing the waters, I think. We were told that these topics could appear, if people were friendly about it. Uri did it in a self-effacing manner.
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I missed that though I knew tha ban was temporary.
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But then I might think like that too if I lived in Israel.
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Yeah, I've heard of that film. Hippy bollox for gullible yuppies.
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Guys, "What the Bleep" is the most convoluted pile of nonsense walking. It has numerous factual errors, presents unsubstantiated hypothesis as theory, and is laughable to anyone who has more than a passing knowledge of quantum mechanics, probability theory and multidimensional space. There are much better movies out there if you're really interested in learning about those branches of science. -
As I was getting ready to post my review on "What the Bleep" I saw ghostytwofish already posted it...
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Kevin, you said "But then I might think like that too if I lived in Israel."
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Regarding "What the Bleep?": So what would you recommend that is accessible to those of us who lack any substantial scientific background?
Regarding Kevin's remarks: He's probably implying that religion is at the root of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, and that rejecting religion in such a case would make sense. Now keep in mind that I am not saying this. I am merely attempting to translate Kevin's cryptic sentence. -
You are anti religious in an area of the world that is commonly called the Holy Land and torn between two religions. In a place where religion is so often the final word I might also be anti-religious.
As much harm and wrongs as religion has done so too has rationality in modern times. The idea logical rational utopian dream will never exist except under tyranny and a fragile glass. There are times of great compassion, togetherness, and humility that I admire in the religious. The only thing I would argue is that everyone has a right to choose their beliefs and a right to be at peace.
Why even frame stuff in this context? I can go on and on about evolution and the big bang without challenging the religious? If precious ideas are not overtly threatened I might have a chance of persuading someone to the truth. In fact the dissonance created by the direct and threatening comparisons will have the opposite effect.
damn stoneman is starting to learn how to read me. -
@Mark, I will probably post about weird new-age interpretations to modern physics in the following weeks, but in the meanwhile, without attacking specific statements in "What the Bleep", just think if it is wise to acquire your science knowledge about quantum physics by watching a movie produced by a school/religion/cult called “The Ramtha's School of Enlightenment”.
@Kevin, my disbelief in God is unrelated to the current Middle East conflict (which is about security issues and disputed land as well as difference in culture and religion). -
I never seen what the Bleep – I mentioned to mark I had a friend in the religious studies department at IU conduct studies in Creativity and Spirituality. I had the privilege of being a guest speaker at his class on that topic. Anyways he has studied a lot of creative types from scientist to artist and has tried to gather how creativity has shaped their spiritual beliefs. Some interesting stuff but I doubt his work really matters here.
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Of course Stoneman and Uri is interesting as well!
We've not been on since his blog was 1! -
I 100% agree with you.
I'll add you as a friend, feel free to send me messages of anything you want. -
U said = Can I have at least one member here that thinks like me, or am I really a rare freak?
YES YOU ARE a rare freak but i like freaky.. (*laughing like a witch) -
This topic got a big pop! HA I thought nobody would respond.
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You think you're a freak? I believe in God AND evolution. ... it's not easy having an Eastern mind in a Western world, my friend.
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Plenty of Christians believe the same thing. That does not mean that I am trying to negate the rest of what you wrote.
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That can't be too unusual--it's what the 1,000,000,000+ Catholics of the world are taught...and I doubt that we're the only ones.
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Totally agree with Madame X.
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"I’m desperately looking for a BC member (even one will do) that believes that there is no soul, it’s all just physics chemistry and biology, there is no sixth sense, no ghosts, no angels, no demons, no Bigfoots, no aliens have landed here yet, The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS, astrology is a scam, alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based, we evolved from apes, and God is manmade."
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I believe that God is MAN made hence the fact that HE is a male God. I used to be Catholic but got fed up with the teachings. It's human interpretation.-
I'm sure he meant man-made in the sense that he's a figment of our imagination.
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there is no soul (Disagree)
there is no sixth sense (Disagree)
- Instinct is inherited from our carnal, animalistic heritage.
no ghosts (Undecided)
- I believe there are things paranormal, but to what extent - IDK
no angels (Undecided)
no demons (Undecided)
no Bigfoots (Agree)
- Highly unlikely - Bigfoot is just a story for small towns to attract tourists.
no aliens have landed here yet (Undecided)
- Aliens are very possible.
- Just because our technology hasn’t gotten there yet, doesn’t mean someone else’s hasn’t.
The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS (Disagree)
- I do not believe the LOA to be a mystical force to be harnessed, but I do believe in being proactive to make your dreams come true and acknowledging the good and positive in life.
astrology is a scam (Undecided)
alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based (Disagree)
- That’s just ignorant. There is bound to be a positive physiological benefit.
we evolved from apes (Most likely)
and God is manmade (Most likely)
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I said "alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based"
You said "That’s just ignorant. There is bound to be a positive physiological benefit"
Maybe the main physiological benefit is having a lighter wallet coming out of an alternative therapist, which can help with back pain
Seriously, to set things straight, I think that herbal medicine can sometimes work (after all, many conventional drugs are based on plants, although I think modern western drugs will often be more effective), and I believe acupuncture can sometimes reduce pain (by physically touching nerves), but that’s about it. I don’t think healing hands of light can cure cancer. I don’t believe you can treat a person’s kidneys or liver by applying pressure on his feet. I don’t think you can diagnose a disease by looking at a man’s iris or his aura. And no, if you excessively dilute a drug in water - you get just water. I don’t believe in therapeutic aromatic oils. No stones of power. No crystals of energy. No meridians. No chakras. No ch’i. Just one expensive placebo-based fake medicine. I do believe the placebo effect can help a little bit in certain situations like depression or pain, but let's be honest and admit that it's only the placebo effect working here.
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At this point in the conversation Uri, this is strictly your opinion. Get back to me when you have hard evidence. I'm willing to give every alternative method the benefit of the doubt. And if it is strictly "mostly" a placebo effect, and it benefits you, than why not? If it works, don't dog it. LOL!!!
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Exactly MY point. Almost every field in alternative medicine (except maybe herbal medicine) failed to provide any hard evidence for it working except the understandable placebo effect. Give me a single proof that can be verified through conventional science and I will be happy to change my mind. Only magazines with high impact factor please...
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LOL You're a hard nut to crack! I see your point. I haven't looked in to alternative medicine all that much, so I really shouldn't be fighting this battle. I don't know enough to say either way. But I think placebo's have their place in the world too. Now, whether or not they are placebo's - IDK. I don't think either of us are experts on the matter. Unless you’re have a doctorate in alternative medicine. LOL!!!
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Hey, I think everybody is a freak. That's what makes us all so unique and interesting. How boring would the world be if we all believed the same things? Me, I like to embrace differences.
So sorry Uri, I'm not our guy. Nature's predisposition toward order is enough to throw me in the other direction. Maybe not on every point, but many of them. It doesn't change my impression of you as noted above.
The cool thing about your position is that it places you in a position to not care whether you are a freak or not. That makes you uniquely interesting as either someone who is in utter denial or completely not delusional like the rest. Either way, that's pretty cool when you think about it. -
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You can hope.
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Uri’s digging up the controversy. I motion to have this thread re-categorized with the shameless blog promotions.
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A shameless blog promotion thread is where there is no real discussion and the main point in the thread is a link to your blog or one of your posts.
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Your plea is argumentative and your argument is clearly challenging. You have chosen the wrong rhetoric for changing minds. I presume your ultimate goal is to create controversy.
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“Why even frame stuff in this context? I can go on and on about evolution and the big bang without challenging the religious? If precious ideas are not overtly threatened I might have a chance of persuading someone to the truth. In fact the dissonance created by the direct and threatening comparisons will have the opposite effect.”
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I don't know, Kevin-- based on Uri's previous posts and his posting style over these many months he's been at BC, I disagree. It sounds more borne of frustration to me, and while Uri usually does challenge people to think more critically, he's typically not disrespectful. I wouldn't read into it as being troll behavior.
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The initial reason for this thread was that I wanted to update my "Top Friends" avatars on my profile page here at BC with people whom I share a similar view of the world.
Reading through many of the discussion threads, I began to wonder how common (or rare) was my view of the world.
So I created this thread in order to try and find people like me to put on my top friends list.
That was the original intent.
Now it's just for fun.
p.s. If you don't like it, just don't enter this thread. Just a little more patience... It will eventually die out; I promise. -
Troll sounds like such an ugly word. I wouldn’t give Uri that title. But I certainly appreciate hearing the intentions as they are. The only controversy for me was the timing in light of the recent drama. Not to say I wouldn’t be debating – just not motives or reasoning. Damn TSR your about to become my right sided little angel.
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If his only goal here was shameless self promotion and building controversy, than I would say that you have contributed to his goal. By reacting to the so-called controversy, you are adding to this threads popularity and in-effect promoting his blog. If there is any one here doing the foot work, I would have to say it's you my friend.
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First of all I don’t mind Uri’s topic and I don’t mind this thread in any circumstance except the(timing)?
Because this post came the day after BC asked us to hold on any religion-anti religion threads my questioning was reasonable.
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How many of these issues are religious?
* no soul it’s all just physics chemistry and biology
* there is no sixth sense
* no ghosts
* no angels, no demons
* no Bigfoots
* no aliens have landed here yet
* The Law of Attraction is just a new-age BS
* astrology is a scam
* alternative medicine is mostly placebo-based
* we evolved from apes
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some of them will be thought of as anti-religous Uri.
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Sure that was a reasonable question. Guess I missed that memo too. Religion was more of an under-lying topic here. I don't think that was the purpose of this thread. If he's breaking the rules, then the appropriate people will reprimand him. I don't think it's anything we have to worry about.
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Well... I don't think the guys behind BC looked at this discussion (at least I cannot see their avatars on this thread), but if the community hates this thread it will be reported and removed.
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There's nothing bad about a good healthy discussion!
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Thanks Duke
I have pretty much come to resolution. I know Uri is part of the community and I believe his reasoning. I was part of the discussions with what to do with controversial topics so it was personal to me. I apologize Uri if I seemed a little too challenging as I certainly didn’t mean to hurt your image or challenge your integrity. Perhaps I should have been a little more direct. It was just bad timing. -
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LOL!!! ROTFL Hehe,hehe!
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and that, my friends, is how this community should work.
(applauds Uri and Kevin)
Edit: "Breaking the law, breaking the law, dah dah..." -
Oh man, people were watching?
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As one who knows Kalish personally (and not just over the web), I can for surely say that he IS a freak.
I don't believe in Bigfoot, ghosts, sixth sense and old man who give you candy claiming that it gives them the right to touch you.
Regarding god - well, over the last few years I'm doing some small-talks with him every now and then to find out what should be our relationship.
He keeps ignoring me.
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Um. Well. You just told us that you hang out with Urikalish...
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He's kind of like my boss at work, but he secretly admires me
That's really me on his T-Shirt - no Photoshop. -
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A few days ago he found out I posted this picture on this discussion thread. You should have seen his reaction...
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When you talk to God it's called praying, when he talks to you, it's called a delusion. If anyone truly believed in God they would also believe that he/she communicates with us in some way. So why is it that anyone who got a message from God typically winds up institutionalized?-
LOL Just because it's not "normal" doesn't mean that person is crazy. I'm sure there is a lot to the universe that we don't know. The delusion is "knowing" that you know everything there is to know. Or - just thinking you're right all the time. Lol
Now - where would this world be if we stuck Einstein in an institution?
(I'm not saying he ever talked to god, but a lot of people thought he was crazy.)
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I know we have a soul and even scientists all agree that energy cannot be destoyed, it merely changes state.-
Good point!
I guess the next question would be, are souls one and part of a great whole?
Universal Consciousness
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How can you say there is no soul?
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Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Nothing, just physics, it's beautiful.
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I find you very rational and interesting. I don't agree with everything you believe in but that doesn't give me the excuse to call you "freak." That's just how you roll, I'm cool with it
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I don't think ANYbody really KNOWS jack. ESPECIALLY sceintists who keep changing their minds. Every thing is an opinion and interpretation. So to each his/her own. And since I beleive that, then it seems to fall completely with in reason that I'm totally willing to put my faith in the unproven existence of so many of the things mentioned in the OP.
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