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Any old school punk rock fans out there?
Posted by infonistacrat • 10/13/07 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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If so, todays post is for you. Titled "1977, the year punk changed the world", it's a look at some of the great punk songs from around that time. infonistacrat.hometownproject.org/2007/10/13/1977-the-year-punk-changed-the...
This is NO to be confused with California hardcore, or screamo, or anything else that assaults the ear. This is punk77, and is really just stripped down rock and roll...4/4, basic bassline, machine gun drums, and simple guitar riffs. Think Ramones and Buzzcocks. You could make the case that most of todays great bands were infuenced by these guys...The Strokes, The Arctic Monkeys, Green Day, etc.
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Before the Ramones, there was the gitter scene
82 club
Then cbjb's and Max's
St Marks place was a breeding grown for punk
My husband played with Dee Dee right before the Ramones and after the McCoys
Satyricon was their name, but that didn't last.
Johnny Thunders, was his look back then.
People are still alive from that scene lol -
If you skip a ahead to the early 1980s, I was a huge fan of The Smiths from the moment I listened to their '84 self titled album. I was 16, and really appreciated the musicality of both the instrumentation and vocals.-
You know, the Smiths are one of those bands that I love to listen to, but I never have gone out of my way to hear. Intensely talented, and a great listen. But back then, I was drawn to other stuff. In the early 80's, I was listening to Husker Du, Replacements, Sex Pistols, Ramones, and of course anything new wave! I was lucky enough to grow up listening to a great college radio station at Kent State (yes, THE Kent State). I remember the first time I heard REM...I was completely blown away. We would go hang out in the commons there as teens just to listen to the station. :-D
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Me hearts REM & Hüsker Dü.
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Rozzie, are you serious? What a great story that is! Played with Dee Dee? What a lucky guy! I heard that all the Ramones were like seriously great guys in person.
I became a fan of that whole scene on the tail end of it...probably around 79 or 80, when I was a teenager. Devo and Blondie drew me in, and the Sex Pistols made me a fan for life! I grew up in the town right next to Kent, Oh, which had maybe the best punk scene in the midwest at that time. Devo came out of Kent State, The Pretenders from Akron. There was a club called JB's Down Under in Kent that was a stop off for almost every significant band in the late 70's/ early 80's. Up stairs was a second club called Mothers Junction, and they had a Ska night everyweek. Heaven. The night Husker Du played, I was sick as a dog and missed what I have since heard was the greatest set ever there.
Sadly, both places are gone, as is Kent's punk/underground scene and college radio. They turned it into a sandwich shop, of all things. Blah.... -
You've not even mentioned my favorite bands from that first wave of punk rock coming out of New York: Television, Patti Smith Group, Richard Hell and the Heartbreakers, et cetera. -
Ian, I certainly didn't leave them off for lack of loving them, for sure. Because you know, I am right there with you. I could also have thrown in Blondie, Talking Heads, Devo, etc. along with any cut off of Horses. And Television...actually I meant to put them on there today. Not sure how I skipped that one. Maybe next Saturday, I will dedicate to some of the bands I missed. Richard Hell...wow. How that one escaped me is beyond comprehension. Is there really a bigger legend in all punk history, save for maybe Iggy?
But I kind of wanted to stick to that specific sound...that striped down, original punk sound from 77.-
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"[T]hat striped down, original punk sound from 77" is a creation of revisionist music fans of the 1980s, but that's really only the Ramones, and some of the British bands that drew inspiration from them. Punk rock began with a very diverse collection of bands-- they drew a lot of inspiration from garage bands, sure, but a number of the bands of that scene were musically and lyrically very sophisticated. What unified them was that they were a populist reaction against the corporatized arena rock of the 1970s.
1980s hardcore often rejected artistry as being too elitist and as a consequence, one still sees too many twenty-somethings dressed like it's 1977 and telling me that Patti Smith (assuming they know who she is) isn't punk.
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My favorite concerts were punk, though I didn't discover the stuff till about 1980. Living up in the woods of New Hampshire, I only managed to hear a couple acts down in Boston: Iggy Pop, Gang of Four, the Cramps (they sort of qualify), David Johansen (whose New York Dolls were way out there in the early 1970s).
P.S. Thanks for the Buzzcocks clip. I only have that stuff on vinyl, and I don't have my record player set up.-
Stoneman, you welcome! I love the fact that so many people actually have as big a love for punk 77, if not more, than I have. The Cramps are such a gnarl y group, how can you not love em? And as for the Dolls...GLAM ROCK baby! If the Dolls didn't exist, there would have been a huge hole in the 70's scene.
Another group I love with a passion that doesn't on todays list is Fugazi. Waiting Room is a complete work or art...actually, 13 Songs is one of the best albums of the genre, in my humble opinion. -
Yeah but Fugazi didn't come into existence until the late 1980s-- and only in the wake of the bands that emerged out of the "Revolution Summer" of the D.C. punk scene in 1986. So, while they are one of my favorite bands, they don't count on a purely chronological level.
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Yeah, definitely a later wave, no doubt about it. But I always loved their music and admired the fact that they took care of their fans. If you love Fugazi, on one of my earlier posts, I have a recording of Ian just slamming this dude in the audience. It's crazy great to hear him going off in this dude. blogfiles.wfmu.org/BL/2007/06/Fugazi.mp3 You really need to check it out!
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Ian MacKaye is always hilarious when he provides commentary in between songs (sometimes about behavior he sees in the audience) especially entertaining is that he does so in such a deadpan fashion. He's really one of the few musicians who could easily transition to stand-up comedy if it every interested him.
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Love the Buzzcocks and the Undertones and think Gang of four are a vastly underrated band from that era. -
Another band that I really love that came later is The Donna's, though honestly, really only their first album could be considered punk. After that, they kinda went into a more metal stand.
Also, if you really wanna hear some great stuff, take a listen to Flipper. Their a band out of San Francisco, and they are amazing. I did a post awhile ago on the influences of Curt Cobain's music...Flipper, Pixies, Melvins, Vaselines, Meat Puppets and some Stooges. infonistacrat.hometownproject.org/2007/08/17/pixies-the-vaselines-meat-pupp...
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what about Jesus and Mary chain from the early eighties, brilliant band.
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The Jesus and Mary Chain...I had them on one of my posts this past week. Yeah, crazy good.
Man, I used to love hanging out in old record shops. Now there aren't really any more record shops like there used to be. But thats where I used to find a lot of the crazy stuff I listen to. Thank god for the internet I guess. -
No unfortunately not..I was studying Joe Pass and Ralph Towner when all that happened-
Joe Pass' "Virtuoso" series of albums are just amazing, even if they don't qualify as punk rock.
Actually I first saw him on TV playing a duet with Ella Fitzgerald. I actually discovered my love of jazz before punk.
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Love old school punk, but I was brought up in a house of all sorts, when I was little my dad was roadie for the likes of iron maiden, slade and alice cooper, elvis was played a lot, my mum always played songs from when she went to the local gliderdrome to see bay city rollers, showaddyaddy e.t.c
Loved nirvana, one of my favourite songs of all time is Basketcase by Green Day. I played drums once for a little known UK band Riaganobi we even had radio play with a reworking of the sesame street theme in a punk sort of way.-
I have a profound love for almost everything except, I hate to say it, heavy metal and country. Well, I take that back. Really old country is primo...stuff from the mid-70's back. And as far a metal goes, I can even take some of that. The one exception is hair metal from the mid to late 80's. That stuff has been known to make me vomit profusely. :-)
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I have "God save the Queen" in older posts on my blog lol
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