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Are Americans Racist?
Posted by mmamovement • 8/30/07 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: General, mma, sports, ufc
Hey guys, a recent post on my blog discusses Quinton Rampage Jackson's reaction to the UFC crowd upon dethroning Chuck Liddell for the UFC LHW Title. Rampage has expressed his displeasure for the lack of respect from American fans and has stated in the past that he prefers Japanese fans over American fans.
Here's the link to the article:
mmamovement.com/rampage-felt-that-american-fans-were-racist-when-he-beat-ch...
What are your thoughts about this?
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No, we're not. It takes a lot more than throwing some ugly words around to be a racist. It is a matter of the heart. -
I guess every society is practising a form of racism in some ways. Perhaps we shouldn't put it across that way. Even people of the same race discriminate each other, let alone from different continents.
The war against racism is not just about America, given the history of White Supremacy in the past. The Nazis also went along with that belief. It's no longer a problem of America but a global concern. That's the way I look at racism.-
If you've ever been to SE Asia you'll know what racism is. Especially in Japan where they bar whites and blacks from entering restaurants altogether.
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I'm Asian.
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What do you guys feel about a crowd chanting USA, USA when a "white" fighter (doesn't have to be American) is winning against a non-white fighter (who IS American)??? This has happened in the past and I found it rather funny. Obviously, the crowd wasn't educated (or knowledgeable enough) and made their assumptions based merely on physical appearances alone.
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When Joe Louis beat Max Schmeling I doubt many Americans were cheering for Schmeling even if their skin color was the same as Schmeling's...
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Let us all just face the bloody fact that racism would forever haunt us. :-)
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Racisim wont go...ever! -
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In about 3000 years, when almost all people have different type of blood in their veins... it could be possible that racism would just be "something really odd"...
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World won't last that long the way we treat it! ;o)
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I mean for the survivors of the next ice age... LOL
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IF there are any! ;o)
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I dont know, thats a pretty tough question. I dont know if Racism still prevails in America but there certainly is a feeling of prejudice and pride in once heritage or race, whatever you wanna call it. It just depends how far you push your pride -
Racisim nothing to do with pride imo... its to do with intolerance and ignorance.
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Actually most people in the world are racist and not just Americans. Please do not single out Americans.
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True, but Americans are what they are asking about... lets be honest go to youtube and sites like that, look at the comments, and MOST racist comments are from Americans. Sad but I have noticed it.
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Yeah, because YouTube represents the whole world so well. :\
And it isn't just white America that is racist. Within the American Black community, there is racism against those with darker skin. In fact, you see that in many cultures.
Taking it one step (or several steps) further, all sorts of bigotry are alive and well all over this world. We are prejudiced against fat people, old people, poor people, rich people, gay people, ugly people.
And let's not forget sexism. Women in the US may still complain but we have it much better than so many other countries.
Of course, if we expand this discussion to include all types of bigotry, then the American Bashers have a harder time spitting on the US. -
Your experience on YouTube represents what's on YouTube, because you've seen everything there is to see there, Rob? And you just happen to know the nationality of everyone you see there?
I'll grant you one thing. YouTube is full of problematic rants. Given my interest in history, I dig up clips on nazism and fascism. Unfortunately, the things are often posts by admirers of those phenomena. Or they attract comments from such people, who think they can get away with saying anything under the cover of anonymity. -
Following up on YouTube:
I think I've heard that quite a bit of the Web and the Internet has disproportionate American representation. In other words, the place is crawling with Yanks in the first place (with apologies to those hailing from south of the Mason-Dixon line).
So, it's not surprising, with a preponderance of Americans, that a lot of the jerks are American, too. -
Norski, the English language part of the Internet is America centric because that is where the majority of English language natives live. If you flip this around and use another language such as German, French, or Spanish you would find the world looks very Eurocentric or Latinocentric
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Strange question. How can one lump some 300,000,000 people into the same pot? Of course, as an American, one gets used to having some people in other countries do just that. Ugh. Be that as it may, I've seen a lot of positive changes in the U.S. in my lifetime.
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Thanks for that observation. Fathers being more involved with their children, sometimes even carrying their babies.
Anyone under, say, thirty?, probably won't appreciate how rarely a man would touch his children in the 'good old days.' (And you can have them.)
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Probably because of the way America is seen to the outside world.
I agree it's wrong but.. hey thats life, nothing is perfect. ;o)-
It is my impression that most people are pretty good at distinguishing between America and Americans. It's a healthy attitude to cultivate towards any country and its people.
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I agree, but just saying like the way America is portayed to the rest of the world isn't good... hollywood has alot to answer for in that respect. ;o)
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Unfortunately, after living in the Southern USA, the Bible Belt to be exact, I would have to say that racism is alive, well and going strong. Sure claims are made about being non-racist but it's sad to see those same claims reversed as soon as a specific back is turned. Wish it were different. -
This question in itself could imply racism, or minimally a bias, upon the question seeker to me. I don't believe any country has a "corner" on racism.
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Yeah, the question does smell a tiny bit hypocritical.
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Everybody knows that (white) Americans are racist.
Just ask any college activist. Most of them are professors now, but 'tomayto, tomahto.'
You mean, really?
As a general rule, I'd say not. I've talked to enough people who have actually lived in other countries, and read enough about what happens to non-European immigrants to Europe, for example, to take the "America is racist" charge too seriously.
There are jerks everywhere, but for serious racism, I'd look elsewhere.-
Norski, you certainly have a jaded view of academia.
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Oh, dear. It did 'sound' like that, didn't it.
The last time I was involved with academia was 1985. To pass a required class in the teachers' program I had to learn that "all whites are racist." That's a direct quote. That, and some other experiences, left a distinct taste.
The native American (and proud of it) who was a fellow-student in that class was more upset than I was. With the exception of a few incidental comments, the class was devoted to the plight of inner-city blacks. Since the class was supposedly preparation for teaching in North Dakota, where quite a few Cree, Sioux, and related people live, he had expected more than a token reference to native Americans.
That was, of course, over twenty years ago.
I've also had good experiences with academicians. Two of my history professors, in particular, stand out as shining lights in my memory.
And, I said "campus activist." I recognize that many college professors realize it's no longer 1967.
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some serious racism? I can't believe what I am reading here. This Racism got here from Europe and continues to this day... The Big Mother Ship of Bigotry was blessed by the Churches of England to North America. (for the ones who think Americans made racism).
The biggest Issues right now is not with America, it's with the Genocide in Africa. Darfur is dying.. and we still are pointing the finger
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Bill Cosby
Andrew Young
Condoleezza Rice
Georgia Dunston
C. Delores Tucker
Yvonne Clark
Keith Ellison
Shirley Jackson
Henry Louis Gates
That's hardly an exhaustive list.
I agree that there are people with racial prejudices in America. I barely got past one of my in-law's ethnic biases.
But I haven't seen evidence of institutional, or broadly-based de facto racism, in this country for quite a few decades.
But what would an Irishman know: you know what they're like!;) -
No one said America "made it", that would make little sense anyway considering how "new" America is. :o/
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" But what would an Irishman know: you know what they're like!;)"
Well Norski my son is Part Irish and well i have to say I love them lol -
Your question should specify WHICH American you are speaking of. There are racists in every nationality just as there are those who are not. -
racism exist in America just like any other country but not all of them are racist. -
I guess we can always sense a differecne when we see someone from a different racial group. When things are different we are natually prone to liking or disliking the differences. If that makes us a racist, then I guess we all are. I come from a small country, Singapore...I notice that in big countries like the USA, China, India...people from one region see those coming from elsewhere as being different too. -
I would agree with Rampage. Japanese fans show total respect, even if the fighter loses they clap for him. Some ignorant UFC fans boo if a fight is slow or they don't like the fighter. Completely disrespectful. I cant 'stand that. A bunch of drunk retards that want to see some guys head get knocked off and blood squirt out.
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yes. but so are europeans, asians, south americans, austrialians, and africans -
One of my favorite one liners: I'm not racist, I HATE everybody! LOL. -
geez what a question~
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terible question that can trigger advesrs reactions
there are wonderful human beings everywhere, and others that require a little maintenance -
How can America be racist when it is built on every race, creed and color.
There are countries like the Saudi's that are racist. But never see questions about them.
Everyone has a problem with the this country till they get here. -
I don't think I'm racist, let me check though. -
who jump started this dead horse?
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UFC and WWE-- is about stereotypes, professional wrestling and professional fighting. It exploits stereotypes for entertainment, any kind of stereotype will do, racism, sexism, nationalism, intelligence. If they can get a rise out of you, they will do it. What does it have to do with anything reasonable? -
uhhh, y'know wrestling is fake, right? -
Yes, we Americans are racist. Not only the white Americans, but the black, brown, yellow and red ones too!
Everyone is racist, to some degree.
Me? I particularly hate that annoying bicycle race in France. -
It's not racism. It's more along the lines of loud, ignorant, overly-patriotic dunderheadedness on the fans part. Lack of respect goes right along with the overly-patriotic part. -
GET RID OF THIS THREAD
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agreed, wtf kind of a generalization is that?
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Are Americans Racist? ....(yawning)
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there are racists in every country.. why so big fuss? -
My Question here is that we cannot deny that different race are made up somewhat differently in terms of genetical traits... so i dont see any major issue in segregating based on that sole fact.... and acknowledging it... but then at the same time support equal opportunity-
what you're talking about used to be called Apartheid, the world didn't like it then, and I don't think they'll like it now
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Wow - that sounds stunningly racist. I guess you'd be pissed to know about my mixed-race kid then. -
If that's how you think, you would not be welcome in any sensible multi-cultural community
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The US Supreme Court declared separate but equal unconstitutional many decades ago. I'd be surprised if it were legal in the Philippines. I'm with the others here. The sentiment GFG avows is just plain wrong.
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I think GFG said he was from Singapore and I KNOW they have a constitution that considers everyone equal and racism unconstitutional
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WHO THE HELL CAST "RAISE UNDEAD" ON THIS THREAD?!
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This is at least 130 Damage -
I tried to look last night when it happened, but the time function isn't working for the post posts higher up. Someone commented on something in the middle somewhere where the times of posting aren't showing.
Seems like race is the new obsession on BC. Course implying Americans are a collective race is an original development.
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