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It seems that "in" needs "out" and "out" needs "in."

Where do you think you fall?

In the "in" crowd?

Or

The "out" crowd?

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  1. bringbackpluto
    I'll get this started. I coach a lot of sports teams. Mostly baseball, basketball and soccer. Even though I played a lot in my time, I always feel I'm not part of the "Old Boys Network" of coaches.

    I'm not sure I really want to be, but it's clear they are "IN" and I am "OUT." It's annoying because I can't figure out how it's determined. Certainly not by sports knowledge or skill.

    I just don't get it.
    1. ThriftShopRomantic
      Cliques are usually that way. It seems getting into any community so you feel a part of it has little to do with your knowledge, ability or even personality. It has to do with who was there, and a part of it first.

      I felt very "Out" at a particular decorating forum. If the discussion area had been a cocktail party, I would have been standing there, occasionally answering open questions, while people simply talked around me.

      I realized pretty quickly it had less to do with who I was, and more to do with who I wasn't.
    2. TJlubrano
      "I realized pretty quickly it had less to do with who I was, and more to do with who I wasn't."

      Oh you said that perfectly TSR!

      I have the same thing. Especially at college. You had several groups of students and I always felt like I didn't really belong in it. I could talk to them, but I felt part of the group.

      I can tell stories just to create a more relax atmosphere. Especially because everyone at college was so uptight and so business like. Sure you you can 'act' a bit, but the students usually were already feeling like an adult and making fun of things or making jokes wasn't approriate *sigh*.

      Having a bit of dry humor or using English words didn't help either. And when I made remark about something, with a bit of humor...they usually didn't get it...so I tried to create another story around it ^_^''.

      But it worked the other way around as well. Most of the time I didn't get their inside jokes/stories either haha!

      I'm off to read your post!!
    3. Zpoet
      I've always been in the "in crowd," I suppose. Which might not be the best place to be....
  2. scf
    I hope I'm in the out-crowd. I need some fresh air and elbow room.
    1. bringbackpluto
      I hear ya! It's kind of freeing in a way.
  3. dereksmithers
    I, for one, have never been part of an "in" crowd, nor have I ever harboured desires to be a part of a clique or fraternity. Having said that, misanthropy does come with its fair share of downfalls. So does mindless violence.
    1. bringbackpluto
      We should all think for ourselves.

      Some people are just "in" without even trying or caring. Not sure how that works??!!
    2. dereksmithers
      "Some people are just "in" without even trying or caring."

      Perhaps blonde hair extensions and shiny mobile phones are factors to be considered, along with the insurgence of phrases such as "defo" and "foshiz". Personally, I feel that Hollywood has a lot to answer for and if any of these phrases wind up in a game of Scrabble...well, may the Lord have mercy on us all.
  4. nothingprofound
    I'm a loner and outsider by choice. I'm naturally gregarious and friendly, and have always had lots of friends, but that's because I like people not because I want to be part of a group. I once altered a famous quote of Groucho Marx to describe myself: "I could never be a member of a club that had any other members."
    1. dereksmithers
      So is you being here a paradox or is it more to do with your personal values being thoughtlessly undermined?
    2. bringbackpluto
      I wrote my reply to "dereksmithers" before I read yours. I guess I'm describing YOU!!!
    3. nothingprofound
      No paradox. I like the people. It's like stopping by for a moment and having a pleasant chat with one's neighbors. And I have no personal values to be undermined.
  5. MissSuzie
    I have always been able to fit in everywhere I go. It must just be my charming personality (or perhaps the death threats played a part).
    1. bringbackpluto
      We'll go with the former.
    2. MissSuzie
      You're probably right.
  6. newblogmogul
    Im not in or out I have alot of friends and I fit in where ever I go, I was born to be leader, not a follower. One thing that I have observe when I go places is that when you roll wit a group of people, its easy to find trouble.
    1. bringbackpluto
      Trouble does come from not thinking for oneself. Or being a radical and always thinking for oneself. OK, now I'm confusing MYSELF!!!
  7. calais50
    I'm so far "out" that I can't even see the "in" crowd.
    1. bringbackpluto
      Funny!! Love it!
  8. sjtavo
    I'm more of an independent outsider - I've never been one who wanted to fall into one of the cliques - I was sort of friends with everyone, knew all the popular kids, grew up with the hot older guys which gave me an edge but purposely befriended the lesser-knowns because they were more interesting. Today my friendships are close and few - and very diverse. There's the quality control inspector/barmaid and single mother, the waitress/full-time student and single mother, the international accountant, the alaskan theatre manager, the MTV writer in NYC....the 71 year old artist.... I prefer to include myself with a group of people who are interesting rather than an in-crowd that thinks alike.
    1. bringbackpluto
      I describe myself as having a bit of Forrest Gump in me. But you take the cake on that one!!! Interesting.
  9. ThriftShopRomantic
    Of course, how often would people even say they were NOT an independent thinker, even if they were a part of some group by all others' standards?

    I mean, no one goes around saying, "Hey, I'm a total sheep, I don't think for myself and I love being surrounded by people just like me"?

    In everybody's own mind they're almost always unique, different, a self-starter, a leader...

    It's the same phenomena that means nobody's ever a bad driver themselves-- just everyone else on the road is.
    1. calais50
      You hit the nail on the head.
    2. bringbackpluto
      Funny about the driving. I didn't know everyone thought they were good??

      What's funny is when I see my neighbor hanging with the Goth crowd. And mind you, it's all good to me. But I know they view themselves as unique thinkers and individuals, but then they're in a crowd with the same types of thinkers. Is that different from the preppies??

      We're all sheep in some way.
  10. Onchong
    I am always flexible!
    1. lifeshighway
      I tend to be in the out-crowd because I cannot pick up the secret body language of the in-crowd.
  11. lotusb
    I find that clicks tend to form in small confined places..like high schools, colleges, small towns, etc. I don't think they have applied to my life in at least a decade. I travel with like-minded people, and I don't consider that to be in or out of anything.
  12. janeblogs
    I that anyone with a modicum of sensitivity will have felt on the "outside" at some time.

    IMHO, anyone who has never felt that way probably has very little imagination or empathy.
  13. ThinkingUhuru
    I don't do "crowds".. I do relationships with people that give me meaning.
  14. sorcerer
    im in and out ..in and out..in and out..in and out.in and out..
  15. FredSr2009
    Neither, I’m basically a loner.
  16. bringbackpluto
    I think the "Crowd" piece of this is often thrust upon us. High School. Job. Even parents have to deal with other parents with play dates, coaching, meetings.

    It's nice to not be "in" or "out" and just be.

    Well, Sorcerer, unless you're alluding to something else.

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