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Do you think she was likely killed with the help of the US or was she killed to be a martyr for her cause, whatever you think her cause was.

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  1. globalgirl
    What do you think and why?
    1. acousticguitarist
      As complex as global warming
    2. globalgirl
      Yes, and I just dug up some really interesting info for a new thread

      BTW, maybe we need some "friends" here!
  2. NatetheGrate
    It seems likely to me that the Pakistani government was involved and, since we're propping it up, that makes it our fault, too. I've posted several times about the crisis in Pakistan on my blog, Views from the Left Coast. Check it out sometime.
  3. freeatlast
    Sometimes it's hard to be a woman...
    1. acousticguitarist
      this has nothing to do with being a woman
  4. momoftwingirls
    I think like Nate the Grate does. The Pakistani government and ours did not want her influence on any front. Therefore, when she made comments about Al-Qaeda not killing her, back in October 2007, she must have known she would be a target for their next suicide bombing. I think she was willing to go out a martyr for her cause and to thumb her nose at the U.S. Government just waiting to do her in.

    And, since we, the US Government, trained Al-Qaeda, they wanted to get their monies worth and elimiate a thorn in their side.
    1. talen32
      She was pro American and had American ties. You might want to research her a little.
  5. bsd13
    I think I wrote a long blog article about it, but the short answer is that when you make a bed for yourself eventually you get to lie in it.

    www.ablogaboutnothing.com/benazir-bhutto-assasination/

    Benazir Bhutto is not a hero, she was a two-bit criminal.
    1. pmpa
      Your first sentence raises some suspicion!

      "I think I wrote a long blog article about it..."

      You think?!!

      If you have wrote that article you should know it. Besides that, you mention it as a "long blog article"!

      hummmm...
    2. acousticguitarist
      maybe you could write a blues for classic guitar
    3. nyirendac
      I like your article so much...If some of you guys have not been there yet, I ask you to read it.
  6. momoftwingirls
    If is sounds like I think she is a hero, that would be an incorrect assumption. I barely know anything about her, but Fox News analyst who went to school with her certainly lift her up as a saint.

    My only real question was if she was murdered my the US government or Al Qaeda or were both, they must have been planning this assination together for months. Our government and Al Qaeda wanted to see her die and what a better way to begin a new year with a fresh killing of an ex prime minister.
    1. bsd13
      Wasn't trying to imply that was how you felt at all. Was just pointing out that many people seem to think (wrongly) that she was a hero and a saint. Why would our government want to see her die? They were the ones propping her up to run not against Musharraf, but together WITH him in order to force democracy on the Pakistani people.
  7. cooper
    There is a lot of disagreement among her own people as to what she actually was and many of the middle calls Pakistani's were not exactly enthralled with her. She had one attempt on her life when she returned, so this is not a large surprise. Historically political assassinations, not necessarily Islamic extremist based, are fairly common, her father, Indira Ghandi and Ghandi's son. It was a matter of time.
  8. voodooKobra
    All sorrow aside, she couldn't have been that intelligent if she stuck HER HEAD OUT OF THE SODDING SUN-ROOF!!
  9. acousticguitarist
    it will get the desired effect that those who are in control globally want, instability, finger pointing in lots of directions every which way

    this is incredibly complex and who really knows the source of the attack

    when things like this happen, it's sometimes a diversion to take the focus off something else, I'd be watching the lesser news very closely
    1. momoftwingirls
      I agree 100% acousticgutarist.
    2. acousticguitarist
      but in the end, it's better to just stand back and watch the show whether we like it or not.

      Years ago a good friend of mine said a classic quote that I'll never forget, it was when there was great chaos going on between a number of people that I knew. It was very easy for a number of people to end up involved in the situation. He said, "don't enter their karma", and although that's an Eastern term, it can easily be applicable across the board to different cultures. Sometimes it's worth recognising that we are only bystanders in the show.
    3. BellyDanceGirl
      Excellent point
  10. myroslimh
    maybe coz' of her own doings and also previous endervous
  11. Shardul
    i think musharaf killed her !......












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    1. acousticguitarist
      how could anyone really know
    2. nyirendac
      No. AlQaeda has already claimed responsibility.
    3. acousticguitarist
      not sure if i'd believe any reports about anything, it's as credible as believing what you see on the news as absolute truth
  12. bookchica
    This is a very loaded discussion! Whether it was US/Musharraf/Al-Qaeda or her own people responsible for her assassination, the common man can never know for sure. But one thing is for sure.. this brings out more urgently the chaos in Pakistan.
    1. globalgirl
      Yes, bookchica! Her assassination is clearly creating a very unstable political situation in Pakistan. As a Muslim woman leader promoting democracy , she was a chief target by Islamic extremists. Her murder is creating more chaos in a region of the world rocking in political instability. Who knows what Musharraf will do next, and what her murder will produce. Know for certain it was a calculated and well thought out execution and like Nate said on his blog (in so many words), eerily similar to a former US President's execution. However, I dare not drop premature conclusions. We must wait and see and know that the truth will be revealed at some point.
    2. acousticguitarist
      Hi G, and if people know the truth of the matter, does it make a difference, there are many things that have happened and regardless of an awareness of it, it makes no difference in the scheme of things

      i'm aware of many things, but like a lot of people will never mention them, and if i do, people say 'so what'

      truth is stranger than fiction
    3. globalgirl
      Hi Tony (it is VERY early here!)
      Does the truth matter? Yes and no. I am more interested in the political implications of her assassination than who actually killed her. He killed himself along with 20 others anyway. That region of the world is so unstable and there are some who say that Pakistan and India could very well result in a war, causing our troops to get involved. We are a nation already involved in a very controversial war and have problems with recruitment. Our young soldiers are dying and being injured, while recruitment is more difficult with each passing year.

      My mind is still kind of asleep.
    4. acousticguitarist
      this is too complex...

      i'm going to bed
  13. xtremer
    I agree with shardul....Musharraf can be behind this, because if she would have been elected as PM, Mush would be as good as dead.....let me tell you, militants don't use snipers, they use bombs and grenades mostly...I smell Mush and ISI in this.............
  14. xtremer
    If India and Pakistan engage in war, US troops need not interfere, India has the fourth largest army and specialised in counter terrorism!
  15. MyDen
    There are probably many who wants her dead. From Musharraf and the army, who see her as a political rival, to Al-Qaeda and Taleban who do not wish to see the restoration of democracy in Pakistan.

    But what is clear though, is that her assassination has made the already chaotic situation in Pakistan, worse and this has implications to stability and the fight against terrorism in that region. Unlike what was written in the post by bsd 13, she was viewed by many in Pakistan as a symbol of hope, an icon of reconciliation to the many years of strife in that country, and not the two-bit criminal as mentioned by bsd 13.

    Coming so soon after she was so cold-bloodedly murdered, I was actually disturbed by the ...crass nature of bsd 13 post. While it is true that her past governance has been associated with corruption, nobody deserves to die the way she did.If one had read her memoir "Daughter Of The East", you will realise that the distinctive and over-riding trait about her was her determination to bring peace and stability to her country.
  16. bookchica
    I agree with xtremer on the war thing. India can very well take care of herself. My thought is that US strategy on Pakistan really needs a rethink. Its a wait and watch right now to see how this will affect future policies.
    It's just such a horrid thing to happen, still thinking about her assassination.
  17. xtremer
    US must only be worried about the Pakistani nukes, of course not for India, but for the safety of US, in case it gets into the wrong hands....

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