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I know there are other threads on here about it. But a few of them have referral links which I thought we weren't supposed to do on here. So I wanted to start a clean one without them.


Traffic exchange sites like this, blog explosion, and other things that provide headlines are usually such a piss poor traffic source. I signed up for it though just to prove that I am right. And I am willing to bet that in a weeks period of time I don't get 100 page views from it.

Should we start a pool for fun?

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  1. RobSellen
    I agree it's sad the place here has been spammed to death with it. :o(

    My view, you could be right, one thing IS for sure, it's John Reese who will get the biggest traffic surge from it.

    Will be interesting to see how it goes. :o)
  2. pointlessbanter
    My traffic has been going pretty well so I would imagine my headlines would be on there a lot. But I never click on things like that... So I think we should all take a guess on how much traffic I get... I am going to go with 44 page views.
    1. crkian
      Is that from yourself check to see if its still working
    2. pointlessbanter
      lol... it won't give me stats for 24-48 hours... I don't think I am going to get 44 page views from it according to google analytics... I don't know if I will trust their numbers
    3. crkian
      Or their Rob.Ots file that does the clicking for them
    4. RobSellen
      Sorry, you lost me there mate?
    5. pointlessbanter
      good call... I have enough stats programs that I can use to really look at this. It should be interesting.
    6. crkian
      I lost myself
    7. pointlessbanter
      Basically we were talking about the bots they will use that will show up as clicks on your webpage...

    8. RobSellen
      Why have you posted a pic of my ex mrs? ;o)
    9. crkian
      No5 is alive
  3. ladyinfluence
    i just signed up for blogrush this morning and i don't see any traffic coming from the site..
  4. borzack
    I've just sign up too, no stats yet
  5. FiddyP
    it bothers me that people are making outrageous claims of increasing traffic with this tool when they haven't been a member long enough to even check google analytics!

    I give 7 reasons why I wont be using it on my blog, RobSellen makes a good point when he says John Reese will benefit the most
    1. pointlessbanter
      I am going to use it for a week and I know it isn't going to do anything for me. There are tons of widgets with headlines like this between blog exchange and other sites like that, none of these widgets draw traffic.
    2. RobSellen
      Of course, he will benefit the most BUT hopefully as you see from my post below that data will be used for our benefit. ;o)
  6. clioandme
    It might get a few hits, Kevin, but I'd be more concerned about giving up space on my own blog for links to blogs I know nothing about. One user says I can filter out blogs I don't like, but who has time to keep up with that?

    Also, another user made an interesting point that could support your prediction: the widget will become such a commonplace that it will merge with the background noise on blogs that we already ignore.
  7. monaco
    signed up 8 hours ago. nothing significant from my page views yet!!!!!
  8. clioandme
    Someone on a different forum made another interesting observation. The way the layers are set up to include credit for referrals, this has a "pyramidish" whiff to it. Not that it is illegal or anything, but I wonder how sustainable the model will be for people further down the food chain.
    1. RobSellen
      Why I am gonna test it for a week or two...see what happens. ;o)

      robsellen.com/2007/09/blogrush-why-bother.html
    2. pointlessbanter
      Oh it is very pyramidish but everyone is drinking the juice. I will use it then bash the crap out of it on buzznetworker if it doesn't do anything.
  9. Elixir
    Here's the latest schmuk to sign up for it. It's still in Beta mode and as Beta testers, let's just see what transpires.

    Most of you would appear to have joined very recently, perhaps we should give it a period of at least 30 days before we crash and burn it?
    1. pointlessbanter
      Nah a week should be good enough, it is getting whored out enough
  10. DaneMorgan
    I installed it, but I'm not expecting much from it either.

    And since coming to the understanding that the good traffic comes from places where you've been pre-sold a bit, I don't expect much from the traffic that does arrive, but hey, you gots ta try it right?

    What really struck me was the number of reviews of it out there that seemed to have been written before the thing was even available. And the number of reviews already making promises of the "best new traffic source" when there is just no way to know this yet one way or another.
    1. RobSellen
      Just less people to trust mate. ;o)
    2. pointlessbanter
      I think it will cure my erection, baldness, and refinance my home as well... That is what happens when people get bonuses for having people sign up below them.
  11. DaneMorgan
    Oh man, I didn't get the version with the refi! I got gyped.
    1. pointlessbanter
      You must have gotten the free ring tones one.
  12. Vaughan1
    Ive just installed it but Im not sure how good it's going to be. i think it will draw traffic sometimes and other times it will do nothing.
    1. clioandme
      Seeing as how you do not actually write any of your own material, you are not really going out on a limb here anyway, are you?
    1. crkian
      no need to post in every discussion on the thing
    2. pointlessbanter
      I just report the links... screw em
  13. pointlessbanter
    Maybe I am making a rush to judgment, I just got an e-mail from someone that wants to feature my blog on their page and ask me a few questions about it. They said they found me via blog rush.... so wow I at least got one hit off of it.
    1. crkian
      It comes down to the page hit thing, you have to have viewers like you do to get hits back
    2. pointlessbanter
      the thing is I still don't see anything in my regular stats
  14. tenanimalsdrool
    i just installed the widget on two of my sites and I am excited, i have to wait for a week to see if it really works or not, if it doesn't, well...
  15. ianternet
    wow this is very interesting - I created a post about it about how a smaller blog will not be able to get 100 views - since it really benefits the bigger guys

    www.ianfernando.com/2007/blogrush-did-not-think-about-the-little-guys/

    and I am yet to see my stats! is anyone seeing stats?
    1. clioandme
      The pyramid effect.
    2. daisythecurlycat
      I still don't see any stats and it has been longer than "24-48 hours."
    1. clioandme
      But without the exchange of money, just blog real estate.
  16. WT
    I have noticed the widget displaying porn sites, so be careful if you don't want that on your sidebar.
  17. Pregnantexec
    I have installed it and I have also used it to find new bloggers. I have had TWO new readers link from it (okay it is only day two, but...more than came from BlogCatalog, cough, cough). Andy Beard's post today was spot on I thought...

    andybeard.eu/2007/09/blogrush-7-critical-mistakes.html
  18. cardiogirl
    I did install it yesterday and have yet to get one hit from it. If it works, I'm all for it, but I wonder if you have to write a post about BlogRush for your site to register...
  19. Pregnantexec
    Nope...sorry cardio girl...I have not sent a note back to you yet. The idea behind the article is I wanted to let my reader know about it because I have a lot of "niche" readers who may not be aware of the widget. And, if they sign up using my widget as a link, it does allow my blog posts to have more exposure. From what I understand. Writing an article is NOT a requirement.
  20. daisythecurlycat
    Well, my Blogrush Dashboard is finally working and showing my statistics, so that's a good sign.
  21. Pregnantexec
    My dashboard is working as well...here is what is says under "my stats:

    Current Credit Balance: 294Credits Earned Today: 224
    From Your Traffic: 162
    From Your Referral Network: 62

    Credits Earned Last 7 Days: 804
    From Your Traffic: 686
    From Your Referral Network: 118

    Credits Earned Last 30 Days: 804
    From Your Traffic: 686
    From Your Referral Network: 118
    1. clioandme
      But none of those numbers say anything about traffic, or am I missing something?
  22. n8
    I signed up for Blogrush after reading about it on Dosh Dosh. It's only been a day so I cant access my stats yet. I'll leave it up for a while and see what happens.
  23. pointlessbanter
    My dashboard is up as well...

    Credits Earned Today: 1,779
    From Your Traffic: 1,779
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 7 Days: 5,427
    From Your Traffic: 5,427
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 30 Days: 5,427
    From Your Traffic: 5,427
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    I am earning credits but lets look at the most important things:
    Impressions Clicks
    TODAY 1,636 2
    LAST 7 DAYS 2,279 2
    LAST 30 DAYS 2,279 2
    1. Pingable
      So you have got 2 clicks from all those pageviews?
    2. clioandme
      Could you please explain the final set of numbers?
    3. Kiwipulse
      stoneman it's the number of impressions that your blog posts have been displayed on the others bloggers blogrush's widget.
    4. clioandme
      So 2,279 impressions and 2 clicks. Got it.
    5. pointlessbanter
      Yeah basically my titles got displayed over 1000 times and I got two clicks...
    6. clioandme
      Maybe you should create a banner or t-shirt . . .

      My titles appeared on 1000 blogs and all I got was . . .
  24. TonyB
    Im curious about these numbers. Getting credits is easy. You get a credit each time your page is viewed. Calculating the credits is easy to. So then whats the big deal of a balance of credits for number of page views on your blog? Isn't the increase in traffic to your blog more relevant?
    1. clioandme
      Yes, but the credits are relevant to the pyramid side of their scheme. If the thing grows, these statistics will justify giving some blogs more exposure than others on the widgets.
    2. TonyB
      Stoneman, I suppose that is a good way to do this. It enables lesser known blogs to get as much exposure as larger blogs. If there weren't a pyramid type mechanism, larger blogs would receive more exposure and lesser known blogs wouldnt be able to compete.
  25. Pregnantexec
    i don't mind displaying my stats everyday if you are interested...I have about 150-200 unique visitors/day...ususally 250-500 page views
    1. clioandme
      But how much of that is from BlogRush?
  26. Pregnantexec
    i still don't understand a lot but i am willing to learn with the rest of you
  27. Pregnantexec
    oh, stoneman...i have only had blogrush installed for less than 72 hours. the e-mail from them yesterday said they were still working out some kinks. according to my stat counter...I have had three clicks to my blog today. again, more than came from blogcatalog. But, I still get more traffic from stumble than any other referral source.
  28. Ambrozo
    If clicks, then I have nothing yet, 0 clicks today :-/
  29. Linc4Justice
    Generally I shy away from hype, especially when everyone in creation starts getting involved. Personally I tend to like my individuality, and if that means I won't be able to benefit from the 3 extra visitors Blogrush brings to my site, then so be it. :-P
    1. pointlessbanter
      3.... that is asking for way too much
  30. Starlily
    I've just added it as well...will let you know if anything dramatic happens
  31. ladynada
    ooooh goodie stats! I see mine now too, thanks.
    nada
  32. ladynada
    one thing is for sure, alot of people are trying out blogrush
    nada
  33. pointlessbanter
    Stats Update-

    Credits Earned Today: 2,519
    From Your Traffic: 2,519
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 7 Days: 7,108
    From Your Traffic: 7,108
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 30 Days: 7,108
    From Your Traffic: 7,108
    From Your Referral Network: 0
    Impressions Clicks
    TODAY 2,373 2
    LAST 7 DAYS 3,802 3
    LAST 30 DAYS 3,802 3
    1. clioandme
      Cool! Another day, another hit.
    2. pointlessbanter
      What is the ratio like 1250 to 1?

      Outstanding.
    3. Linc4Justice
      Gees, I got better results from Adsense.
  34. EndohT
    I thought Blog Explosion is as good as dead? Nobody seems to be approving any new blog submissions at all.
    1. pointlessbanter
      Blog Explosion is complete and utter garbage
    2. EndohT
      That's what I discovered, even removed the badge to it since it's dead. Even small-time directories are giving me more traffic than one which was described to EXPLODE traffic to my blog.
    3. monkeytale
      Blogmad has also entered the garbage category as well.
    4. EndohT
      Thank God you mention it mikster... I was still considering whether to be a part of it anot. Thanks for the heads up!
    5. pointlessbanter
      All of this exchanges are pretty worthless your time would be better spent using stumbleupon
  35. RobSellen
    Ok, well I have my stats here... at bloody last!

    I have just added the widget and made a post about it and NOTHING else. not pronmoted or anything.

    I will blog about this soon as. ;o)

    -------------------------

    Credits Earned Today: 1,035
    From Your Traffic: 44
    From Your Referral Network: 991
    Credits Earned Last 7 Days: 1,712
    From Your Traffic: 650
    From Your Referral Network: 1,062
    Credits Earned Last 30 Days: 1,712
    From Your Traffic: 650
    From Your Referral Network: 1,062

    (impressions) (clicks)
    TODAY 293 1
    LAST 7 DAYS617 1
    LAST 30 DAYS617 1

    --------------------------

    My statcounter shows ONE visit too.

    So, pretty crap really.

    As pointless said...stumbleupon is better! ;o)
  36. cjbart
    I am amazed at how well versed everyone is here.
    Good comments about Blog Rush. John Reese was with us at the
    World Internet Main Event. Everyone fawned of course...

    I joined while there.

    Notice the program is having many Blips and glitches..
    I wil remain neutral, after all, I ventured nothing but a
    few minutes to Join
    1. clioandme
      And blog real estate.
  37. borzack
    mine

    TODAY 139 0
    LAST 7 DAYS 546 2
    LAST 30 DAYS 546 2
  38. alanchansg
    I joined few days ago. and so far got 2 referral.. but it don't really mentioned how many traffic you get?!?
  39. cardiogirl
    Thanks Pregnantexec for the answer to my burning question. Not one to be left out, I'd like to throw down my very impressive stat:

    TODAY 245 0
    LAST 7 DAYS 367 1
    LAST 30 DAYS 367 1

    Now I have to say I am not super stoked. I did peruse the article attached to BlogRush that gave suggestions on how to best utilize BlogRush through your headlines, so I'll give that a whirl.

    But so far, not seeing the love.
    1. wares4life
      Cardiogirl you still looking for link love from PPP?
  40. Bullhunter
    I installed it and will give it a try. It can always be removed. I'm sure there will be some bugs along the way but we won't know unless we try.
    1. pointlessbanter
      I am listed in the humor/comedy segment... So I am in the right place as far as that goes. The more I see other people's numbers the less and less impressed I get. I think Darren Rowse got like 97 hits out of 20K showings.
  41. pointlessbanter
    Today's Update:

    Credits Earned Today: 2,061
    From Your Traffic: 2,061
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 7 Days: 9,230
    From Your Traffic: 9,230
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    Credits Earned Last 30 Days: 9,230
    From Your Traffic: 9,230
    From Your Referral Network: 0

    IMPRESSIONS CLICKS
    TODAY 2,952 0
    LAST 7 DAYS 6,829 3
    LAST 30 DAYS 6,829 3
    1. monkeytale
      Wow! 3 for 2952. Now that's...um...impressive...or something. lol
    2. pointlessbanter
      No that is 3 for 6,829

      I was 0 for 2952 yesterday
    3. clioandme
      So you're shooting way below you expectations, even though your blog is chugging along nicely otherwise.

      Now I don't think much of BlogRush, but there is one possible problem with your example. You talked about your keywords being too all over the place for Google AdSense to be effective. Is it possible that the same problem applies to BlogRush? Or are you being shown in the right categories?
    4. pointlessbanter
      I am listed in the humor/comedy segment... So I am in the right place as far as that goes. The more I see other people's numbers the less and less impressed I get. I think Darren Rowse got like 97 hits out of 20K showings.
    5. clioandme
      Thanks for the added input. I just wanted to be sure, since I'm prejudiced against this operation in the first place.
    6. pointlessbanter
      Leave it to Nelson to sum it all up
  42. Ambrozo
    Cool! 0 for 893 today, lol.
  43. crpitt
    Thanks for keeping us updated on this
    and reassuring me that it is a waste of time
  44. gmoney
    I think part of the battle is this product is only a few days old.
    John Reese is a master at marketing. I am working for a guy that knows John well and for all practical purposes helped John Reese when he was a unknown. Now with that said there was a huge ground swell that appeared to be VIRAL, but it was more marketing driven by affiliate promotions and some very smart blogging and marketing tactics. I think the product is good, but the community that jumped on it was Affliates and marketers not the "real" blogging community.
    I was talking to the team at BlogCatalog last night and we were kicking around ideas. I think they started a group about really helping bloggers monetize and grow there traffic. So your input on that group will be invaluable. So look for the group.
    1. pointlessbanter
      It doesn't matter how great of a viral marketer he is. The fact of the matter is people don't click on widgets like that. He has done a great job promoting himself and creating a buzz, which is all well and fine but the product is something that will not work.
  45. gmoney
    I started a group in the new groups section to get more info one what is going on with blogrush. Anyone can join this group

    www.blogcatalog.com/group/blogrush
  46. SportsNarrative
    Many of these sites remind me of that old urban myth back when scammers plied their trade in the want-ads of various newspapers.

    "Send 10 dollars and find out how to make easy money!"

    The response would arrive in an envelope a few weeks later. A single piece of paper was enclosed with one typed line:

    "Do what I did."
  47. Kamal911
    I dont have blogrush on ma blog...coz i dun like to put too many widgets on ma blog....

    but for those who hav it, u shud leave it for atleast a month...coz its new and the developers mite be facin probs wit bugz n stuff....

    who knowz it might fire up leavin u behined
  48. pointlessbanter
    IMPRESSIONS CLICKS
    TODAY 3,179 1
    LAST 7 DAYS 9,745 4
    LAST 30 DAYS 9,745 4

    Also they had this listed:

    IMPORTANT MESSAGE: Click- through rates are very low right now due to problems with some users cheating the system. We are a few days away from removing all abuse from the system and you will see your click-rates increase. We are also moving to a Manual Review Process for all member blogs which will also increase the traffic you receive. Thank you for your patience -- we're working hard to improve this beta version of our service.


    Apparently people have been hiding the code on their page so the widget doesn't display, which is what they are saying is hurting the click through rate. I think though that this is getting blown out of proportion a bit, even if 1/5 of the people are doing it the amount of clicks from this program are really low.
  49. Manictastic
    They claim to have a click-through rate of 0.44% That's around 4 for every thousand views. That's just too low.
    1. AndyBeard
      0.44% per display credit is actually fairly high, as very few blogs receive higher than 2.2% CTR on something like Adsense, unless they sacrifice subscribers by sticking a block above the fold in the middle of their content.
  50. AndyBeard
    Don't count traffic numbers from the console in Blogrush

    If you haven't got some kind of 3rd party tracking then make sure you use at least Google Analytics (great for time on site, bounce rate etc) plus some kind of real time tracking that also allows filtering, possibly the pro version on MyBlogLog, or one of the many free real time tracking solutions.

    I have written a lot more detail about tracking Blogrush and been providing details of the real traffic I have received.

    So far it is over 100 visitors, and none of that is from referrals, as referral credits are not being used.
    1. Pregnantexec
      I still think it is cheesy that you cannot add a BlogRush widget to a WordPress blog. It doesn’t work with Wordpress.com blogs, only self-hosted Wordpress.org ones. That has ticked off a whole lot of bloggers. Erin
  51. wares4life
    Does anyone remember the "tool" for "owning the internet" - ANOGO aka AGLOCO?

    Do you think the rush is in the same genre??
  52. Lovebabz
    I just added blogrush on my blog. I am going to give it some time to see if does anything. It isn't in my way and I don't mind having it on my blog. I am off to prison in less than 10 days--I will be back in 30 days--I will have guest bloggers so I will see.
    www.lovebabz.blogspot.com
    1. RobSellen
      You are going to prison?
  53. SportsNarrative
    According to lovebabz's blog, she is being banged up in a few days for a white collar crime. It was said in such a casual and breezy way that I did a double take as well.

    Fair play to her for dealing with it in such a positive way. The tagline on her blog banner is: "Notes and views on being a wife, mother, felon and citizen of the world."

    Good luck inside lovebabz. It should provide some good fodder for blogging once you're out.

    I've just left your blog open on another tab because I like the music that you have there (something I don't usually like on blogs but this is nice.)
  54. Serena
    Good luck, lovebabz ~

    I signed up to Blogrush today as I figure it doesn't hurt to try it out for 30 days or so. If it doesn't do what it claims, I will remove it. Apparently, the other links they list in the widget are supposed to be in the same category as your own blog but I'm concerned that it could get out of hand if malicious or pornographic sites sneak their way into the mix.

    I am one who will click on widget links and have already found a couple of nice art blogs via Blogrush to add to my Favourites.
  55. Pregnantexec
    At this point...I kinda see this as a Stumble widget that Stumble never created but John Reese figured out they should have provided. Thoughts? By the way...for a baby site, I have had 5 page loads today from BlogRush without any effort. I like this widget! Erin

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