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Why are dominance-based societal models still embraced in this day and age. After all, children just copy the general behavior of parents/culture:

www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-07-09-rape-bullying-school_N.htm

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  1. dbowles1017
    Shut up and give me your lunch money shrimp!
    1. Agit8r
      oh yeah. watch your back on the way home, bitch!
    2. dbowles1017
      You ain't s**t b***h! You think Im scared of you?
    3. Agit8r
      well this discussion is going well. Point being that in modern middle schools, appearently one of us* would have his scrotum in the others face.


      *me of course
    4. dbowles1017
      I would tea bag you hardcore

      and pants you in gym class
    5. Agit8r
      fair enough DB. You got anything constructive to add?
    6. dbowles1017
      I didn't read the article. I was a bully though.


      We made this one kid cry once a week.

      Ok, just read it, we never tried to rape anyone. Just pulling pants down, name calling, and the occasional beat down
    7. Agit8r
      Thanx for the testamonial.

      what made you feel the need to do that?
    8. dbowles1017
      No idea. It was funny though
    9. Agit8r
      did it make you feel better about yourself?
    10. dbowles1017
      Not really. It was a form of entertainment.

      I didn't do it make myself feel better
    11. Agit8r
      well you and half your school didn't get shot up, so all's well that ends well, right
    12. dbowles1017
      We had a bomb threat, and several 'gun threats'
    13. Agit8r
      so what's that kid up to nowadays?
    14. dbowles1017
      No idea. He was a ginger though, so im assuming it's still bad
    15. Agit8r
      If there's really Karma, he'll be giving you a job interview soon
    16. dbowles1017
      And i'd bully him into giving me the job ;p
    17. Agit8r
      then he'd think you're his work buddy... punishment fits the crime either way
    18. dbowles1017
      Well, karma did work out, just not in his favor

    19. Agit8r
      that's one nasty looking "ginger"!
    20. dbowles1017
      its why we shouldnt enhance our vegetables
    21. kat822
      seriously Carrot Top is a complete freak, damn
      oh and if he had pubes I'd be able to see them ok I need to throw up now
  2. Deray28
    I'm in shock and disgusted by what I read on the note. How sick of the kids to do that! I'm glad is coming out in the open and it is not staying as a school matter. They committed a crime and need to be punished for it! It doesn't matter where it happened.
  3. laurencefosgate
    I think bullying in general is nowhere what it was twenty, fifty or a hundred years ago. School systems around here{in Florida} are very "bully conscious." There are always subtle forms of bullying and they are almost impossible to control. It even happens in forum discussions sometimes. A couple of months ago these four guys threw so much invective at me I got completely covered in it. But I stood my ground and eventually they ran away.
    1. Agit8r
      that's different. You're a grown man.

      but as for it having always gone on (and perhaps worse), you're correct. There has always been a dominance-based society. It ebbs and flows somewhat, but it is progressivly being done away with.
  4. laurencefosgate
    Bullying of children is sad and it probably is most often inflicted on them by stern, insecure parents who verbally and physically push their children around. The kids take what they learn from their parents and practice it on others on the playground.

    And the cyber-bullying, I didn't mind at all. A little dust up in the verbal ring suits me fine, especially if it helps make the schoolyard safer for evrybody.
  5. morgantj
    Peoples obsession with control combined with how society has shaped male's to think they should be tough, dominant, boasting testosterone driven actions, etc... lead to unthoughtful violent actions.

    I just watched two soccer coaches go at it during a 5-6 old age group soccer game. They were getting in each others faces both trying to boast who was more tough, both trying not to show what they believed to be a weakness if they were to back down. And with parents as the audience, they felt they have to prove to everyone that they were the one that was the toughest. I was disappointed in their behavior and felt bad for the kids having to be influenced by that.
    1. Agit8r
      that is unfortunate. Makes me want to start a machismo-video-thread to make poke fun at such things.
    2. Agit8r
      maybe it's wrong to laugh as such silliness...

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T_MOrnS_UU

      I guess I'm going to heck then
    3. Agit8r
      I can't find any more. Youtube sucks
    4. dbowles1017
      That is effin hilarious
  6. offendedblogger
    Well I speak for all females who secretly want their man to drag them by the hair, throw them over their shoulder and use a bull whip on them.

    Not necessarily in that order, either.
    1. Agit8r
      that's a whole nother subject
    2. offendedblogger
      Then I shouldn't mention that all women also secretly want to be told what to do, when to do it and that they'll get a good, swift spanking if they don't??

    3. dbowles1017
      Done, done and done ;p

      and also, done, done and done again
    4. Agit8r
      I think that though it is more widespread than most care to admit, it is a broad generalization that isn't quite true. Just like I'm sure that there are men who don't want to do such.
  7. legbamel
    As a non-guy and a non-bully, I've always found that sort of posturing and abuse of those weaker than you to be ridiculous and mock-worthy. Sorry, DB, but if you think it's funny that you made people miserable and afraid (and don't feel a bit bad about it now) then that says worse things about you than it does about the kid to whom you were so casually cruel.
    1. dbowles1017
      Why do you think I have horns?
    2. Agit8r
      80 years from now, he's that old guy in above video
  8. aspotofblog
    Karma's a bitch.
    1. dbowles1017
      Unless you bully karma
    2. aspotofblog
      You can only make karma your bitch if you repent for your evil past.
  9. laurencefosgate
    I know Carrot Top personally, and he is definitely not a bully.(reference photo above)
    1. dbowles1017
      I didnt say carrot top was a bully
    2. laurencefosgate
      Then what is he doing here?
    3. dbowles1017
      Blessing this thread with his appearance
  10. laurencefosgate
    Carrot Top will make you his bitch.
  11. crpitt
    I think its a sad situation, some parents teach their children that school is just survival of the fittest, unfortunately not all kids can cope in those situations.

    It can seem all fun and giggles, then something like in the article happens or worse, like a kid hanging themselves because they cant cope with it anymore.
    1. Agit8r
      it is tragic. Also, what happens when these bullies/bullied become adults? They are either desensitized amoralists, or the damaged individuals who they victimized. It doesn't seem that either are fully equipped to deal with adult life
    2. crpitt
      It sets things in motion that can potentially be very damaging, of course not everyone will stay a bully, nor will the victim stay a victim, but in some cases it will stay a vicious cycle

      Why would any parent want that situation for their child or anyone else's?
    3. Agit8r
      some people want to perpetuate "the way it has always been." There is some sick comfort for them in the world not improving... lest something "moral" or "honorable" might be lost
    4. crpitt
      If some kid punched your child in the face, or continually harassed them in some way, what advice would you give them?
    5. dbowles1017
      Punch back
    6. Agit8r
      Well. They would need to confron the person and inform them that their actions won't be tollerated.

      If my kids were meeker creatures I would advise them to seek some higher authority to protect them.
  12. laurencefosgate
    That is indeed sad. People should reach out to the children around them and let them know they are loved so they don't feel lonely and worthless. I'm pretty sure I've instilled mine with enough self confidence not to be affected by bullies. He would be most likely to stop a bully picking on someone rather than be the object of bullying himself. We've talked about the issue a few times over the years.
  13. HollytheHousewife
    When it happens to my girls I'm gonna tell them to do just like I did and wisper in their ear"do u need a hug?"
    If that don't work then u can go ALL CRAZY WHITE GIRL on em and that usually puts the situation at rest.....
  14. danielpeci
    Why?

    Because humans have done everything to destroy the feminine principle throughout history, the male dominator model was the best way to control the masses and suppress the female factor in a world based on duality.Thats what creates the unbalance.
  15. laurencefosgate
    I would be surprised if any kid could get away with inflicting anything physical on my son. That just doesn't hapen here. But if someone were verbally abusing him, I'd coach him on what to say.
  16. HollytheHousewife
    Yup I can so go KARAZYYYYYY white girl...
    Tehehehehe
  17. HollytheHousewife
    Like oh my gaaaa

    Male or female has nothing to do with soap on a rope....good lord
  18. clioandme
    Horrible story. And pretty awful to make jokes about it here too.
    1. aspotofblog
      Yes, what happened to that guy is definitely not funny.
  19. HollytheHousewife
    Um well I can't see the op...bc is goin all kaarrraaazzzzyyyy on me
    What's it say
    1. Agit8r
      it says:

      Why are dominance-based societal models still embraced in this day and age. After all, children just copy the general behavior of parents/culture:

      www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-07-09-rape-bullying-school_N.htm

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