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Cake or Pie?
Posted by LynneaUrania • 1/09/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: food, preferences
It's getting past dinner time. Which would you prefer to have for dessert and why?
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In my book, cake is lust. Pie has character. I'll take a pie.
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I have to know how cake equates to lust. Is it the epitome of overindulgence? What about rich, New York cheesecake?-
You have asked an excellent question.
Partly that. Partly it's our approach to it. Has anyone heard of a cake in the face? Only if one dives her own face into a cake out of mindless ecstasy.
But when we hit someone in the face with a pie, it stands as an open challenge to one's character, and the response is one of one-upmanship.
So it seems to me that in pie we project our own personas. Even our emoticons always turn up as pie diagrams, never cake diagrams.
And, please...how many of us regard cheesecake as a true cake? Cheesecake is a class unto itself, don't you think?
I expect that in this thread one can think on some of our sweetest philosophies. Hey...it beats election politics.
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Neither.. I'd prefer Ice Cream-
How about an ice cream cake?
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Oooo, I want Ice Cream with Cake -
Pie. Yum!
Or tiramisu.
Actually, there's an awesome dessert that I love making in season:
Drench fresh cut strawberries in orange liqueur (Cointreau if you have it) and sugar. Let sit refrigerated for 24 hours.
Make delicious puffy filo dough squares that puff up really big (you can buy them frozen and pre-made, or you can make your own by layering filo dough with a thin spread of butter and baking) The squares should be large.
Cut dough square in half (like a bun) and sandwich a hefty helping of strawberries in between cuts, topped with fresh whipped cream, drizzle strawberry sauce and a few strawberries on top.
I'm hungry now...-
You temptress, you! No wonder you cover your face!
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That's to hide the cake.
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LOL!
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Pie - my friend makes a peach and pear pie that's delicious
My husband makes good apple and berry pies too.
lemon meringue, coconut cream, banana cream - MMMMMmmmmmmm pie!
P.S. Honorable mention must go to Jeunelle's cake that I have been fantasizing about for weeks now. -
I like Ice Cream on my pie
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If it's real homemade ice cream then I like it on fruit pies too sometimes.
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I like really sharp cheddar cheese with apple pie.
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Ah, timethief...you know how to hit the spot.
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So far the pie has it 4 to one, with ice cream being the reconciling agency.
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Pie because you can pretend that it has fruit in it, so it isn't completely unhealthy. Apple pie with cinnamon. Fresh blackberry pie is my favorite.-
Love the smell of cinnamon and nutmeg.....hmmmmm
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I can just see bodies floating through the air, with noses following the heavenly wafts of cinnamon and with dopey looking grins on their faces.
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I did enjoy a good rhubarb pie with raspberry sherbet. Boy, that DOES sound like a pretty vicious tease!
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YES OMG love rhubarb pie
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I have never had a rhubarb pie. Can you describe how it tastes? I seem to remember someone saying it reminded them of strawberry.
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Rhubarb is tart and needs sugar added. Sometimes people make strawberry/rhubarb pie. It you like tart berries, give rhubarb a try. The taste will vary according to how much sugar the cook puts into it. I don't like them too sweet.
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Love Peach Cobbler too.
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My grandmother made the most killer peach cobbler on Lake Tenkiller in Oklahoma. When word got out on the CB radio that she was making it, we would get a swarm of visitors. That peach cobbler never lasted very long.
And in nearby Cookson in the 60's, the Princess Drive In (I wonder if it's still there) was famous for its burgers with all the trimmings and an apple cobbler with ice cream. If grandmother wasn't making her peach variety, people swarmed at the Princess. -
Did somebody say peach cobbler....I am a sucker for peach cobbler.
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Is it okay for Dr. Jay to know that, Jeunelle?
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DrWHO?
Sorry I got my mind set on your peach cobbler
Grover better hurry up if he wants a slice. -
(Slops gooey chewy slices of cobbler into bowls for Jeunelle and Calais.)
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Definitely pie/cobbler. Peach pie a la mode.-
YES
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Where are all the cake people? Those who go nutty with German Chocolate or like a good old-fashioned lemon cake in a pan with lemony icing soaking into it?
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I know bc is weird...I think I just saw Grover in a few other threads so hopefully he'll stop by here for some pie.
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Pie...absolutely... -
With timethief's homemade ice cream and a cherry on top?
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German Chocolate is great. Mom used to make an orange bundt cake with icing drizzled on top (powdered sugar and lemon juice).
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I do like a good German chocolate cake. But in very small doses. Cake is just too heavy for me.
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Doesn't it depend on what KIND of cake or pie?
I mean, nothing beats a rhubarb pie...or a plain old gooey chocolate cake...especially if they're smeared all over Jeunelle....-
Now Grover, that wouldn't make it plain anymore.
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Oh Boy sexual chocolate, I have no idea why this came to mind
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoS8j9eNMZU -
is staying out of the way now.
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Sexual rhubarb works, too...
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You are romantic
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I've been called crusty, y'know...not sure if it was meant as a compliment, though....
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hehehe
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pie -
Banana custard by the gallon -
My grandmother used to make this awesome dessert whenever there was a family gathering at her house. I am not sure whether it's a pie, cobbler or something else. She called it "berry cobbler." She used her really deep pot, like the kind you boil pasta or corn on the cob in. She made about 10 layers of fresh boysenberries, topped with latticed dough, topped with pats of butter and sprinkles of sugar. She kept doing these layers until she was about 3 inches from the top then put it in the oven. She's put a huge scoop into a bowl while it was still hot and then we'd top it with ice cream. YUM!
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pie ftw! -
Chocolate cake or ginger cake - I like having my cake and eating it! -
Cheesecake or pie - I don't much like frosting. Or tiramisu, to steal an answer from Anok. I love that stuff. -
Pie...it has less letters. -
Apple Pie =) -
I always prefer pie! Love the crust most. -
Today I had baklava for dessert. (Not to be confused with balaclava).
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Pecan pie for me. -
Looks like pie is winning, even if the responses are mixed. Here's the weekend tally:
Pie: 12 votes
Cake: 3 votes
Cake with Ice Cream: 2 votes
Ice Cream: 2 votes
Cobbler: 3 and a half votes
Tiramisu: 1 vote
Baklava: 1 vote
Banana Custard: 1 vote
Chocolate Cake or Rhubarb Pie smeared on Jeunelle: 1 vote
Cheesecake: half a vote.
Looks like the pie is running away! -
My all time fave is Mississippi Mud Pie. Yummmmmmy!
www.marthastewart.com/portal/site/mslo/menuitem.fc77a0dbc44dd1611e3bf410b59...-
Of what does that consist? I'm sure it isn't Mississippi mud!
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Chocolate cookie crumb crust, delicious chocolate cream filing, topped with heavy whipped cream and pecans. It's so rich and wonderful.
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That would make a pig in the mud out of me any day!
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Baskin Robbins Ice Cream used to have a Mississippi Mud flavor! It was so dark, it was almost black and it was Goooooooooooooooood!
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my hubby bakes the bestest cakes!!! -
Pie please. Blueberry, coconut cream, peanut butter pie, Key lime pie...
Woo-hoo!!
PS- this is a much better question than "cake or death". -
Who's asking, "Cake or death?" Here we die happy.
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Yea, right. You want the cake all to yourself!
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I was going to post that but someone already beat me to it I guess. Damn cakes, and damn Portal for making that phrase so popular.
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well i like both but if i really have to choose one I'll choose cake that is so soft with lots of chocolates in it.
www.ghenessa.blogspot.com-
chocolates like M&M's you mean?
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I'm thinking she meant chocolate cake layered with chocolate creme, and chocolate ganache on the top.
Too much for me, though. Give me angel food with strawberries any day.
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Oooh, I want a pie cake.
No, a cake pie.
I just can't make up my mind.-
One time I tried my hand at making a pie pie...that is a pie baked in a pie, just to see what would happen. Believe me, don't try it. It will come out as hot dough pie instead.
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Pie all the way. Rhubarb if you got it -
Darn it. I must be really missing out not having ever eaten any rhubarb pie. I thought it must be a northern thing as I consider myself pretty in the know on southern cooking. But then I learn that one of the participants in this survey has fond memories of eating it in Arkansas. I plan to make my rounds of the cafes that have homemade pies next time we venture up that way to go camping and canoeing. I refuse to be the only southerner never to have enjoyed desserts made with rhubarb.
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In Oklahoma, everyone wanted to grow rhubarb for rhubarb pie. And the kids were told not to touch it because the leaves were known to contain a lot of oxalic acid that would irritate them to the touch.
We also had good rhubarb preserves for breakfast.
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i want cake. -
pie for me... -
cake. cheese cake with those cute little strawberries and chocolate filling sprinkled with chocolate dust.
pie is just creepy >_>-
I have never heard anyone get creeped out over a pie of all things! What happened? Did a fruit pie abuse you? I sense a story in this.
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weeellll, pie has many secrets. It's like a big crusty box with all the secret stuff inside....im vary wary of pie
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pie...especially with a flaky old fashioned crust.
I don't eat much of either here in South Africa: the cakes are always dry, the frosting gritty, and the pie crusts are thick ahd hard and won't even cut with a knife!! ICK! I'd make my own but I can't find lard or shortening here, either!-
Why are you living in South Africa?
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Because I married a South African and, after we did the math, we decided that we could have a much better quality of life here than in the US.
So far, so good...
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Do people use oil in South Africa? I never heard of lard used in cakes. I never used it. But the only time I ever had a store-bought cake was at my disastrous wedding.
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I use lard for pie crusts and tortillas. I use butter for cakes.
I am an old broad...we didn't have cooking oil when I learned how to make cakes and pies from my grandmothers. Wesson Oil (one of the first commercially available cooking oils) came along when I was in jr. hi. -
Lard is used in place of butter because of its shelf life and it doesn't need to be refrigerated. Many bakeries in the USA use lard instead of butter. Many people can taste the difference so Crisco came out with butter flavor.
Gritty frostings (and fudge) are usually because regular sugar was used rather than powdered sugar. -
Lard is what makes pastry flaky. In a pie crust, it has no particular flavour. If you use butter, the pastry doesn't flake properly. Same with oil.
I've tried making tortillas with butter...you end up with roti.
I use confectioner's sugar for icing (actually, it is called "icing sugar" here), but the sugar here is different. Confectioner's sugar is not powdered like in the States, and brown sugar is just bizarre: you can't pack it! Imagine white sugar that comes in 1mm cubes...recognizable, can-be-seen-with-the-naked-eye cubes...that has had molasses added to make it brown. The sugar, when poured out of the plastic packet (it comes in packets like rice), is basically coarsely granulated and the "brown" is added (and a sheen of molasses clings to the inside of the plastic bag). Literally, it cannot be packed in a cup for measuring, and it does not perform like brown sugar for cooking. I tried several times to make a pineapple upside down cake and the brown sugar would not caramelize! We have regular granulated sugar and superfine (we grow and process a lot of sugar cane in this country), so I have no explanation for the dry, crumbly quality of the cakes here. Doesn't matter if they are commercially baked or home baked...dry!
Cakes here are dry, frostings are gritty, and pie crusts are like pieces of wood. Baking in South Africa is very poor by American standards, not because of the skill level of the cooks, but because of the ingredients. I am not even tempted by the pastry shoppes...of which there are very few. But we have a CinnaBon here, and it's not bad! -
SV, have you tried crushing or grinding the sugar to a finer consistency, then adding corn starch to make powdered sugar for smooth icing? (That's all powdered sugar is, fine sugar and corn starch).
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Anok, your idea might work. I have a KitchenAid mixer with a food mill, so I can give it a whirl.
Any ideas what to do for brown sugar? I love pineapple upside down cake, which was a snap to make in the states, but a real dud here. Nothing that needs brown sugar works here, in fact!
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Honestly I am a cake person but with whipped icing not that sugary stuff they plop on cakes that sends people into jittery convulsions. -
Finally the cake people are coming out of the closet. Now we have some voices as the pies have been winning 4 to 1 before this.
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Can i have both? LOL...-
You sound like a Geminian like me.
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Pineapple cheese cake for me.. ummmmmmmmmm -
I would have to go for the classic hot apple pie served with vanilla ice cream, but cakewise I would plump for a cheese cake.-
I don't know that I'd include cheesecake in either category. I'd give it its own, well-deserved category. Pumpkin cheesecake, for instance, is in no way comparable to a pumpkin spice cake (often ruined with heave cream cheese frosting) but is more in line with pumpkin pie while remaining lighter than either, and tastier.
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What is it then if it's not cake????? Is it the hermaphrodite of the dessert world?
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It's made out of cheese, dear. It's in the dairy group.
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I can go for a cheesy hermaphrodite any day. They're fun.
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chocolate cake. yummy! -
Black forest cake -All time favourite-
Of what does it consist? I doubt that you take a cup of black forest to add to the ingredients.
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Black forest is a devil's food chocolate cake with cherry filling between the layers. Served unfrosted, it's actually very good. With three pounds of fudge masquerading as frosting on top, it's rich enough to kill you.
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You would die happy, though.
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Hmm cake probably, though it is a tough choice. -
The cake is a lie! So pie please. -
The cake is a fake and the pie is a lie.
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What's the lie? If I'm going to call my mother's next dessert a liar in front of all those relatives, I had better know what I'm accusing it of saying before I make a tom-fool out of myself!
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Grandma used to make delicious chocolate cakes. For the chocolate buttercreme frosting she'd add in one tablespoon of instant coffee, already disolved in some water. Grandpa's trick was to squirt some canned whipped cream on top. YUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i do not discriminate i love both....cheesecake is right up there though -
Neither since there is not benefit from eating them.-
Maybe not a benefit to you, Kiefers, but I think most of us would agree that there is a benefit at least in the form of a sensuous experience...especially to Dr. Jay, apparently.
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I'll take my cake and eat it too! -
Both. With a large knife and fork. Served simultaneously. -
When I was young and foolish I might have agreed with you, there was a day I would sit down and eat a whole apple pie.
On a special occasion I might have a piece.
But now I don’t equate food as a sensuous experience unless it was during sex LOL-
Some women I know consider sex and chocolate cake one and the same.
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whipped cream goes well in both arenas!
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Cheese cake yum, yum -
cake, yeah walnut cake my favorite!! -
Pie. For me, pie has more to it. More filling. Peanut butter or chocolate pie gets me excited. woohoo. -
Pie... -
as king of the unpublished, i've been known to jest about my peeps, "let them eat humble pie".
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Haven't you noticed how the tide turns between cake or pie when someone votes for cheesecake?
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Here's a cheesecake memory from me to you...
When I was in fourth grade, I'd rush home from the bus stop as fast as I could on Wednesday afternoons. "Dark Shadows" was on! Mom and I would watch while sharing 50/50 a strawberry Sara Lee cheesecake, sometimes still a little bit frozen. One of my happy memories of childhood!-
That's a great memory. And a fattening one at that.
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hmmm I like both. I tend to bake more pies though. I convince myself that they are healthier because of the fruit...my thighs don't agree.-
Ya gotta dance when you have them pies, dear!
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I am born and raised in TX and I have never had Rhubarb pie, either. However, I do love keylime pie and egg custard! Yum!!!Of course, frozen cherry pie ranks high on my list, too!
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Baking and serving chocolate devils food always wins me praise. I prefer a white angel food cake with strawberries and whip cream myself. However recently a famous Director shared with me that "a dutch apple pie is a way to his heart." Oh yes and rhubarb pie...love, love, love it!-
What's the difference between dutch apple and regular apple?
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The wooden shoes.
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You mean you use those shoes in the picture to serve up your homemade apple pie? I'm sure it has a lot of flavor.
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Heck, no! I'd never put my Cons in pie. I was just being a smartass. I think the real difference is the crumbly topping on the Dutch apple pie, rather than a second crust, but I don't really know. I should have said, "The windmills," or, "The tulips."
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Frozen key lime pie on a stick is my favorite. It's totally decadent. The only place you can get it is in Key West, Florida. There's a Key Lime Pie Shop that takes a piece of their homemade key lime pie, dips it in dark chocolate, inserts a stick, and then freezes it. It's great walking down the sidewalk in Key West, on the way to the beach, slurping on one of those things. -
Lynnea, I suspect BC collectively may all be running out for dessert because of this thread. It's almost subliminal.
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Lol. Happy heartburn!
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It's so dang cold this morning. Can I have a hot chocolate lava cake?
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Never heard of lava cake. Of what does it consist?
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