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Clicking got my Google account suspended. I should have never signed up for BC
Posted by Favfashionsites • 10/06/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: Google Adsense
Signing up for this BC was a mistake. People just come to your blog and click on your ads and now Google suspended my accounts. I'm so upset. What do I do now?
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well, first off I don't think you should blame BC. while it is certainly true that there are some clueless newbies who go around clicking each other's ads, you can hardly blame the site for that. There are also lots of experienced BC members who would be quick to tell you that clicking ads you are not interested in is a sure way to get suspended from Adsense. you're best option is probably to start over with brand new google accounts and a brand new blog and resolve not to make the same mistakes again. look on it as a learning experience.-
Yea I understand that but I never participated in that. I even told people to stop doing that. This is not my first google account so I tried everything to do things right this time. I really love my website and blog and it hurts me that even if I only make 2 dollars a day it is still mine. These strangers just came out of nowhere and took that away from me. I just wish BC had a way to block it or something. I am just so upset so I guess I am looking to point blame but I really wish I didn't participate in the discussion portion to attract these people. Thank you btw.
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well, what you might do then is not list your sites you earn advertising income from here on BC. you just have to list _A_ blog, any blog to be a member and participate in the discussions. if you don't list your income sites, clueless newbies can't do the click thing to you.
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Geesh .. if that doesn't take the cake .... (Clicking got my Google account suspended. I should have never signed up for BC)
Good for google! They are finally looking at the BC "Come click my google ads" group and threads and targetting bloggers who cheat honest people from their dollars.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A CLUELESS NEWBIE WHO DIDN'T KNOW BETTER.
What I don't understand though, is how in the world do you (as in people who do this) think Google will allow a site with little traffic have more than 100% clicks on impressions shown? It's beyond me.-
You can believe what you want but I did not want this. I am innocent.
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Good point!
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I can't get over why people have ads on low traffic sites in the first place. Stupid and greedy.-
"I can't get over why people have ads on low traffic sites in the first place. Stupid and greedy."
The most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and a lot of people are doing it now. I mean why not at least try to build some traffic first. Doesn't anyone do anything simply out of the love for it. So many people are clogging the arteries of the internet one post at a time for a few pennies a day and its just plain sad
Not to mention the way it effects search engine results. Shame on them ! -
I agree with both of you. Unless or until a site is receiving 1,000 to 1,500 hits each and every day monetizing it is premature.
And "yes" the blogoshpere has been inundated by free hosted no quality and low quality blogs, many of which are actually splogs containing stolen and/or plagiarized content. Many of the so-called bloggers, including e-beggars, scammers, and spammers lack language, grammar and spelling skills, and totally lack expertise in any niche.
Check the medical condition blogs, for example, those on "mesothelioma" and see how many are simply kept by bloggers who have no medical skills or training whatsoever, and who do not suffer from the disease and are not sharing personal accounts on the blogs in question. You will find that they are copy and pasting information from legitimate medical sites into posts and publishing them because that key word "mesothelioma" is a high paying key word.
The effect the plethora of no quality and low quality blogs and splogs have on search engine results is grievous. -
Well, as an advocate .. I will beg to differ that there are many legitimate reasons to include monetization in blogs right from the start .. including earning the trust and building relationship with google and other ad media companies. Also, there may be good reason to include it in themes just to lock up ideal space and opportunities for monetization in the future. Also, as you know, readers are generally blind to advertisements on blogs these days anyway - ads are for search engines to complement their search and research on the internet - and when they come to a site that has advertising they are not put off by it. They would be put off if they are subscribed to a blog claiming to have no ads then suddenly have ads in the future - when traffic is better and more subsribers exist.
As for the 1000-1500 hits per day, that is probably a good start for monetizing with CPM ads that are based on impressions shown, not clicks or action.
and PS
The effect the plethora of no quality and low quality blogs and splogs have on search engine results is grievous.
In case anybody else didn't understand it .. you are not alone! -
@petlvr
Well, as an advocate ...
I didn't know you were an advocate. Whom are you advocating on behalf of and/or what cause are you advocating for? -
I'm not looking to make money from my blogs, but I think the idea that there's a point at which it's "too soon" to put AdSense on a blog is just silly. If traffic is low, you probably won't make much (or any) money...but so what? No one has lost anything. And if ads are a part of the fabric of a blog as it builds readership, they don't come as a change/sudden ugly surprise when the blog reaches a certain level of traffic. -
I sought out 3 bloggers I know who make a decent income from blogging. They told me that one would not make a significant income from Google Adsense unless or until the site was getting the numbers I entered above. That being said, I do accept the points both petlvr and you have brought forward - no problem.
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I don't doubt that for a moment--what I question is the designation (not yours) of people who chose to go for the insignificant income anyway or just get the ads in place and grow the blog with them as part of the landscape as "stupid and greedy".
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I call it stupid and greedy because why does everything have to be monetized? Can't you just blog because you like it?
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@timethief
"Well, as an advocate ...
I didn't know you were an advocate. Whom are you advocating on behalf of and/or what cause are you advocating for?
I am an advocate against the majority of information given out that "sounds reasonable" that people don't bother to look at the other side of the coin. My cause is to foster brainstorming and by offering alternatives and possible solutions to unique problems and situations I always believe that saying to be true .. (you can think out of the box) -
Low traffic sites could take off anytime. Typically, your CTR frequently increases in time. It's NEVER too early.
I'm a fan of ads. Don't ever feel guilty for taking in a return on your investment.
Source Blogger
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@Favfashionsites
Ignorance of the law and terms of the contracts you enter into is no excuse.
Making an income from advertising is a business venture. Every business venture we enter into requires the exercise of due diligence and that includes careful reading the terms of the contracts we enter into, and abiding by them after we agree to the terms of those contracts.
Google Adsense policies are clearly stated as is their TOS so claiming ignorance does NOT wash with me.
www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=48182
www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms
BC also has a TOS www.blogcatalog.com/tos and community guidelines for forum posting found in the sticky post at the head of this forum titled Guidelines: Read Before Posting and those guidleines apply to this whole site. So once again claiming ignorance does not wash with me. www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/2
Signing up for this BC was a mistake. People just come to your blog and click on your ads and now Google suspended my accounts. I'm so upset. What do I do now?
IMO signing up for BC was NOT your first mistake, as you state you have had a previous Google Adsense account. Your mistake was breaching the terms of your Google Adsense contract and now you must pay the price which is being banned and blacklisted by Google. Your second mistake was breaching BC's TOS and policies as well.
Frankly, I approve of both the Google Adsense policy terms and the BC terms as well. I do not wish to be a member of a social network full of click fraud scammers, other scammers and spammers so you get ZERO sympathy from me. -
By using AdSense or any other PPC program without a protection tool for repetitive/fraudulent clicks like e.g. AdsenseClickLock - but there are many other the same tools - is an adventure, no matter the number of visits on your website/blog.
If you has many blogs in paid hosts, openx is very useful. I have not a connection with this program or his owner, but it offer for free indeed a lot of tools and settings for all your blogs from one place; extract: "creating zones and ad tags; entering a campaign; trafficking and targeting ads; pricing and packaging inventory; monetizing unsold inventory; monitoring performance; reporting"
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Really? This is scary. I know that people like to click on your GA and send shout messages asking to return the favor, but this is serious.
I understand, it was not your fault that they clicked your ads.
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I blamed BC because they don't protect their users from it. I am new to BC so I didn't even know why random people were doing this or how to stop them. Less than a week google shut me off. I am sure bc protects themselves from anyone doing harm to their site but what about protecting me and my site :(.
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I think there must be a real reason why Google deleted your account now...ummm...twice?-
Who/What got you deleted the first time?
Source Blogger
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How do they know if people are truly interested in what they click on? Do they time the length of it? I don't understand? Or were there suddenly many many clicks out of the blue, which didn't seem believable? How much money are we talking about?-
Click fraud is HUGE and Google has made an enormous investment in removing click fraud from Adsense. Google Adsense has several strategies for detecting click fraud patterns. Thousands of clicks have already been removed from the system due to some simple IP checks, and another strategy is use of software they created and patented for detecting click fraud. Obviously, they are not going to reveal exactly how they detect it, because it would just mean that the greedy cheaters would develop sleazy ways of trying to game the system.
Click fraud is a subset of invalid clicks that are generated with malicious or fraudulent intent -- in other words, clicks that are intended to drive up advertiser cost or publisher revenue artificially. Sources for these clicks include, but are not limited to:
# A publisher clicking on his own ads, or encouraging clicks on his ads
# Users or family members clicking to support the site / publisher
# Third-party programs with user incentives, such as paid-to-click services and click-exchanges
# Automated clicking tools, robots, or other deceptive software
The same principles above apply to ad impressions and conversions as well. Some sources of invalid impressions include, but are not limited to:
# Excessive page refreshes, generated either manually or automatically
# Third-party programs with user incentives, such as paid-to-surf or auto-surf programs
# Third-party programs for purchasing fixed amounts of traffic, e.g. "$10 for 1,000 page views"
adsense.blogspot.com/2008/08/defining-invalid-clicks-and-click-fraud.html
This post contains 15 Common Mistakes that Violate Google Adsense TOS and Top 10 AdSense Don’ts
Adsense click fraud is a fools’ game
onecoolsite.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/adsense-click-fraud-is-a-fools-game/
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I dont even use adsense for my blog. I heard that Adsense on blogs tends to get lower pay per click than websites any way. Is that true? anyways you can take a look at my blog if you want but i think adsense would ruin it. -
BlogCatalog removes about 5-15 of these ad clicking spammers a week, but there seems to be no shortage of them. If you receive a shout from someone asking you to click ads or telling you they clicked your ads, please report them to webmaster[at]blogcatalog[dot]com. we will permanently remove them, as we have no tolerance for this kinds of fraudulent activity.-
I just got one in my shoutbox this morning. Something to the effect of, "I went to your blog and clicked your ads, please do the same for me." I didn't, because I didn't like it....but I figured people do this sort of thing. Thanks Time Thief for an informative article.
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You're welcome.
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THANK YOU THIS IS THE BEST RESPONSE TO THIS DISCUSSION YET. Smart. This is the advice I needed. Even though it's too late for me. I didn't know bc is trying to solve this problem. Thank you.
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So what's the point of the shoutbox "spam" button?
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Good question. That's the one I have been using. I haven't been emailing.
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@thegoodknife
OK, so I just sent a couple e-mails regarding my ad-clickers then, since hitting the spam button has had no obvious effect on their membership status, I just checked. Judging by their shoutbox, some of them are still active clickers (or simply spammers, since they even leave shoutbox messages at blogs without ads...).
Which begs the question: Why do I need a Spam button in my shoutbox if it is not for reporting spammers? Does the Block button not suffice for deleting them from my shoutbox? What does the Spam button do that Block doesn't do?
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Because I was bored with nothing better to do (that and I'm just a bitch), I did some snooping. Looks like people have been leaving you comments saying they clicked your ads. If you follow the shout to shout, you can see that you responded with "Thanks. I returned the favor."
Are there dear Watson is why you are suspended.-
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Okay call me stupid but I returned the favor of going to there blog and leaving a comment and befriending them. So miss detective that is what that is. Why do you think America has trails because everything is not what it seems. I also sent them a message cursing them out which I am sure they didn't take that well.
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Friend, avoid blaming BC for this kind of Shit users running around this Blogosphere. Whatever it is, The account has gone!
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If what Suzie says is true, then you committed click fraud and you were asking to get suspended by Google. Hope you learned your lesson.-
it's not sweetie
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My friends, I thought as most of you know already... if a simple free counter program can show you some details about visits, such as IP, the time of, referral link, country, town, network provider and more; how "hard" would be for Google to detect some visits from the same group/social network program or something like that, or other things like visits from the same IP`s day after day... do not speak about repeated clicks in the same day...
I was admin of an unit for 6 months, there was more detailed reports (there the click on ads was accepted just for several countries), so I know well what I wrote; any type of click fraud it`s very simple to detect.
...And one more thing: AdSense don`t send notice, when you make a mistake, their first message begins with "your AdSense account was suspended because..." and already it`s too late... If you read the AdSense Terms, it`s your job to protect the ads on your website/blog for any type of fraud. -
Google Adsense should recommend monetization on sites that have lots of traffic then. They should prevent sites from putting ads on sites with low volume...but that would go against FREE ENTERPRISE, wouldn't it? -
I've gotten a few people asking me to click on their ads in my shoutbox. I didn't report them, but I told them they were committing click fraud and they should change their ways...
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IMHO if we do not follow the instructions that Admin has given us then this online community will be filled with spammers and scammers and click fraud creeps.
What part of what thegooknife (BC's lead programmer's words) were not understood?
He said: "BlogCatalog removes about 5-15 of these ad clicking spammers a week, but there seems to be no shortage of them. If you receive a shout from someone asking you to click ads or telling you they clicked your ads, please report them to webmaster[at]blogcatalog[dot]com. we will permanently remove them, as we have no tolerance for this kinds of fraudulent activity."
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But what about the spam button? Do we have to send an email to the webmaster as well as click the spam button?
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Good question. I use the "spam" button on the shouts. I do not email. However, once Admin clarifies which of the two is the preferred methods I will adopt it.
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I've been getting a recent wave of shoutbox spam claiming to have gone to my blogs and clicked my ads (as if I even had any!) and asking for reciprocation. Pretty annoying.
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Sorry to hear you got suspended by Google. However, I notice again and again people who invite others in blogcatalog to click on their links. I am extremely careful about it and often tell my so called blog catalog friends to refrain from doing so. Blog Catalog must be a portal which is known to Google for many reasons. Believe me, that Google is aware of what some are trying to achieve with their blogs. I am absolutely sure about it. I would never click on a Google adsense there, unless it makes me very curious. Some banners also don't show right away that they are Google adsense. However, if my curiosity is big I might just click on one, but certainly not 2, once I know where the banner was from.
All I can hope is that the publisher will not be punished like you were. -
Sorry to hear you getting banned. Google should send you a email saying if you want to protest it you can.
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Google can be actually pretty sympathetic if you can prove your site had been compromised.
Either you don't understand the appeal process or you have something to hide.
Well, look at the bright side, at least you can start looking at alternatives to Google who are not so restrictive.
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Thank you though. I have been meaning to write a "banned from Google" post.
Inspirations comes from the strangest places.
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Despite repeated questions on "what's the spam button for?" throughout this discussion, I see no response from any BC staffers.
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