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Clinton, Obama, McCain, Who do Think Can be The Best USA President?
Posted by Jturnmerich • 3/06/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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Senator Barack Obama has dedicated his life to public service as a community organizer, civil rights attorney, and leader in the Illinois state Senate. Obama now continues his fight for working families following his recent election to the United States Senate.
Obama is especially proud of being a husband and father of two daughters, Malia, 9 and Sasha, 6. Obama and his wife, Michelle, married in 1992 and live on Chicago’s South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ.
Barack Obama was born on August 4th, 1961, in Hawaii to Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham. Obama graduated from Columbia University in 1983, and moved to Chicago in 1985 to work for a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment. In 1991, Obama graduated from Harvard Law School where he was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton was elected to the United States Senate by the people of New York on November 7, 2000, after years of public service on behalf of children and families. She is the first First Lady of the United States elected to public office and the first woman elected independently statewide in New York State. A strong advocate for New York, Senator Clinton works with communities throughout the state to strengthen the economy and expand opportunity. The Senator supports a return to fiscal responsibility because she knows that wise national economic policies are essential to protect America's future.
Senator Clinton was born in Chicago, Illinois, on October 26, 1947. She is the daughter of Dorothy Rodham and the late Hugh Rodham. Her father was a small businessman and her mother a homemaker. She is a graduate of Wellesley College and Yale Law School. She is married to former President William Jefferson Clinton. They have one daughter, Chelsea.
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U.S. Senator John McCain has a long career of public service. After graduating from the Naval Academy in 1958, John McCain began his career as a Naval aviator. In 1982, he was elected to Congress representing what was then the first congressional district of Arizona. In 1986, he was elected to the United States Senate to take the place of Arizona's great Senator Barry Goldwater. Senator McCain is currently the senior senator from Arizona.
In 2000, Senator McCain ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for President of the United States. He is currently the Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services. He also serves on the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, and the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs. Senator McCain has seven children and four grandchildren. He and his wife, Cindy, reside in Phoenix.
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Clinton, Obama, McCain, Who do You Think Can be The Best USA President?
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Obama... once people get a taste of 4 years of his tax and spend policies, it will usher in a 20 year era of true conservatism. McCain screwed up with McCain-Feingold and others... either way, it's going to be a challenging 4 years. -
When it comes to Experience and knowledge, Hillary Clinton has the Edge over Obama, But I felt OBAMA can be the best person to lead people of the United States of America.
McCain is good enough but I don't risk the most important position for AGE issue.-
Funny how mention it as an AGE issue... he has more EXPERIENCE than Hillary!
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obama -
Any Clinton folks around? speak up bro...
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I'm interested to know why Clinton has an edge over Obama in experience and knowledge? I don't agree..I think it's campaign spin and nothing more. -
Well, its just a media political analysts repeatedly stated that when it comes to senate tenure, Obama is Freshman and Clinton is Senior. That I guess one thing why most Clinton Campaigner figure out whose an edge experienced over Obama.
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Clinton is in her second term of the only elected office she's ever held. Obama has had 11 years combined in the Illinois State and US Senate. That sounds like more experience to me.
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It usually means that people are talking about her time as the First Lady, with regards to foreign policy, seeing how the Whitehouse works from the inside etc etc etc.
Of course, because she wasn't president, and didn't actually have much if any say in what was going on, I would exclude that "experience" or at the very least, label it for what it is, second hand. -
Thank you Anok. That's how I see it. She was the wife to the person who did the job. I am the wife of a man who writes computer software for a large company. He comes home every day, tells me about his day, what he did, sometimes explains coding to me. I even know my way around his office and everyone that works there. Can I write a complicated program? Can I go do his job if he is home sick? Nope.
If she claims this as real experience she will have to say that Bill answered to her during his years at the White House and he was nothing more than a cardboard front for her....and I don't think that was the case.
To her credit, I think she was given more responsibility than any First Lady before or after. I can remember remarks that we had a co-Clinton presidency. But I don't think that boaded well for either Clinton at the time. -
I can't remember where I read this, but Senator Clinton supposedly also didn't have the kind of security clearance she would have needed to be in on all kinds of issues (or at least details) in the White House during her husband's presidency. I'm sure she got some pretty valuable experience though. -
Stoneman, I'm pretty sure you are absolutely correct. There is no way, or any reason she would have had the clearance.
Lisa - Yup, I agree with your example too - with one small difference though - she has been involved in politics (of varying degrees) for a very long time so really it would be like saying you've been involved in the computer world for a very long time, but claiming that you had the experience of an IT engineer with avery specific high profile job
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good point lisamcglaun
Hilliary's goose is cooked People should talk about Obama and Mcain
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Another republican presidency? I hope not, even if I enjoy McCain. I'll take either of the other two, though I favor Obama.
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I'm not saying she didn't ains some valuable knowledge and I'm sure she was in on every meeting she could attend. But it gets under my skin everytime I hear her say. "With my 35 years of experience." That's every year since college. If she wants it that way then Obama is only hindered by the fact he's younger than her.
I heard her say the other day that it's 35 years of life experience. You can't have it both ways. Count yours and dismiss the same experience of your opponent. Not Fair.-
"That's every year since college."
It does sound a little like someone entering the job market who needs to pad his resume.
'I heard her say the other day that it's 35 years of life experience. You can't have it both ways." Good point.
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Padding and spinning is what I see in Clinton. I'll vote for her if I have to against McCain but I'll do it with a grimmace.
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I'd vote for her too, though I wouldn't be grimacing. A good candidate needs a healthy Machiavellian streak. It's the one thing I haven't seen enough of in Obama yet, though with over a decade of service, I'm assuming he's got it in him somewhere.
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Well sounded informative views from you Lisamcglaun, I can see some good insight from you. Being a 1st lady as Clinton counted to her period of political experience really gives a wrong credit to count.
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Then Laura Bush should run also?
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Yasitha2, Thanks for stopping by. kindly further why you choose Obama.
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I think McCain has an advantage just by the relative decisiveness of the Republican Party. Certainly the democratic primary campaigns are political capital for the McCain camp. Time can change many things – we’ll see what happens.-
This is such a depressing topic!
I hate the idea of Hilary going in to the white house.
It's been bush, clinton, bush for the past...IDK how many years.
Are we really going to repeat the cycle?
I hate the idea of McCain, just because he's another Bush waiting to happen.
Obama seems like the best bet, but you know he's going to pick Hilary as Vice.
I can't believe I'm even contributing to this conversation.
I told myself I wouldn't do this.
This defeats the whole purpose of my last blog - lol
So much for the intelligent blogger.
Depressing?
Very much so! -
Come on Duke – It’s not all bad.
We’re still Americans one way or the other. I have my preference but I’ll ultimately be OK with any of them. -
Also Duke..I don't think it's really fair to McCain to say he will be another Bush. They've locked horns on many issues. He's not in Bush's pocket as far as I can tell. I respect the man and know if we end up with him he will do the best he can but he will have so much pressure from the far right to conform..I don't know how he will handle it.
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I can respect McCain for his alternate view points, but ultimately, Bush and McCain are from the same camp. The same conservative right mentality. No matter how opinionated he is on certain issues, he'll be pressured in to stroking the social elite.
Maybe he won't be exactly like Bush, but there is a great deal of potential there. -
McCain has been cozying up with Bush now that he's got the nomination though. He isn't exactly the same - but McCain is Bush's boy and that's enough for me to NOT want the man in office.
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I know for a fact that because Bush gave McCain his nomination he won't win.
Unless the powers that be are stronger than I think.
Bush's nomination is a death sentence to McCain as far as the election goes.
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Duke,
I heard a conversation on NPR (National Public Radio) yesterday that stated that Clinton has opened the door to ask Obama to be VP if she wins but he has not done he same with her. I think he will pick someone different and I don't think she will settle for being second on the ticket but I could be wrong.
I'm a little miffed at her lately for some of the comments she's made and the tactics of her campaign so I'll wait and see how this all plays out. My state has already voted in the primary..not much I can do now but wait.-
That’s interesting – I really don’t think they pair up very well either.
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She's evil!
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You got to love Lisa for her diplomacy she is probably the biggest Obama supporter here.
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It would be nice if Obama picked someone other than Hilary as VP, but not likely.
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Kevin...big hug. I'm sure with our history you know what that hug is for, my friend.
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When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, he was running on the platform "two for the price of one". As even the most stupid person can see, he had already hinting a co-presidency even then. And that was exactly what we got in the eight years of the Clinton Administration. Sen Clinton was by no means an ordinary First Lady; even her most fierce critics would probably agree.
Well, how about compare their performances in the debates? Hillary beats Obama in every single debate especially in term of substance. Of course, Sen Obama did a good job in hiring former Clinton officials to help crafting important policies. Devon Patrick, an adviser to Obama, is a former Clinton official. Coincidentally, we recently have a "just words" controversy.
Let compare their records in the congress. Hillary has only served less than 2 terms in the Senate, but she is one of the most powerful members of congress (just look at all the earmarks she has gotten for her state). Even if she loses this election, she would be a shoe-in for the powerful Senate majority seat. I don't think we can say the same for Sen Obama.-
She might be an effective spit fire, but that doesn't mean that's a good thing.
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I'm not sure that I would count raking in earmarks for your state as a positive attibute.
Neo, I just can't get on the Clinton bandwagon. I'm sorry. I agree with you about her power in the senate but I don't think the qualities that make her "powerful" are the ones I'm looking for in a president.
And to be fair..she walked into the Senate with a ton of clout behind her and flurry of publicity. Most junior senators are not afforded the same opportunity. They have to work their way up the ranks. -
Duke,
Explain why she scares you, please? I'd like to know. -
IDK
Ever get that feeling about someone?
You don’t know what it is about them - They just make you cringe.
Maybe it's her power hungry attitude - Maybe it's the fact that when she's on camera she's as nice as my grandma - Maybe it's the fact that she says all the right things - Or maybe it's when she makes a mistake it's water off a duck's back, but when someone else makes a mistake like Obama, it's the wrath of hell.
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Aside from policy and track records to help back up my ick factor about her...yeah Duke, I get that too. She seems too artificial. Or...something....as if she's the kind of person who kisses babies all day long and then goes home and kicks her dog...(or husband)
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Yah - reminds me of the Stepford Wives.
Artificial nicey niceness! lol
She probably eats babies. -
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I'll probably wake up in a ditch somewhere with a knife in the heart.
You never know...
She could be every where!!!
Ok - I'll stop now!
I fell the darkness closing in. -
Duke,
I get that feeling about her too. I usually trust my gut reactions when I get them. I had a strong dislike of both Bushes. I couldn't tell you why at the time...now I know. I got a good feeling about Obama right away that's why I wanted so badly to see him in person so I could get see if my feelings about him were right.
I did and they were so he's got my vote for sure. -
I guess you could call it intuition - lol
Obama seems like an overall good guy.
It's these power hungry elitists that win all the time because they buy votes.
Maybe not literally, but they are definitely persuasive enough.
It’s their networking and the foot soldiers that get the word out.
They have legions of people working for them. -
Not to mention all the special interest groups that fight for the candidate who will most likely "support" them.
That's where the ear marks make a huge difference in the elections.
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I've just read the news, a Harvard Professor and Obama's Political Advisor called Hillary Clinton "She's a Monster too!"..... hmmm.. whose the other one?
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They apologized – at least the Obama advisor did.
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Didn't just apologise, also resigned from the Obama camp. -
Obama has put himself into an interesting box. He can't go negative because of his over all message but Clinton can and will beat up on him through her underlings all day long and that's okay. And if he does go negative she will beat on him for that alone.
As much as I support him, I'm not sure how he will counter the negativity. I hope he's reading Ghandi for pointers is all I can say. It's tough to be the only one standing out for a different way, especially when all the other players are still using the old playbook. -
Well they should emphasize his integrity and good will and market the message “we don’t play that game” – if he is lucky and clean enough the media will eat Hillary up. – Hypothetically speaking
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I'm telling you!
She's a monster! lol
Gandhi was assassinated yah know.
Obama has enough integrity to stick this one out.
Lets just hope he doesn't slip.
Hilary will be on that one Hyena on a sick baby water buffalo.
LOL ROTFL
Hmmm...maybe Hilary is a vampire...
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What a toss up! -
If Traditional Politician crisis does still exist in US, for sure McCain and Clinton will never make it and OBAMA will win the election.
All 3 of them are qualified.. I just want Obama to win cause I want my soldier cousin to come home from 8 months stay in Iraq.
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Well, I think you have that assurance with Obama. If he goes back on it I will be gravely disappointed and flood the White House email box with letters saying so.
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Stoneman -
None of the above. Time for an Independent candidate to show up and steal the show. The two major parties need a good wake-up call. We need a leader we can trust and have confidence in. That rules out Obama and Clinton.-
ssetd,
What are you looking for in this independent candidate that will convince you that you can trust him/her?
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One thing that's really enlightening: go to each candidate's senate page and look at their votes. We get an impression from media, speeches & debates. But in my opinion, the truth is in how that candidate has voted.
That really tells you a lot. And I agree with ssetd: "The two major parties need a good wake-up call."-
The problem with voting records, is it is easy to take votes out of context. We can't see from these lists what kinds of deals have been made over time. (Sometimes a person will vote one way on one bill in return for a vote from someone else on another bill.)
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I have a foolproof way to be secure in your candidate choice: Who is your favorite Golden Girl?
The four remaining contenders have some startling similarities with their GG counterparts.
thisblogiseggsalady.blogspot.com/2008/03/travel-down-road-and-back-again-wo...
Blanche Deveraux in '08! -
resfectfully none of the above.... lol
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Well, you know what they say about Clinton... she ran the country for 8 years, Bill was just the spokesperson.
But if I had to pick, I think I might lean towards Obama...-
I assume this is a joke? Well I wanted to, but someone below actually agreed with this statement, so now I'm confused.
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McCain has the most experience but I'm not up to putting another Republican in office this go round.
Clinton has the second most experience in politics - I agree with whojaybe who said "Hillary ran the country for 8 years and Bill was just the spokesperson."
Obama is young and obviously has great people surrounding him in his bid for president, I think he would be a fine president.
My biggest concern is that the world is focused on the Mid East right now and a woman as president of the US just wouldn't cut it with Muslims, it's one of the reasons why Rice is not move involved.-
Like I said, McCain is dead in the water because he has Bush's nomination.
In my opinion that just made his chances of winning slim to none.
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MamafloSATX, you seems to have a good point.
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A young black man has more promise in helping to develop peace and cooperation with the Middle East.
If our country is ready to elect either a woman or a black man as president then world peace is possible!-
LOL!!!
Sorry...
That just slipped out.
We'll never have world peace with big government politics.
I'm sorry - just call me a realist.
We'll have peace when the majority of the world can agree on most everything and stop being so divided on every little topic known to man.
Will that ever happen?
I have no clue.
I hope so!
Just because I'm a realist doesn't mean I can't hope for something better.
World PEACE for everyone!
World Peace is a noble notion.
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Obama. -
whose for McCain?
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From what I've seen, only rich people and older people who don't have kids are for McCain. Since we're all on BlogCatalog, we're probably not rich and the older members usually have kids.
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Even though I'm not American, McCain would be fail for US. If Bush is endorsing him then nothing good can come of him, lol.
Obama.-
Bush doesn’t have a choice he has to endorse McCain.
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He shouldn't of endorsed McCain if he actually wanted him to win.
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Does McGain have low patience? he can easily get mad!.. that 3rd microphone doesnt work, that Camera man accidentally tapped his head. and those countless rude questions interviewed.
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I actually support McCain but I am a registered democrat and will vote democrats in the house and senate.
The reason McCain will win is because of the radicalism and absolutism that exist in the Democratic Party. I had seen this same kind of high heeled belief that Kerry would take it. The noise drives quite herds of conservatives to the polls.
One thing that hurts the democrats is the absolutism within the party – I see so many democrats acting like they’ll damn near renounce their citizenship because anybody but there preference is evil. Lots of noise doesn’t equal the popular consensus.
I’ll wait till we’re a little closer and then I’ll offer a hard dollar wager. But hey whoever wins – I’ll still be American and in my opinion all three of them have something to offer.-
LOL
You actually think McCain has a chance?
ROTFL
I know what you mean about noise, but since Bush has been in, the Republican base has shrunk by (I think) a third or more. There are so many Reps going to Independents, it's crazy.
If you think there will be another Rep Pres this go around...wow!
If Hilary doesn't win this one, it will definitely be Obama.
Either way, Hilary is going to be in the White House. If not the Pres, the Vice Pres. -
Duke
I’ll consider a hard money wager when we are a month from the vote. Remind me – I'll consider offering three hundred to two hundred.
The opposition was just as sure with John Kerry. -
I think the dynamics of this race vs the race between Bush and Kerry are a little different.
Kerry should of won any ways, but they fixed the votes.
Maybe you're right, but if he does win (in order to do, they would have to fix the votes again), we're screwed.
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I'm from the other side of the ocean - so which of them will look after the environment, supply free health care, be strong on violent crime, ban firearms, support the unemployed, help the pensioners, care for the infirm, improve the land that you live in? I think I would ask all of those questions before placing my vote. You are, after all, not only voting for your own beliefs you are voting for the kind of place you would like your children and grandchildren to grow up in. Which of your candidates will make it a better place for everyone to live?-
every 'sane' american has a right to own firearms. It is a constitutional right.
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It's called an amendment my good buddy.
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I never understand why foreigners are so concerned about our gun laws. Anyways my point is that it will take a lot more than a president to change that. I really don’t understand this one domestically. I enjoy going to the range and shooting my pistol – its sport. At home it’s in a firebox under lock and key though it does heighten my sense of security.
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OBAMA HUSSEIN!!!
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What does his middle name have to with anything?
What is this...more middle name fear-mongering?
Maybe he should cry like Hillary instead?
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The candidate with the most experience is McCain but I'm voting for Obama. I think Obama has the lead especially with young voters because of his age, the young voters view Hillary as their mother, McCain as their father and Obama as a brother.
Experience is relative for the candidate if he/she has a strong/knowledgeable cabinet.
This is an exciting time in US History and every American needs to jump on the bandwagon, get involved, and vote. -
Always Bet on Black! OBAMA!
Here are my posts sharing my political views:
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When is John McCain's birthday? Since you pointed out the other candidate's birth dates. -
I vote for my woman of choice, Hillary Clinton!
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When it comes down to this Presidential Race, I think you have to go with integrity. Clinton has proven time-and time again, she is a lier. Obama is a closet racist. You can not know someone for 20 + years, call them your spiritual leader, have them perform your marriage, baptized your kids,,, and not know the man's position. Obama lied about his not knowing the true Rev Wright and by not separating himself from this man, he is accepting that position. And finally, all because McCain has some conservative positions, he is not another Bush. I would much rather know up front what I getting for President, then to "Hope" all the lies of the other two come true. I'm for McCain.-
How old is McCain?.. I can't remember his age... and is not another Bush? if not, why should he still wanted to hold our soldiers in MidEast? as Micheal Moore said, If our fellow soldier recruited where came from poor family of this country, and not even a single son of this poor congressman did joined the war. rather go to new orleans and give this flyers where each poor fellow white and black americans have no choice but to take the challenge.
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Jturnmerich,
I’m not sure what his age has to do with this. I suppose you would elect someone based on his or her age and not qualifications.
As for keeping soldiers in the Middle East, you really have no understanding of the situation. McCain is smart enough to know we cannot just pack-up all of our soldiers and come home. He also has the integrity to say that to the American public. You see Obama and Clinton know this also, they are just lying when they say they will begin an immediate withdrawal of troops if they are elected.
The vacuum that will be created would cause even greater problems there and we would probably have to go back in to finish what we didn’t finish. That would be an even greater cost in lives, time and money. And please spare me the speech about we should have never gone in to Iraq. The fact is we are there now and we need to do the right thing. That is not packing our bags a leaving without finishing the job.
Using Michael Moore as reference about military recruitment lends less creditability to your argument than if you would have just left him out of your point. Here is a clue… Our military is voluntary… That means if I’m a congressman’s son or daughter, I probably will have a whatever I want in life. I doubt I will want for a good job and I know my parents will pay for my school. However, you may want to recheck your facts. There are children of congress in the military today. They “volunteered” just like the poor kids. Those poor kids you mentioned in New Orleans saw an “Opportunity” to have a better life. Joining the military was better than what they we’re facing on the streets of New Orleans. How else would that kid receive job training, skills and 100% college tuition in order to make a better life.
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What a sorry listing of candidates we have to consider. Pathetic. We can pick between Hillary or McCain, both anger management (head) cases. Or, we can choose pie in the sky, Obama.
In all three cases all we have to choose from are Socialists. No thanks, I will never vote for a socialist of any stripe. That means this Fall will be the first election in the past 60 years I will have not cast a vote for president. I'm sitting this one out.-
Care to explain your definition of "socialists"?
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Whoa old timer – McCain’s my man, don’t make me take my jacket off! Ok you might say the others lean toward a socialist government but leave my man alone!
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I can't do it this time around. I must vote. Republicans have been in office too long. We need change.
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I feel that there is definitely a need for A Democratic President. I consider myself a conservative Democrat, but it is clear that our country needs change. I personally like the ideas Barack Obama has set forth but I would be happy with either him or Clinton. Read my blog for more of my political views.
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I have no contest of Clinton when it comes to experience. being a formerfirst lady and a senator. but i doubt to her capacity to handle Mideast Crisis. McCain is a well grown political man that is seasoned by his non popular legacy. but i will not trade or barter this crucial decade in quest of CHANGE! From healthcare to War in Terror. Obama cannot even be a perfect president if be given a chance. but I'm always go for someone who stand in his words, take responsibility, and do transparent governance. Regardless of his inexperience, but with Integrity to change the governance and determine to remove the division of Dem. and Rep. political business, I will risk my Vote to him.
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Of those three, I'd like to see Alan Keyes in the White House.
He might not be the best president American has ever had: but I think his administration would be an exciting one. -
Our choice is to vote or not vote. McCain is in his early 70's. I think 71-72. He's been through a lot and seen a lot. I don't want another Republican President. The country needs too much in its current state of affairs. Right now, the job to help the USA and the World would best come from a Democrat. We need more balance. There's none now. The Republicans have been in control too long. I usually go with the "best" for the job when election time comes around. Right now, my thoughts are the Democrats need to join forces, money and energy. They should not be fighting between themselves. The Democrats would have a much stronger platform if they came together. Based on history and what everyone's said above me on this post, I'd like to see Hillary as the President and Obama as the VP. It would create good balance and help the Democrats unite the Party. It would give Obama an opportunity to prove himself and prepare to be the next President. Hillary would have an opportunity to fulfill her life's ambition. She's prepared herself for this job for a very long time. Obama never admitted he was running or wanted to run for President until it happened. If the Democrats play their cards right, they could create a 16 year Democratic run in Office. Wouldn't that make the World a better place to live? I think it would. When the Clintons were in office the world was a friendlier place. Americans were perceived as good. Bush destroyed that and the world is a mess. The economy is very bad, and our participation in the war has produced little good compared to the price we've paid. My greatest fear... I'm afraid if the Democrats don't join forces the Republicans may win again. And, now there's rumors of Rice joining McCain as his running mate as VP. Can't predict the future, but the USA needs some relief.... the only good thing about the election so far is knowing Bush finished his work and can move on to something else.
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obama will create a race war in the states and will probably be killed during the first year of his mandate. (some right winger will NEVER accept a black president)
hillary..well just because she's hillary is enough i supposed and she want to modify NAFTA.
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I've heard your perspective from others. It's scarey to say the least. We need Obama to be a part of the big picture. I think you just convinced me to go with HILLARY! Thank you!
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One more thought....
1. please put age, sex and race aside.
2. define the needs of the Country.
3. determine who could best address the needs.
4. vote for the person who can do the job.
Has anyone made a list of the USA's needs? deficiencies? problems?
Have the candidates stated "how" they would address these needs?
The campaign still has a ways to go. It's going to get more intense as time passes. Maybe this is a new discussion topic, and I don't know how to start one. : ) -
Where can we find a good samaritan then? who will never cares about color of skin.
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