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Dagger or Sword In The Heart?
Posted by AchEmpire • 10/22/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: love
If your only love disappeared with a dagger in the heart, and the note on the heart said:
"Love Me For Eternity & Come With Me"
Which one would you choose to go with them dagger or sword?
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No more Shakespeare for you!-
crpitt - Hi what makes you think I'm speaking that?
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Juliet:
"O happy dagger!
This is thy sheath; there rust, and let me die."
Romeo and Juliet (V, iii, 169-170) -
crpitt - So you are choosing a dagger?
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No
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crpitt - So if you came home and your husband or the one you "Truly Love" was laying by the forest in the backyard with a dagger in the heart and a note saying "I Love You Always & Come With Me" you wouldn't follow because you're codependent of him?
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Firstly I would wonder where the hell that forest came from, then where the hell a husband came from and then call police.
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crpitt - I don't think you would call the police. You would be first going through a traumatic experience from the shock of the sword in the heart.
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I would call the police.
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Ach, any sane person who found a dead body behind the house would call the police...husband, stranger, friend, enemy...whatever. You find dead folks, you notify the authorities.
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Wow. Really?-
MissSuzie - No it's wow, but remember you said you like "Charles Manson" kind men so this doesn't apply to you.
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I would never kill myself to be with a dead person so no, this definitely isn't my cup of tea.
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MissSuzie - But you asid over in the other post "Would You Kill For Love" you liked "Charles Manson" who is a serial killer. Don't you think if you date or marry a man like him it is only a matter of time before his behavior starts rubbing off on you?
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I kill all the men I date, so no.
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MissSuzie - But didn't you say over in the other post "Would You Kill For Love" you didn't engage in that kind of behavior?
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If you remember correctly, I said I'd "off" him first. Pay attention.
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MissSuzie - So your "off" is meaning in terms of what?
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You know: kill him, poison him, or hang him by his balls in a tree until the vultures eat him alive.
You know, that kind of thing.
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I would call the cops and declare the place a crime scene because clearly my husband was murdered by some melodramatic nutjob who tried to make it look like a suicide.-
ThriftShopRomantic - But how could you do all that if you were codependent to him? & Where are you getting melodramatic nutjob from? This post aimes nowhere near that direction.
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Thrifty are you codependant again? we need to get you into a program. -
Apparently I'm SUPPOSED to be codependent and commit suicide in a tragic way with the pointy-pointy thing of my choice, only I keep buggering it up by thinking life's kinda nifty, and I'd like to keep enjoying it.
"I don't want to go in the cart... I'm not dead yet! I'm not!" --Monty Python and the Holy Grail -
ThriftShopRomantic - You Said:
Apparently I'm SUPPOSED to be codependent and commit suicide in a tragic way
What makes you think this thread is about what you just said? You are totally over analyzing all this as you did over at the "Would You Kill For Love" -
dang Thrifty, codependant and over analyzing... not your day is it?
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I'm sorry to tell you this Thrift, but you "cannot" choose a pointy pointy thing ofyour choice. It must be a dagger or a sword. -
I'm getting ready to choose between the sword and dagger just because I can't take the abuse of prepositions any longer.
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The disturbing question of the day...o_0-
Maybe I need to post that clip again?
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Deray28 - How is this post disturbing? Either you would choose the dagger or sword, simple as that.
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Seriously AchE? you don't find the prospect of your husband's death and you thinking about suicide disturbing?
Claire, I think you need to
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Suzie, I made this for you, may it comfort you during those lonely nights at home by the fire ...-
bettieblogger - You are quite some "Winner" you first say to me I need professional help, then create this pic which is genious of you! So sorry to say but our minds think alike.
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OMG! I will cherish this forever. Thank you so much!
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ymw *laughs*
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AchE, so you think there's only one love for a person?
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Floormodel - Yes "Einstein" their called "Soul Mates"
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Yeah Einstein!
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ut oh someone's got her snippy britches on today.
so AchE, you think there's only one soul mate per person -
Floormodel - Don't worry about what I think, it means not much. Go with however many soul mates you think you need to make you happy.
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Ache, how many do you think I should need? what if my needs change when I age, what if my dream man turns out to be a nightmare? I'm so confused now. First you talk about disappearing men, now soul mates..
oh well at least you summed it up nicely when you said this:
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Floormodel - I think only 1 soul mate. Which consist of chemistry, love, passion, intellectual exchange, and etc. Not all can give you this so that's why I believe we all have 1 soul mate. My grandma died in 2007 3 days after my b-day and she had been married to my grandpa 65 years. My parents are heading to 43 years. So get my point?
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Yes, Einstein, "they're" called Soul Mates.
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You just don't get my subtle sense of humour. Why in the hell would anyone want to marry a man like Charles Manson? Let's think about that for a minute shall we. LOL ...
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I think you and AchE are very similar!
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bettieblogger - So are you trying speak for "All" women, when you say who wants to marry a man like Charles Manson? Or is that just your personal behavior tone?
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crpitt: oh dear god .. please tell me your kidding lol
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Not until you use the proper reply etiquette, only then will I withdraw the statement lol
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Your right, I truly do apologize, please let me revamp my question ...
crpitt: oh dear god .. please tell me your "kidding" lol
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Of course I am kidding!
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"thank you"
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wrong spot
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Ach since I seem to have to explain this to you ... The whole thing was a joke, my comment on Manson was to point out that he was a frikkin nutbag .. Therefore, why would anyone in thier right mind want to be with someone like that?
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bettieblogger - But that is your very own personal opinion. You can't speak for all women, by saying what you wouldn't want to do.
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she probably didn't get it because she's not Einsteinish like me...
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I'm thinking it might be a good thing he's dead - because procreating, thus producing more people who think this way could be a bad thing.
As for soul mates, there's plenty of 'em. You just need to be flexible...and stay away from daggers and such. lol P.S. Love the "snippy" britches. Hahaha! -
It has to be a joke or a stunt. The whole thing.
There's just no way anyone could be THIS confused and still run a business.
There's got to be some hook here we just haven't figured out yet. -
ThriftShopRomantic - Explain your comment?
There's just no way anyone could be THIS confused and still run a business. -
DaniG- You said:
As for soul mates, there's plenty of 'em. You just need to be flexible...and stay away from daggers and such. lol P.S. Love the "snippy" britches. Hahaha!
How can you conclude there are many soul mates for each one person? It your stat was true then why would one marry one soul mate if there entitled to have many soul mates as per you said? -
I agree on "soul mates"
a soul mate is who you make a soul mate. otherwise it'd be a world of people wandering around never meeting their "soul mate". and our idea of what a "soul mate" is tends to change over time. At 13 our soul mate is far different than at 20 or 30 or 40 .. I do not believe in soul mates, I think looking for a soul mate is occasionally an excuse people use to explain their being single and to justify being too scared to take a risk and see if a person fits with them. It's easier to say "I haven't met my soul mate yet, but I will know him/her when I meet him/her" than it is to say "I'm afraid of being hurt so I won't take the chance on this person who doesn't fit an imaginary unrealistic list, of qualities, I've made" -
Floormodel - Why would you be thinking of a soul mate at age 13 or 20? That is too young to be thinking like that, those ages should be focusing on playing with dolls and getting out of college.
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maybe you should explain the soul mate rules to us so we can all understand. I was unaware there were age restrictions on soul mate issues.
what if you never meet your soul mate and end up sad and alone because you turned down man after man who might've given you a happy and fufilling life together but weren't "soul mate" material in your eyes? -
Floormodel - So basically what you are really saying, is if your daughter was 13 and came home and said mom I met my "Soul Mate" can he sleep over? You would allow this? Since you have no age restrictions on soul mates and seem to think everyone has more than 1?
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AchE, take a step back from the computer. You're making things up again. I did not say that, I am attempting to discuss this with you, please try to play nice.
When did "soul mate" = sexing someone up?
my mind never went to sex, your's did. Please stick to the topic. -
Floormodel- You said:
AchE, take a step back from the computer. You're making things up again. I did not say that, I am attempting to discuss this with you, please try to play nice.
When did "soul mate" = sexing someone up?
my mind never went to sex, your's did. Please stick to the topic.
Where are you getting the word sex from "Sleep Over"? That word was not mentioned nowhere in my comment to you? Just because you have a sleep over with a boy or male doesn't mean sex. You could be watching movies, playing games, sleeping in separate beds with parent supervision, and etc. Sounds like you are over analyzing my stuff again. -
you know AchE, I try to give your posts some thought but they just plain don't always make sense.
I don't think life is like a movie. Movies are entertaining and often unrealistic. Life is what we make it and not some made up easily changed scenerio. The problem with your posts/questions is they do not always make sense. Andyou change them whenever someone tries to reply.
I'm not going to get into a debate on 13 yr,, old girls having boys they call their "soul mates" sleepover.
It has nothing to do with your first post which asks us "If your only love disappeared with a dagger in the heart, and the note on the heart said:
"Love Me For Eternity & Come With Me"
Which one would you choose to go with them dagger or sword?"
my answer is this: I'd choose neither. not just because there's no proof that person is dead but also because I have a life, children, and grandchild and while I would be sad to lose this person from my life be it to death by stabbing or just because they went "poof", I would never take up sword or dagger and harm myself. Doing that would cause too much pain for those who love me and I love my life, I love living and don't think there is only one person in this world who can coexist in my life.
Nor would I just take off dagger or sword in hand to run off for an eternity with them. My family and life are here, I'd never just go off and leave the people I love. No one who truely cared for me would ask me to just up and go without thought or care.
on a side note, if they "disappeared" how do you know they had a dagger in their heart and how do you even know there's a note? it would have gone "poof" with them wouldn't it?
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Floormodel- You said: on a side note, if they "disappeared" how do you know they had a dagger in their heart and how do you even know there's a note? it would have gone "poof" with them wouldn't it?
Well disappear could be factured as your love is out of you life that second (because you're thinking you will never be with them again) but you're at the sametime still with them because your touching them with the dagger and note. So once again you can conclude however you like. -
Well disappear could be factured as your love is out of you life that second (because you're thinking you will never be with them again) but you're at the sametime still with them because your touching them with the dagger and note. So once again you can conclude however you like.
that makes no sense at all.
please answer your original post yourself and tell us what you would do and why. maybe we can better understand what you mean if we read your answer. -
Floormodel - I explained it in away, and you still say it doesn't make sense. So that's why I mentioned to you to conclude this however you like.
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I'd choose a shovel to bury them.-
Back hoes are quicker. Don't ask how I know this....
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morgantj - How interesting of your comment, but you said over in "Would You Kill For Love" you wouldn't engage in such activity? So how could you bury your only true love after they've been stabbed with a dagger in the heart?
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DaniG - I have no idea on what you are really trying to say?
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AchEmpire, In this case they are already dead, so I would only need to bury them. In the "Would You Kill For Love" example, they are still alive and I would not engage in killing them. So you see, the "activity" is different. Savy?
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morgantj - What makes you think they are dead? The post never said dead, it just said you found them with a dagger in the heart. Don't try to over analyze all this.
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Daggers in the heart are typically fatal. Plus you said, your only love "disappeared"...
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morgantj - So you think that conclusion is enough supported data to conlude their dead? Well it's not, with me, and I didn't question this post with the word dead, and disappeared doesn't mean "Dead"
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if the3y aren't dead then why would they staple a note to their chest with a dagger and want you to go all stabby on yourself and join them?
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Floormodel- If you notice your conclusion is different from morgantj. Like I said I didn't mention anyone being dead in this post.
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Well AchE maybe, just maybe, everyone would understand your questions if you presented them in a clear concise way. Just my 2 cents.
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Deray28 - Excuse me? Concise way?
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Yes, clear and to the point, not with riddles, not leaving anything to the imagination. You want to know if someone would kill her/him-self because his/her lover was stabbed then ask it like that!
Don't imply situations in your questions and then adjust them at your convenience when you don't like a response to your thread. -
seriously AchE, if the men in your life are disappearing and leaving notes telling you to stab yourself, maybe there's a reason and you need to rethink either your taste in men or your own traits and personality quirks.
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Deray28- How interesting "Einstein" of you to say this part:
leaving anything to the imagination -
Thank you for the compliment, I've never been called Einstein before
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Floormodel- You said:
seriously AchE, if the men in your life are disappearing and leaving notes telling you to stab yourself, maybe there's a reason and you need to rethink either your taste in men or your own traits and personality quirks.
Why would you conclude I'm having a problem with men? Are you trying to correlate my threads as a way in really describing me as the 'Hidden" message to seek support by throwing everyone off with the titles and meanings mixed with the truth? -
AchEmpire, you say you didn't mention the person with the dagger in their heart is dead, okay, so if you want to play it like that, you also didn't say they were alive, so the reader is forced to make their own conclusion on if they are dead or alive based on what else you did say. And what you did say is that "your only love disappeared with a dagger in the heart." Which to me sounds like they already died. Daggers in the heart or typically fatal, and you said they "disappeared." If disappeared doesn't mean that they died, but that they actually "disappeared" then how can we know about the note and what it said?
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morgantj - You said:
AchEmpire, you say you didn't mention the person with the dagger in their heart is dead, okay, so if you want to play it like that, you also didn't say they were alive, so the reader is forced to make their own conclusion on if they are dead or alive based on what else you did say. And what you did say is that "your only love disappeared with a dagger in the heart." Which to me sounds like they already died. Daggers in the heart or typically fatal, and you said they "disappeared." If disappeared doesn't mean that they died, but that they actually "disappeared" then how can we know about the note and what it said?
First I have to applaud you on your "Einstein Reasonings" about this post. Second disappear could be factured as your love is out of you life that second (because you're thinking you will never be with them again) but you're at the sametime still with them because your touching them with the dagger and note. So once again you can conclude however you like. -
AchE you have to stop the name-calling. As much as I take being called Einstein as a compliment, you are using it as an insult and I will report you for it.
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Deray28 - Sorry for the mis-understanding. I was using the name as an example to some who are analyzing beyond reasonings which is a talent I recognize, but do as you choose anyways.
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Ach, who said I was speaking for ALL women? You really need to stop trying to read between the "lines" because what you see, is not really there at all...
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bettieblogger- Lets see you said:
Therefore, why would anyone in thier right mind want to be with someone like that?
So why would you say this, if you weren't really aiming towards all women? -
you can speak for me if you want
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Seriously women, go outside more .. this place is starting to "get to you".
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Can we leave my Manson out of this, please (with the exception of that lovely picture up there).
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MissSuzie - Actually Charles Manson is appearing in this thread because you mentioned you like men like him.
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Suzie, LOL .. you betcha
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The question is: In this cat and mouse game, who's the cat and who's the mouse?-
sometimes it's fun just being the dog
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I'm the human and I have so much fun watching the cat, the mouse and the dog, jajajajaja
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These threads remind me of when your out driving and you see a terrible accident. You know in your mind that you shouldn't look for fear of seeing something disturbing but alas... you do it anyway. I believe they call it "morbid curiousity".
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lmao
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bettieblogger - You retort my mind with your comments.
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AchE, do you mean retorT???
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morgantj - Yes thanks for catching it. bettieblogger caused me to mistype because of her non-stop nonsense of making fun of me.
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The only other possible explanation is if it were a riddle, and the heart and dagger were a tattoo, and the associated message with it.
And if that's the case, then all the confused questioning is a ploy designed to throw everybody off and test them.-
ThriftShopRomantic - Do you like to watch CSI or Cold Case? You seem to always want to try to figure out the "Hidden" message in my threads?
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Is the pot talking to the kettle?
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Ach- Do you think I like to watch CSI or Cold Case? And IS there a hidden message in your threads?
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ThriftShopRomantic - Nothing about my posts are riddles or plots. Why would you think a dagger in a heart is a image of a tattoo?
Remember you found your "True Love" with a dagger in the heart. I didn't say you found them at the tattoo shop getting a message.
& Actually this posts relates with "Would You Kill For Love"
I think you should watch "Unfaithful" and Dressed To Kill" again as a movie package.
If you don't remember "Dressed To Kill" it was about a man who dressed like a woman to kill other woman on their dates because they wouldn't date him. -
You know, the problem with using an online forum to test something like problem solving/cognitive theory, is riddles require context.
In order for something to be solved, people need to know it's a puzzle TO BE solved.
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ThriftShopRomantic - Nothing shakespear about this and see my comment again to you:
Remember you found your "True Love" with a dagger in the heart. I didn't say you found them at the tattoo shop getting a message.
& Actually this posts relates with "Would You Kill For Love"
I think you should watch "Unfaithful" and Dressed To Kill" again as a movie package.
If you don't remember "Dressed To Kill" it was about a man who dressed like a woman to kill other woman on their dates because they wouldn't date him.
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Ach wrote:
"bettieblogger caused me to mistype because of her non-stop nonsense of making fun of me."
I don't want to make fun of you, Ach. But you have this sneaky little way of starting a conversation then changing things drastically along the way.
I get that you don't understand why I find your topics so amusing, and that's ok with me. If I stumble upon a thread that interests me, for whatever reason, I will read the OP as well as the replies and go from there.
I have not entered one single thread of yours where I was not utterly confused or chuckling about 5 posts in. I don't say this to make you feel bad but I do "personally" feel that you need to learn to express yourself in a way everyone can understand if you want to get an answer to your question.
With each response you post, not once have I seen you say "Thanks for your reply" or "I appreciate you contributing" or "It's interesting that you say that, what makes you feel that way"?
Instead, you ask constant questions, always looking for another answer to your own. My best advice to you (and I know your not asking for it but hey .. that's me) is that you learn to truly listen to other's answers because really .. there is no reason to ask a question unless your willing to do that.
Over and out ... beam me up Scotty!-
bettieblogger - Well said "Barbara Walters" for your documentory of all this about me. Thanks and will engage in your response more.
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Wouldn't I be " Betty Walters" ?
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Okay, I've had enough fun for today-- I'm outta here!
Good luck with your project.
Or your therapy.
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ThriftShopRomantic - No project or therapy with me going on. Just remember to watch "Unfaithful" & "Dressed To Kill" as a movie package, since you are trying to figure me out.
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A lot of people when they look at Romeo and Julliet see two childish fools. I happen to be one of them. Look, if you're willing to kill yourself you should be willing to do anything, incluidng risk a hazardous journey to Padua and starting a new life.-
jeremyjanson - Hi where are you getting Romeo & Juliet in all this? I never mentioned their names and it sounds like this thread has caused you to conlcude that because I said dagger/sword and note. Well you are incorrect, but you can analyze this however you want. Go over and read the "Would You Kill For Love" and tell me if you are concluding Romeo & juliet in that? Maybe you are hiding something like you may have a soft fairytalish mind or something.
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moooooog35 - Why would you say such, if you found your wife or etc with a dagger in the heart?
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Maybe he got over it.
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This thread (and OP) reminds me of Heidi and Spencer...those empty headed zygotes that the world seems to be shamefully infatuated with simply for the pure delight in watching someone so efortlessly ambush their own integrity and self respect. Like watching an old blind dog try to lick his privates.-
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who, who?
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I'm guessing Derek is asking who are Heidi and Spencer...I had to google them, jajajaja.
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yes. who is heidi and spencer
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They are on the cover of all the grocery store trash mags. Beyond that I don't know which is why I don't understand the hype.
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You dont have to lie to me lotus. ;p
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lotusb - So because i posted the thread are you saying I'm a empty head?
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@Ach
As always you may extract whatever yummy morsel you wish from my comments and process it according to your own desire.
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Your suppose to cover the body and entire place in bleach so when CSI comes they cant do a DNA test and blame the death on you. Also, if it weren't for empty headed zygotes, the internet would cease to exist.-
Untrue on many levels.
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Serbaunt - This has nothing to do with CSI or Cold Case.
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Oh no, one more nonsensical question is going to get a hundred replies....
But still better than "How to sell your stuff in houston"
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That's right Tsu, your reply was #129 and mine is #130! But, if you really count how many people actually answered the question in the OP the number is greatly reduced
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crazyTsu - So what are you trying to call nonsensical?
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Oh some question here in BC discussion.. and I am not "trying" - I should "try not to" but unable to.. so I called it nonsensical
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crazyTsu - Ok, at one point I thought you were trying to say that with this one.
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Now why you feel differently?
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crazyTsu You are not making sense, with the question you are opposing at me?
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I am posing not opposing. How to oppose with a question?
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crazyTsu - Lets not start a debating marathon about your original question. It's getting late
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crazyTsu- You never answered your comment to me below:
Now why you feel differently?
Which doesn't make sense? -
I don't compete in Marathons with ladies
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Agit8r - What is so disturbing about this post?
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And now that I think about it...would any of us really go out looking in the woods to find whatever it is Ach has us finding? Wouldn't a creepy note like that implying violence kind of incline you to check around the house quickly and then lock up tight?
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MadameX - So are you saying you would lock up and leave your husband with a dagger stuck in his heart? Where are you getting woods from? I think you saw that comment to crpitt, but it was addressed only to her not in general.
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I have decided that these posts are a social experiment on impulse control and some researcher from Oxford/Cambridge or wherever is laughing his/her pants off.
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crpitt - Nothing is a social experiment with none of my posts.
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Claire, I imagine he/she is having a blast, kudos to him/her, it is really difficult to pretend for this long, especially making so many grammatic and orthographic errors on purpose!
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It wouldn't be that difficult for the right motivation, we have become helpless puppets.
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Dragger!-
sorcerer - It's dagger
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websatart1 - Are you advertising on this thread?
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whoooaa..I like those exhibitionists!!
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