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Posted by frankunknown • 9/23/07 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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I have a guestbook on my site and I received a serious death threat this morning on it. I have the IP address of the person who posted it and have reported it to the authorities. I am doing my own investigation on this and am checking all of my logs to find out what site referred this person to my site. If I find out that it was someone from this forum I am going to out you. Don't mess with me or you will be publicly shamed.
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I'm sure it wasn't anyone on this forum. Nobody rational wishes anyone dead just because they might not agree about something on a forum site.
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So just because a site maybe referred you doesnt mean that they had anything to do with it-
Interesting response... Anyone else think that was an interesting response? Like I said, I have the IP of the person who made the threat and my logs. I know who does what on my site.
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What you trying to say
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Why "interesting", Frank?
What about people using proxy servers?
Also, how can you correlate IP addresses to the exact comment? Or have you had light enough traffic to make the range of options manageable? -
I use Joomla on my site and the guestbook is a component that I added which posts all comments to a MySQL database and logs the IP.
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Well that's handy. But does it solve the proxy thing?
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I use joomla as well,if your trying to say I had anything to do with it thats slander. Any site can be a referring site from google to bc doesnt mean they have anything to do with it.
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Not saying you had anything to do with it. sorry.
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Interesting in the sense of logical and valid, yes it was.
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Sheesh! Sorry to hear that happened to you. People never cease to amaze me...Good luck finding out who it was! -
Frank, I'm afraid to say that this might come with the territory, given your URL and all. But that doesn't make it right. Have you considered notifying law enforcement authorities? (And which authorities would those be?)
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Sorry, I don't know how to make myself clearer here. Given your question marks here and your veiled accusation of Chris, I have to ask: is this for real?
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Oh, I see you wrote that you did report it. Mind if I ask what authorities one reports such things to? The local police? Just curious.
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Yeah excuse me for being paranoid. Local FBI office.
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No, if this happened, I understand paranoid. But don't lash out at people who might be able to help. That doesn't include me. I have no clue about this stuff. But Chris might have something useful to add---or might have had, before you began implying something dark about him.
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Yes, I have apologized and do so again. I am sorry. But I am paranoid.
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Okay. My point about "might come with the territory" was simply this: the U.S. is full of nuts who can get mean when you stamp on their religion---or anything else. I think Zawadi mentioned having some experiences of this kind years ago, though she's started up her controversial political blogging again.
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What happened to Zawadi's post did it get deleted?
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No, she said something about threats that got so bad she gave up that blog. But you'll have to get the details from her.
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Just ignore it I once wrote a story about a team of archaeologists finding Jesus's foreskin and a Christian fundamentalist talkshow host in NZ sent me an email threatening to blow me up with Semtex. For about three weeks he went on and on about it on his radio show then someone else upset him and he forgot all about me.-
Nice!
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A "serious death threat"? How do you know? In my previous profession I received a number of death threats, some serious (requiring police escorts) and some jerks blowing off steam. In my experience, it would be difficult to assess whether or not a death threat was "serious" based on a comment on a blog.
And then, of course, if the threat WAS perceived to be serious, attempting to threaten and antagonize someone in a public forum would be perhaps the worst possible means of response. If you seriously believe someone plans to kill you, then threatening to out them on a message board is a pretty weak and meaningless response; if you seriously believe that they'll see your response, you feed the danger in two ways: by showing that you're feeling powerless and by further irritating a dangerous person who has threatened your life.
If you're really worried, keep your mouth shut and let the experts handle it. If you're not really worried...well...then...why are we having this discussion?-
Wow. I don't know what else to say. I guess you said it all. Thanks.
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Tiffany, you never cease to amaze me.
Edit: or should I say impress?
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Hey, frank.
I do threat assessment and management for a living.
I looked at your guestbook, but the offending comment had already been deleted by you.
What was it about the threat that led you to believe it was "serious"?
Just out of curiosity, what things factored into your decision to delete the comment? I'm not challenging your decision here, just trying to get a little more information.-
Thanks for your offer of help. It isn't deleted, just unpublished. I have thgouht about it and I don't think I am going to talk anymore about it. Thanks for your offer though.
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How can a threat be serious online? Can someone find out exactly who and where you are to carry out any type of threat?-
Anonymity is kind of an illusion online. That's why I don't even bother.
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Frankunknown, this is terrible! I hope you find the perperator and get them sorted. I had a few threats on a forum once but the guy in question was mentally unwell and he swung from accusing me of castrating men, and wanting to rip my eyes out to being my friend. He is thankfull and amazingly very well now.
hopefully the threat is just some immature idiot and when they realise they have been caught they won't do it again. Have you reported them to aol or whoever it is that hosts their internet connection?-
meanwhile that's funny blog you have there!
It will ruffle feathers though, but then no ones forcing anyone to read it.
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I am amazed!
Given the way YOU talk to people, like you told me to "eat dick" in my shoutbox it's not surprising you ruffle feathers is it?
I had NOTHING to do with this sort of crap, I got better things to do than make stupid death threats on people but I am just pointing out, you have a "controversal" blog, you troll places like this and yet you show here how scared it makes you by veiedd threats of "outing" someone, someone who may not even come here.
Sorry to hear about the death threat, NO-ONE deserves that but as been said, nutters out there.
You stoke a fire you get burned.
Not saying you deserved it, just you don't exactly lead by example do you?
You stoke things up.
Hope you do get it sorted, BUT WHY they did it is more important so you can avoid it again.
Best of luck, and to whoever it could be "if" they read this, you are NEVER really anonymous online, you WILL get caught out.-
"Hope you do get it sorted, BUT WHY they did it is more important so you can avoid it again."
Now, we all know I'm no fan of franks blog. And this tends to lead me to believe that my expectation of anger and hatred would be more likely than the shame he hopes to elicit in his target audience.
That aside, you are saying that he should stop expressing himself because some one else **might** be sick enough to want to kill him for that expression. Heck I got a couple death threats over things that got said at howtocorp. I never took them as serious, but each has to come to their own road on that.
But I don't understand blaming the person who was threatened with death for the threat. Speech is speech. Even if it's disgusting. Even if it's puerile. Even if it's stupid. It's not justification for a death threat.
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Dane, I am not saying he desrved it or anything, just saying it would be good to find out WHY they said it.
I don't think he should not say what he wants to say, it's his blog, I don't care if he blogs more or not, just think knowing WHY someone would go that far is important. ;o)
I am NOT blaming anyone, I am saying WHAT you expect is often not what you see in reality in responses to what you say.
Piss people off and you don't expect them to say.. "hello mate" do you? -
I'm with Dane on this one, Rob.
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You think I am blaming him? Like Dane thinks I am?
You are both misreading me then.
Sorry, but I just saying WHY anyone says what they do is just as important as them saying whatever they do.
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Not so much that you are blaming him as that you are looking for the reasons in the wrong place. The reason someone leaves a death threat, is in the person making the threat, not the person receiving it. Mother Theresa received death threats.
I'm saying that nothing he has or could have said is the WHY. The WHY lies within the less than optimally functioning mind of the threatener. And that goes for whether it's "serious" or not. -
Ok Dane.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I see your point.
I am just saying...I would want to know WHY it was made if it was me thats all.
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I used to have a political blog, and some people didn't take to what I said, and was really given death threats. They arrived in the (snail) mail and the person who actually did it somehow had the names of all my family.
If you're worried call the authorities. I closed my blog personally and gave up trying to argue and debate anything politics, there are nutters out there for sure. -
Here's some things to consider:
Is there anyone you've mad angry lately that you actually know?
Are they serious death threats, or simple "You should die!" type of things?
Don't go around on forums saying "If I find out that it was someone from this forum I am going to out you. Don't mess with me or you will be publicly shamed." All that does it make you look like an angry person, and it can tempt the other person to take things further (assuming they are serious). That's a big no-no.
Have you actually reported them to the authorities?
As MadameX said, be quiet and let the authorities handle it (if you actually did inform them), they exist for a reason. -
I have seen your site and to be honest, some of the stuff you say here has made me laugh, but your site could be offending someone who is very devoted to Mormonism? -
Jut another comment I want to add.
The worst things you can do is talk about someone's God.
When you do this. You will be in for a fight. Death threats have come my way.
I wont stop speaking about what I believe again.
People have been killed for doing just this. I will never put my Family in harms way, but Frank, when you do this, believe me it's no joke man.
My advice to you is block the IP, and that was good you reported it.
Also, If you believe in what you are saying and feel compelled to blog about it, speak up publicly about it, etc... Are you ready for more responses like that (threats).
If not, stop now. -
I wonder if frankunknown is okay as its been months since he was last heard from.... -
hey dude with scary avator!
what did the person say to you that was so threatening?
hb~
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