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Do men equally consider dating women who...
Posted by TheBloggerExposed • 4/21/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
have been married?
When it comes to dating, do divorcees get equal opportunity? Or are they reserved for slumps and last resorts?
Is attraction and chemistry just that, or does having a history detract from the appeal?
Just wondering....no special reason
(sniffles)
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I've been married fourteen times up to now and I feel my history presents the ladies with a challenge.
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It's really strange that you pose this question. I have noticed similar discrimination with women.
Also, I noticed that I won't date a divorced woman if I knew her husband (Is that weird?).
But to answer your question, I would actually prefer a divorced woman, I would feel like we have more in common. -
I dated a divorced guy once. His bitterness was through the roof. Definitely not the guy you want representing Team Divorcee.
When it comes to someone who has been divorced or has been involved in a number of relationships gone wrong, I always worry about baggage and the affect it can have on a current relationship.
But I think if you're attracted to someone... you're attracted. Knowing their history just might determine how you act on it. -
definatly, i'd be more wary of someone with a large career gap. thinking why doesn't anybody want to date him/her?
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I've never really thought of it that way ... but at my age it would be kind of weird to meet someone who had never been married ... or at least never lived common law. So I think I'd be more likely to think a man in his 40s or older was a bit weird if he'd been single all his life.
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The thing is we all come with a past, thats a given, however how it's dealt with when taken into the next relationship. I've been on dates with divorced men some are cool but others give you a complete breakdown of the marriage and why it went wrong, but I'm only hearing one side of it and it's hard to judge who may be right or wrong.
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@drowseymonkey it depends on what I am looking for.
If I am looking just to get laid a women single mom is perfect. They don't have a lot of time to mess around so when they go out they have a goal and know what they want to do it. It is hard for them to get away usually and when they do they are kind of forward.
If I am looking for a long term relationship I don't want them to have kids. It is less likely they will want anymore and I don't need to deal with the ex being in their life. You have a whole level of additional drama. Plus if things don't work a break up is much harder with a kid involved.
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See, I feel like I will be that much wiser. I actually think I have more to bring to a relationship than I did as the naive girl who walked down the aisle. Partly due to what I have learned, but also just because I'm older.
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Ah yes, well said. That naive girl ... we were all her at one time. I'd hate to be her again! And I loose my patience sometimes when I hear naive women going on & on about life. I need to remember we were like that at one time. But I'd hate to date a guy who was naive to the realities of life. I'm sure I wouldn't even be attracted to a guy like that or vice versa.
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For me naive would be someone who hasn't been in a long-term relationship. So they'd be naive about the complexities involved in making a relationship work and the complexities that happen when the relationship falls apart.
There's one thing to be very bright and understanding the world, but another when you've actually experienced it first-hand. -
Honestly, it really even depends on how long-term and the circumstances of the relationship. Of course, there are other factors influencing one's naivity besides relationships, but since that's the topic here, we'll stick to that.
In any case, I feel that I have been somewhat blind and naive about my spouse up until recently (probably the last year or so) and I've been married for a long time! It's not about cheating or anything like that, but actually more complex issues.
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id the ex husband is 6'6'' only in muscle tattoo loaded and very jealous i'll pass my turn. since i'm not really a believer and marriage mean nothing to me so in normal time it's doesn't matter to me if she's been maried or not!
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I'm currently a single divorced married man, living a strange and confusing, but always interesting life. If you don't think it's confusing, then you've never been single, divorced, and married all at the same time. And no, I don't belong to a polygamy cult in Texas.
Basically, we were separated for a year but are trying to work things out, but things are still open, except when they're not. I don't think I'm doing a very good job dispelling any confusion, so I'll just give up now. That's what my blog's for, anyway.
To answer your question, though - it wouldn't bother me in the slightest to date a divorced woman. Well, any more than it would bother me to date a non-divorced woman. I don't get dating, really. I do get meeting lots of people and enjoying each other's company, but why everyone has to suddenly jump into a relationship stumps me. It perplexes me now more that I've been in a marriage, and it's definitely not something I would advocate to anyone.
However, to stop speaking for myself and to start representing my gender, I'd say that to a lot of men looking for a serious, exclusive relationship, having a divorce on your Permanent Record (See! All those years in school and you never thought it really existed) will be a knock against you. Unless they have also been divorced, in which case it will work in your favor.
My recommendation: Don't bring it up. Seriously, until the relationship evolves to a more serious level, what does it really matter if you said I Do and then I Don't? If, once you and the guy get to that level where your past is relevant because you're looking to take things to a more serious place, the divorce bothers him and he bolts, then consider yourself spared a lot of needless misery and drama.
It shouldn't matter at all in a casual relationship, so just don't mention it. If it's a problem for the guy you've dated for a good while and who you think is Mr. Right, then it's a good way to find out if he is or if he isn't.-
I'm curious about how you say you and your wife have been separated for a year and are still trying to work things out.
I guess I'm wondering what it is you guys are hoping/needing to accomplish in order to decide whether or not to just make it or break it. I know that I would need closure so that I could move on if it didn't seem like it was going to work out.
I'm currently trying to decide similar things myself, so I do understand how complicated it can be. -
Things fizzled out between us for a few reasons. First, we were too intensely right at the start, and when that happens there's just an enormous pressure to keep that up, at first in private and in apperance to the outside world, and later just the latter. Second, I made the mistake of changing my lifestyle to better suit what I thought a Good Husband should be. The problem with changing yourself, however, is that you fundamentally alter what attracted your mate to you in the first place. The irony in my situation, however, is that I changed precisely because if I'd maintained my lifestyle prior to her, it surely would have killed the marriage.
The biggest nail in our coffin, however, was that changing my lifestyle also had the unfortunate effect of putting a cork in my writing. I found myself creatively constipated and flushing my career down the toliet, while I was funding her going back to school and helping her find her own identity.
Anyway, she moved out and now she's moved back in and we're trying to get things back on track. I'm writing again, but I write experiential essays and it took me going out again to realize that it's neccessary for me to have something to write about. I see us going one of two ways. Either we'll have one of the oddest marriages in history, with her letting me go socialize and womanize at will in order to feed my career, or we'll just own up to the absurdity of the situation, divorce and remain friends. A betting man would put odds on the latter.
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As long as they are divorced and not still married I have no problem. Being divrced does not make you a bad person. I am divorced and I may be naughty and crazy but I don't think I am a bad person. I wouldn't let the fact that a man has kids stop me from dating him.
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How is your daughter doing with the change? I guess if she's 13 or 14 (based on the turkey baster incident) then she should be OK. And yeah, I guess at that age it is probably better for them to live with their moms, only because of all the associated issues that they need guidance or advice on. Nothing against dad's at all!
And yes, if a woman doesn't want to date you because you have a child at home, then obviously she would never have potential to fit your life anyway. So the sooner she's out the better, unless it's a mutual decision that the relationship is just for fun anyway.
That's my two cents on that.
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I think you all need to check out my blog - I discuss these and many more questions having to do with modern dating.
Is it really possible to find someone older than 35 who is single and not divorced and who doesn't want to wear diapers or have some other fetish??-
Quite possibly.
I was nearly thirty when I married: for the first time, and it would appear for the last as well. Not too many more years, and I would have been part of the demographic you referred to.
In my case, it wasn't wearing diapers: it was more a matter of family priorities, and a less-than-suave social style. You might say that I was a geek, born ahead of my time.
I even carried a number of writing instruments in a pocket-protector.
And no, I did not have a fetish about them: I had uses for the various colors and technologies.
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I don't think the history should detract from the appeal, in fact it should make one wiser. What is very important is how does one handle the history or "baggage"?
- Hide it in the closet for no one to see
- Unpack it and put it away nicely
- Carry it around like you are going on a trip
I have never been divorced and I don't intend to. My parents were. I was the son that was there for a mother during hardships; the son who listened.
Divorcees, the best thing you could ever do is learn to take the baggage and unpack it nicely and put everything away where it belongs and don't carry it around...or you might find yourself on a trip—a trip to find another date because the first one was scared away.
History should not detract from the appeal unless someone carries it around like baggage...that is a turn off. History should be portrayed as wisdom and experience.
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That is exactly how I see it. Like I said in a comment above this somewhere, I feel like I will actually have more to bring to a relationship than I did when I got married because I am older, wiser, more mature and have experience to draw from. I'm also developing my identity and therefore becoming more self-confident.
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I am. But, I will be moving out soon. I've actually been "living" in the guest room for months already (not that there aren't conjugal visits, but it's more the principle
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I'm not planning on dating right away. There aren't exactly any fish in this desert of a sea, anyway. I'm just curious about this topic and wondering if I'm doomed to end up an old maid (er, divorcee).
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Yes I've been married but found it made no difference, surely if someone likes you as a person it shouldn't. If it does affect their perception of you, move on, they're not worth knowing. History is history and we all have one.
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That's very true. By the time you're my age (early thirties), everyone has surely had long-term relationships at some point which, if one is dating, have obviously had to end. It's just that some of ours were legally binding.
If they haven't had a long-term relationship, that would actually be more of a turn off for me because I am not interested in showing the ropes. That's pretty much why my relationship is ending. I'm tired of spelling everything out! I will gladly put in my 50%, but I'm done doing more than my share.
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I think it depends on how mad they are. If they are totally crazy, well it's a definite yes. If they are very ordinary and extremely boring, well no. Give me a complicated woman anyday.
And...they must have a diet of fruit salad and bamboo shoots-
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Must eat bean shoots..must eat bean shoots
they must be extremely complicated
The 3 woman closest to me say I am the most complicated human they have ever met ..(in a nice way)
Now today friends we are doing computer script as a form of recreation
Actually, I am very very picky...must be beautiful for a start, yes that's shallow....then they must have a brain....emotional intelligence....and very funny
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Marwwiage, that bwessed occassion...
I don't see the point of marriage, really. All it does is add all sorts of legal hassle when things go south. Why not just be with someone if you want to be with them, and if it lasts the rest of your lives, then great! If it doesn't, then you can both just go your separate ways without having to go through any official proceedings. Assuming, of course, that you're not going to bicker too much over who gets what.
In fact, I no longer see the point of declared exclusivity at all. All it's good for is eventually making one (or both) of you jealous, suspicious, angry, etc...at the other. People aren't property, and as much as us tripods might have some leftover animal instinct of marking our territory, it just isn't so.
Go out. Meet people. Have fun. Things will always be fresh and new.
Unless, of course, you're goofy looking and can't get a date. And the whole theory starts to fall apart the older you get, I guess. I don't really buy that, though. Everyone seems to be scared of ending up alone and crossing this imaginary and arbitrary dateline when, if by then they are not with someone, they feel they never will be. That's just complete silliness, and it plays right into the other most common mentality today - frantically worrying about dying so much that you don't really live at all. Health food, the gym, early to bed, early to rise, vitamins, supplements, all manner of prime-time advertised pharmaceuticals for conditions you never knew existed but are suddenly sure you have (or at least need to prevent), diets...it never ends. Everyone is terrified of getting old and doing anything they can to look young while never really bothering to feel young. God bless the USA!
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