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Do you beleive Psi (ESP. Telepathy, Telekinesis) is real?
Posted by ethanre • 1/08/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: ghosts, healing, psi, reincarnation, sixth sense, telekinesis, telepathy
Do you believe Psi is real or just mumbojumbo?
Psi is parapsychology (i.e. ESP, Telepathy & Empathy, Clairvoyance & Remote Viewing, Sixth Sense, Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences, Channeling & Mediumship, Healing, Psychokinesis & Telekinesis, Fortune Telling, Past Lives & Reincarnation, Animal ESP)
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My...aren't we curious tonight?
I do believe it's real. And I do have theories as to why. I will have to join that forum
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I love to hear theories. Looking forward to discussing this further in the forums. I also believe in Psi, i guess I've seen enough evidence to convince me. i would like to develop some tests and get a group of volunteers in the future to take the tests. It'd be nice if we can prove it once and for all.
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No, and I do not possess magical powers of telepatheticky. -
Let me correct myself, i believe that some Psi phenomena are true, not all, that perhaps we just have not explained them scientifically yet, thus we cal them Psi..for now
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No I dont believe in it, that stuff is for crazy people and con men, to take money from the crazy people who believe in this stuff.
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Well, Psi refers to human abilities that are not ordinarily acknowledged by science such as telepathy, remote viewing, and psychokinesis, plus healing.
The dictionary, unfortunately, equates the word to "supernatural," which is something different. I don't think there is anything in the supernatural about psi;
If we can proof the existence of Psi, then it's simply an aspect of nature that we don't yet understand. All science facts today were supernatural at some point.
By the way Psi does not really deal with super beings or crap like that, I mean yes people do include all sorts of things under the Psi umbrella, but Psi to me is limited to telepathy and anything that relates to that. I however need to see experiments with results. If we can have evidence based proof of telepathy I will be willing to accept it even if the current science can't explain why things happen the way they do -
I believe that everyone has abilities that most do not realize they have. Society would like to call those abilities evil, or coming from the devil as a way of stifling people from developing what we all hold within us anyway. I believe that most of mankind, are afraid of what we are actually capable of.
I believe that everything is made up of vibrations, vibrating at its own frequency, making it more solid, etc., than others, and degrees of light, which can be manipulated by controlling those vibrations, and we have that ability, if we so choose, and/or allow ourselves to develop that ability.
I believe everything is connected together, and we all control the light and vibrations, and they all play off of each other.
I believe our bodies are only a vessel for our soul at this moment in its existence, and our soul can do as it pleases. It has been around long before our bodies (we) were born, and will be around long after we are gone. We, as in how we conceive of we, on this Earth, is not all of what we are, have been, or will be.-
This is my exact point of view.
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YES i do believe in T E L E P A T H Y..
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Thank you guys, wow i wish I only could get half these replies to my blog articles
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For me, the jury is out on this one.
Paranormal and supernatural are not the same things. I've experienced some peculiar things that might be explainable by coincidence, for example, but happened so predictably that coincidence would seem a weak explanation.
I can't say I believe...my experiences could have been mere coincidence...and I think a lot of the paranormal stuff is just bunk. But I'll wait for scientific inquiry into certain phenomenon to mature before I fully commit.-
I believe many that claim to be using their own ability, are not actually using their own ability. In other words Con Artists.
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yes lots of crocks out there, even if any Psi is real, all the fuss and lies and misinformation not only give a bad rep to all Psi phenomena but also make finding any truth harder
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If you want ESP look at this book "Practice of Magical Evocation, by one Franz Bardon" BUT WARNING IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE....!-
got good reviews on amazon
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so, i will be able to communicate with spirits if i follow the instructions? did u ?
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Of course PSI is real....all people have this ability embedded in their DNA. But, most pass it off as coincidence, or are warned against delving into it by their loved ones, or church leaders, etc.
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Exactly, that is what I was trying to say. But like ethanre stated, there are many who are not actually using their ability, but are claiming to, which also leads to or fuels dis-belief.
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These phenomena have been proved by scientific experiments but these experiments are rarely published in the mainstream.There are a couple of books that talk about these experiments in detail.
I wasn't waiting for a scientific experiment to prove this for me.I believed in it anyway.And now after I read about all these experiments, my belief only became stronger.-
Don't you think that the very fact that they were not published in the mainstream makes them suspicious?
I am all for scientific method. That means publishing your findings in journals where others can read about your findings and then duplicate them. If the findings cannot be duplicated by others, then their validity is called into question.
The fact that what you have read has not be published widely, duplicated and verified by peer researchers makes me unwilling to believe them. -
There are a few books that HAVE been published though.You can find them on Amazon.com. One of them is called "Entangled Minds"
However these things are rarely taught academically and are looked at as pseudoscience.The same way medical schools consider energy healing as nonesense and disregard it completely.That does not mean energy and alternative healing methods do not exist. -
most professors or scientists are actually bound by their financiers, corporations and such. Their reputation is important as it guarantees funding. So, big money logically can influence what gets studied and what gets published or shelved.
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I concede that there are probably forces at work that we don't understand with our puny, human minds, but I don't believe--generally--in psychic powers as typically defined by modern society. I know that sometimes strange things happen--heck, I kept my own diary of such for years--but a lot of that has a basis in science or mere coincidence. -
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Sometimes the biggest critics of PSI, are those who don't have it - and want it. But, all have it, some use it.
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I have experience of spectrum energy plus learned by invisible man. my experienci i write at www.spectrum-energy-plus.co.cc -
Thank you for all your responses
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There are many many con artists that tarnish the reputation and actual cases of psi. Quantum physics, both tested and theoretical, has actually supported many aspects of psi. And yes, I also believe in the paranormal.
You know what they say, you come back as either a madman or a poet, no one told me it might be both lol. -
I believe that there are abilities of the human mind that people can develop which are not necessarily extra sensory perception which can make people more perceptive and smarter than other people. A lot of this kind of training is surrounded by psychobabble and impossible promises.
Some examples are training like the memory palace which allows a person to have an incredible memory. Visualization skills-- Alexander The Great was supposed to have been able to visualize his battles before they started to a very high degree. Also, I believe with the proper training in listening and attention people can hone their perception of the world around them to pick up lots of things which other people don't see. This may like psi but it is not. Some people have over acute senses which can be a problem.
I also believe that most people do very little to pay attention to the world around them. Mental training like speed reading, mathematical training, meditation can seem almost mystical. Physical training in the extreme like being able to control ones autonomic nervous system as well is possible. I believe that some people can stop and restart their hearts, control their internal body temperature, go for long periods without sleep, etc.
If you read many meditation texts they will tell you that things like esp, telekinesis, etc. are a distraction, they are powers, not necessarily particularly useful to people. Paying attention, prayer and meditation and developing ones mind are more important. -
If approached from the religious point of view, it is true what wehireu states.
But, if you speak to individuals privately, whether they be mystics or those who simply have had these experiences all their lives, the answer will be quite different. Because PSI has been abused by mercenaries throughout history, even into the days of Christ, the church has warned against it.
Therefore, if one is associated with a particular religion, and has these abilities, they will deny it's usefulness, or it's very existence when writing their texts. The Roman Catholic Church has been known to require their approval before a mystic would be allowed to publish either their memoirs, or any other written account, with strict guidelines for what that individual may disclose to the public.
But, whether or not Christianity approves or disapproves of these abilities, they do exist, and have for thousands of years. -
There is another reason for this. Psychic abilities are a distraction, they are a manifestation of a very strong mind, but are not the usual end goal of a persons every day thoughts. In buddhist philosophy, the goal is enlightenment not moving small objects through the air or clairvoyance. The same is true for christianity or other religious systems.
It is not a denial of its usefulness it is an affirmation that seeking after mental powers does not make you any more enlightened than anyone else.
There is a certain silliness in telekinesis when you can pick up a rock and walk across the room it is much more reasonable. Psi powers are exactly that power and power corrupts without a framework to put it in.
The practical aspects of having a strong mind are ultimately far more important than being able to move rocks around, or peering inside someones head. Psychic healing is no better than visiting a doctor. The doctor is more likely to heal you with everyday things. This is the reality of what psi is. -
Warn people about something, and it will only draw them closer to it.
Try to disclaim their truths, and their truths become more solid.. -
I believe that many of those phenomena exist, but that there is nothing "supernatural" about them. -
You're right, Madame X. It isn't "supernatural". It's natural. It's in our DNA, but faded out by family, friends, ministers, etc.
So, if you don't have it now, don't blame yourself. You used to have it.
Blame your mother
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