Blog Catalog Discussion: Do You Believe in Angels?

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:36:20 -0600

You think I might have entertained an angel one time without knowing it?

creemos on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

creemos — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:37:54 -0600

I believe angels exist - as God declares in His word. I do not "believe" or put my faith in angels - for they are "ministering spirits" to the children of promise!

We also entertain angels unawares too...

You missed these two on your list! ;)

webmoney on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

webmoney — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:15:08 -0600

Yes I do believe in angel, and I believe that their is a God who create the world.

Arnous81 on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

Arnous81 — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:19:53 -0600

Whats not logical about it? Why not having creatures that our eyes and ears can not detect?

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:12:47 -0600

I saw a crib over the holidays, and the angels that they put round it all looked like Barbie dolls! Do you think this is an appropriate model for visualizing an angel?

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:55:18 -0600

Somehow it seems a lot easier at this time of the year to believe that angels exist.

Has anyone else noticed this?

luckyless on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

luckyless — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:07:51 -0600

angels

jonrs on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

jonrs — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:39:47 -0600

they believed in me. soo i guess I believed in angels.

CrankyChick on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

CrankyChick — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:41:52 -0600

I have to say that based on subjective experiences I have had that I do (even though it is not rational to others) I have even had experiences w/ spiritual guides.

lnclark1950 on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

lnclark1950 — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:12:14 -0600

I believe there are good angels and bad angels (demons).

kerenfathi on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

kerenfathi — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:31:29 -0600

TT I am sure you are right!! but at the moment he is the best thing that ever happened to me. His smile can take any kind of pain away! thats an angel to me ;)
I dont believe in any other form of angel. I believe in bad and good energy.

luckyless on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

luckyless — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:14 -0600

yes i believe in angels .. as well as devils :p

kay7even on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

kay7even — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:38:41 -0600

Don't believe in angels! Believe in God!
Because angels can be good and bad. Rather you should asked if we believe they exist...

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:35:43 -0600

@kerenfathi
Ha! Ha! Ha! He's disqualified because he's human and angels are supposedly supernatural beings. Also when he grows up and begins to challenge you I'm betting that you will be hard pressed not to characterize him as a devil. :P

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:32:29 -0600

@filosofia
I could go on and on and on and on but I won't ... lol :P

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:33:20 -0600

@dosox
Your faith is the greatest Divine
We are friends so I want to explain to you that although what you posted makes sense to yourself it does not translate well into English.

Do you mean to say that whatever we humans choose to have faith in becomes our divinity?

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:29:30 -0600

To timethief: That is a truly amazing post! I didn't know any of that before.

Thank you very much for sharing it. x

kerenfathi on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

kerenfathi — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:22:23 -0600

I know there is at least one angel. My son Liam! :)

dosox on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

dosox — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:05:09 -0600

Your faith is the greatest Divine

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:02:24 -0600

@HSBC123
We know that angels exist because we are still here after reaching rock bottom, they come in all kinds of positive gifts from others.

We do not "know" that either gods or angels exist. Many think they have imaginary friends but none of the reports of these alleged encounters bear up under scientific scrutiny. Hence we have no knowledge of them.

Are you alleging that you have met and communicated with an angel or angels?
Are you claiming that you have received a gift or gifts from angels?
Or are you claiming that when humans act compassionately towards other humans who have reached rock bottom that they are angels?

HSBC123 on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

HSBC123 — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:54:06 -0600

We know that angels exist because we are still here after reaching rock bottom, they come in all kinds of positive gifts from others.

Peace

S and H

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:46:43 -0600

This belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Eusebius, "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and Assyrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an Assyrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."

Zoroastrianism recognizes various classes of spiritual beings besides the Supreme Being (Ahura Mazda): The Amesha Spentas, Yazatas, and Fravashis. In practice (cf. Sad Dar, chapter 26), Zoroastrians pick a patron angel for their protection, and throughout their lives are careful to observe prayers dedicated to that angel.

Also known as Arda Fravash ("Holy Guardian Angels"). Each person is accompanied by a guardian angel (Y26.4, 55.1), which acts as a guide throughout life. They originally patrolled the boundaries of the ramparts of heaven (Bd6.3, Zs5.2), but volunteer to descend to earth to stand by individuals to the end of their days. Ahura Mazda advises Zarathushtra to invoke them for help whenever he finds himself in danger (Yt13.19-20). If not for their guardianship, animals and people could not have continued to exist, because the wicked Druj would have destroyed them all (Yt13.12-13).

The Fravashi also serves as an ideal which the soul has to strive for and emulate, and ultimately becomes one with after death (Y16.7, 26.7, 26.11, 71.23, Yt22.39) (See Dhalla, History of Zoroastrianism, pg 232-243, 375-378)

That every individual soul has a guardian angel has never been defined by the Christian Church, and is, consequently, NOT an article of faith; but it is the "mind of the Church", as St. Jerome expressed it: "how great the dignity of the soul, since each one has from his birth an angel commissioned to guard it." (Comm. in Matt., xviii, lib. II) see Matthew 18:10

(FWIW I do NOT believe in the existence of angels.)

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:11:32 -0600

Does anyone know the origin of the belief that everyone has their own Guardian Angel?

arilestariono on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

arilestariono — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 05:10:34 -0600

i believe in angels

alangayandstraight on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

alangayandstraight — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:09:51 -0600

Almost everyone in AA who has success in recovery believes in what almost all refer to as God. Ask anyone who's had success.

God grant me the serenity........

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:05:54 -0600

@mtyler77
I have also met extraordinarily gifted and compassionate human beings. Some might refer to the as being "angels" but when doing so they are not suggesting that they are supernatural beings. Neither does being in touch with one's "higher self" (consciousness) mean that one is experiencing a supernatural being. What's being experienced is a way of being, a state that's free from all ego-driven needs and imperatives.

alangayandstraight on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

alangayandstraight — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:01:00 -0600

Almost all people who have success in recovery believe in a higher power, a God of their understanding.

I believe in angels also

melindaville on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

melindaville — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:43:09 -0600

You actually might want to talk to someone about that--I agree with timethief here and I do not mean to sound flip at all. I am a psychologist and I can tell you that it is not normal to hear or see things that other people do not.

melindaville on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

melindaville — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:41:50 -0600

I believe there are people who are far more evolved than others--they are people who are so selfless, committed to good causes, and pure of heart that I would consider them to be 'angels.' I have met some of those types of people and they have helped me enormously during my 15 year journey of recovery from heroin.

Those are the only types of angels I believe in.

timethief on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

timethief — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:36:50 -0600

Have you considered seeking out the advice of medical and/ or mental health practitioners? That's the usual course of action for those who claim to hear disembodied voices or to see non-existent beings.

songinwind2009 on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

songinwind2009 — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:31:53 -0600

I do believe in angels, as I have had 2 experencing now..and there is no other answer that I can come up with..

SpiritualBloggers on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

SpiritualBloggers — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:59:22 -0600

I wonder what it would be like to BE an Angel; if it were your job to help people who couldn't hear or understand you and they debated your existence. It sounds like a public service job to me...

morgantj on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

morgantj — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:05:48 -0600

Actually filosofia, "what is known" about angels for most Christians comes from what they read out of the bible. Which makes up for about 85% of people in the states. (that is about the percentage that have affiliated themselves with Christianity in the states) Now, how the authors of the bible came up with that information is another story.

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:16:12 -0500

According to tradition, the heads of the Cherubim, the highest order of angels, are described as having four forms - one like a bull, one like a lion, one like an eagle, and one like a man. These are, of course, the four "fixed signs" of the Zodiac - Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius - and they later became the symbols of the four Evangelists - Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Paraphrased from "Myth and Ritual in Christianity" by Alan Watts

MarkPogue on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

MarkPogue — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:13:15 -0500

Thank you. I simply chose not to debate or defend my opinion any further. I'm not going to contribute to the hijacking of a thread I didn't start.

searchingwithin on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

searchingwithin — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:35:24 -0500

Yep, http://openyourhearttothelove.blogspot.com/2008/10/living-angel.html

robinj on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

robinj — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:49:55 -0500

Mark is just as entitled to an opinion and a belief as anyone else here and is free to state the reasons for his beliefs as is anyone else here....what I believe we as adults need to do however is respect the beliefs of others and saying all people who believe in angels are stupid for example is making it personally just as stating all people who don't believe are ignorant is also making it personal....keep it to the topic and away from personal judgments about the character of people who differ in their views to you

thefortunes on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

thefortunes — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:20:35 -0500

Well, I do believe in angels, and more so because years ago my Guardian Angel saved my life in a crash.

filosofia on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

filosofia — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:37:31 -0500

To piodalcin: Yes that's right, they are all over the place in the Bible. The point I was making is that the Bible very rarely gives us much information about what they are like, and what their powers are.

I wish you would share your account of meetings with angels. I can't promise that everyone who reads will be lending a sympathetic ear, as this thread is in General Discussions, but hopefully most of the die-hard sceptics might be asleep.

vinceenzo on 'Do You Believe in Angels?'

vinceenzo — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:35:29 -0500

It's interesting you say that because, the people who thought the earth was flat longer than others, were not around anyone who knew any better. (or didn't believe it when someone told them- what they thought wasn't true) I have a question for you, have you been in space or flown around the world(in one sitting of course), because I haven't. A person only knows what he or she experiences, or believes is true- which is usually based on some strand of experience. So it, either may take some time for our limited minds to catch up with the idea of unlimited possibilities, or we wont-inevitably ending up thinking like you. But think of the how much further ahead we would be if we didn't put such ridiculous limits on what we think is possible/true.