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Do you believe murderers deserve the death sentence.
Posted by jazzy2103 • 9/01/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: death row
I think killing a guy would be an easy end but do they even suffer if we kill them?
what do you think of death row?
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Well, it depends on the type of murder, but I think it's worse if we force him to die in jail! they suffer more, that's my opinion -
I believe they should live with the consequences of their actions and spend the rest of their life in prison. I don't support the death penalty for several reasons, this is one of them.
www.innocenceproject.org/know/Search-Profiles.php?check=check&title=&yearCo...-
actualy i agree with you.
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(1) I do NOT support the state ever having the legal authority to torture, or remove body parts from any citizens, or kill them, whether they be prisoners or not.
(2) I am mindful of many wrongful convictions and most particulalry, those that have been exposed since DNA testing became available.
(3) I support exploring whatever other alternatives there may be that result in protection of the public from violent offenders. -
No. Tell me, someone, how the death penalty makes us better than murderers? "They did it first!" SO?? Show some class. What do you think is greater punishment? Death? Or the rest of your life in a crappy prison? The guilt will make it torture, and if they're without guilt? Well, they can be bared from seeing their family and kept in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives then. But death is not, has never been, and will never be the answer.
"The prisons are over-crowded!" WHAT?! Did you DARE just use that argument? Well great. Lets see. New York? London? Tokyo? They're pretty over-crowded...why not start gunning people down at random to get some frikkin SPACE. Yeah? What a stupid argument.
My blog on this subject: theiratedog.blogspot.com/2009/06/why-death-penalty-is-never-ever-answer.htm... -
By reforming the drug laws we could create a lot more space in prison for those who really need to be there. I am absolutely against the death penalty for all the reasons stated above. The State has no more moral right to commit murder than an individual.-
By reforming the drug laws we could create a lot more space in prison for those who really need to be there.
I agree with you. -
"The State has no more moral right to commit murder than an individual."
I disagree...The state has a moral right to execute monsters who kill its citizens for their own amusement such as Charles Manson etc.(Provided there is no doubt of their guilt) ...People like him should be stoned to death like Mussolini... -
Given that 24.5% of federal and 29% of state prisoners convicted of violent crimes report being under the influence of drugs at the time of their crimes, I'm not at all sure that loosening up the drug laws is a step toward solving the murder problem. (Bureau of Justice Statistics survey from 1997, the most recent data I could find quickly) -
Gerry, the death penalty is a stone that once it starts rolling gathers a lot of moss. Once you start with the Charles Mansons etal, who knows where it will end? I'd rather play it safe and say no capital punishment.
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"the death penalty is a stone that once it starts rolling gathers a lot of moss"
I agree with you and this part of the problem preventing common sense prevailing to get rid of the many monsters being housed at the taxpayers expense in prisons... -
Madame X-I said reforming the drug laws not loosening them up. How many violent crimes occur under the influence of marijuana? I imagine significantly less than under the influence of alcohol. And how many of those drug-related crimes could've been been prevented if drugs weren't illegal in the first place? If its distribution and sale were not in the hands of criminals and gangsters?
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speak it brother!
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In my opinion at the very least the murderers such as serial killers like Charles Manson, Robert Picton,Paul bernardo etc. who have been proven guilty far beyond a reasonable doubt should be executed...
It is a total waste of money to house these monsters in prisons and the money saved could be put to much better use...-
Interestingly, many states have begun to contemplate abandoning the death penalty over the past couple of years not for moral reasons or because of the high incidence of error, but in response to budgetary concerns. It's simply too expensive to execute people, and keeping them in prison for life can be accomplished at a fraction of the cost.
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Am I correct MadameX in assuming you referring to the legal costs ?
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Primarily, yes--but surely you can't mean to suggest that murderers should be executed without appeal? Wouldn't that contradict your "guilty far beyond any reasonable doubt" qualification?
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Yes, executing criminals is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life.
www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/new-voices-death-penalty-too-expensive-overburdene...
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Many of these serial killers proven guilt is so overwhelming that appeals are unnecessary...
Although I am a layman in regards to the legal system I am under the impression that new evidence that could prove innocence or evidence showing the trial was conducted incorrectly resulting in an incorrect verdict must be provided for an appeal to be granted...
Please keep in context the murderers I am saying should be executed as a matter of common sense are murderers such as Robert picton, clifford olson and charles manson etc. -
There are a lot of men who were convicted beyond a shadow of doubt and many years later proven innocent. On what grounds would you execute manson since he actually didn't commit murder himself?
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@jafabrit
manson brainwashed morons into murdering the pregnant Sharon Tate...
lets put aside manson for now and google robert picton and clifford olson... -
Gerry, while your impression is correct what you seem to be unaware of is that reversible error occurs on a very regular basis, and perhaps more frequently in such high-stakes cases as the ones you point to. Appealable issues are not few and far between; it would be surprising to make it through a full murder trial without a couple of them arising.
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"manson brainwashed morons into murdering the pregnant Sharon Tate..."
I know, but are you suggesting that brainwashing others justifies executing them? Or are you limited to just those who actually commit murder themselves?
I don't need to google the others, I know who they are. My opinion stands, they should spend their LIFE in jail and die there. What I think they deserve and what a state should do are two separate things. Do we really want a justice system driven by knee jerk reactions, emotions, hatred, vengeance, eye for an eye, and blood lust. Taliban anyone. -
Do we really want a justice system driven by knee jerk reactions, emotions, hatred, vengeance, eye for an eye, and blood lust.
No, not in Canada. We do NOT seek venegance. No capital punishment here.
Canada's wrongful convictions
Cases where the courts got it wrong
Last Updated: Monday, August 10, 2009
www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/08/06/f-wrongfully-convicted.html -
"No, not in Canada. "We" do NOT seek venegance. No capital punishment here."
I think it should be pointed out that it is possible tt is a citizen and or resident of Canada but it is certain tt is not a spokesperson for Canada and Canadians...
There has never been a referendum in Canada regarding capital punishment...
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Some people just need to be eliminated. -
We should kill anyone with a life sentence. No sense in me paying for his free housing and meals! -
If we could assure that murder convictions (1st degree/life sentence) were not arbitrary--as they are now--then yes -
No one has the right to take another person's life. -
Murderers should get the choice of which limb they would like to have chopped off and 10 years in prison.-
10 years? They should be in prison for LIFE. As for chopping a limb off, what if the person proves to be innocent?
www.innocenceproject.org/know/Search-Profiles.php?check=check&title=&yearCo...
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I am of the opinion that the death penalty must be an option available for the state. Serial killers and the like should be eligible for the death penalty.
I am also of the opinion that we need to pool more resources into appellate courts to decrease the lifetime of a death row inmate. If a criminal has been conclusively proven to be guilty of a crime, and they are a danger to society enough to warrant execution, we should make haste to execute them. -
I don't think murder is justifiable under any circumstances. But that is just me.
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I agree with you.
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Taking someone's life is a sin but what will a person do who's family gets shot by a nut? Would that person be in favor of a death sentence for the shooter?-
laws should not be created from radical emotions
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But sometimes my blood starts to boil when I see people who do terrible terrible things get off easy with only a slap of the wrist.
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Same with me
Our justice system will never be perfect but it should not be taking lives no matter how heinous a crime. -
Owlbarn, our system of justice was designed specifically to avoid such decisions being made by the family of the victim or others personally affected.
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I get that but I don't get the flaws in the system. The system which is suppose to serve justice
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justice is subjective
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Yes if they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they did do it. Then they should leave the court room and go to the chamber. Not waste our tax money on years of legal stuff and feeding them. They have to prove it though and that is hard to do. They have made so many mistakes on it it is scary. -
This is how I think about it. I couldn't push the button,so its not fair to ask someone else to do it. I could however totally torture the mansons,bundys,and any other evil sob that is stealing the oxygen we breathe.
When I say torture,I mean torture!!!
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