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I'm not eat pig because in my religion it is being prevented to eat them. It being stated in our Holy Quran. I ensure that every primary holy book such as Bible also prohibited their follower to eat pig. Try check.

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  1. greencurmudgeon
    Pig taste nice. It cook well.
  2. crpitt
    I love the pig.
  3. hadiey
    You know about worm and parasite in pig meat? I know everyone know but assume that they not very care about.
    1. MissSuzie
      It's worth the risk. Bacon is good!
    2. greencurmudgeon
      Cook pig hot, kill worm.
    3. WillIAm2009
      Well 2 different meats in one
      Yummy!!
    4. timethief
      @hadiey
      (1) I believe your bias against eating pork as a consequence of your choice to adhere to the practices of your religion is self evident. I furthermore feel that your motivation for posting this thread was to provide yourself with a soapbox that you could climb up on and point fingers at those who eat pork and admonish them. In this regard I notice that you dwell only on trichinosis in pork when in fact it occurs in the meat of other animals as well.

      (2) I don't think you have a clear understanding of the separation of the Old testament and New testament therefore, attempting to base your arguments by standing on Old Testament law has led you of course when it comes to understanding Christianity. More to the point, you don't seem to take into account that many citizens in North America, Europe, Scandinavia, and in other counties in the world are not adherents to any religion.

      The restrictions in the Old Testament apply to "the children of Israel". They do not apply to followers of Jesus ie. Christians because Jesus is attributed with the distinction of having led a sinless life and also of having fulfilled all Old Testament law and prophecy on behalf of his followers.

      (3) I believe that the vast majority of people in the world who do eat pork and other meats, including those derived from wildlife are well aware of trichinosis and how to prevent it. Trichinosis, also called trichinellosis, or trichiniasis, is a parasitic disease caused by eating raw or undercooked pork and wild game infected with the larvae of a species of roundworm Trichinella spiralis, commonly called the trichina worm. The few cases in the United States are mostly the result of eating undercooked game, bear meat, or home reared pigs. It is most common in the developing world and where pigs are commonly fed raw garbage.
        How to prevent infection
        * Cook meat products until the juices run clear or to an internal temperature of 170 o F.
        * Freeze pork less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 o F to kill any worms.
        * Cook wild game meat thoroughly. Freezing wild game meats, unlike freezing pork products, even for long periods of time, may not effectively kill all worms.
        * Cook all meat fed to pigs or other wild animals.
        * Do not allow hogs to eat uncooked carcasses of other animals, including rats, which may be infected with trichinellosis.
        * Clean meat grinders thoroughly if you prepare your own ground meats.
        * Curing (salting), drying, smoking, or microwaving meat does not consistently kill infective worms.
    5. busylizzy
      Hadiey - worms and parasites can exist in ANY animal, including fish. It's not just a pork problem.

      Just gotta trash it if it's obviously a bad cut of meat, cook it long and hot enough to get rid of the microscopic stuff, and clean the cooking tools and countertops properly so nothing is spread to future food.
  4. WillIAm2009
    Bacon Butty
    Nothing better!!
  5. hadiey
    No. The worm cannot be destroy in common heat for cooking any meals. It must be really high temperature. Be careful. Eat pig is not the healthy way.
    1. WillIAm2009
      But everything in todays world either kills you, or can save your life!!!
      Who cares, its yummy so i will eat it!
    2. SweetViolet
      Are you a scientist? A nutritionist? A dietician?

      Or do you just cherry-pick the things discovered by science, accepting the stuff that supports your own beliefs (pork has worms therefore it is bad) and rejecting the stuff that doesn't support those beliefs (high temperature cooking kills those worms, and factory-farmed pork is unlikely to have them anyway)?

      Can you not tell by the kinds of responses you are receiving that a majority of BC members are rather offended by your choices of subject matter and how you present them? Perhaps you could try a topic that does not relate, directly or indirectly, to your religion? That's what most of us do here.
    3. JonnyDunMind
      I believe this may be because of misunderstanding of an urban legend, Is this because of seeing the videos of people pouring coke on pork?
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBAG0KPLcs
    4. inbusiness
      Eaten pork all my life and has not caused any problems - this is just mumbo jumbo to me!
  6. crpitt
    I checked my holy book......

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    1. roentarre
      Simply amazing holy books. I can smell bacon through the monitor to my nostrils!
    2. wagerwitch
      Bacon - BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACON...

      You know that dog that runs around screaming Bacon?

      that's ME.

      Crunchy Crispy bacon...

      Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon...

      Saliva drool...
    3. crpitt
      Please be respectful over my holy books.
    4. wagerwitch
      I am one of the most devout followers of your religion there....

      Oh Holy Bacon - thou dost taste divine
      Leaving Crunchy Dribbles on lips of mine
      I savor you in Glory so Clear
      And bow down to you when near
      I crunch, and drool as each hallejujah screams
      I even find you amongst my dreams
      Oh bacon, bacon, my God Of Love
      Forgive me - I've never enough!
      My sin is great, I lick the grease
      Oh bacon oh bacon - hear my pleas
      In my pan, unto crispy strips
      Oh bacon for you my saliva drips!

      I give you good homage - my bacon, My lord
      I just wish that more I could afford...
      I adorn you with lettuce and tomatoes so juicy
      I'd give you all - my goods, you see
      If only you'd understand my desire for thee!

      O Bacon - Holy Bacon..

      My Crispt delight.
      Please be with me unto the light!
  7. jafabrit
    You are not of course speaking for ALL muslims, just for the orthodox one's, the born again one's or the fundamentalist one's, right?
    Just that I know quite a few muslims who enjoy a bacon buttie now and again and quite a few non muslims who wouldn't touch pork.

    And please spare me the litmus test on what a real muslim is, because there is nothing more nauseating than fundies lecturing a fellow believer on what a real christian, jew or muslim is.

    I do occasionally enjoy a bacon buttie, but I don't begrudge, judge, belittle or criticize the choices of others when it comes to their culinary tastes/needs or desire to follow their religious conscious.
  8. nothingprofound
    No, I don't eat meat period. I like animals too much, and I think it's unhealthy.
  9. GusGITForestry
    Pig eaters must respect no pig eaters. No pig eaters must respect pig eaters. Otherwise we all become intolerant sons of a pig
    1. jafabrit
      lol! good one!
    2. timethief
      @Gus
      Well said!
    3. busylizzy
      RFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  10. Svelmoe
    Bacon. That's why I eat pork.

    Pork meat is soooo good when cooked properly.
  11. stellak
    Im a pork enthusiast. Bacon is amazing and my specialty is pork loin in a garlic-rosemary sauce...yummy

    If you get your pork meat from a trustworthy provider I dont think theres much risk.
  12. dbowles1017
    I had some this morning.
  13. gamecherry
    Bacon is meat candy...or at least that's what my t-shirt says
    1. dbowles1017
      meat candy, I like it.
  14. mikeny07
    I don't eat meat that often anymore. I like pasta since I am Italian.

    We would have a huge food shortage in world though if nobody ate animals.

    It is also pretty hard to get calories from other foods besides meat. You would have to eat more of them. Pasta is not as fulling as a hamburger is. So then you would have a pasta shortage.
  15. dosox
    Pork is tasty but now I don't eat pork.
    It's good to be with vegetables
  16. SweetViolet
    I eat pork because I enjoy it. I particularly like smoked pork and one of my favourite meals is a New England Boiled Dinner, made with a smoked pork shoulder.

    My favourite sandwich is cappacola (a pork cold cut) and provolone on an onion roll or soft sour dough bread. And pork bangers with mashed potatoes is another favourite of mine.

    I am not a big bacon fan, primarily because I don't like meat fat, but Canadian bacon is delish. Pork spareribs with sauerkraut is an old family favourite, and my grandfather both butchered the pig and made the sauerkraut. YUM!

    Another good thing about pork is lard...it is just not possible to make a truly fine pie crust without real lard...they call it "varkvet" here in South Africa..."pig fat." It is also an essential ingredient in making the best tortillas.

    The pig is a feast on feet. You don't know what you are missing!
  17. FreakSmack
    Cooking doesn't kill worms in pork? Pork is pretty big in America. I hear a lot about how people from other countries think Americans are fat and lazy. Worms make you skinny. Therefore, if cooking didn't kill the worms in pork, we would be alled skinny lazy Americans.
  18. BetsyIckes
    Well At one time pigs were considered an unclean animal. How Christians got to eating them, I don't know.
    1. SweetViolet
      Back in the day, dogs were also considered unclean. Jews (except ultra-orthodox) and Christians have largely gotten over it, but many Muslims continue to feel that way. I stopped going to a Muslim optometrist because she freaked out the day I came in carrying my little Maltese dog. You would have thought the devil himself had come in with me!

      My present optometrist has no such superstition...I think she eats pork, too.
    2. FreakSmack
      Christians eat pork because Christ said it was a creature created by God. And that all creatures created by God were good. That's one of the reasons the Rabbi's had a problem with Christ, and it's why many people eat Ham for Easter. I asked this question to a minister because I never understood why we celebrated Easter (Christ being a jew) with pork. I knew the real reason is because in the old days salt cured (country) hams were done curing in the early spring, and it's the first social meal of spring, but I wanted to see what the religious reason was.
  19. Rozie818
    Every thing tastes better with bacon
    also
    Sausage, Peppers and Onions Oh My!
  20. hadiey
    I just to share and remind all of you that consuming pork can lead to some desease. Here i attached a url that explained the prohibition of eating pork. jewhampshire.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/christians-who-dont-eat-pork/
    1. jafabrit
      thanks but I don't need the reminder hadiey, at my age and after years of cooking I don't need a lecture from someone who has a religious agenda about food.
    2. carsonfb
      Eating any meat without properly cooking it can pose health risks. Thats why I make sure all of my animal products - except sashimi of course as it wouldn't be sashimi then - are thouroughly cooked.

      Also, the Holy Bible doesn't prohibit me from eating anything, although there is a verse about not eating things in front of those that it would offend.
    3. BetsyIckes
      A lot of good info
  21. hadiey
    Not a religious but fact you know. "The cold hard truth is consuming pork and shellfish regularly can guarantee you an early trip to the grave. Pork and shellfish rank near the top of the list as some of the worst foods you can put into your body right along with trans fats, refined sugar, and artificial sweeteners" said Greg Ciola, writer of NewsWithViews.com.

    Just to share please read: www.newswithviews.com/Ciola/greg8.htm
    1. SweetViolet
      Do you know the difference between a junk science site and a peer-reviewed journal?

      I do internet research for a dietitian who writes articles for magazines and is presently researching an article for a peer-reviewed journal. I know the difference, as the work I do depends on it.

      Trust me on these three points:

      1) shrimp are high in cholesterol but if not from contaminated waters and properly cooked, not harmful to eat

      2) pork is no more dangerous to eat than beef, lamb, or chicken, assuming the pig was fed proper food, raised cleanly, and the meat is cooked to well-done.

      3) the site you mention is a junk science site; anything published there should not be believed until and unless the information is corroborated through a legitimate site.
  22. Sam1982
    Eat them before they eat you I say - And if you don't eat them, its most likely your neighbour will. So if pigs were the last consumable food left in the world you'd end up going hungry.
  23. cookingasshole
    I LOVE pig. It is a magical animal that tastes delicious!
    1. carsonfb
      Simpson's reference FTW!
  24. radioflyer1980
    The arguments here have convinced me. I'm swearing off pork and switching to Soylent Green
    1. carsonfb
      You do know, Soylent Green is people right? Thought so, just checking.
    2. NatetheGrate
      Soylent Green is people? Get out of here!
    3. hatingtherain
      Soylent Green is PEOPLE????!!!
  25. Sebastyne
    I'm not a big pig eater, but I do have it on an occasion. Love pig liver though, it has a lot more kick to it than cow liver, most people prefer cow though.

    And as far as worms and other nasties go, I haven't had an infection yet, and eating chicken is more dangerous in that sense. Even if you do get worms, it's nothing that a couple of tablets won't take care off.

    Read Timethief reply though, if you understand.
    1. carsonfb
      I agree, chicken is more dangerous given its propensity for picking up microbial life.
  26. hadiey
    Here i take a few of comment from other about pork:

    Pork is Harmful to health, scientifically
    Pigs fat is the only type of fat known to stay in the body which will causes hart diseases / increase in cholesterol / and keeps u warm if u live anywhere cold ( that why people in Europe, Alaska, Russia and the Rockey Mountains ), people who live in hotter areas eat Hog and any why it has the same effect

    Something else Would u enjoy eating an animal that loves and enjoys bathing or playing in its own manure. Extremely YUCK.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    well muslims and jews dont eat it as ordained by God.. it also said in the bible not to eat it and I couldnt find where Jesus abolished that law.. only that he came to uphold the laws. so Christians shouldnt eat it also.. I tried to research why God wouldnt allow pork meat.. I found that it is similar to human meat in composition.. (dont know how that would effect us) I know cows got mad cow disease by consuming their own meat.. so maybe we get crazy by eating pork.. Also pigs are known to carry numerous parasites that even in high heat cooking doesnt kill them out. In the old days there werent meat thermometers to test the meat.. And also these days, how are you sure your pork hotdog or pizza made by a vendor outside isnt cooked past the point of killing out all parasites.. ewww! yuck! stomach worms..
    1. carsonfb
      Pigs don't enjoy playing in their own manure. They actually are rather clean animals contrary to the false stereotype. Have you ever visited a pig farm, or talked with a pig farmer?

      Also, in the New Testament of the Holy Bible gets rid of all of the Kosher laws. Read Paul's letters. Also, read the book of Acts.
    2. SweetViolet
      Hadiey, do you have any idea how ignorant this comment of yours is??

      I do not mean "ignorant" as in stupid, I mean "ignorant" as in what you believe and have written here indicates that you are ignorant of the facts.

      Pig fat does not do as you say...digestion doesn't work that way. ALL animal fats are less healthy for the human body than vegetable fats: your body cannot tell pork fat from beef fat, and it processes them all the same. Lamb and mutton, by the way, are very fatty meats...very high in fat and cholesterol. My husband has high cholesterol and his diet restricts his intake of lamb and mutton, but lean pork is OK.

      PLEASE...go to Google and look up some REAL (not junk) scientific information about foods before you post more of this kind of ignorance. I suspect you are much more intelligent than your grossly misinformed posts make you out to be.
  27. hadiey
    SIX REASONS
    why I do not eat Pork and Shrimp Print Page

    Christians who adhere to the Bible's health guidelines, especially those found in Leviticus 11, are sometimes accused of being "arbitrary" in their decisions about which Old Testament laws are relevant to Christians under the New Covenant. Is that true? What do I refrain from eating pork and shrimp?

    REASON 1

    In Mark 7, Jesus makes it clear that spiritual "cleanness" is not affected by what goes into your mouth and stomach. But does that mean God doesn't care what you put in your body or how you take care of it? By abstaining from those meats listed as unclean in the Bible, I make a statement about God: I believe God cares about the whole person: spirit, soul and body!

    REASON 2

    It seems logical to me that God would not provide such an elaborate categorization in Leviticus 11 of those animals which are clean vs. unclean unless the distinction had some basis in physical reality. Many of the animals labeled as "unclean" are primarily scavengers. They do not have the kind of multiple digestive system that the cud-chewers do, so the poisons that they consume go directly into their flesh. Only the unclean animals are regular hosts to such parasites as the trichina worm.

    Isn't it amazing that almost every cookbook notes that you should always be extra careful to fully cook pork to a well-done state, but they never mention that their unspoken reason is so that you will be sure to kill the trichina worms in their little cysts!

    It is an accepted fact that much of the pork in America, even with all our "modern" health precautions, probably contains trichina. Health authorities also warn against eating shell fish at certain times of year because they are poisonous then. They don't bother to mention that the shellfish have the same scavenging habits all year long that causes this problem. Trichinosis and possible poisoning is bad enough, but the unclean animals are host also to much more serious problems for humans. The AIDS virus and other serious diseases may have been spread by humans eating contaminated monkeys and/or other unclean animals.


    By abstaining from those animals listed as unclean in the Bible, I am making another statement about the nature of God: I do not believe God is capricious and arbitrary.

    REASON 3

    All of the same reasoning about "law and grace" which some attempt to apply to "do away" with the Sabbath and Holy Days is also used to "do away" with any notice of the distinction of unclean meats. By abstaining from unclean meats, I am making an effort to be consistent in the way I view the issues of law and grace: What I eat or don't eat doesn't "earn" me salvation. It doesn't make me "more spiritual" than the next person. It doesn't "earn Brownie Points" with God. It just makes sense to me to accept God's word on what He created to be used for food.

    REASON 4

    God did not first make the distinction among animals known at Mount Sinai. Noah knew of the distinction centuries before the "Law" was given on Mount Sinai-and long before Israel (Jacob) started the family later known as the nation of Israel. Noah took seven pairs of each clean animal and only one pair of each unclean animal on the ark. I see no reason to think that the distinction was created just at the time of the Flood. It would seem most logical that it had been made at creation-Abel sacrificed animals. His sacrifice was acceptable to God. Given all the other evidence in scripture, I cannot imagine that he sacrificed a pig! It makes sense to me that this distinction, which didn't "start" with the giving of the Old Covenant, isn't "ended" by the coming of the New.

    REASON 5

    Only clean animals were sacrificed to the Eternal. Sacrificial animals all represented Christ. Under the Law, sheep, goats, cattle, doves and pigeons were the only animals sacrificed. But Noah sacrificed one of every kind of clean animal at the end of the Flood, so in one way, you might say they all can represent Christ. Given:

    The principle of sacrificing only clean animals
    The fact that the priests and the people ate parts of the sacrifices
    The fact that Jesus said his disciples are to "eat his flesh"
    For me there is a symbolism in abstaining from unclean meats year around that is similar to the reason for eating unleavened bread during one season of the year. Eating only clean meats represents for me "taking in" only the pure truth of Jesus, not feasting on a hodgepodge of false doctrines and pagan symbolism, and accepting and following false prophets and false messiahs.

    REASON 6

    No one really believes everything is good for food! We all have our own list of "abominable" foods-for most folks in America, that would include dogs, cats, horses, spiders, centipedes, etc. The reasoning of some folks on eating unclean meats is the same as it is for deciding to observe the pagan holidays - " I don't have to keep any days God listed in the Bible... but I can keep other days for all my own reasons." Likewise, they may say, " I can eat anything I want to, but here's the list of what I don't want to."

    I believe it makes sense to have my list of "abominable things" be the same as God's rather than invent my own.


    Written by: Pam Dewey
    1. carsonfb
      In response to reason 3.

      I support you in your decision to avoid what your faith considers to be unclean. Many of the people on BC though don't view pork as unclean. Each religion has its own list of forbidden actions.

      I am sure that even pastafarians have things that are taboo, but I am not familiar enough with their religion to speculate.
    2. carsonfb
      In response to reason 6.

      I would mostly agree with your assessment. Every culture has their own list of things that they - in general - would not eat. And, for the most part, you have nailed down what many Americans consider inedible.

      However, we are only this picky because we do have such abundance. If food were more scarce, I'm sure that many of these animals would become food. For instance, due to shortages during World War II, horse meat was sold in America.
    3. toothfairynotes
      Hadiey, do you eat chicken then?
    4. wagerwitch
      You do realize of course, the reasons why a LOT of BIBLICAL laws were placed into effect?

      Because a group of people got sick after eating pork... They had trichinosis - and BACK THEN - they just didn't know how to cook the meat properly - nor did they know it was important to cook the meat properly.

      So a lot of folks got sick - and they decided "PORK IS UNCLEAN" - so it became law.

      A LOT of rules/laws came into play the same way --- The lack of understanding about something, people getting sick or superstitions.

      I've always wondered why some folks cannot clearly see that...

      Times change - the laws of the land change - so should God's Rules - if he is a God of these Times.
    5. DramaQueenGK
      Let's see if I have this right: You're telling me to give up bacon, ham, Itlian sausage, pork chops, spare ribs, pulled pork, smoked ham hocks, shrimp, oysters, clams, mussels, crab and lobster???? Not a chance buddy, not a chance. I'm pushing 70 and have eaten these foods all my life. I am in perfect health and feel great. As a serious cook I know that there is no longer a danger of trichonosis from eating uncooked pork, and all of the information now tells us to cook pork til it's just barely pink in the center. Been doing that for 5 years and I'm still here. I AM NOT GIVING UP PORK PRODUCTS OR SHELLFISH.
  28. MarriedMayhem
    My husband is Muslim and I am not. He doesn't eat pork and I do. He has never asked me not to eat it and he never will. I understand his reasons for not eating pork however I choose to make my own decisions. Why has it caused an argument between people? It's kinda weird. =)
    1. carsonfb
      Well said.

      I would not suggest that hadiey start eating pork as his religion prohibits it. I'm just not sure why he is so adamant that no one else eat pork when their beliefs do not prohibit it.
  29. Avellar
    Well as I don't have a "holy book" that I follow I believe I will continue to love Pork in all it's many glorious forms.

    =)
    1. wagerwitch
      Bacoooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!
  30. Bullgrit
    You know, where I'm from, pork bbq is a religion unto itself.
    1. carsonfb
      lol

      That also describes where my wife is from.
  31. MadMadMargo
    Pork.....tastes good.
    Bacon.....tastes good.

    -John Travolta, Pulp Fiction
  32. Rozie818
    If this is the Pam Dewey your talking about
    youall.com/oasisministries/about.htm
    Looks like she could use some pork.
  33. gerryPlanetEarth
    Nobody has mentioned the scientific evidence linking eating pork to becoming infected with the swine-flu virus...
    1. wagerwitch
      Uhm you gotta be kidding me - RIGHT?
    2. gerryPlanetEarth
      On a serious note the cruel manner pigs are treated on the mega pig farms is an embarrassment to the human race and cannot be healthy...

      Please buy your pork from free range producers...
  34. acousticguitarist
    "I'm ouuta here"

    1. acousticguitarist
      first they want to eat me... and now they reckon I've got flu
  35. needmyblog
    every meat that is undercooked is risky to eat so make sure to cook it right. easy as that. but if you don't want to eat pork because of the religious beliefs than that's another story. why do you even ask that question since u dont eat it yourself. :/ Obviously we all eat pig because it tastes really good :))
  36. bettieblogger
    you have every right not to consume something that is against your beliefs and it's fine for you to state that but to come back with all the reasons the rest of us should not eat it, is bit insulting ... to each thier own I say.

    No one should shove anything down another's throat, whether it be bacon or words of so called wisdom.
  37. JoelKlebanoff
    If I followed the strictures of the tribe I belong to (I don't), I wouldn't eat pork or shellfish (I do).

    I love shrimp and lobster. Any ridiculous rules that say I can't eat them aren't worth following. I also really like barbecued pork ribs, but I've cut back on those to try to leave a little bit of room in my arteries. As to the other pork products, I can take them or leave them, but I enjoy eating them to piss the hell out of people who say I shouldn't.
    1. SweetViolet
      Joel, FYI, shrimp is very high in cholesterol. When my husband was diagnosed with high cholesterol we were given a diet sheet and, to his dismay and my surprise, shrimp is one of those things that he can now only eat infrequently and in small quantities, although lobster is not similarly restricted. Mutton and lamb are also to be eaten infrequently and in small quantities...but lean pork is not similarly restricted.
    2. JoelKlebanoff
      Damn! I guess I haven't got long to live.

      All kidding aside, I guess I'm not genetically prone to cholesterol problems. My doctor has stopped ordering cholesterol tests every time I get a checkup. (I usually go for an "annual" checkup every 18 to 24 months. ) A while back he started ordering a cholesterol test only every second time. He's alternated between telling me that I have the "cholesterol levels of a vegetarian" and the "cholesterol levels of a marathon runner". I'm not anywhere close to being either. Go figure.
    3. carsonfb
      @SweetViolet

      Thanks for the heads-up on shrimp, I had always assumed that it was low in cholesterol. Is this mainly due to the way that it is prepared (i.e. deep-fried, scampi, etc.) or is it something inherent to shrimp itself?
  38. KiefersCorner
    No I don’t eat pork for the same reason I wouldn’t eat a vultures, their scavengers.

    And a pig is one of the worst and designed to be able to eat things that would kill other animals.

    As long the pig you eat is contained and fed properly they are ok to eat, but we live in a world motivated by profit and some people could care less what they feed their pigs.

    The risk isn’t worth the reward as far as im concerned.
    1. SweetViolet
      You won't eat pork just because of the way its brain is wired? The pork you find in your supermarket is from factory farmed pigs that are fed a scientifically balanced diet and never even have the opportunity to scavenge.

      Tell me, do you eat shrimp or lobster or crab? Because they actually DO scavenge!
  39. toothfairynotes
    hadiey, do you eat chicken then?
  40. davedol
    Hadiey might be right. Pork and beef and meat in general are poison. I have been pondering becoming a vegetarian. I know some people whom are vegans and they make a lot of sense. Imagine…eating meat really is consuming a dead carcass.

    I love bacon. I love burgers and ribs. But after I started to eat veggies, I found it hard to digest meat. And there is a philosophical element to this…I like animals. Animals are my friends.
    1. GusGITForestry
      Does that mean I should also imagine eating lettuce is eating alive beings... or vegetable carcasses?
  41. davedol
    There are vegans who eat only fruit that fell from trees. They don't want to hurt plants. I’m not quite that sensitive. I don’t know if I can actually give up eating my animal friends. I like bratwurst. Or known by its other name…mystery meat. I plan on cutting most meat from my diet without being extreme about it.
    1. SweetViolet
      I work for a dietitian.

      I STRONGLY suggest that you do some serious research about how to stay healthy while removing meat from your diet...and stay away from junk science sites.

      One of the most common health problems in vegetarians is anemia. Iron from vegetable sources, such as spinach, is not readily absorbed by the body as is iron from meat sources. So, you may ingest enough spinach to equal the iron in a piece of red meat, but your body is going to excrete most of it.

      If you restrict your intake of meat, it is important to learn about amino acids, which foods contain which ones and how to combine them at every meal so that you are eating complete proteins. No vegetable product contains complete proteins, you can only get that from animal foods. If you eat cheese, yogurt and eggs, you will get complete proteins, but you must then pay attention to your cholesterol intake.

      If you decide to eventually go vegan, please be aware that a vegan diet is deficient in fat and Vitamin B12. B12 is only available in two forms: animal-based foods or supplements. Lack of B12 in the adult causes brain dysfunction; lack of B12 in the foetus or nursing infant can cause retardation, lack of brain growth, even death. The foetus and nursling both require considerable fat in the diet for the brain to grow and develop: vegan women who are pregnant or nursing have little fat and no B12 to pass on to their infants unless they supplement both.

      Our bodies are designed to be omnivorous...our nutrition requirements tell us that...and we do ourselves a grave disservice when we eat unnaturally.
    2. jafabrit
      anemia is a concern for my daughter who has been a vegetarian since she was six. At 25 she is very healthy but yes very cognizant of what to eat to maintain a good balance, and get enough iron.
  42. hadiey
    Please refer this and you will find an argument about the pork, pig and eating pork.

    xcallibur.blogspot.com
    1. SweetViolet
      Hadiey, PLEASE STOP POSTING THE LINK TO YOUR BLOG!!! It is against BC rules. You are only allowed to do that if you put your discussion in the shameless promotion category. For the General Discussion, that is prohibited.
  43. rfburnhertz
    I eat piggie and lot's of it.
    There is no dead animal in the world I would rather chew upon.
    1. wagerwitch
      Chicharonnes --- BAAAAACON!!!

      Yum - the world is Wonderful with Bacon in it!
  44. jeremyjanson
    I don't like it as much as Beef but it's a little cheaper.
    1. rfburnhertz
      I like it so much that my kids and my wife will avoid asking me what I want for dinner.
      The answer is obvious... bacon!
    2. jeremyjanson
      For me it's pretty much always steak, burger, or something else involving a cow. I'm a "cow-boy"! Get it!
  45. JonnyDunMind
    I ate nothing but a sausage roll last yesterday.
    I then had a dream where I ended up strangling a pig that was wearing leather all over, like a Piggy gimp costume, with a metal tail it used to whip itself, by swinging its bum. (S&M gear fo sho).
    I had already killed it twice, this was its last life. Took ages and didnt die, it was horrible.
  46. JonnyDunMind
    And by the way, I completely respect the fact that you don't eat pork because of your religion.
    I live in a very multi cultural city, and have learnt so much in the past year
  47. hadiey
    I do not stress on my religion. But i stress on the unhealthy of eating pork. It is not focusing on religion. Please be alert about this matter. I try to fugure out what the pork is unhealthy because of what reason.


    First reason might be my religion, but others factor is about health fact that forced my argument on eating pork is unhealthy.

    xcallibur.blogspot.com
    1. SweetViolet
      Now that is just not true.

      Your religion says you can't eat pork. Fine. You can believe what you want, even if it is based on fallacy and untruth, that's your prerogative.

      But when you try to justify that prohibition by making it look like your religious prohibition is based on anything other than an ancient, outdated prohibition from an invisible being, then you are sinking into dishonesty.

      Eating pork that was raised, butchered and cooked in a healthy manner is no more unhealthy than eating any other meat. You are allowing your prejudice to get in the way of recognizing and accepting scientific fact.

      Your blog is not an authority and your beliefs are not facts. It is inappropriate to post a link to your blog in the General Discussion forum unless you are posting a link to a specific entry that deals directly with the subject at hand. PLEASE STOP POSTING THE LINK TO YOUR BLOG!!! We know how to find it if we want to go read it.

      It is immoral and unethical to promote a belief as a fact. You have offered nothing but your oft-repeated belief in the dangers of pork but no facts from reputable sources. Go to PubMed or a similar source and find an article that backs you up. Then I...and a lot of the people on this forum...will pay better attention to what you have to say on this. Until then, please give it a rest. Properly cooked pork is healthier than mutton or lamb.
  48. HollytheHousewife
    I eat pork bc I live in memphis 10 and if u don't eat pork,or worse yet can't smoke it right then u just don't belong here.
    1. HollytheHousewife
      How about everyone eats whatever they wanna eat,and b happy get full,then go call sen. Wicker's office. And tell em' to give HOLLYtheHOUSEWIFE, her congressional invite.....while ur @ it u should go on and bump my blog
      HOLLYtheHOUSEWIFE.wordpress.com
      Sen.#662)429-1002
      I luv ya 4 ever if ya help me out
  49. Selvia
    I am sure you would have heard the saying " One man's meat is another man's poison". It is up to individual to choose and eat what they like. Life is short, let everyone eat and enjoy what they want and like. It is free world. We must respect each other as an individual not judging a person by what they eat.

    Religion is a very sensitive and it best not be included in disscuission like this. We must learn to respect each others religion. Some religion uses pork meat for their functions so this topic is not right
  50. hadiey
    Ok. I admit that. I just to remind you all about the danger of eating pork. JUST A REMINDER. IF YOU HAVE A DISEASE AND CAUSE OF CONSUMING PORK AND YOU GET SICK..PLEASE REMEMBER MY NOTES. OK...BE HEALTHY AND STRONG.
    1. Selvia
      Your intention may be good but including the regilion is uncalled for.
    2. SweetViolet
      EATING PORK IS NOT DANGEROUS.

      Like any other meat, if the animal is healthy and the meat properly butchered, stored and cooked, IT IS NOT DANGEROUS!!
    3. wagerwitch
      Bbbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccccccccccccccooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnn!

      There is NOTHING better.
    4. jafabrit
      Hadiey, you keep making some strange assumption that people here are not educated on the issues of food, namely pork. We all make calculated choices in this world and do just fine.

      And frankly I don't detect an ounce of sincerity in your advice for our well being.
  51. evilsquirrel01
    i don't really know. I'd like to stop though.
  52. rosie2305
    OMG! A cannibal tribe in New Guinea were reported to have said that eating human flesh tasted just like pork! Now there’s a thought!
    1. Selvia
      I watched a clip a few day ago. Cant believe my eyes
    2. JonnyDunMind
      Tastes like pork, but sweeter. Just about the sweetest meat,
  53. hadiey
    sELVIA CAN YOU SHARE THE CLIPS..I ALSO KNOW THAT DNA PIG ARE SAME LIKE HUMAN DNA.
    1. Selvia
      Sorry deleted as soon as I watched it. I dont think you should watch it
    2. JonnyDunMind
      much of human dna is similair to cows, and trees.
    3. carsonfb
      @JohnnyDunMind

      And, apparently, bananas.
  54. hadiey
    where can i find the clip.I want to seek the truth so i need to see it.
    1. crpitt
      Just had some bacon, thought you would want to know.
    2. SweetViolet
      I had a ham sandwich...it was lovely!
    3. crpitt
      I shall have a ham sandwich for lunch I think
    4. SweetViolet
      I am making Chili Verde for dinner tonight...a stew of potatoes, roasted green chilies (the mild ones) and pork tenderloin cubes. It is SO good!!
    5. carsonfb
      @SweetViolet

      That does sound good, I'd be interested in the recipe.
  55. jkhanok
    I worked with P.I.C once. the Pig Improvement Company.... I kid you not

    www.pic.com/

    "Never Stop Improving Pigs" was the slogan
  56. Rozie818
    I'm planning on grilled Virgina Ham Roll Ups stuffed with Portabella Mushrooms, swiss cheese and red onion. Topped with crushed Pineapples over brown rice and maybe a side order of pigs knuckles. (kidding on the knuckles)
    1. SweetViolet
      My dad's an old farmer...one of his favourite snacks when I was a kid were pickled pig's feet. Seriously!
    2. Bullgrit
      I found pig's feet and pig ears and other "interesting" parts to eat at the Piggly Wiggly grocery store in my hometown.

      www.totalbullgrit.com/2008/06/19/whole-hog/

      As much as I love pork meat, there're some parts I won't eat.
  57. Rozie818
    My mom used to eat those parts, I never went for it, chicken necks was as far as I went when it came to off the menu parts.
    In Brooklyn they sell the pig's head whole. That must make for a great centerpiece.
    1. jafabrit
      My husband loves all this kind of stuff, including tripe.
      Considering what it is and that it is thought to be unfit for human consumption(worse than pig meat) I find it laughable the health arguments against pork and yet it is very popular in muslim countries.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripe

      and let's not forget raw meat dishes in iran and other muslim countries (kibbeh nayeh).
  58. Qaisar
    its not allowed to eat in my religion
    1. jafabrit
      One can respect that, but trying to convince others it is wrong for health reasons doesn't fly in this day and age, and really has anyone looked at the types of meat people eat around the world, like grubs, bugs and spiders.
      www.weird-food.com/weird-food-bugs.html
      Monkey toes or sheeps brain
      www.weird-food.com/weird-food-mammal.html
    2. AzzX
      Eating a Pig is no different than consuming the meat from a Cow, Sheep, Goat or Chicken in health terms - in fact it is probably healthier.
    3. carsonfb
      @jafabrit

      I hear that grubs, and many other insect larva taste nutty.
  59. footiam
    Pork. Beef. Mutton. They are all meat. Leave them around for a few days and they have worms.
    1. SweetViolet
      Nope.

      Leave them around for a few days and they get maggots. Very different from worms.
  60. busylizzy
    My religion does not prohibit eating pork so, for me, it is not a sin and I will no burn in Hell for doing so.

    My impression is that thousands of years ago, people got sick from eating pork (trichanosis) and decided it was best just to avoid pork completely.

    Why do I eat pork? Because it tastes good.
  61. Avellar
    WOW this top is still going? Strange how something as simple as a person's choice to eat or not to eat something can cause such a response.

    And hadiey, you have yet to provide anything of substance that would make me want to stop eating pork for health reasons. I don't mean to be rude, but your religious point of view on a foods that should or should not be eaten means little to me.

    BBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOON!!!!
  62. sensitivemuse
    I'm having pork chops for dinner, anybody want some
    1. Avellar
      ME ME ME ME ME!
    2. SweetViolet
      I had four boneless loin chops and cut them into cubes and made chili verde with them. It is almost ready and the aroma is making my mouth water! Maybe I should post the recipe on my cooking blog?
    3. sensitivemuse
      yes! please do! that sounds really good.
    4. SweetViolet
      Check the cooking blog tomorrow...I'll put it up for you.

      We had it for dinner tonight and it was wonderful!
  63. acegem
    NO! I only eat pork....
  64. JonnyDunMind
    No kidding, yesterday I had a really messed up pork eating dream, and find it a huge coincidence that this discussion happened today.

    neuraltv.blogspot.com/2009/06/dream-sexy-sausage-that-would-not-die.html
  65. lisleman
    religion and pork - I think the religion part gets the comments but then the pork part makes me hungry.

    Regarding the religion part - anybody believe that some long ago Pope declared the fish only Fridays to stimulus the fishing industry? Fish stimulus package of the Holy Roman Empire.
  66. ArsenicCookies
    I will eat just about any meat except human. I don't care and no one else should care what I eat either
  67. pinkmonkeychatter
    I hate porkchops and sausage, but I could eat my weight in bacon.
  68. disabledworld
    Me like eat piggy piggy meat - bacon, ribs, crackling, hmmmm juicy.
    1. carsonfb
      Don't forget BBQ pork rinds!
  69. KiefersCorner
    This is for the not so Sweet Violet,

    If you had taken the time to read my response properly you would have noticed I said it was ok to eat pork that was contained and fed properly.

    And I won’t eat pork because it can be diseased and look perfectly healthy, just because you trust the farmer to do the right thing I don’t.

    I have seen factory pig farms most are run by good honest people but some are run by people I wouldn’t trust with my back turned.

    You seem to think that because something is in a supermarket it is good to eat LOL

    You want some proof about pork here it is

    www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/opinion/12kristof.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=methicillin...

    As for the proof about what can happen to you by eating pork from a hog that has been allowed to scavenge read this?

    wiki.medpedia.com/Trichinellosis

    P.S. No I don’t eat crabs, lobsters, or shrimp
  70. Men101
    Bacon and ham are sssooo tasty.
  71. Selvia
    Just cant believe it. Had a good night sleep, woke up and this topic is still going on
  72. hadiey
    I think it is hot topic. pork, pig, bacon, lard, ham and so on. Is it healthy when we eat the animal than fully with fat? such as lard. I think in pyramid diagram,you need to reduce eating fat regularly. If you all educated person, please think about it.
    1. Selvia
      Are you judging our education by the food we eat?
    2. SweetViolet
      You do not know what you are talking about.

      ALL animal fats are less healthy than vegetable fats.

      Your body does not know or care which animal the saturated fat you eat came from. To your body, pig fat, beef fat, lamb fat, butter, and cream are all just saturated fat.

      Lamb and mutton are more fatty, in the muscle tissue, than pork. Any meat animal that is raised unhealthily, butchered improperly, stored incorrectly, and/or prepared in an improper manner will not be optimally healthy. Properly raised, butchered, stored and prepared, pork is no more dangerous to eat than beef and is less fatty than lamb or mutton.

      Give it up Hadiey...you are wrong and you are just making yourself look more and more foolish with each post. You are smart enough to use the internet and you know enough about science to know about DNA...how about you put your prejudices and biases aside and take a few facts in? Nobody is saying you have to eat pork...I don't eat liver and no amount of telling me how good it is for me will ever see a piece of liver enter my mouth...but I'm not going to sit here and try to sway people with misinformation to get them to stop eating it. I may think it is gross and believe it is unhealthy, but what other people eat is NONE OF MY BUSINESS unless it directly affects me.

      My maid doesn't eat pork. I buy sliced chicken for her sandwiches and warn her which meats in my fridge contain pork so she doesn't accidentally ingest some. It is OK that she doesn't eat pork...her religion forbids it. But neither of us are trying to sway the other one with specious arguments and outright untruths. We just respect each other's eating habits...you might try the same with those of us here.
  73. hadiey
    Not judging on that. I want you to think about our meals. Just want to share. Any comment. Used fact and relevan information that proove that eating pork is healthy.
    1. SweetViolet
      The burden of proof is yours.

      You are the one saying it is unhealthy and it is your responsibility to prove your contention. It is not our responsibility to disprove it.

      So far, you have been unable to do so.
  74. joreel
    LECHON!!!!!!!!!!!!LECHON!!!!!!
  75. noodlemie
    pls stop this useless discussion,as for i see now will go nowhere for both side,the pork lovers and the haters,arguing over something that none of both side want to accept others opinion.for Op,try to warn others,fine but dont be too pushy,for the pork lover,dont mind about him if u disagree.end of the discussion.
  76. wagerwitch
    Bacooooooooooooooooooon

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon...

    Just your friendly announcement from WagerWitch...

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon
  77. hadiey
    Unhealthy food is unhealthy food forever.
  78. noodlemie
    oh for God sake,where's mom?mooom the childrens are keep fighting! stop them pls..
    1. timethief
      Here's an observation. I have noticed that when no one posts to a thread it falls to the bottom of the forum and within and hour it's of the front page.
    2. noodlemie
      i know that very well.we all do i think
  79. HollytheHousewife
    Well hadiey,unhealthy food is unhealthy,but have u really ever stopped and thought about what makes people happy. Maybe someone who eats something that might not be healthy, might make a person happy. Why is it such a big deal? U do know we only have 1 life here on earth? Why do u think GOD,doesn't understand that good food is good food. I mean it doesn't really matter what "RELIGION" u are. Why do you think (our father) wouldn't wanna see a smile on your face?
  80. DramaQueenGK
    IMHO anyone who doesn't eat pork, shrimp, lobster, crabs and oysters is missing out on some mighty good eating.
    Seriously there is nothing that you put into your mouth that is totally safe. We are still breathing so what's the big deal. Live with the fact that you will probably be hit by a bus before you die of food related illness. Life is short, enjoy!
  81. hadiey
    I know..when you eat a healthy food it can make you smile wider than before. hehehe..Every father also want to see their child get healthier life and of course by consuming healthy food.
    1. Selvia
      You dont seem to get what everyone is trying to tell you. let me put in simple words. Your opinion -eating pork is bad. Others love pork. I told you is my earlier post "one man's meat is another man's poison". Why are you still trying to proof your point. It is high time you put a little interest on other people view. I am not going to waste my time with this topic after this.
  82. noodlemie
    congratulation hadiey!to make everyone so'enthusiastic'on your controversial threads(including the darwin one),you're really caught their attention.
  83. wagerwitch
    don't want this thread to die...

    It makes my mouth water... LMAO!

    Baaaaacon!

    I love bacon...

    No.. Really - I LOVE BACON.

    My veins don't - but my mouth does...
  84. hadiey
    When we do a discussion it is better we discuss about some controversial topic. If you discuss something about your routine day, it is not interesting because when we discuss we can know about the fact and other belief. Example, you create a thread like what your favourite food? This is not spread you mind and not exercising you brain.
    1. IntoTheAzureSea
      Not everyone has the energy or the emotional maturity to deal with controversial discussion topics and argue their point in it.
    2. wagerwitch
      Like me.... BAAAAAAAAAAAAACON...

      Oh I love Bacon.
    3. IntoTheAzureSea
      wagerwitch, uhhhhhhhhh you're really one of a kind.

      but that aside, pork is actually a very well loved meat that almost every culture in the world has traditional culinary recipes for.
  85. hadiey
    I know...discussion is open. So everyone have an option to argue or not. It depend on yourselves.
  86. Qaisar
    i dont want to eat it, its not allowed in my releigion islam
    1. SweetViolet
      I respect that.

      My maid's religion doesn't allow her to eat pork and I respect that, too. I make sure she knows which meat products in my house have pork in them so she doesn't accidentally eat some for her breakfast or lunch.

      I further respect the fact that you do not try to sway the rest of us with misinformation about pork...you simply state that, because your religion forbids it, you do not want to eat it.

      Thank you for your honesty and your respect.
  87. freeforyouandmetoo
    I do not eat pig or any animals either. I am 100% vegetarian. Pigs are sweet, don't eat...
  88. lotusb
    I don't eat pig for several reasons. One is that I am a vegetarian, and don't eat any meat. Also, pigs have no purpose...they are little garbage disposals and they should be left to do so, not slaughtered and eaten. Also they have high fat content and are bad for your cirulation. I think ham and bacon smell absolutely delicious...but a lot of things in this world that can kill you are tempting..
    1. SweetViolet
      Actually, Lotus, lamb and mutton are fattier than pork.
    2. lotusb
      Oh, I'm well aware. I didn't say pork is the fattiest, I just said it has a lot of fat. No argument here about that...part of the reason I don't eat any of that crap..lol.
    1. crpitt
      How rude
    1. wagerwitch
      That would be MEEEEEE

      Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacon.

      Yep sirreee Bob - me loves my bacon.

      Gonna go pan fry some back and nibble on it greedily crunching on it like popcorn in this thread....

      Bacon - bacon... Yesss... that's me

      That dog in that commercial.

      Drool.
  89. FredSr2009
    I shouldn’t but I love bar be cue ribs and fried pork chops. I resist for awhile but from time to time I give in and pig out.
  90. DramaQueenGK
    Here's another little tidbit for you hadley: the chicken is the only animal that will and does eat it's own feces. Pass the wings.
    1. shyflower
      I am falling out of my chair, holding onto my sides. LOL!!!
  91. Shiley
    Worms... are a myth. You're talking about the Coke and pork chop thing? My family did that experiment and that is a myth. No worms.

    DNA Humans are animals www.hardcoretruth.com/Human_Animals/ So, I expect our DNA to be similar or close. The only way around it is to go vegan. I'm all good with that my husband wouldn't be. So, we do eat "the other white meat."
    1. wagerwitch
      Coke and Pork Chop???

      Eh??
    2. wagerwitch
      Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

      Well I'm gonna have to try it. LOL!

      I've been making a Cherry Coke Jack Daniel's Ham every year for Thanks Giving - SOOOO Yummy - never saw any worms tho.

      Hmmmm Maybe I should stir more. LOL!
    3. Shiley
      It's just fat. That's all I EVER saw.
  92. jafabrit
    You may not eat it but I wonder how many diabetics use porcine based insulin?
  93. shyflower
    @drama queen -- You are the reason they call senior citizenship the "golden age". You make a nice shine.
    1. DramaQueenGK
      That made my day. Thanks Shyflower.
  94. SillyReviews
    I'm not big on dishes like pork loin, pork chops or piles of bacon in the morning but I do like bacon bits on my salad!
  95. Netty1804
    I do not eat animals at all. They have got a right to live.

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