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Do you KNOW your human rights?
Posted by Nomadic • 11/09/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: article 18, declaration, human rights, un
Universal Declaration of Human Rights sets out 30 articles. WITHOUT going to Wikipedia, how well do you know them?
Is it common sense?
Here is some food for thought:
Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
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I guess not. Sheesh.
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I'd have to look at the document, like I always do, because the list is more extensive than anything codified in my own country's constitution. -
As a nurse student, yeah I actually do. I had to learn about that so when we get to work, we're sure to -not violate any human rights- during practice.
www.nursejendoll.com
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Does it include not being harassed on the street? -
Also... I hope to gawd that they will use gender neutral words in describing human rights.
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Sigh. OK. Look them up then. And then get back to me.
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I don't know them because in my opinion they aren't valid universally. You'd be better off knowing your local constitution. The UN is not going to come to your rescue guns blazing unless you happen to live in a country with lots of oil or large mineral deposits. Even then, if you're living in China or Tibet, forget it.-
gives validity to an argument even at a local level though surely?
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How? Not all countries are members of the UN. Those universal human rights are hardly universal. If anything, such a notion undermines local independence and autonomy. I'm not a fan of the UN and I disagree with notions of positive rights and universal brotherhood because they undermine individual self-reliance. It goes against empirical observation and it's unrealistic. "Blood is thicker than water".
Furthermore, I don't think reciting the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is going to help a resident at Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp any.
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That Article 18 is based on western culture, of course the West believes that the world should compile to their culture, although from traveling the Middle East I can tell you they do not want the problems that the western world has.
I don't get it Nomadic, you say you have traveled in so many countries, but from what you post, I would guess you have not been anywhere, or may be you have "been there" but just don't want to accept the way the world really is—which is selfish and greedy and negative.
I have ran into many people that are confused from what they viewed while traveling, although if a person would take some time to understand the truth of life, then there would be no more confusion, and people trying to fix the world, which is fruitless.-
Woa! She staggers back from sharp blow....the world is what? "selfish and greedy and negative". I admit it, that exists, but there is equal amounts of good too. It's about balance.
I think you need to know a bit more about me before you launch such a personal attack. I have been there, mate, I promise. And I don't just "travel" I do far more than that. But I remain a stubborn optimist.
How about returning to the question - which I am glad has provoked some thought at least. I find article 18 fascinating. The fact that it can be written that humans have a right to freedom of thought. Unless this is the Matrix, surely that is a given? As I work in the realms of "influence" am I denying people this right, but trying to influence thought?
Anyway. Discuss. But don't take ill informed stabs at me. -
That was my impression of the Middle East too. The biggest threat to their culture is the West trying to enforce its own culture on the Middle East. I think globalisation has met its sell-by date and it's time to let each other be.
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I just find it kind of perplexing, and common, among people who have traveled.
Sure the universe is based on choice, but many countries are enslaved under their culture, and that is life. Many countries are dirt poor, which many travelers cannot handle observing, although understanding the truth of Karma, then no more confusion.
Human rights are related to the culture of an area, and the culture is an entity in itself. The Kurdish in Turkey are OK with killing someone if they break the rules. The whole Middle east is OK killing someone if they convert religions. It's their their culture.
Great to remain an optimist, but if a person understood the destiny of this world, the person's optimism would be directed toward individuals instead of trying to change the world that is controlled by wicked selfish people.
Poverty is a fine example, people can do all they want, although their efforts will not change the wheat and rice price from increasing. -
Enlight - What do you find perplexing and common, among people who have traveled? How many people have you met or talked to that have traveled? Do you judge them all the same? You have a thing about Nomads?
A little about me. Briefly if I may. I have lived in Iraq, I have lived in Israel, I have lived in Sri Lanka. I have lived in Slovakia. I have lived in Britain. Not for weeks or months, but for years. I have spent a decent amount of time in South Africa (being married to one for 14 years) and Kuwait. I am far more than a voyeristic traveller. I get it.
I am also not claiming to have the answers, I think you will notice that I have just presented a dicussion topic. I am far more interested in seeing what thoughts are provoked than dissing each others opinions.
But if you must know like poodle, I do believe that the best solutions are largely local. However, I think the basic articulation of human rights, as an academic exercise, not a bad thing. Not damaging.
(Enlight! I just checked your profile and you are a traveller! Self loathing is it? Or just having a tough time with a load of well meaning guys in ponchos and sandals?)-
I meet a lot of travelers that are not fix on trying to change the world.
Although, from my experience some people cannot handle what they observe from traveling and want to fix or change the world, no offense.
From what you have posted in the past it seems like the subject are always geared to changing this world. I could be wrong, it could be just my perception, no offense.
As an example, from what people attempt to do about the poverty, did the wheat price go down, and the answer is NO.
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its a shame that each country and each culture differ in their views of basic human rights. what's game here in the states is not in middle eastern countries. heck, even developed asian countires like china or south korea doesn't practice freedom of speech. a lot of censorship.-
hi bloggernoob. glad someone else is chipping in here. I was beginning to feel perplexed (yes, even me)
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Freedom is not free.People in China have not human right to get safe foods, no human right to choose belief.
see the truth in China,
truthinchina.wordpress.com/ -
i thinks everybody ought to have right to believe and to exercise belief, but this is not a license to impose a belief or ideology to others. the UN document, i think, is excellent in describing an individual's rights. but most governments simply violate human rights.-
Yet it is also an ideology that is being imposed on others.
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Human rights, as laid out in the Universal Declaration, are grounded in Kant's categorical moral imperative.
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."
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I know that, should "the powers that be" decide against it, no one has any "rights," regardless of what any group puts on paper. Human "rights" are a nice idea, but has very little basis in reality. -
Funny you asked that, I just did a piece including it.
I know articles one and seven deal directly with equality under the law, 2 is right to a right to human rights, 3 right to life, 4 free from slavery...7 all men and women are equal under the law, 16 marriage as a fundamental right...
That's all I can remember at the moment, except that the US signed teh treaty in 1998. -
My parents made sure I knew my human rights, civil rights and constitutional rights at a VERY young age. I threatened to sue my second grade teacher and staged a walk out once in jr. high. Some say, I knew too much too soon. -
How do these universal rights apply to someone like Gary McKinnon?
thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/british-hacker-closer-to-facing-trial-...
All he did was practice a little freedom to access of information. You know, our constitutional right to know things. Now he is being deported to America to stand trial for a crime he didn't commit in America - and at the end of the day he did nothing wrong but snooping around.
Is Article 19 going to save Gary?
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. -
human rights? the right to live in a home free from all forms of physical, sexual and emotional abuse. The right to be the unique individual God created you to be. the right to live in safety, free from harm. The right to think your own thoughts, live your own life.
www.cultofdeception.blogspot.com -
Some Short Thoughts on 'Rights'
Rights are a perverse way of making an individual feel that he owes the State something for 'Granting' him/her these rights. In actuality, we are not 'granted' rights at all--We are born free from the womb, and our rights are only trampled on through constrictive laws, economic systems of exploitation and media hypnotism.
Rights are not concessions to be made by the people in power!! We are free individuals from the start, and we don't need to be granted rights at all because we already have them.
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Wrench
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