Blog Catalog Discussion: Do you konw who dalailama is?

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:28:01 -0600

Dalai Lama Beta

iendonesia on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

iendonesia — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:18:14 -0600

Who is dalailama in previous time...???

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:17:18 -0600

I met Liv Tyler in a dream once.

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:37:09 -0600

You know him?

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:36:42 -0600

They're in a similar situation than Tibet, yet the West (America in particular) do not rally behind them when they try to claim their independence from Georgia, mainly because the Russians are. Oh, and they don't have a charming old man in a tunic shaking hands with world leaders rallying for their independence.

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:33:26 -0600

The Lama has no formal schooling. You ask the Lama why Tibet should be independent, and he can't tell you. To look at it in a short-sighted manner, it appears that China invaded a fully autonomous state in the fifties. However, there is much debate over the exact nature of the sovereignty of Tibet.

Technically they've only had any kind of independence from China between 1913 to 1959, and even then Tibet failed to negotiate independence from China (China has never accepted the independence of Tibet, only other nations have). In other words, Tibet has never been able to proclaim its independence from China through either diplomatic nor military means. Tibet has no legitimate reason to claim that its independence from China was threatened by a big bad regime and flying all over the world rallying support from Western countries is not improving the relationship with China.

Tibet has been part of China from the Yuang dynasty (1271–1368). Viewed in this light, the period between 1913 and 1959, during which Tibet was not even truly independent, becomes immaterial. Certainly not material enough to use as a basis for sovereignty.

Within the Asian continent, there are many independent states. Granted, the People's Republic of China is not always happy with this arrangement, but why isn't Tibet following a similar route? That seems reasonable to me, instead of the Oprah Winfrey cult of personality celebrity angle that the Dalai Lama is attempting. News flash: China does not care about the West and right now, the West needs China economically. The way to put pressure on China is not by shaking hands with the likes of Sarkozy, who is a populist scoundrel (also not that clear on the separation of the church and state himself).

Seems like the Lama is using the enemies of my enemy are my friends approach without really being concerned with whom he is dealing, as long as they don't like China.

I hate the lama because he appeals to people's emotions and spirituality and does not rely on reason to better the position of Tibet. He is a theocrat. If L Ron Hubbard declared Scientologists independent from the rest of the world, how seriously would you take him?

If hate is a strong emotion to apply to someone you don't personally know, then surely the opposite emotion of love is just as strong to apply to someone you don't personally know. Seems to me that it is irrational to claim that the Lama is wise, kind and a spiritual leader when he can't solve his own problems.

timethief on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

timethief — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:08:32 -0600

@flamingpoodle
What relevance to the question at hand do those other locations (South Ossetia and Abkhazia Georgia) have to the subject matter in this thread? Perhaps they should also be free. However, the subject in this thread is China, Tibet and the Dalai Lama. So how about sticking to China, Tibet and the Dalai Lama in this thread, and posting your own thread dealing with the other locations?

acousticguitarist on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

acousticguitarist — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:58:30 -0600

he's got beads and a dress, i think anything past that point I can't find a resemblence. It's interesting that you dislike him so much, but that's your choice.

acousticguitarist on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

acousticguitarist — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:57:11 -0600

i think he has done something, and it's an indirect something. He has helped introduce Tibetan Buddhism to the West

weblogian on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

weblogian — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:54:20 -0600

Why free Tibet?

timethief on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

timethief — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:00:19 -0600

@flamingpoodle
Hate is a very strong emotion. Mature people don't usually invest much energy into choosing to hate people that they don't personally know. You usually lay out very logical reasons for the positions you take, so I'm wondering why do you choose to hate him? Please be specific.

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:42:35 -0600

The Llama has not done a single thing that proves to me that he should enjoy respect. He's like Peta in that regard.

If Tibet should be independent, then surely South Ossetia and Abkhazia deserve to be independent from Georgia too?

acousticguitarist on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

acousticguitarist — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:27:00 -0600

i met Chenrezig once in a dream

melindaville on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

melindaville — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:17:45 -0600

He is wise. And very kind.

acousticguitarist on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

acousticguitarist — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:59:17 -0600

he is supposed to be the incarnation of Chenrezig

soregrapes on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

soregrapes — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:59:04 -0600

no he is more like liama, well just kidding on the lighter side of life why not take look at his picture here http://www.gennaga.com/wizzy/albums/28/322

no offense to anyone,just everyone should take some break from headache.

here are some i have outline
what china have to say, from http://www.current-news.org/current-news/china-lodges-protest-over-dalai-lama-meeting

China says Tibet has been part of its territory for more than seven centuries and denounces the Dalai Lama as a separatist who seeks to end Chinese rule of the Himalayan region. Many Tibetans say they were effectively an independent country for most of that time.
China issued numerous statements over the last week demanding that Sarkozy cancel the meeting and called off a major China-EU summit earlier this month in protest. Sarkozy sought to downplay the furor surrounding the meeting, saying, “There’s no need to dramatize things.”

and thats exactly i would like to say to china “There’s no need to dramatize things.”

what's so wrong with dalai meeting with sarkozy, neither he is going after carla sarkozy nor the man himself will never allow that lolz

i think china bureaucrats just have to mind their own business or what? are Chinese bureaucrats so damn jealous about sarkozy wife?

flamingpoodle on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

flamingpoodle — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:29:46 -0600

I hate that guy. He's like a hippy.

jdh351 on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

jdh351 — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:26:44 -0600

Long live Tenzin Gyatso, the Fourteenth Dalai Lama!

I don't think the Chinese poster can even read these statements because their government has tight control over the internet in China. Talking about the Dalai Lama is a big no-no.

MadMadMargo on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

MadMadMargo — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:50:24 -0600

Very nice, timethief! If I may, I'd like to echo your sentiment...

FREE TIBET!!!

avante on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

avante — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:49:28 -0600

He wears orange ;)

drjay1966 on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

drjay1966 — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:46:30 -0600

He's a person who says and writes a lot of good things, like this:

We can reject everything else: religion, ideology, all received wisdom. But we cannot escape the necessity of love and compassion....This, then, is my true religion, my simple faith. In this sense, there is no need for temple or church, for mosque or synagogue, no need for complicated philosophy, doctrine or dogma. Our own heart, our own mind, is the temple. The doctrine is compassion. Love for others and respect for their rights and dignity, no matter who or what they are: ultimately these are all we need. So long as we practice these in our daily lives, then no matter if we are learned or unlearned, whether we believe in Buddha or God, or follow some other religion or none at all, as long as we have compassion for others and conduct ourselves with restraint out of a sense of responsibility, there is no doubt we will be happy.
Tenzin Gyatso

As such, I don't think he would consider the religious beliefs about him--that he's the reincarnation of previous Dalai Lamas--or his place in a theocratic hierarchy, the most important descriptors of who he is.

lotusb on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

lotusb — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:44:53 -0600

Are you using Blog Catalog to do your homework??

EagleEyedJerry on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

EagleEyedJerry — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:38:06 -0600

Before reading this I thought it was some kind of South American camelid, widely used as a pack animal by the Incas.

timethief on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

timethief — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:41:19 -0600

Yes I do know who Tenzin Gyastso the Ocean of Compassion and Wisdom Lama is and what his story is. Others have provided that information above. This is the link to his official website http://www.dalailama.com/

What surprises me is how little the Chinese people know about the story of his leaving Tibet and living in exile in India.

Dragon Attacks 1949-1959
Taking the first step toward what has become 50 years of oppression, China's People's Liberation Army invades Tibet, killing more than 10,000. Repeated attempts by The Dalai Lama to negotiate with China are dismissed. In 1950, the 15-year-old Dalai Lama is forced into full leadership of Tibet, while in 1951 a Tibetan Delegation is forced to sign the 17-Point Agreement, promising "Measures for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet." During 1959, The Dalai Lama went to China to speak with Chairman Mao Zedong. Mao told him, "Religion is poison. ... Tibet and Mongolia have both been poisoned by it." Also during this year, the Chinese retaliate against the Tibetan resistance, killing more than 87,000. On March 17, 1959, The Dalai Lama escapes His sacred homeland, seeking political asylum in India. The Chinese declare martial law as thousands of Tibetan refugees begin pouring into India. Read more here -> http://www.rangzen.com/history/history.

Environmental Apocalypse 1960s-Present
China has inflicted severe damage to Tibet's environment: Toxic waste is dumped into rivers; forests are clear-cut; endangered species are hunted for sport; and nuclear-testing facilities are built. Hundreds of thousands of Tibetans die from famine and disease. The Chinese begin building facilities for the development of nuclear weapons and begin nuclear testing in the Tibetan plateau. In just 30 years, 25 percent of Tibet's forests are clear-cut, putting $54 billion into Chinese pockets. In the 1980s, this rapid deforestation causes 5 billion tons of soil to be lost to erosion every year, making the Yellow River flood. China currently has at least 300 to 400 nuclear warheads, many of which are in the Tibetan plateau. China declares in 1991 the "Year of Tibet" and begins bulldozing historic Tibetan buildings and homes in the Barkhor, the central square of Lhasa, Tibet's capital.

The Paradox Of Our Age
We have bigger houses but smaller families;
more conveniences, but less time.

We have more degrees but less sense;
more knowledge but less judgment;
more experts, but more problems;
more medicines but less healthiness.

We’ve been all the way to the moon and back,
but have trouble in crossing the street to meet our new neighbour.

We built more computers to hold more copies than ever,
But have less real communication;
We have become long on quantity,
but short on quality.

These are times of fast foods but slow digestion;
Tall men but short characters;
Steep profits but shallow relationships.

It’s a time when there is much in the window
But nothing in the room. -- the 14th Dalai Lama.

FREE TIBET!

Onchong on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

Onchong — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:27:44 -0600

The 14th the Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, is the head of state and spiritual leader of the Tibetan people. He was born Lhamo Dhondrub on 6 July 1935, in a small village called Taktser in northeastern Tibet. Born to a peasant family, His Holiness was recognized at the age of two, in accordance with Tibetan tradition, as the reincarnation of his predecessor the 13th Dalai Lama, and thus an incarnation Avalokitesvara, the Buddha of Compassion.

The Dalai Lamas are the manifestations of the Bodhisattva (Buddha) of Compassion, who chose to reincarnate to serve the people. Lhamo Dhondrub was, as Dalai Lama, renamed Jetsun Jamphel Ngawang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso - Holy Lord, Gentle Glory, Compassionate, Defender of the Faith, Ocean of Wisdom. Tibetans normally refer to His Holiness as Yeshe Norbu, the Wishfulfilling Gem or simply Kundun - The Presence.

The enthronement ceremony took place on February 22, 1940 in Lhasa, the capital of Tibet.

He began his education at the age of six and completed the Geshe Lharampa Degree (Doctorate of Buddhist Philosophy) when he was 25 in 1959. At 24, he took the preliminary examinations at each of the three monastic universities: Drepung, Sera and Ganden. The final examination was conducted in the Jokhang, Lhasa during the annual Monlam Festival of Prayer, held in the first month of every year Tibetan calendar.

If you wish to know more about The Dalai Lama, please browse www.tibet.com

Ref; The Biography of Dalai Lama

jdh351 on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

jdh351 — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:46:14 -0600

He left China because the leaders of Tibet thought it was best to protect him by advising him to escape to India. There was widespread fear that if he stayed he would be murdered by the Chinese government. Shortly after the Dalai Lama left, the Cultural Revolution was in full swing. Tens of thousands of Buddhist temples were destroyed. Many people died during this period of time.

The Dalai Lama still leads the Tibetan people from Dharmsala, India. Unfortunately, negotiations between Tibetans and Chinese have stopped due to China stalling talks and not having meaningful conversation with the Tibetan government in exile.

aningeniousname on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

aningeniousname — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:58:45 -0600

He didn't leave China he left Tibet.

CrankyChick on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

CrankyChick — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:57:24 -0600

yes - karma

rjl2000 on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

rjl2000 — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:22:44 -0600

really？ok!do you konw why he leave china?

CrankyChick on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

CrankyChick — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:15:02 -0600

DaliLama - Thezin Guatso is the reincarnation of the previous Dali Lama

rjl2000 on 'Do you konw who dalailama is?'

rjl2000 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:28:01 -0600

any one konw dalailama?PLZ
describe him