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Do you think Glenn Beck is correct?
Posted by FaithfulinPrayer • 8/26/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: controversy, news, politics
Glenn is doing a series of shows this week about questions we should be asking our government. When you watch his show, you feel like America as we know it is coming to an end. Do you think he is right?
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Hell no. Glen Beck's a hack. I don't willingly stupify myself by watching anything on the Faux "News" channel. I research, investigate and experience things for myself rather than being spoon-fed the lies, misdirections and outright fraud of the mass media.-
i wish i could give points for comments here. I would have definetly given you a 10! -
If you don't watch, how can you know he's wrong? -
Okay Dan33185, if you want to split hairs, I HAVE watched...enough to know not to waste my time with any of it. Better?
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lol, what the hell did you guys say???
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they weren't really removed... the reception was just broken up by all the tin-foil hats
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He's just as entitled to his opinion as anyone else, I suppose... but the manner in which he chooses to be inflammatory is probably mostly about ratings.
I've listened to him a few times, and don't disagree with his logic on some issues. However, he honestly does not know the difference between socialism, progressivism and liberalism -- yet he's paid to influence people's opinions, which he does mostly through hyperbole. I prefer listening to people who are actually educated and accurate, so I guess I don't get his appeal. -
he is a prick. the day he is thrown off the air, i'll throw a "just because" party.
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No. what he does is take the seed of a truth and extrapolates to fit his agenda and his inflammatory speech is on a path of legitimizing some attitudes of extreme right wing groups.
www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d12-Video--...
"Glenn Beck suspension: Racist fringe fight for 'their commentator'"
theloop21.com/news/glenn-beck-suspension-racist-fringe-fight-for-their-comm...
I agree that we should challenge and question but I don't need someone like Beck to tell me that, or hand feed me what questions.
Like Lana I research, investigate from a variety of sources, but newsertainers/pundits of either political persuasion are not included.-
@jafabrit,
I agree with you to an extent. I must however disclose that whenever I read or see or hear words such as 'radical, right-wing, left, extremist, or nutz' I am skeptible on all fronts.
As for me, the guy really cares about his country...so what? He's on cable so everyone has 'freedom of choice' to watch or just change the station. If he has passion...I think that's good inasmuch as it makes up for those who could care less. And that is an issue that has changed mightily in the USA: People are far more ill-informed, misinformed, uninformed, and they honestly don't care -- that part of America has changed enoromously. Cheers
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Since Obama got elected there are two missing hot button issues he promised resolve in, but has shown no light at the end of the tunnel to date.
1- The upside down mortgages of 20 percent of the nation (housing crisis)he helped banks not home owners and now the banks are so greedy they will have to ask for another bailout if they add up all of the foreclosures. The dirty little secret is investors do not want to renegotiate mortgages and they don't care about homeowners. Banks don't care either, because they get fees for processing foreclosures charged to investors. One big happy family.
2- Obama has not given small business or small business owners any kind of tax break, financial assistance or incentives to grow their business. Not sure where he's getting his advice, but small business is the backbone of our economy and growth in this nation.
Glenn Beck, O'Reilly Factor and the entire Fox TV News Network is the lone ranger on this story, and if ratings are
any indication, they must be doing something right, because not all viewers are conservative folks, they are concerned people starting to wake and smell the coffee....yes disaster is brewing and the train wreck is coming...we all want to get off before it hits.-
GIVE THE MAN A BREAK!!!! In the state Bush left this country and the world in, it will take more than a FEW MONTHS before we start seeing changes. I am happy with the way things are now because at least, we are not about to or talking about invading every country out there.
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How ridiculous can this statement be? To utter such phrases as "Obama has done nothing" is a rather unfair statement. If it took Bush 8 years to bring this country down to the level that it is at, it is going to take Obama longer than a whole 8 months to fix it. That is pure, unfiltered logic. Glenn Beck and his ilk at "fixed" news have been committing character assassinations against Obama since he announced his candidacy and they will continue even when this country is back to where it was during the Clinton administration. You know, that point where America was at its highest economic level ever. They attack him because he is not a conservative extremist and that alone. -
@MAYO Communications: I couldn't agree with you more! I was astounded the other day when Neilsen or some other agency showed the actual amounts of audience viewing programs in various time slots.
Cable is cable and not everyone has it; however, the data showed FNC ahead of ABC, CBS, all main-stream networks, and lambasting other cable news shows.
Furthermore, (not MAYO) this whole 'previous administration Bush thing' is getting so old. Look the man has been in office long enough to at least begin to show his notions on 'transparency' or even 'posting before signing' (post bills on internet for 5 days prior and see what the American people want) before signing. Ironically we have representatives that are above the reading bill process and on a whim decide to bailout everything from turtle crossings to banks.
Face it...YOU (again not MAYO) fell for all the campaign rhetoric and now it's hard having to admit that the person voted for is, in fact, a sleazzy-lying politician just like the rest that came before him. -
are we forgetting that the legislative branch of government makes laws (like mortgage assistance, etc)
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I'm all in with Mayo Comm. inasmuch as if one were to look at history, moreover, lived some history then I believe there is only one answer that can be made of this issue and that is that Glenn Beck is right...yet, in his own way, which we are all entitled too.
Mayo brings a great point about FOX News though. If the news reporting was really as bad as the left and/or the main-stream media (msm) wants people to believe, all one needs to do is look at the ratings. Now that's just one way.
Another way would be to watch the various people who have shows and their guests. FOX's motto is "Fair and Balanced" and I personally have seen them withold stories when they don't have either the left or right or independent balance to it. Gutzy! Believe me...when Bush was in office they did not pull any punches with him.
Thanks jps
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ummm...to put it simply, no. just no. if you would like, read my blog for further details of how i feel about glenn beck and his ilk.
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Glen Beck? I am out of here I will get banned for the colorful words that will come out of my mouth if I stay here.... -
The glorious thing about not owning a TV. Who's Glenn Beck? -
I have more faith in America than Beck does. -
after having a failed state for 8 years, America has some work to do.
That being said, I have some questions for Glenn Beck... like how Iraq War dissenters were terrorists, but somehow he isn't.
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Thread killer, thread thread KILLAH! -
Glenn Beck is like the Howard Beal character in "Network," he is a complete loony but interesting for a few minutes. Like most crazies, there is truth amongst the ramblings. Now I know what Londoners felt when they used to go down to Bedlam Hospital in the 18th century to be entertained by the insane. At times seeing someone become so completely unglued is as irresistable as watching a train wreck. -
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That's dirty pool. You do have women playing lacross in their underwear, but[t] nothing about Beck!
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Glenn Beck Fan Club president:
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oh this is too GOOD for him...
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He makes claims that are proven to be false.
www.factcheck.org/2009/08/cash-for-clunkers/
He claimed Van Jones spent time in prison, NOT TRUE
He has claimed that Obama appointees were not vetted by the FBI, NOT TRUE
"Glenn Beck falsely claimed that the government spent $1.4 million of economic stimulus funds "to repair a door" at Dyess Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas" NOT TRUE
mediamatters.org/research/200907210005
He called victims of hurricane katrina scumbags and said he hated 9/11 families.
He claimed Obama didn't consult them on the "national day of service" plan except the 9/11 families came up with it.
He is an entertainer who makes money as an alarmist who feeds into peoples fears, makes false connections, false statements and promotes hate. -
"You don’t beat all of the others networks combined in the ratings with just empty rhetoric"
Which is more popular; "Masterpiece Theatre" or "Big Brother"? o_0
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taking the kernel of a truth and embellishing it, making false claims doesn't excuse him and doesn't give you the facts or the whole truth.
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However old the argument of "the whole state that bush left this country" may be, it is still very true. Obama has a ton of things to do. Right now he is taking on a very large issue, health care. So to call everything he has done a failure or to say that he is a liar because he hasn't done what he has promised is ridiculous. There is only so much he can do in 8 months. That is simple fact. The stimulus has begun to work, as evident with cash for clunkers, when this health care reform is done, he will be able to move onto things like tax cuts for small business. However it is going to take a lot of time. Again, it took Bush 8 years, let us just hope it wont take 8 years to fix what he and republicans destroyed!
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Yep, He is dead on. -
I would watch more of Glenn Beck if here were on at an appropriate time for his show. Saturday morning is when I like to watch cartoons.-
lol me too
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Is the America "we" know one where opponents of the President try to scream and yell at politicians they disagree with? Is it one where people who pledge their patriotism for this country, then tell the schools they don't want their kids to listen to what the President of the USA has to say? If its that shameful behavior that he's talking about....then I hope it does come to an end. -
I'm lucky I don't have cable. Unfortunately, though, I still run across him on the web. One of the freakier examples I've seen involves war gaming a civil war scenario in the U.S., as militia groups freak out and take the law into their own hands. (www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/02/22/militias/) Pretty dangerous form of entertainment he's offering. I also couldn't believe it when I heard him calling Obama a racist. Hatred, lies, and fear-mongering seem to be his specialties. Course, many still watch him, which for me is a sign of just how sick our civic culture is becoming.-
Wow... was just watching the first clip...
i think it speaks to the freedoms that we do have, that a show host can say "I am against the government" (at 2:10 into the clip) and stay on the air! His war-gaming scenarios are radical and subversive
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Maybe it is the end of the USA, as they know it, for the audience of his show.
The last time polybore heard the audience figures for his show it was about 2.6million which may sound a lot but actually that is 0.8% of the population of the USA.
0.8% is an insignificant proportion of the US population.
So you could say that maybe it is the end of the USA as Beck and his audience know it but why would that be a bad thing being insignificant as they are?-
2.6 Million armed civillians could possibly raise a lot of havok. I should also note that such wackiness pemeates a certain segment of society here.
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Like the crowd that is even lower on information than the Fox "News" crowd.
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If Glenn Beck thinks it's so, it's probably not. -
It's time to turn off the television. -
When you watch his show, you feel like America as we know it is coming to an end. Do you think he is right?
Who the heck is Glen Beck and why should any Canadian know or care about what he has to say? Change is the only constant in the universe. All things change.-
Don't worry, you can only receive his signal if your attic is lined with Reynolds Wrap
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Good one! Gottcha ... no funny man
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Anyone on Faux, a guaranteed half-wit -
The fact that so many people take a professional demagogue like Glenn Beck seriously shows that the country is in big trouble. -
you mean that fellow over there on fox news, fair and balanced? that rotund one? the guy who in the name of democracy called the president a racist? and a socialist? and wanted to protect our children from our president's satan tongue?
yeah, everything he says is right. right wing fear mongering stupidity.-
Indeed and any Canadian can spot that from the 49th parallel.
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Actually what is the difference between say Glenn Beck and those characters on 'The View'? Please don't misunderstand me...I like Beck, however, his communication skills are much different than mine. And I do agree there is some embellishment with his reporting.
However, as I stated in an earlier comment, I sincerely feel that Beck is trying to get a very apathetic American public off their bums and get into some real effacacy -- in other words "do something." -
Glenn Beck does everything for ratings, he and his cohorts are dangerous in their ranting for ratings. I'm sorry but I just don't remember this much open discussion of taking the president down by some means when we had Bush? Does this mean democrats were sneakier or just poorer so they couldn't afford a whole network?
Also he is the antichrist, proof I don't need proof, I said so and the republicans will stifle my voice soon but you the people will have heard...... you get the idea, any idiot can do what he does.
I do listen to him in the car when I can, why? So I'm sure I'm still right and he is still silly. -
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Glen Beck like his partner in crime Rush Limbaugh are simply in it to make as much money as they can at any cost. They do this by making people upset. It doesn't matter how they get upset (for or against their positions) they just want people angry, upset, and ready to grab torches and pitch forks. It's how they make money.
They really are soulless people who love people to idolize them, and thrive on anger. I really don't understand how Glen or Rush can live with themselves, kind of amazing to me.-
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They remind me of sociopaths: no conscience. They have incendiary rhetoric that gets people steamed up and they don't know why; they just blindly follow.
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Glenn Beck is Spam that someone let out of the can. No matter how his rhetoric is cooked, it still leaves a bad taste.
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you gotta love it.. he is raking in the cash.. regardless... and that is the point. When the money stops flowing he will disappear, what will his opinion matter then. You will just move on to another inflammatory bigot that can talk faster than you can think. It is a verbal shell game that they always win. And they owe it all to fickle Americans.
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Having been tuned in closely to politics for some time, I've come to know how to distance myself from what gives off 'vibes' of utter idiocy, momentary or chronic. This guy Beck is simply building a rep, not true? Why give him the fluster he needs to thrive on. Without contention, haters don't do well. -
I'm not convinced that even Glen Beck believes all the crap he is slinging. It's about ratings and he's pulling them in. The more outlandish the better his ratings. -
Who's Glenn Beck? Never heard of him.
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Beck is interesting to watch in small doses and he is probably the best actor/commentator in the so-called news arena. He's off the wall but many of his rants are based on truth. The stimulus plan has been a joke and is not working as promised. It tries to do social engineering in the name of creating jobs. Little of the money has been spent, yet it's passage was marked urgent.
The more directly a stimulus goes into the hands of consumers or even state and local governments for immediate public works projects, sans bureaucrats (clash for clunkers hired seven thousand temps to ineptly process the paperwork),the more effective it is in revving up the economy.
Beck is no less a partisan than the toadies at MSNBC (who garner less than a third of his ratings because not only are they biased, they are enervatingly boring). And the comments he makes are no worse than the comments made by the Rachel Maddow crowd about the former president. After the election, I told republican friends that I thought he was a good man at heart and that the presidency has a way of making men grow into the part (Truman comes to mind). Unfortunately, I am coming to see the new president not as an innovator but a pure Chicago machine politician (undoubtedly the most corrupt group of politicians in this country)who embarassed himself this past week by trying to ostracize Fox News. The entire media rose in one voice against this outrage, but really, an enemies list? The president's ratings will continue to fall unless he actually practices the kinder gentler politics he promised.-
"Beck is no less a partisan than the toadies at MSNBC (who garner less than a third of his ratings because not only are they biased, they are enervatingly boring). And the comments he makes are no worse than the comments made by the Rachel Maddow crowd about the former president."
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Nowadays it's fashionable and more lucrative to be controversial than correct. Even look at the most discussed discussions here
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Correct and controversial are frequently handmaidens. Most revolutionary ideas in science were controversial before they were deemed correct. In Beck's case I think he has some good observations which he just can't stop himself from hyperbolizing. He is an admitted alcoholic, son of a mother who committed suicide (which is much rarer than having a father do the same thing)and his biggest negative is his total lack of self control. I think he likes the money but I don't think he has calculated his positions for gain. I believe he sees himself as a prophet and is totally driven to do what he does. His paranoia and exageration hurt his arguments, but like most slightly mad men, he is driven by real intelligence and at present an ability to see things that others have ignored. I disagree with over half of his conclusions but find some of his factual exposes most telling. The reality that he, and largely because of him, Fox, have become targets for demonization make me think that he has hit a nerve. If someone attacks you with lies, you expose the lies. When someone attacks you with the truth, a frequent strategy is to attack the messenger.
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"his biggest negative is his total lack of self control"
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Well, I believe that Glenn Beck is incorrect however no one can truly know until the actual truth is revealed through experience and time. However you did forget to mention the third reason why Fox has "hit a nerve". Perhaps their information, whether created or just an honest mistake, may be hurting the "genuine" agenda of the White House. Therefore, out of the need to bring their agenda into fruition, they attack the cause of what is holding them back in their goal. I do not know if this is the cases, however it is a valid possibility.
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I was talking about how he completely misrepresents Thomas Paine.
Read "Agrarian Justice," or "Right's of Man, Part the Second," or "Dissertation on the First Principles of Government"
Historic Fail
oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1082&c...
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If the White House wants to dispute a point Fox raises, that should be their approach, not try to disparage it without addressing the so-called inaccuracies. In fact, the White House got the green jobs Czar to resign after Fox revealed embarassing video of him. They realized the truth of what was shown, but I think vowed revenge. How Nixonian. Let's not go back there. I'm afraid Chicago politics are stuck in the machine world of old and the present administration is trying to give them to the rest of us in the nation. No thanks.
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More pertinent question - Do you think Glenn Beck is sane??-
so if people think that someone is correct who isn't sane, what does that imply?
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Draw your own conclusions about what that implies for Fox viewers
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tin foil poisoning, maybe?
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There is a video on youtube, showing 2 lions attacking and killing a hyena. Watch it. It is what the white house's retaliation of Fox reminded me of
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I have more respect for Fox News then any other news channel. The other news channels are weak minded and not to be believed. Obama has made it so most news companies are not allowed to report anything but good things about him. Fox News gets a bunch of slack because they are willing to report the good, the bad and the ugly. As a matter of fact a few people in office with Obama were bragging about how they had the media mostly under control and only reporting what they wanted them to. He doesn't want anybody to know anything bad about him. Fox News is the only channel with the courage to report anything. You notice the only press that is allowed in during press conferences with the president are a select few? That is because the ones allowed in are the ones not allowed to report bad news about the president. Bash Fox News all you want but it is the only one I have respect for!! They are the only ones who are not following the leader like the rest of the sheep.-
But some ritalin wud do them some good
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You know I think they just get all excited because the Whitehouse is always breathing down their back because they are willing to say what needs to be said. But yes I definitely see your saying.
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Fox News isn't the only voice of dissent out there. It is just the only voice of dissent among BIG CORPORATE MEDIA.
Here is some dissent that has no such bankrolling from Right Wing radicals:
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Chicky -- if you want to read non-partisan cricitism of the US government, look no further than the foreign press. Read The Economist. They are even handed with praise and criticism of the right and left.
www.economist.com
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nott...why don't you watch Bill Maher on fri nights..Glenn Beck is one of the biggest followers does whatever the network tells him to just to get ratings...
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Glenn Beck? A six pack of Glenn Becks? He is an actor, a performer, an entertainer. He works for Mr. Rupert Murdock, the big old fox, and Beck is Baloney! Look at him pretending to be that guy from the movie Network. What was that guy's name? Howard Beale. Old crazy Howard giving his "I'm Mad as Hell speech" every night. Old Glenn Beck, the crazy old fox, crying, and shaking, and making money, lots and lots of money, as he draws his fans to watch him act, for that big old fox Murdock, and his global money making machine. And they have some people fooled that what they do is all for real.
What Fox does is closer to wrestling than to journalism Ever heard of Vince McMahon? The Moneymaking man! Everybody knows rasslin' ain't no sport. Some people believe it is. Mr. McMahon tells you, it's sports entertainment.That old fox Murdock, he knows he ain't sellin' news. It's entertainment. Some are fooled, they think it is news. -
Is it just me or is it really happening.
This is only the beginning for the economy, which feels like Bah...humbug this holiday season. Like the pilot right before he landed on the Hudson River in New York said, "Brace for impact!" -
Say what you will about his views on politics...he still has the freedom of speech to say what he feels on radio and TV.
BUT....what really irks me is that HE DOESN'T HOLD HIS VIEWS ACCOUNTABLE for what happens as a result of opening his big mouth. Someone once tried to use a gun to enforce his culture-warrior views and make a statement.
Beck is a genius, at getting millions of regular listeners on his show and keeping them brainwashed. But he's a blind person leading the blind. At least do not try to damage control and take back what you said when you inspire a lunatic to go on a rampage.-
I think that Fox should be ashamed of themselves. I mean giving a show to a disabled person and making fun of him by not editing out all the insane paranoid things that he says. If they had a heart, they would get him some help.
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I like and dislike Glenn Beck... His opinions are his and definitely entitled to them... The diversity of ideas and opinions is what stimulates the concept of life and living... There is a saying, "An opinion is like an Ass... Everyone has one."
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I Have one thing to SAY ....OK 2 things to say.....Bill Maher ROCKS.....and Glenn Beck is a CRACKER..
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Of course there are no big money people supporting the likes of Obama. Everyone knows that George Soros, a harmless little currency speculator and infamous market short never cared about money while he was amassing his billions. And he only supports causes because he is a lover of humanity with absolutely no ego involved. Only right wing people are greedy. And although statistics argue the opposite, they are all ignorant crackers.
More people have been murdered by the humanity loving socialists, national and international , than all the capitalists who ever lived. Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow,Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman and their ilk are some of the most hateful, spiteful, bitter people it has been my displeasure to watch. Thank goodness their ratings affirm them to be highly marginalized.
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