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Does China playing the host helped them winning more Golds ?
Posted by crawler • 8/22/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: all time medal count, analysis, olympics, rankings, tables
The analysis gives rise to one question, does China playing the host has given them the distinct psychological advantage of scoring more number of Golds in local conditions at Olympics 2008 in Beijing ?
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If we looked at the history of the games, America has won nearly 900 Golds out of some 2200 total medal count, now those are unprecedented figures, but at these ongoing edition of Olympics China has converted more no of Silvers into Golds taking its tally to 47 which is not yet complete, what with more Golds to be decided on saturday, and I think is going to cross the 50 Gold medal mark, which is for the first time in China's history of games. America has still the record of most no of Golds of 83 at 1984 Olympics in LA. which was boycotted by some countries to the American boycott of 1980 Olympics in Moscow.
Now that's a contrasting picture if we looked at the whole thing, now with almost all the countries registering their participation, Chinese achievement is remarkable. Iran has the distinction of boycotting both the 1980 and 1984 Olympics, Libya also boycotted the 84 Olympics for different reasons though. -
Now, the latest the IOC has asked International Federation of Gymnastics to investigate the claims that He Kexin the Chinese double Gold winner is younger than the elligible age to compete at the games. What do you think ? Is she really underage ?
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I very much doubt that she is underage.
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Playing at home is usually considered as an advantage in sport. Great Britain has done remarkably well in this Olympics considering it's population size.
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If she is proved underage, then I think it will be a blow to Chinese practices in selecting the athletes in competing at this level, and not she herself is solely responsible for this saga.
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I'm sure the home-field advantage helps, but so does the authoritarian system that invests in training. Remember the Soviet Union? Or East Germany?-
Yes, of course, but in this case, if IOC finds under age claims to be true, then China's seems to have authorized underage athletes to perform and win Golds.
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Great Britain has definitely performed great at this edition of Olympics. Considering the Population size, I have found Finland and Sweden dominating the all time medal lists considering their Population size, but this edition has proved lacklustre for Sweden as it is yet to take a Gold.
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There is no big advantage being the hosts if your counterparts are true skilled persons. Guess America missed it this time against the huge number of Chinese athletes, on the other hand you could say the mental thinking has boosted the Chinese to win. I'm telling this 'coz In my country India near to China they feel its as home and for the first time they ended up with three medals which is the highest medal tally for India.
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Yes, there is no big advantage, in fact if we see the medal count America leads by some over 100 medals, America lost out in Gymnastics, underage accusations have already cast a shadow and now what with the new Ranking System. I think America is slightly unlucky on this front.
Other wise 36 Silvers and 35 Bronze are a very good effort, what if half of them would have been converted, then it would have been again America at the top of the table.
I think the Indian Olympic Committee needs to work on long term plans if it really wants to win medals at the Olympic level, like all the other countries do.
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Not to mention, We're playing for gold within the next 24-48 hours in:
-Men's basketball
-women's basketball
-men's volleyball
-women's volleyball
-men's water polo
-women's water polo
and a shitload of others. Apart from the baton dropping fumbles of the track and field team, this U.S. team has OVER achieved compared to where people thought they'd be.-
Let us see America really closin' in fast to China's Gold tally, Yeah I think there are over 20 Medals up for grabs today, if I am right.
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Yup - we equaled our total from Athens already, which none of our own "experts" thought we'd do.
The two big "races" now are:
-how many ovrall medals will the U.S. win (110+ would be quite an accomplishment)
-can China win 50 gold medals? I think no one since the U.S.S.R. in the Moscow Olympics has done that.
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So, its 107 medals for US now, with a splendid performance by the Mens and Women's 4 x 400m Relay Final teams.
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Can China Box its way to 50th Gold of the Beijing Olympics today ?
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Home field is an advantage. Judging is subjective in many events, and crowd support can make a difference in those events.
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Well the host country does get to have an athlete compete in every event so there is the home field advantage in a sense. That has to lead to more medals, even gold then if they were visitors.-
Good point you've made.
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China takes the 50 th Gold in Boxing !
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I think what's amazing is that their are like 8 gold medals awarded between the sports of "table tennis" and "badmitton" - yet sports like basketball get only 1.
Where China really cleaned house (besides the ping pong tables) was in diving and weightlifgting.
results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/92A/CHN_T.shtml
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definitely as a host country, will have 200% chance to win the competition. i think audience is important to fire the spirit.
let wait and see if England will win in 2012 -
Yeah, China was lucky enough in Gymnastics events, Where it somehow has managed the underage issue till now, and the new Ranking system really helped them get past the competitors.
They have only 21 Silvers to US's 38, a difference of 17 medals. Now that speaks volumes. -
The real question is - how awe struck were you with Jackie Chan's singing abilities in the closing ceremonies?
That one song they played before he came out - was every other word in that song "Beijing?"
It literrally sounded like this to my untrained ear:
"hola Beijing - Beijing, Beijing.
Beijing, Beijing - Beijing, Beijing."
If so, I'd like to officially pen the theme music for the London games.
"ooooh London, London, London
British people live, in London."
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I think Jackie got stuck in the Beijing traffic
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turn for david beckham in london 2012, let see if he can sing better
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I demand we see the Spice Girls. And I want some sort of Guy Fawkes effigy to be present during the lighting of the torch.
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i think Sir Elton john will be the opening singer. i think spice girls not spicy anymore.
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