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Don't Ask, Don't Tell; Gays in the Military
Posted by lotusb • 7/02/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: dadt, military
After graduating from Westpoint and a sterling career in the military, Lt. Dan Choi may be loosing his career all for admitting to be gay. Because of the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, homosexuals in the military are forced to keep their personal lives a secret.
What is your opinion on this current debate.
See the story here: www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-kirsten-gillibrand/i-stand-with-lt-dan-choi_b_21...
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REPORTED: Please don't troll this topic...Thank you.
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"You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."
www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/bulgarians/barry-goldwater.html-
Good point.
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sorry, I forgot to attribute that quote. It is attributed to Barry Goldwater 1964 Republican nominee for the presidential election.
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I think don't ask don't tell is ridiculous. Are we not adults?
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but we might get cooties
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when I was in, we knew who was what and there wasn't an issue. There were even little signals with clothing to express it. The only ones I have ever seen booted were the ones who caused problems in some other way but were untouchable for it and so sexuality was used to get em out. On the other hand, I have seen strait people booted for heterosexual oral and anal sex (against UCMJ) for similar reasons. When you hear of someone being kicked out for sexuality, it has been my experience both as a soldier and a military spouse, that there is something else going on that isn't being mentioned.... and we're not talking little things. One dude was kicked out for holding a knife to someone's throat (not the first time it's been reported) but there was no proof and so since he was bi, it was used as an excuse to get a bully out of the unit. He was a friendly fire incident waiting to happen-
"I have seen strait people booted for heterosexual oral and anal sex"
no wonder they can't meet recruiting targets -
haha I know right
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thread killer, thread thread killah!
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lotusb. is most likely anti-gay, just like she's anti-everything else, except hitting children, that is.-
Cat fight, cat fight... hsssssssssss!
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I see she has a lot to add to her own topic !
She must have also been captain of the debate team!
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Reported. Now you're just harassing her.
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See my reply in the Is this:
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/question-to-the-religious-why-is-this-not...
Personally I think LisaNYC and DollinNYC are the same individuals who are into lambasting individuals - and are extremely rude about it.
I think they both should think about their actions - and consider whether BlogCatalog Forum Discussion is ACTUALLY the place they need to be in.
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again ROFLLLLLLL !!!!!!!! "reported" wah wah !
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She's not a cat, more like the lowest of the low, a rat. Don't insult the cat family, please!
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Now you're insulting rats!
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Lisanyc, consider yourself reported !
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Good point, Dolly! PETA is gonna be on me for that one!
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and the censors at BC! how dare you speak your mind! Sieg Heil!
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No.
You are missing the point entirely BOTH of you.
You have started what can be termed STALKING, Harassing behavior in your activity in these threads, and I am very disappointed in both of your actions.
You both have Gone beyond the acceptable in the TERMS OF SERVICE of BlogCatalog - and normal decent human behavior on a forum. -
Surprisingly, I am not here for your approval, and I don't give a rats furry a** what you think.
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Get. a. life.
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I think it's indicative of a great error in reasoning when people are forcibly ripped from their careers because their biological sexual attractions do not coincide with the perceived norm.
Does being gay harm anyone? No. Does having gay sex harm anyone? Usually not. Does being gay necessarily mean that you are going to have gay sex or lust after your fellow servicemen? Doubtful.
So, where is the harm? I'd wager that there is no harm caused by homosexuals. On the other hand, Don't Ask, Don't Tell causes harm through humiliation, lost wages, emotional distress, etc.
It is difficult for me to see why anyone would be in favor of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. The only reasons that come to mind are: Hatred, disgust, ignorance, and fear.
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Love you Voods - how ya doin?
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I'm doing alright. Thanks for asking.
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What always gets me about "Don't ask don't tell" is that somehow the reason of "well we'll be uncomfortable when we know who is gay around us, we have to shower with them!" is used.
If they are gay - they are gay. If they aren't groping you in the shower now, they aren't going to start simply because yu know they're gay.
And imagine how uncomfortable homosexuals are already in shower room situations? DO people honestly believe that they are animalistic lust-whore-exhibitionists who want nothing more than to prance around naked in hopes of getting some? They probably don't want to be nekked in front of the straight guys anymore than a woman does!
They do have this thing called modesty.
*sigh*
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