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Posted by angelshair • 11/03/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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I was wondering if it is possible to have faith in something without feeling the need to spread the word.
My question comes from what I read on past forums in BC.
Here is the definition of faith in wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith
Is it faith or religious ideologies that makes believer wanting others to believe as they do.
I personaly believe in something greater than me, but most of the time feel much more closer to atheist than religious people, probably because, while I believe in something, I do not feel that I possess the truth and that I have this mission of spreading it.
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Well...this is what I have to say about that. I don't belive in being self-rightious,or shoving my faith in Jesus Christ down your throat. Now having said that when asked for an opinion on a particular thread such as this one,I have no problem in sharing that my "faith" in Christ is strong and I'm proud of it. Just like the atheists say I don't have "faith" and proud of it. Not to mention a part of my faith is spreading around the message of the glory of GOD. I am not ashamed of it. Just like the atheists aren't ashamed of their message. -
Thank you for sharing.
It is the part about spreading the message that I do not understand, but this is probably because I am not catholic.
Is spreading the message's part of your faith or asked by your religion?-
I'm not catholic either,but I am christian,and yes part of my faith is to tell people about Jesus and out of love he sacrificed himself for us. The least I can do to show my love in return is tell more people of his love. They can decide for themselves. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head.
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Faith without action is dead!-
Why?
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I agree...faith isn't faith unless you are willing to share it with others.
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But if this is the case for all people from all religions, this creates a problem, and can lead to wars in name of the truth.
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Faith and works are inseparable. The only way that anyone can be justified in the sight of men and really give evidence of salvation is by their actions. Thus, one can say he has faith, but it is dead without works to back it up. If you say you are saved and continue to do things contrary to the commands and principles contained in the Word of God, then no one is going to believe you.
Faith with works is life--eternal life. -
Do you think that the notion of salvation is inconditional part of faith?
And what about people from other religion who claim to have faith, but who's religions and visions of god's will are different? Do they also have to spread their message?
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Faith is an individual thing and there's no reason to try to force your belief/faith down others throats.-
listen to this guy, he is like a bear trap, nothing gets past him.
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Yes, it is definitely certain religious ideologies that condition people to try to make others believe as they do and drop the J-bomb every chance they get. One can definitely have faith in something without the need to try to make others have faith in the same thing.
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In fact, this is something I saw much more often in christianity and Islam, and that questions me.
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I think you are totally justified to question this behavior. The behavior reminds me of the chain mails I get in my e-mail. The ones that say good fortune will fall upon you if you pass on the email to 10 more people in your address book.
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LOL!! I hate that so much! I have a friend who specialize in this kind of stuff. I think she is so afraid of missing or loosing her good fortune that she send everything she got to every contact she got on her emailbox.
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Ugh!
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Yes:-)). But the sad part of the story is that by her fear of loosing or missing her good fortune, she has lost her freedom to act.
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And her good judgement.
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Indeed. It really is a tragedy and rather criminal if you think about it. These individuals are hijacked by these hoaxes.
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They are! And truly there is something criminal. And it get worse when the message has to be forwarded in order to avoid bad fortune vs the message has to be forwarded in order to gain good fortune.
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Yup, and with so many people believing in this stuff, it certainly is an effective way to spread a meme. But it is terribly destructive and dishonorable. It certainly takes advantage of people.
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faith and action do go hand in hand....our message is in our actions, the words can fall dead to the ears of others. Our actions speak volumes though-
Probably...or I'd better say certainly! Let say that the main concern I have here, is that the last big actions I saw messaging religious faith makes me afraid about the content of the message.
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Actions do speak volumes, but are actions justified when they are only motivated by ones faith in something? For example, the 9/11 hijackers had faith in their god, and that faith gave them the strength to act, to deliver a message to the American people through the actions of crashing planes into the twin towers. Were their actions justified by their faith?
"Isn't it rather the case that with God, anything is permissible?" - Christopher Hitchens
Obviously meaning that when people have faith in god, and they believe god is on their side, they can and do use their faith in god to justify just about any action they wish, which is dangerous. Faith in religion as well as in god, has been used to justify female genital mutilation, slavery, suicide bombings, etc...
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To burn witches and scientists and to make war.
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From the religious zealot to the globe-trotting human rights activist, most any contemporary who puts forward a moral stance brandishes Kants categorical moral imperative ("do the other person's good"). Only a true metaphysical (ie first philosophy) quest would enable us to rediscover a notion of good devoid of subjective and moralistic tones.-
Hi Harveyavatar, happy to see you here:)! I like the idea of rediscovering a notion of good devoid of subjective and moralistic tones! But I am not sure about what you mean by first philosophy. Can you explain please?
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If people had less ideas about what's good and bad, right and wrong, healthy and unhealthy, we'd all be better off. People just want to prove they're special, have something the other person doesn't have- more power, money, intelligence, knowledge, talent, beauty, health, a relationship with God, etc. We're just not simple or humble enough.-
I second that NP!! Humility is the key!
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Well
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Faith,
Anatomy of Faith:
Precept then Concept, then Philosophy, then belief, then manifestation.
The precept starts the snowball rolling. The time you get to Philosophy you cant stop it. Subconscious(spirit kicks in)
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