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"Friends" on Blog Catalog is Laughable
Posted by Mewie • 2/15/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: blog, boost traffic, friend, friends, increase traffic, traffic
Do your "friends" actually interact with you or boost traffic for your blog?
I tend to think the majority of "friends" (aka spammers) do not. So what's the point of adding complete strangers who fill up your shoutbox with their links?
I tend to delete most "add friends requests" unless they genuinely seem interested in my blog. Likewise, I only send friend requests when I am genuinely interested in another's blog. But I think I represent the minority here.
Where do you stand?
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BC is one of my top five traffic sources... I tend to have a open policy with friends on social networks. I will add anyone, if they spam me I delete them and weed them out...
Also from a non selfish standpoint I find it a great way just to experience different blogs and thoughts.-
I honestly treat every social network I am on as totally open except for two that I belong to because they are used in an Academic or Professional capacity. Beyond that I view them as purely promotional and a way to network...
Okay I am done giving valuable feedback and will go back to being a smartass...
I am just exhausted from packing and running around all day... Time for a beer or twenty.
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crpitt, I am a "meanie butt" when it comes to strangers filling up your page with spam-like links or linking to you with no real interest in sharing life with you. It's simply a waste of cyber space and dilutes the chances of promoting your actual friends.
As for having no real friends, that's just mean! =P -
Being mean obviously worked for me, seeing as you visited my blog, you must of sensed that i was British
Calling you a meanie butt was my way of being nice in this circumstance, as I wondered why you would start such a thread.
On one hand you ask do friends on here increase traffic and on the other hand you delete people before they get a chance.
If they spam you just delete them.
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You can't control who "friends" you, but you can control who you friend. I don't know who all has friended me, because I don't have notifications turned on, but I have only friended 76 people with whom I've had good chats on BC over the past 6 to 8 months. Some of them visit my blogs too, but it's not like I am expecting them to.
There are a few BC members who leave comments in your shoutbox as soon as you join, because they are using the friends thing as a marketing ploy. These are the spammers. When I get a shout from one of them, I use the wonderful "block" button.-
Mark, you said "...I don't know who all has friended me..."
I think you can find out by looking at the bottom of your friends page:
www.blogcatalog.com/user/stoneman/friends
Look for "stoneman is also a friend of…"
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I am totally in agreement with you; absolute load of tosh which totally abuses the whole concept of "friendship" entirely. It's blindily obvious that some add you as a friend just so you might get hooked on their blog but have absolutely no intention of even looking at yours... I've very few friends and soon even less...hey I'm happy with that because friendship is supposed to be a two way thing, as is the art of communication. All depends what you hope to gain from it....
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I see you came in Dec. and Mewie is brand new this month. I felt the same way when I joined. As I participated, though, there came a point when I found it natural to use the "Add to my Friends" button on people's profile pages. That's when I started doing it, not before. If it doesn't feel right, don't do it.
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Mewie, I get your skepticism, but I'm a little confused about one thing. Your blog description on your profile page reads thus: "Whether you work in the marketplace, study in school, or seek Good News from your church - we all need that daily encouragement to share life on life." How does a word like "laughable" fit into that framework?
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What are you trying to say? That his profile is "laughable"?
I understand what he is saying; I cleared my profile of this feature for more than one reason. As with all social networks, the friend term is clearly overused and, therefore, devalued. Granted it is possible to become friends, real friends, over time, but certainly not with a few posts and shout exchanges here and there. -
Globalgirl, thanks for the backup there. You totally get my point.
Stoneman, I didn't intend to be judgmental at all - I genuinely find it funny how the "friends" concept is loosely applied on Social Network Services. That's all. As you noted before, I totally encourage sharing life on life - my sense of "sharing" means building up quality relationships - not Internet traffic.
Hope I made myself clear - if you felt judged in any way, I apologize. I can't stand judgmental people so I appreciate the constructive criticism.
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Some people here are just damn fun to talk to. A lot of the best ones are here commenting on this topic. Even the ones I greatly disagree with are interesting. I don't feel the need to constantly promote my blog, and I don't do it through my friend list. Friends are just that, friends.
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I am friendly with just about every one. It matters not what part of the world you are hailing from. I simply think it is nice to befriend someone and make them feel welcome. I have many friends and visit sites as I am able and always try to give positive feedback on their hard work and endeavors of building and writing their web logs. I love all of the talented people I have met and that I can visit and talk to. I appreciate diversity and innovative conversations.
Great Weekend To All ... -
We got lots of our traffic from blogcatalog too. Sure, most of our 'freinds' don't drop in, but it has created a steady following.
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Most people in any other "normal" social situation would take the trouble to introduce themselves. Just because this is the internet does that mean good manners have to depart? Someone recently asked me to review thier blog; so I did and not even a word of thanks! (Hmm... maybe they didn't like what I said?!(Tee Hee) Still, perhaps you shouldn't ask if you dont want to hear..
Sure for the net maybe we can have "friends" for regular contact and "acquaintenance"..who maybe will drop in on from time to time... but let's face it a little bit of politeness goes a long way....-
Politeness DOES go a long way... well spoken, JaneTurley.
On a tangent, I love hanging out with British folks - no matter what they say, they always sound polite due to their accents. Then again, that may be just me being ignorant and infatuated with English accents in general - I could listen to them all day. lol
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I view it kind of like a fraternity, you may make some close friends and there will be acquaintances, but all are a part of your group. So let's say your driving down the highway and you see a car stalled on the side of the road. maybe you stop and help maybe you dont, but if that same car had their avatar pasted in the window you would be more likely to stop simply because you have something in common. or I could be wrong.
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Do you mean to tell me that these aren't my real friends?!
You mean to say that I'm not supposed to stalk them, and peek in their windows at night or drink their left over coffee?
But, but, but.........Oh I'm so alone now!
/sarcasm
I actually get quite a bit of traffic from BC, and many from the friends that I have "met" while on here. I have also had the wonderful experience of giving other bloggers the privilege of my presence on their blogs.
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I don't view friends here that way I view them the same as contacts on mbl, neighborhoods or communities are different I try to read the blogs in those once and awhile. Most of my traffic comes from established readers or google/yahoo, ask web etc. I get no traffic from here nor do I use It as a social network but then again I'm not trying to sell anything. As with anything it's a crap shoot.
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I add friends for 2 reasons, one because I actually like what they say and 2, it makes it easy for me to locate them at a later date. I will respond with a short reply in most cases if I like the look of what they are doing. If they are people that are telling me how to make money on the internet and have no REAL value and only are repeating other peoples stuff, I'll just bypass them.
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I've only been on here for a month-ish or so, maybe. And going on my feedburner stats, I've been getting more traffic from here than anywhere else. (Granted, I don't tend to get too much traffic to begin with anyway.) So I'm hardly complaining. Not to mention, the community here's plenty amusing and interesting - when the first page of the board isn't flooded with religion threads, anyway - and awkward as I am, I've at least been starting to develop a bit of a rapport with a few people around here, I feel, so I think that's certainly a good thing.
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Like othres have said I'm open to friending anyone, but you'll develop a core group of people who you talk with regularly if you participate in the discussions. Humor seems to be our most common ground. No matter what our differences of opinion we all seem to enjoy a good laugh.
There are several members of the BC community that I consider very good friends. I'm a very open and loving person so when I connect with folks I tend to think of them as like family. Not everyone, of course, and certainly there are spammers and folks just pushing their blogs, but there's also a rich and diverse group of really informative and talented bloggers to discover. You'd be doing yourself a disservice by not utilizing the friends feature.
Just my opinion.
By the way please check my blog.
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Great points, Kdawg. I'm not totally "Anti-Friends" as you'll note that I do have a few (and growing because of this discussion!). I just think the use of "Friends" in several cases can be considered a joke - but as others validly suggested, there are definitely great benefits to having more "friends" than less.
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it's not a war, i love horses, it's just we're easier to cuddle, those hoofs get in the way and they've got hair at the top of their backs and tails that flick in peoples faces and...their bums are too high and they make splattery messes, but apart from that, that horse is very nice, and smart and plays guitar hero, pretty clever for a horse i reckon.
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I've made a number of actual friends via BC and other social networking sites. I couldn't imagine life without the inimitable crpitt, offendedblogger, jungl, ender, crkian, libdrone, techfun... and on and on.
Certainly, not everyone on my "friends" list interacts with me the same way or to the same degree, but I can't call a service "laughable" that has provided me with so many wonderful people, many of whom are a part of my daily life. -
There are friends and there are friends, just like life. Some you see now and again. Some you hang out with all the time. Some you only see once every 10 years or so (like my old college roommate).
When BC first started having friends, I was fortunate that people asked me as strangers ... like Naren, House of Virtue, LPG, Walter, Theresa111, Pat, etc. And then some of their friends became my friends. Thank goodness they didn't apply the stranger rule otherwise I might not have met anyone.
Anyway, I guess sometimes it pays to take a chance on a stranger. Because we really never know until we give them a chance. Geesh, sappy. Even for me.
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There are definitely good folks here, people I'd be happy to chat with in real life. On any social network you're going to have the two sides of the spectrum-- the spammy folks who friend only for the sake of making vague connections hoping one of them will turn into a reader, a sale. Like throwing spaghetti at the wall a seeing what will stick.
And then you get the folks who are consistent personalities who you grow to feel like you know, the more you interact with them.
Online "friends" don't happen immediately. So when you first enter a board and get hit with those "friend me, friend me" strangers, you kind of have to look past that, and get settled in. You'll likely find the folks you feel you understand, and who understand you. Friend those people. They're out there.
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I've found this a fascinating post. Speaking as a newbie, I didn't have a clue what the 'Friends' thing was when I started, and had to kinda of feel my way in.
So many replies in this thread have been spot on in my experience. I've met some really nice people thanks to the friends feature, but I've also had a lot of people who have no compatible interests and just use me to get more views on their sites. I'm now developing the art of syphoning out the one's I don't need or like.
I add friends because I like their blogs, and there can be a diverse array of reasons for that. So for me, I like the feature, but you are so right about the spammers and bloggers who are looking for an easy outlet to air their latest blogs. -
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I thought I'd jump into this going-nowhere-fast topic and say a few things:
You all do realize that myspace and facebook is fueled by everything that you guys are complaining about, right?
Now who here has a myspace account? Anyone who's really serious about what they preach would stay incredibly far from that site.
And don't try the "I do it to stay in touch with neighbors/family/people I went to school with 20 years ago" excuse.-
Hey Riverstyxx, funny that you mention that - for these very same reasons, I closed my MySpace account a month ago and YES, I only add genuine friends/family to my facebook profile. Only people I actually have hung out with in the real world are on my friends' list.
Laugh all you want but my wife found me through this very principle (off of obsolete Friendster) so it definitely worked for us.
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I have found some real people here which is definitely a nice change of pace. In most other social community sites, basically the communications seem to be more of a "spam war" or who can send you as many "buy this" or "join this" messages.
In general at BC, I have found that people tend to be down to earth and do provide useful information that all of us can use. -
Friends here are not whose blogs you like. I have many friends, but I don't visit their blogs because they are not interesting to me.
So I make friends with people with whom I like chatting with. For this, this 'Discussions' forum is the best place to decide.
My two rupees
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Everyone has bad experiences with strangers when they have a blog. And it's pretty easy to tell when someone isn't really interested in any sort of relationship.
I think it's how we react to that fact that's important. I try not to put up defenses that take out potential friends put it's difficult. At least it is difficult for me.
And I'm pretty tired after working and planning my blog. I really need to have designated days when I don't look at it. Just go out and try to socialize and read other blogs. -
At the moment, i agree friends are a bit laughable, we don't really use the data much around the site and you don't really benefit too much from adding a friend.
However, we are launching something huge this week that will give your friends list a whole new meaning and make BlogCatalog seriously addictive. Stay tuned! -
I can't feature being upset by anyone adding me as a friend. Who cares? I only reciprocate when I see they've taken an active part here @ BC or at my blog. Which are very few. I'd have to check for sure but I think I've added perhaps 30 friends myself in the 8 months I've been here. Why the fact that random people are adding you to their friend list is a bother is baffling to me. Just block the spammers who abuse it and move on.
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I'm just getting the hang of how this works. I got into blogging about two years ago and then quit pretty quickly since I really don't get the technical stuff. I started up again and I want to learn and this friend stuff is an interesting point. I've picked someone to be on my list when I've liked what I read and want to go back and follow up. I've had a couple pick me that when I went to their site it didn't make any sense so I didn't pick them back. This is actually interesting timing since I went to my account and my friends list disappeared. Maybe the universe is telling me something.
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I have found some of the most fascinating blogs, and people through random friend messages. I haven't got too much time to spend, but I spend most of it here and on blogs I found here.
Besides, who can have too many friends??
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artscapes, interesting question.
I actually think someone can have TOO MANY friends. The real concern is the quality of friends vs. the quantity of friends. Keeping in touch, actually sharing life on life, and making an impact on each other requires time. The more friends you have, the more difficult it will be to give them more of your quality time.
Personally, I tend to "add friends" with those I feel I can build up a genuine relationship with.
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Perhaps the controversy really stems from how the word "friend" itself is interpreted. If you use the word the way you would in the "real" world, you are bound to be either annoyed or disappointed. If you think of it just as an introduction to someone who could be either very interesting or blatantly self-serving, then your expectations are probably more in accordance with the reality of on-line communicating. I've only been doing this blogging thing for a couple of weeks and looking at profiles for people who have put me down as a friend is an easy way of seeing new blogs in a way that gives me a different perspective than just scrolling through categories. Just my 2 cents' worth............
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"I'm not sure how much i should give away, but you may want to go through your friends list this week and update your top 10."
Okay, so who saw this from Thegoodknife and immediately started looking at their friends listings?
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I have met plenty of charming individuals through Blog Catalog. And plenty of miscreants too. (Like that awful Kevin person).
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I have not been here very long and I am a little picky when it comes to adding people as friends. When Stop smell the flowers (or whatever it is) asked me to add them and join their community I wrote back and said I felt I like I was the wrong type for them. I have looked at quit a few blogs and add them as friends only if I like their sites. I also agree about the chatbox/shoutbox thing. I think it rude as hell to say " hi I am in desperate need of traffic, I don't care about you just visit my site"
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There is a very wide definition for friendship, some friends are close (are better family then family) if they needed a place to stay you wouldn't think twice, lifetime friends, others are people you are friendly with but have no commitment to (go to lunch with once in a blue moon), and then there are the mere acquaintances (polite weather talk).
Almost everyone I have met on this forum, I have found interesting and very helpful. As in life there is always someone who will try and use you under the false assumption of being a friend, so I guess I pretty much expect to find that in any area of my life, including blogging, or internet business, or internet forums. I have also learned that a good friend doesn’t necessarily have to mean they live right next to me, or speak to person to person.
I have tried to make sure that I visit every person’s blog at least once that has intrigued me with thier comments to these posts or has added me as a friend. I also comment on their blogs too, because I genuinely care about the person writing, and yes, I find the ones who are just in it for the money, ad blogs, but that is okay too, that is the niche that they want to be in.
I have made some good fun friendships here (you know who your are!), and I have learned so much helpful information and I know that if I hadn’t taken one step farther by reading their blog and chatting on this, then I may never have met them. And that would be a sad thing.
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I keep posting , discussing and adding friends - i do the odd shout (but not as much as i should - isn't it another form of rss feed? but with a selective audience)
Thats social networking - i can't claim that every post is going to be the most marvelous piece you've ever read but perhaps one day you will see a title or a link that takes your fancy and so will start your own journey. -
I am on here off and on. So I don't always feel on the "in" when I am on here. Not complaining because I think you get what you give. I too hate for people to add me as a friend and ask for a review or x change links when they fill the chat box with spam. I used to accept anyone, but I am learning. I only add people who's blogs I like. I do try and visit, but I also am an entrecarder and that takes so much of my time.
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I know a lot of them are spammers, but I like to give everyone a chance. You never know who might truly be interested in your blog. Time will tell. I'm a little gullible BTW
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I tend to be picky when I add a friend to my list. If I like your blog I'll add you. I only know if I like your blog if I've been there a few times.
I'll tell ya too, if I see a person has only been on BC for a little bit and they have 12 pages of friends I start to think they're just spammers. If they added me as a friend two hours ago and I'm as far back as page 2 on their friends list and I just got on the list I know they're just spamming me. I'm picky with who I add. I also revisit blogs via the friends list so it's not just an inactive list of archived avitars.
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Nope, sure didn't. Is posting an an old thread not a good thing cause I saw it on the sidebar and thought it sounded interesting. Suppose I should look at the date next time or maybe just consider my reply a new birth for the thread? Perhaps? Just asking........
Thanks for making a girl feel rather stupid. I'm not sure why that was necessary.
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Well,what do you expect? This is a forum where nobody knows nobody,just promoting blogs. So, sure, not my definition of friendship...But does not mean you won't be able to find some here. I'm sure there are plenty of people who share your interests, just that they're probably not the ones adding you as a friend...
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I can see everyone's points...but I have to agree with the OP based on what I think is what he/she was referring to... people looking for traffic. Period. Someone posted in this thread that they keep in regular contact with their friends... but um, I was friended by them and I haven't gotten any love from them since, lol. But perhaps that's because I did not friend them back- since I have little interest in making money.
I also think that there are a lot of newer bloggers that take the term 'friend' very litterally. And there are those who abuse the term and figure us quite gullible.
The way I see it, it's nice to be called 'friend', I mean it's not a horrible way to greet a person (even if they are complete internet strangers....ahem) but it's akin to someone calling me 'dear'. I'm not their dear and I really wish they would consider the reality of that before repeatedly doing so. So unless you really want to get to know me and would stop for me on the side of the road, vs. hoping I'll give you my gas since i'm not going to be using it anyways... i'm going to be picky (and almost-durn-near litteral) in my choice to befriend you.
I don't think anyone would really complain about genuinely interested people adding them as a friend. Every relationship has to start somewhere. (And sometimes people loose interest.) Then ya got the spammers who don't think they are spammers because they really beleive in their messege too. So they toss the 'friend' word around the worst.
All in all, I think I just have an issue with people thinking I'm gullible. It's one of them itty bitty little things that really gets my panites in a wad. But at least I admit it, lol. -
I don't add "spammers." I have to REALLY like your blog to add you as a friend. I do show some "occasional" link love to those who have given me theirs. I try to do to as many as my friends blogs as possible.
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I usually add people whose blogs I like or with whom I've had interaction here. Then I get their feed into my dashboard. I may not visit their blog for every new post, but I'll also see what they've stumbled and tweeted, so I can check those out, as well. That often leads to some very interesting places.
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