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George Bush Best president to ever hold office
Posted by tenshi319 • 10/04/07 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: best president ever, bush, President, president bush, worst president
Just kidding I know you think He's not so what has he done to piss You off.
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WHAT are you smoking??? I WANT SOME!! -
Ask the Koreans, Iraqis, Afghans and Osama.....-
What do you think they would say.
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I would ask osama but bush says he don't spend much time worrying about him any more. Yet he uses him to put fear into the people of his own nation. I don't think he will ever be seen.
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Oh its good.
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gimme gimme
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every cute, small, warm, fluffy thing on the planet just died cuz you said that.-
I want to see reactions to this kind of statement.
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so do i, dammit!
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The internet has made it that far Yet.
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September 11th 2001-
and this means what in relation to GWB?
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I think most people in this country are tired of hearing and talking about it. We are stuck with the asshole for another year and the political machine which will choose our next president is already cranking along.-
cranking along and the democrats show every sign of driving off the cliff and managing against all odds to lose yet again. In 2000 I was horrified because I felt that Bush took over the government despite never being elected. In 2004 I first felt it would be a great change election and was stunned at the outcome. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that now in 2008 the Democrats are showing every sign of nominating a candidate who can't possibly win for reasons that seem quite clear to me and apparently are against all odds going to lose again against the most incompetent and un-popular incumbent in living memory.
(Taking two xanax and remembering why I stopped hanging out a dailyKos and stopped talking about politics.)
Grep clue, people. -
You, know, ultimately somebody feels that way every four years, and yet we continue to muddle through. That's the power and the buaeuty of the system we have in place. Though at some point we will most likely damage it irreparably, I think we are not yet there.
I have hope that our children are smarter than we.
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The average American's life has not gotten worse since Bush has taken office, but people love to bitch about anything they can. Bush is not the worst president ever, and has done a much better job than his predecessor.-
by what freaking standards?
unemployment skyrocketed, health care got worse. by most of my standards, i'm worse off now than i was when he took office.
my opinion ... he is definitely one of the worst in recent history. i can't wait to see where history puts him in another 50 years or so. -
This guy is the worst set back America could ever had.After 911 he signed intolaw that china could make the American flag and ship it to the USA knowing we would all be buying flags.
What a nice guy that cant find Bin laden.
I heard this From Bernnie Sanders.
and he said it him self" you may have noticed I have a few flaws"
You Don't say george. -
Someone is just SLIGHTLY high on the kool aid.
Dude, ever hear of the constitution? Yeah, we barely have one anymore. Oh and that quote about not being interested in nation building? Yet here we have Iraq (and don't you DARE mutter weapons of mass destruction - there was no faulty intelligence, there were just greedy politicians) Years later, no Bin Laden. Iraq a shambles with no end in sight. Plummeting dollar. Millions without healthcare. Foreclosures astronomically up. Just what was it you were saying? The average American hasn't suffered?
Good GOD!
Talk about not paying attention. -
You forgot the housing collapse because of the sub prime lending fiasco.
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the same as septhember 10th 2001
what is the body count between him and "42"-
please get in to detail its hard to tell where You are going with that comment.
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yes, please, i'm very confused by what you're saying.
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Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Have we found? all we found is Oil.
He is holding world's most prestigious place, with his prejudice.
Bill Clinton is the best president that I would ever like to see.-
All we found we weapons of mass deception Aka Fox news.
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Well, for starters, he lied to get our country into an illegal, immoral war that was totally uncalled for that has cost the lives of nearly 4,000 young men and women, plus ruined the lives of thousands of others who will be maimed for the rest of their lives. He caused the loss of life for thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens who had nothing to do with 9/11. And our great grandchildren will suffer the huge debt he has given to them and their children. -
It think it would be easier to talk about what he has done right. That would fit on one thread.-
literally. a length of thread about an inch long. lightweight, not even a heavyweight like thread for jeans.
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Sure would.
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Er, let's see, he's given us exciting new terminology like, "the Decider"... -
What in a lifetime, or simply in eight years?
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"Er, let's see, he's given us exciting new terminology like, "the Decider"."
I definitely can't hold that against him. I do it all the time. My latest is "Blogrospection".
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Wait I'm the decider I make the decision and what I decided is that Donald dummy Rummmy to stay in office.
Now get out of here I made my decision. -
Now, here is a blogger who knows how to write attention-getting headlines! -
Thank You sir
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Without 9-11 there is no war
Without 9-11 there are no profits for his buddies
And I find it very strange that the son and the grandson of a partner to hitler can become president in this country. Follow the money is all I can say.
As far as getting past 9-11, well I vist a little bit of spine every week. Till this crime has been dealt with in a proper manner, I will not get past it, sorry.
As far as what he has done right, he kept his word on "No Child Left Behind" They are all on the front lines now.-
no child left behind has failed MISERABLY
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OK thanks for clearing that up and the mission is accomplished the mission of getting all his buddies companies into this war to profit.
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I hesitate to speak up here only because I DO NOT want to defend GWB. However, despite his foibles and missteps, most of what I'm reading here is the extreme left propaganda machine output. If Democrats want Libertarians to be more inclined to lean toward them when we don't have a candidate, you have to stop repeating the party line and throwing out the same soundbites all the time.
We didn't belong in Iraq because there were no WMDs. On the other hand, Bush was not the head of the CIA or whomever collected the data that said that Saddam did have WMDs. He acted on information that he had every reason to believe. Pres. Bill believed the info as well, but he chose not to act on it. Question: If the WMDs had been there and ready to use, would you all be praising Bush? Or, God forbid, if the WMDs had been released on us while we were in Afganistan would you be lambasting Clinton for not acting when he should have?
Also, in one breath you say GWB is stupid and in the next you say he masterminded some elaborate plot to create the 911 tragedy so we could go to war and his business buddies could make lots of money. Right. He's an idiot savant.
And why is it that Democrats in the trenches seem to buy into this We v. They, Poor v. Rich crap? ALL politicians have money. ALL politicians have excellent health care, private schools for their kids. ALL politicians live a very comfortable life and hobnob with others who can afford million dollar homes. The WEALTHY Deomocrats do NOT care more about the poor, downtrodden folks than the WEALTHY Republicans. They all care about THEMSELVES.
Right now Bush seems to be a pretty horrid president. However, I believe truly that the only way we can adequately or correctly judge a presidency is by looking back 20 or 30 years. Only in retrospect, when todays politics are not the issue, can we really see the truth and know the impact it has had.
And for the record, I have issues with the last president, too, but I'm willing to give him credit where it's due. I really hate the propaganda that comes from either side.-
which comments are you speaking to specifically?
i know that i personally think bush is an idiot and a dumbass. but as for all of this conspiracy crap ... or, to be more temperate in my phrasing ... all of these ideas that "the gov't knew this or that" ... i do think that some of the upper officials knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, for example. bush believed what he was told. the shame here is that the upper officials knew how easy it would be to manipulate bush.
for me, the CIA and indeed, any intelligence agency is problematical. they say things that aren't true, but look like they might be based on their evidence. they don't say things taht are true, because they don't have enough evidence. after whatever it is happens (going to war and finding now WMD or getting bombed because there were) it's very easy to armchair quarterback and say "we should have known." hindsight tends to be 20/20 ... and i'm more concerned with who collects our intelligence, how they collate it, and how they derive their answers.
regardless of who the president is, i don't trust the current CIA.
crap, someone's knocking at the door. I don't know people in black suits, ya think i should answer it?
seriously, tho, i don't trust them. but i also don't know the solution either, so we have to deal with what we have. -
Opposition to Bush does not necessarily amount to people parroting a so-called "extreme left propaganda machine," whatever the heck that is.
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Democratic machine? Give me a break. The people speaking out against what's happened in our country are people who can see, hear, read, and think. Where is your brain?
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"The people speaking out against what's happened in our country are people who can see, hear, read, and think. Where is your brain?"
So my choice is agree robotically with your every nuance and position or admit that I am a blind, deaf, illiterate non-thinker who has misplaced his brain? I don't guess there's much point having a *discussion* at that point, eh? -
Mark, "Opposition to Bush does not necessarily amount to people parroting a so-called extreme left propaganda machine"?
I don't believe she said that. I believe what she said was "However, despite his foibles and missteps, most of what I'm reading here is the extreme left propaganda machine output."
You have rephrased her statement in a way that is inaccurate. Her statement allows for plenty of room for opposing bush without resorting to extreme left propaganda. And I'm sure you don't really mean to say that you do not know what extreme left propaganda is, or that there are no parties dedicated to the dispensing of it? Just as there are equatable propaganda and propogandists on the extreme right.
If you disagree that any of the statements in this thread (or even simply disagree that it is most) are not derived from that source, that is one thing, but to pretend that it doesn't exist, or that scorpy's comments were further reaching than they are is not worthy of what i know of you. -
Um that "extreme left" doesn't exist, at least not in any real number. And I for one am sick of being labeled as such any time I oppose Presidential "policy".
Funny how the majority of the nation is suddenly "extreme left"
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I do not believe in a Party, I am an American. It's so funny how many people you talk to and they say, "I'm not into politics" but they just blindly vote for a party. Do some research, I remember "W" was asked on his way to the top, "Do You Know What Taliban is" his response "A Rock Group"
As far as masterminding anything, lol, he needs help finding the door - but others who do have the brains and the $ can create a concept. Masterminding is so over rated, a media prop, very few people can really be accused of masterminding anything.
People from all parties are earning from this, I wonder how much ketcup is being sold in Iraq. As I said I am an American, I do not follow lies because of a party.
Plato once said
"The goverment has the right to lie to the people for the good of the
nation"
Not for the good of a select few.
I am not a Democrat nor a Republician. I am and American with dead family, and want a truth to become public. Nothing more, Nothing less.-
You know, this kind of "he needs help finding the door" stuff doesn't help anything at all. He was educated in the same schools as Clinton. That he is less adept a public speaker does not make him stupid, unless you want to label Reagan Brilliant too.
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Let's leave out the "what-ifs" because they are irrelevent.
I never much liked Bill Clinton until George W. Bush became president.
Bill Clinton balanced the budget, won the wars he got the country into, and maintained good friendships with all of our allies. Just that shows the great competance desparity between the two presidents.
Bush simply has surprised me over and over again by showing himself to be less competent, more divisive, and more delusional, than I previously imagined and I started with low expectations. I expected mediocrity-- what I got made mediocrity look like a virtue.
On the WMD issue: Clinton did believe Iraq was developing WMDs-- that's why he maintained no-fly zones, defended an autonomous Kurdish territory, and bombed suspected military sites controled by the Ba'athist regime after the UN arms inspectors were kicked out.
Oh yeah, and when Clinton did make strikes against al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, did the Republicans support him? No. They attacked him viciously.
Bush staged a full scale invasion after the arms inspectors were back in Iraq and before they could finish their inspections. Bush simply didn't care one way or another what the truth was-- he just wanted to invade. Plus he predicated the invasion on a ridiculous conspiracy theory about operational connections between al-Qaeda and the Ba'athists-- and the evidence he had Powell present to the UN was such obvious nonsense that it isn't even funny-- what was our evidence of the mobile weapons labs? Photographs? Video? No "artist conceptions."
One thing that Bush did right? He followed the CIA plan for the toppling of the Taliban regime that had been hatched up during the Clinton administration. Of course once we got to the Battle of Tora-Bora, Rumsfeld and Cheney got their hands into the pie and proceded to mess things up-- since they refused to provide military support to CIA special-ops units on the ground until the entire operation was handed over to the Pentagon--and bin Laden got away.-
Both sides of the Aisle seem to be quite adept at messing over the plans of the people who could actually prosecute armed conflict successfully.
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I may be one of the few people to concede that Bush isn't an idiot. Idiots don't find their way to the presidency alone, other idiots have to vote them in. (And twice for good measure. I'd say that says more about the lack of intelligence of the American people myself.) But he definitely isn't intelligent enough to be running the country.
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You got that correct my friend 2x stupid we are indeed.
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I was ambling through this thread quite content until I came to:
"Well, for starters, he lied to get our country into an illegal, immoral war that was totally uncalled for that has cost the lives of nearly 4,000 young men and women, plus ruined the lives of thousands of others who will be maimed for the rest of their lives. He caused the loss of life for thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens who had nothing to do with 9/11. And our great grandchildren will suffer the huge debt he has given to them and their children."
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"Without 9-11 there is no war
Without 9-11 there are no profits for his buddies
And I find it very strange that the son and the grandson of a partner to hitler can become president in this country. Follow the money is all I can say."
And rather than someone calling those statements out, we get:
"OK thanks for clearing that up and the mission is accomplished the mission of getting all his buddies companies into this war to profit."
Those statement are propaganda and spin. If someone from the Right comes here and spouts their crap, I'll gladly call them out as well. Unless Alan or Dane or someone beats me to it.-
i'll disagree with you on the first quote to a certain extent, but yeah, the rest of it just confuzzled me, so i ignored it, the same as i would similar crap from the Right. unless either the lefty or the righty happened to hit one of my hot issue buttons, then i'd prolly go on a serious tirade. i try to keep those to a minimum.
i'd like to thank everyone for these threads, btw ... this is the most i've participated in any kind of political thread ever ... i usually get so peeved at the partisan spin and bullshit that i can't speak coherently. lol -
These are very good discussions, I agree. And I'm taking a serious look at Ron Paul now because of these threads.
No candidate ever agrees with me on everything and I don't have one issue that drives me. I like Lieberman and Obama on the one side, Rudy and Thompson on the other. Not sure they have much in common, just my impressions at this point. But now I like Ron Paul better than any of them, pending his views on a few things I've yet to hear.
That is, unless Dane decides to run. Then I'm voting for him.
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So let change the law to allow him four more years what harm could that do huh!
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tenshi ... step away from the drugs ... you're scaring me now.
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I was just kidding some people would love that how ever. I would be moving my keyboard to Canada if this did happen.
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lol i know you were ... but it was STILL a scary thought!
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It sure is.
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As non American, I'm finding this to be a very strange experience -
How so do you talk about your Government. There is a saying I love my country but right now I don't agree with the government and what they make us stand for around the world.
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I am not sure that I understand the concept of loving a country. Is it the governmental structure? The piece of earth? The flag? Love, I think, is for people. -
madame X
Very good question
In my case the beach...maybe I should say..I love the beach
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Facts are not ( propaganda and spin )
research before you label.-
Now what does that mean?
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I don't lile to talk politics. I just watch the actions of all Governments and their cohorts and take the necessary steps to live my life with my own set of values. And yes I love all countries not just much as my own.
The land of Oz...a place with beautiful beaches and it is gradually becoming a place of cultural diversity, and I like that very much.-
OK where is that In the real world I love my country and will die to defend it from evil no matter where ever that evil may be. We should be working on tighter boarders and not taken over other countries that had nothing to do with 911. I hear you on taken step to live a better life but the more You know the better you are.I would really like to Know where you are from not in a mean way you have a right to your opinon.
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But not everyone likes it, right? Surely the same kind of controversy occurs in your homeland, though you might choose not to participate?
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Apologies. Oz = australia, I thought you'd get the abbreviation
and no need to worry, all the borders are getting tighter. -
Acoustic, I knew where you meant because I have a number of Aussie friends, but the difference in pronunciation from your country to mine makes all the difference--"Australia" in Americanese doesn't begin with the "ah" sound that abbreviates to "Oz"; here it sounds more like AWWSTRALIA
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Thanks ... and I'm still working on To-MATE-OH instead of tomarto
I knew of some Danes that were arguing over 'Weg et ables' or 'Wegtabulls'
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Love your sentiment.
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tenshi319, I just laughed at the title lol-
Glad to help.
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OZ sorry I should have got that from OZ plus beaches since you have more beach then anywhere in the world.
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No one is better then George.
Burns that is. -
I don't care a whole lot about the opinions of the [North] Koreans, Iraqis, Afghans and SERIOUSLY don't care about the opinion of Osama. (does that make me bad?)
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I now hate all types of bush.
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Today bush defended his beat them until they talk program.
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> Today bush defended his beat them until they talk program.
That's okay, John McCain voted to support that same program, so it can't be bad.
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Did You say John McCain oh then the world is just fine what was I worried about Lol.
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Well yes, McCain said he's against torture, so if he supports Bush's interrogation policies, they must not be torture.
Right? That is how it works? After all, John McCain is an honorable man. Isn't he?
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Oh of course he is.
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George Bush is a puppet. They all are.
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George has been the funniest president, I think. He made lives of comedians so easy. Like when he defended a decision he made on a children's bill last week, he said CHILDRENS DO LEARN. Childrens! You don't have to do anything else than roll the clip and instant laughing.-
I agree He says funniest things to bad it at the county dime. We need a leader and when we have one I hope he makes me laugh in a good way.
But George is funny when he talks and walks.
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The Patriot Act which is in contradiction to the US constitution.
Compare them sometime, and ask yourself, if you are an American, if you are free. -
George Bush is a dumbass, half of the things he says he doesn't understand because it's not him saying it, but the people who prepare his speeches. -
HELLO NO he must go! errr I don't know whom was worse George or Reagan? lol -
Starting yesterday it was past time that the American people got behind every effort to impeach the Bush Administration and remove it from office. Failure to do so just encourages the next administration to be just as bad if not worse.
If our Congress had any guts it would have acted on our behalf months ago and gotten rid of this corrupt regime.
I would encourage each of us to call all of our relatives, friends and neighbors and provide them with the facts for Impeachment. Secure their support and participation in the impeachment movement. Enlist every group, or organization with which you are associated to take active roles in the struggle.
We are encouraged by the scores of City Councils across the country which have passed Impeachment Resolutions. We must support their efforts by organizing impeachment activities in every community.
We must organize campaigns to persuade every City Council which hasn’t done so to pass an Impeachment resolution.
I would encourage everyone to focus on political and other leaders in your area and persuade as many as possible to speak out for impeachment and sign on with ImpeachBush.org. Where appropriate, urge elected state, or local officials, political leaders, or qualified leaders to run for office in 2008 against members of Congress who oppose impeachment.
This is our responsibility as citizens of this great country dear friends. We must do our part to rid our country of the Bushies.-
The problem is that there simply are not enough votes in the Senate to convict in an Impeachment trial (one needs a super-majority of two-thirds). Few, if any, Republican Senators would be willing to convict Bush and Cheney, no matter what evidence was presented to them. Ultimately, impeachment is a political solution to the problem. However, there is enough legal grounds for a prosecutorial solution. What are needed are independence prosecutors who can be charged to investigate the most egregeous acts of the administration and bring these cases to a trial by jury.
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I am not American, but my opinion as a citizen of the world who is watching and reading the news is that the Bush Administration, father and son, were the worst thing that happened to the World. According to my understanding, they helped creating the terrorist groups to their own profit, economical and political strategically speaking, once upon a time and when these groups failed to comply, they became the evil axis.
Time will tell, maybe, who is right and who is wrong.
The truth is that America, USA, is not alone in the world, and USA economics depend of the other continent's ones.
As Americans, you have the responsibility to use your brains and elect and demand better administrations for your country, as we should do in ours. Power is truly on the people side and consumer side, which can be the same, some times. Slowly we will get there, if the world still exists. Meanwhile, a lot have to suffer and perish. The Bush are only ponds, we are the Kings. Wake up.-
You are so correct we need to do better it's our name they use for their gains.
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Quote I don't put much thought into where Bin laden is any more.
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