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going to strip clubs ... what do you think?
Posted by erinelizabeth • 10/28/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: clubs, girls, gross!, MEN
What do you think about men going to strip clubs? He only goes maybe once every two months and always with the same friend who is in a bad marriage. But they go for like 5 hours. REALLY?
It bothers me .... it grosses me out. But this is who he was before he met me, so I know it's nothing personal.
aren't visits to strip clubs main focus to get you arosed (THAT BOTHERS ME)....
what do you think? (no need to be graffic)
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i was a huge strip club addict at a tender age of 6. jk, hell noh ~ strip clubs are for people who dont get the very the expressive openness in their relationship and mostly at the side of women , making men to go for strip clubs and in reality, men shud realise that they can solely key out that required openness in relationship if they are ones feeling deprivation and vice versa for women... had a case in Nat Geo Detectives where a happy couple killed each other coz the guy started loving the strip girl
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see - he is a very sexual person. And I know i keep him very happy in that part of the relationship. i have told him I am uncomfortable with the clubs, but that has been something he has done forever - so I guess I have to understand.
I think it jsut bothers me to think he will get excited to see one of the strippers..... YUCK!
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I don't know. My bf looks at porn and it doesn't bother me; sometimes we look together; not that I am into it, but I can look if that's something he wants to share
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I don't think all men do have that side. My husband, who is the most sexual man I've ever known, has zero interest. None. Zilch. Nada. Has not gone in the 12 years I've known him. He also could care less about porn, and doesn't find it arousing. Go figure. I actually don't mind porn and would watch with him on occasion, but he just doesn't find it even remotely interesting.
I guess it just depends on you and how you feel. If this is your only issue with him, I'd say you guys are doing well! -
I wouldn't worry about it myself to be honest. At the same time as I KNOW that not all men do that, I still wouldn't worry about it. Like SweetViolet said, as long as it's not interfering in your relationship, (apart from you not liking it) I wouldn't worry. But then again, I used to be engaged to a male stripper once so I might be a bit more relaxed with these sort of things than the average girl. (And I didn't break off the engagement because he was a stripper, I just realised that was the only interesting thing about him and that is why I broke it off. :D)
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Oh hell no. I would not date a guy who visits strip clubs. I think strip clubs are sad and pathetic. It's ok for an 18 yr old who is curious, but men need to grow up, IMO.
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See, I like it best when the stripper touches my wife...just a little fantasy goes a long way when we get home...or just rent a hotel room for the night.
See, when we go, it's not the MAIN thing for the night. Maybe goes we have kids, and getting out is not a usual as it used to be. So when we get the chance we go crazy!! Dinner, movie, drinks with friends, club or go see one of our favorites bands in town...we make it a complete date.
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Remember 8th grade boys? This is what men become when they walk into a strip club. There is alcohol, bright lights, loud music and breasts. Basically, they all get coned.
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I have never been to a strip club in my life so I guess I shouldn't comment. Never stopped me before!
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. To me it is a form of entertainment. Like going to the movies, or horse races, or sports event, whatever. As to the people doing the entertaining. We all use our given talents to make a living.
Back when we lived up north, there was a so called "strip club" in a nearby town. In the early morning they ran a topless donut shop. Seriously. I always wanted to stop in for a cup of coffee and a couple of donuts,,, but I drink my coffee black!-
@erinelizabeth,
My above comment was mostly about strip clubs in general.
The question for you to answer, "Why is your significant other going to a strip club?" To me it is similar to something like "Second-Life" on the computer. If it is only a form of entertainment, a way to shed the day's stress, all well and good. But, if it becomes a replacement for real-world relationships, you have a problem.
Another example, when a guy goes to a James Bond movie, he fantasizes about being Bond and beating the bad guys. When he starts acting like Bond at home you have a problem.
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I think it weird men get it on looking at girls the same age as their daughters.
No, I would not have dated a man or married a man who was into strip clubs and it has nothing to do with a lack of security. I am not going to judge people for doing it, or the women "the product" as they are called in the biz, but it is a business catering to needs and perceptions that are not what I was looking for in a partner. -
well, obsession takes over the consciousness sometimes or say more of the times and so addiction... anyways, have a gud day and lyf plus i had ur name analysis done @ www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/the-hidden-power-of-a-name#comment_648623
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on the surface this seems like a rather straightforward question, but it is anything but.
it is loaded with everyone's baggage.
i suspect getting a bunch of opinions about strip clubs is not what you need.
therefore, i think to respond to your question, my opinion and experience has little to do with your issue.
but it does appear there are problems brewing, and based on what you have written, i imagine it originates in the delusional thought that once you were together, "he'd see the light and drop this no good fun with the boys".
you need to have a discussion about how you are feeling about it, otherwise your growing angst will start to come out sideways.
you also need to be honest and explain what happened that you were fine with it before but now it is hurtful.
and don't demand/expect any changes soon.
although it is possible he will decide engaging in behavior that is hurtful to you is not what he wants to do, it is equally possible he may not.
so i'm curious, what happened that you changed your mind about this? or was it a case of thinking he'd change?-
oh no .... when he and i started dating he knew I didn't LOVE the fact that he visited these places sometimes - but I it was something he did before he met me. I would LOVE for him to stop, but if this is something he did wiht his friend before me - then i have to be ok with it. I have been to one a few times with groups of girls. I think it just stems from me thinking I should be the only girl he should want to look at, BUT I know that's not going to happen.... I mean in reality we are always curious about the other gender. he has been very open and even invited me to come. I was just wondering if my feels of "grossness" were ok (I would guess any feelings that are MINE are ok though)
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Another thing that has turned me away from strip clubs is the fact that I've seen strippers at frat parties before. However, they did things that were so extreme that I've never even seen happen in porno's before (I'd get an instant "comment removed" for going into the slightest details). Standing around with a bunch of gross dudes watching things like this isn't my cup of tea.
I'm pretty sure strip clubs are tamer (they'd have to be or I'm pretty sure they'd be shut down), but even still, hanging out with gross dudes and watching stuff like that isn't appealing at all. -
Someone has to stuff dollar bills in those girls panties, otherwise they would be unemployed like a lot of other people. Seriously though this is just one more thing for the self righteous to get excited about. The question can be flipped around to ask about women going to them as well.
Even if the main purpose of a strip club is to be aroused, so what. You say this as if arousal is a bad thing.
In the end going to strip clubs are no big deal for men or women, neither is working at one. -
Bachelor parties or an occasional yearly trip is about all I'm good for and I think that's fine.
I laugh at the "regulars" who go there thinking they'll find a girlfriend - most of the dancers that I've known have big mental, emotional and chemical dependency problems.
Yes, I did know a few exdancers when they became bartenders.
Five hours, every other week? Sounds expensive! Is this place just topless, or fully nude?
Unless the guy is rich, he's probably sipping his drink and tipping very lightly to stay there five hours. Most dancers hate customers like that.-
he goes once every 2 months. I am certain his friend is the one tipping big. I am not overly upset about it, but just a little grossed out now that it's a weekend he might go. It worries me for some reason. I do not think he wants to date a stripper or anythign like that. I woudl like to think he just goes cause that's what his friend likes to do and they've been doing it for years.
yes.....5 hours grosses me out.
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I think xmarks and crane are right, it isn't as much what WE think, it is what you feel and having a partner who respects your feelings. While you cannot ask him NOT to do things per se, there is room for discussion and compromise which are the hallmarks of a good relationship. Would you feel comfortable if he only went occasionally, and would he be willing to do that?
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well, every 2 months really is occasionally i think. We have been dating 6 months and he has only gone once so far. this weekend will be the 2nd time. He knows how I feel about it and tried to make light of it. Says they are just there are entertainment and more for his friend. I guess HIS wife is a prude. I need to relax about it. I know I do.
I guess I should have said in the post, that my EX went to a strip club years ago and didn;t come home that night. eh hooked up with some girl that was there for a bachl party. MAYBE that's why i am so worried about it. I JUST remembered that even happened. (glad i kind of forgot it). HE (my ex) was a nasty jerk though and my beau now is nothing like him. -
Every two months is predictable and planned, not occasional but is a different issue. My feeling is that he isn't willing to change his habits with a friend for someone he has only been dating for 6 months, nor for something he doesn't see as a big deal. It would not be fair to ask him not to do things just because you feel insecure, but it would be fair to let him know and see if there is a way you can be reassured OR you accept that you are imposing past history onto him and making yourself unnecessarily stressed. The important thing is that you both can talk about issues, be honest without making each other feel guilty or imposing things onto each other.
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I think that some strippers genuinely own their sexuality, and I think that's awesome. But in most cases I think they objectify women and solidify unresponsable sexual behaivior. I'm glad that my boyfriend gets more joy from watching me work the pole than some strange woman trying to make a buck.
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Watch it lotus...I truly believe if more women worked the pole every now and then at home, then there would be a LOT less strip joints around.
Strip joints are for fantasy for a lot of guys, just like a ball game is. A guy goes to the baseball game, and he wants to be the pitcher to strike out the final guy.
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I think some of this stems from a worry that the same will happen again as happened before, you are placing the blame for infidelity on the 'place' rather that the 'person'. If you trust him then you shouldn't worry about that.
However, you also said that it bothers you, so for that fact I think it needs to be sorted. As he only goes every so often this suggests he is not that in to it so he may be prepared to stop (he's not missing something he overly used to), suggest he does something else with his mate, you're not asking him to stop going out with the lads just to not go to a strip club. -
thanks for all your replies. I am trying to look at it in a positive light. He has been SO honest with me and if this is something they just ... do ... sometimes then I have to trust him regardless of MY past. I would not want him punishing me because of something one of HIS ex's did. I need to stop being so insecure .....
wish I knew how to do that
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My husband doesn't actually go to them, but it wouldn't bother me if he did. Then again, our friends will go as a group as a night outing for teh fun of it.
Often times they aren't going for the strippers, but rather the other entertainment it brings. We have a pretty decent (re: not sleazy) one here that offers premium drinks, great service, good music and a clean, comfortable atmosphere. It's actually better than most bars.
I also used to know a lot of strippers, so sometimes it was like visiting with friends
That said - I would only be bothered if he were sneaking out to go to strip clubs in a non honest sleazy sort of way, if that makes any sense. -
I go with my husband. I even suggest it to him, if it has been a while since he's been in one.
As long as he goes home with me, there's nothing to be disturbed about.
As far as the "if he respects my feelings" stuff---baloney. He's a guy...they are hard wired that way and it has NOTHING to do with you. You can guilt or manipulate him into not going, but you can't make him like it. You can even set yourself up for resentment, especially if his buddies get wind of it and tease him about being "whipped."
Trust me...as long as it is not an obsession that either damages your sex life (like porn and strip clubs become his sex life) or makes too big an impact on the budget, let it be. And if your real concern is that "something" might happen in your absence, then take a big girl pill and offer to accompany him.
"Sure you can go to the strip club, honey...just hang on a sec while I freshen up my lipstick..." -
I've never been to one (I wish I was joking). But from what I hear, the main focus actually does not seem to be to get you aroused. I honestly think that men go to these places to feel like a king. The way they describe it, they actually get a sense of inflated ego more than anything. I have a feeling that if I went, I would just feel like a broke bum with a hard on.
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personally... ive never been to a strip club but ive always been curious and im sure some time soon in my life i will take a trip down there just see probably with some friends... but it seems like its a think he does with his friends.. because you did say he even did it before you met him.. so yeah maybe its like there monthly outing you know.
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Holy Christ!, leave the guy alone. Don't be one of these possessive insecure girlfriends. He's a guy, he likes women, let it be. If he's not cheating on you then there isn't a problem, and if your relationship is important to you, don't go with him.
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While I tend to agree that places like strip clubs are OK in relationships - chalking it up to "he's a guy, let him do what he wants as long as it's not cheating" isn't the best advice I've ever heard.
Number one, it's insulting to men. You're essentially saying he can't control himself, and simply MUST go.
Number two, it's insulting to women. You're saying that because men can't control themselves, than you'll just have to deal with your hurt feelings and hide how you feel, because, after all - he's a man. If you value your relationship than just hide the truth from yourself, ignorance is bliss after all.
Number three, it's insulting to relationships. You're saying that there is no room for compromise in a relationship with regards to personal boundaries, and, the woman just needs to suck it up because the man is going to do what he does, regardless of how it affects the relationship.
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It is a little insulting. I'm a Man and I don't cheat or feel the need to go to strip clubs. And I'm a fairly "Rough around the edges" kind of guy.
If it is causing her problems then it is a problem. However, in this case, I say that if it is only once very 2 months and he was doing it before they got together, she is being a little unreasonable. -
Anok, I respectfully disagree that it is a "Deal breaker" on the grounds that the OP says that this is who he was before he met her. If anything it would be a deal that she shouldn't have made in the first place.
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Wow Anok, you got all that from my 2 and a half lines? I didn't say any of the things you are attributing me.
You obviously need some help in comprehending my point. Please, read this part very slowly...slowly.
Men lust after women(unless the man is homosexual, then he lusts after men)it's what we are programmed to do, it's in our genes(jeans). It's not insulting to point this out. If ekim941 wants to pretend that he doesn't thats up to him. The fact is men don't need to go to strip clubs to lust after women, we just prefer it. I guarantee you if an attractive women is anywhere near the vicinity of a straight male, he's thinking dirty things & there's nothing wrong with that. It's not a control issue. I don't have to walk into every strip club I come across, but I would like to.
Women like to pretend that once a man becomes your bf or husband that all other women cease to exist to him, this isn't the case. Your husband or bf is your husband or bf because at one time he lusted after you. Just because he got you doesn't mean those things(hormones) that made him lust in the first place are gone.
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@erinelizabeth
I agree 100% with Anok's 1-2-3
Attending strip clubs with the boys is an insult to you and saying that it's all just fun and that he needs strange semi clad working women rubbing on him bi-monthly basis is bullshit. The good part is that you know what his regular activities are.
Some men never grow up, they just grow beer bellies, and he sure sounds like one of them to me. I'll bet his an armchair sports fan. Imagine him at age 40 slogging off to get his "fix".
Unless you will be happy to spend the rest of your life with a man who acts like a college boy, while you diaper his babies then I say dump him. -
Yeah, you're still trying to make the same old lame argument.
I never said that once you were in a relationship you were dead and oblivious to the attractiveness of others.
I said men can control their impulses, and not all men even go to strip clubs, read porn, and certainly they do not go around thinking 'dirty thoughts" about attractive women.
Give them more credit than that, please.
And if you think forcing someone to shut up and deal with hurt feelings about a subject in a relationship because having a discussion about it makes him feel like he's in a dictatorship is "compromise" than there's no wonder why relationships are utter failures today.
People don't understand the meaning of the words "respect" and "compromise", let alone how it should be applied in a serious relationship.
@Mike - you got milk with those Oreo's?
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You should get a job in his favourite club this would allow you to spend more quality time with him and also have the added bonus of knowing you can shake your money maker professionally.
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I think it is fine if he understands that the place offers a "fantasy". They are paid to show interest (and a lot more). Just like TV, it's not real. The whole experience is an illusion. As soon as you cross into the "regular" crowd, then there is a problem. We all need to escape sometimes. I have been, but never really enjoyed it for those reasons. As with every relationship, if he does something that you do not like, just let him know and maybe he will make his own mind up not to go with his buddy out of respect of your feelings. Not letting him go or nagging him about it will only make it seem that more dirty and make him want to go more.
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GO WITH HIM TO STRIP CLUB WEAR THE SKIMPIEST DRESS YOU OWN - GET A FEMALE DANCER AND GET LOST IN THE BACK ROOM. HE WON'T ENJOY HIMSELF WONDERING WHAT YOUR UP TO. THEN WHEN YOU GET HOME TOTALLY IGNORE HIM SEXUALLY AS IF YOU'VE BEEN SATISFIED WITHOUT HIM. NEXT DAY TELL HIM YOUR GOING BACK ALONE. THEN STAY OUT REALY LATE AND SEE HOW HE LIKES IT.
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How about you just love your bf until he gives you reason not to. A relationship is not a war, and the things we do as men and women are not supposed to be used as weapons against one another.
He's being honest with you about going out with his friends and staring at some boobs, don't play head games with him.
A side note: You're a fairly attractive woman, act like it. Be a strong independent woman, not a scared, weak, insecure one that needs her bf total & undivided attention to prove her self worth.
If you're secure with who you are, he'll either respect that or find someone else.-
Hmm, discussing the acceptable parameters of a relationship is playing head games?
I think not
In fact, that's what adults do in a relationship - they discuss and set parameters of what is and isn't acceptable behavior. Some people are perfectly OK with activities that others are absolutely not OK with. When you have two people with differing ideas of what is, and isn't OK, you have to sit down and come to a compromise.
Relationships are give and take - sometimes you have to give, and sometimes you get to take. But I'll guarantee you that you'll have to give a little to get a little.
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I never particularly felt comfortable in a strip club...as a man or as a woman; especially since the staff emphasis is to keep you inside to throw as much money around as possible. Somehow, the idea of spending 20 bucks sans tip to have a woman slide all over you doesn't sound like a particularly good deal to me.
But perhaps the guys can see it differently. After all, it wasn't too many weeks ago when msnbc reported that seeing women in bikinis really do make men more stupid. Perhaps it's tunnel vision? Perhaps a sudden attack of hypoxia? Perhaps I'll never understand men. I have a hard enough time with women. -
I don't understand the allure of strip clubs. If I were a stripper, I would get a big head about all these guys thinking I'm sexy. I would look down my nose at these losers who pay all this money for me to essentially just tease them. And I've heard they don't usually like to date patrons. And if I were a man, it would be an ego deflator to think that these strippers are looking down their nose at me and laughing at me.
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This occurs to me also, I think that is one reason that you dislike him going? It upsets you to think that he is one of the guys the girls are laughing at? Or that he is one of the ones who actually believes she 'likes' him? I know that if my guy went these are the things that would bother me, kind of a 'these women don't care about you in any way, they just want your money! I actually care about you, you big galloot!!' LOL
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Holy crap this totally goes with my blog from today.... about my last trip
pointlessbanter.net/2008/10/29/when-a-stripper-calls-you-a-gay-liar-is-that... -
after reading the comments that were written over the past 12 hours I must say it's amazing the range of ideas. I really thank you all for your input. I did tell him last night that I was uncomfortable with him going. I was MORE than honest about my past issue with strip clubs, my insecurity about strippers, and how i felt in general about him going somewhere on purpose to look at naked girls. He said that he would love for me to come with him and in the future he will make strong suggestions to his friend that maybe they just go to a bar or other place of entertainment. He reassured me very genuinely that I have NOTHING to worry about that it's just all in fun.
so this morning.... I feel better about it. we will see how i feel come saturday.
ps. It could be worse - I could be his friends WIFE who has NO CLUE her husband goes to these places when she is out of town. -
You ought to be happy he tells you. many men aren't so honest. And for you women who say your man doesn't go, either you are with him 24/7 or you never know. FYI strip clubs are open 24 hours in most cities.
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