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Grandpa is dying :-( Should grandma pull the plug? Help!
Posted by RioTheYorkiePoo • 4/04/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: alone, death, discussion, family, feelings, friends, grandma, grandpa, health, Help
Here is something I can't do anything about it
But maybe...If I print out you guys answers...
Please just write/post/give your honest opinion.
Thanks!!!
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pray for understanding, wisdom and courage. -
You have to follow your heart. Did your grandpa ever discuss what to do in a situation like this?-
Not with me...I don't know with grandma
But ONE thing I know he has been a fighter ALWAYS!
The nurse even told daddy today like this:
- "To be honest with you I never seen any
patient hang for so long like him...
If we take the oxygen tube from him he will
die in seconds...
It's like he is waiting for something...
For the whole family to come here, all his kids???
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Maybe if he's just hanging on there's a reason. I believe people have a sixth sense a year before my gram passed away I dreamt she died. Have you had any dreams or anything that seemed like some sort of message?
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Knowing what the dying person feels is a great help in making a very difficult decision.-
Yeah...I'm sure grandma knows
what he wants...wanted...
I don't know what to say...
But you know what is funny?!?!
Grandma has been saying that he is
not gonna make through this nite
for two weeks now...
I guess he does want to live:-)
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umm, not in favor of asking that here because it is a very serious and personal matter but anyways. If he is dying go be with him and with grandma. God bless him -
There are no two situations the same. I would pray.I would also be supportive of Grandma because this is one of the hardest choices a person could ever make. I would say that unless your grandma is totally at peace with such a choice, I would never pressure her to make it,nor would I allow anyone else to. -
It is such a personal thing, and not easy to answer what I would do. I like Pamela's answer.-
Yes, it is very, very difficult.
I'd rather have my loved one die naturally.
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If he is hanging on for something then I would pray that God would allow whatever it is to be settled before he goes. I was at a hospital once with a man whose wife was in a coma and was very near death. My brother went in and prayed for her and she came out of the coma long enough to forgive her daughter that she had not spoken to in a few years. She prayed with her pastor,told her family that she loved them, her husband that she had prayed for for many years gave his heart to Jesus and at peace she went to heaven as it was her time.
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Encouraging story.
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If he didn't leave a living will then I think it's up to her. If I were in that situation I would only want my husband making that decision. We've been together a long time and he knows how I feel about these situations. I would support her in whatever she decides.
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My prayers, and those of my family, are with you.
For what it's worth, my system of belief dictates that 'heroic methods' are not required to prolong life - but we're not allowed to hasten a patient or relative's death, either. In other words, I could ask my family to take me off a respirator, but I couldn't ask them to poison, smother, or starve me.
Sorry if that came out as being harsh. -
My compassion is with you and your family I will be praying for you.
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As much as I enjoy sophomoric humor, I don't think this is an appropriate thread for it.
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Bad, insensitive donkey. Come on. There are other, more appropriate places for you to cause trouble.
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He is filthy.
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You have to figure out what's right for her and the family. Never mind what any of us think. Talk it out as best you can. Maybe get the help of a counselor or member of the clergy.
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A personal matter YEAH...
Isn't your blog a personal matter as well? ;-)
Here is what I found online about blog...
Definitions of Blogs on the Web:
Blog is short for Web log. Blogs are publicly available web pages, with personal views and links expressing the opinions and observations of a ...
www.laredogroup.com/glossresourc.asp
A blog is an online journal where users post thoughts, comments or news in a chronological format. Updates are often frequent and done on a regular basis.
www.studiodog.com/web-jargon.html
personal Websites consisting of regularly updated entries displayed in reverse chronological order. Essentially an online diary or journal.
www.go4.ie/articles/web-jargon-explained
A blog is a user-generated website where entries are made in journal style and displayed in a reverse chronological order.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blogs
Personal but public I guess?:-)!
Got it? :-)
That's what we are trying to decide
travel or not to travel?
Thanks 4 the blessings
I really appreciate it!:-) -
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the nurses were trying to make daddy
help with this decision...you know...
Like:
- " Do you want us to pull the plug?"
But daddy goes like:
-" NO NO NO....I have NO nose or word on this.
My mom is the one to decide!" -
PamelaBaker WOW!!!
C??? Thank you so much 4 your comments!
It gives hope to anybody that has troubles!
God bless you!!!
but I guess in his case he would be
a vegetable...if he doesn't die:-(-
That may have been the case with this lady as well, but the window that she was given allowed her family to say good bye and not stand at her funeral full of regret and things left unsettled. My prayer is that he will go when it is his time, settled with family and with God and not one minute before... and God Bless You Too!
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My prayers are with you and your family. Especially your grandma, this is a decision only she can make. I'll pray that God gives her the wisdom to make the choice and grants her the peace to live with it.
My sympathies,
Blog Lady Dee-
Thank you so much!
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It depends on why he is being kept alive. I assume that there is no chance of recovery and that your grandfather has reached the end of his life. I extend my sympathy for your loss. But if he's on the machines because other people cannot let go, I believe that the hard decision should be made. Emotional neediness does not trump a 27-year-old mother who needs the machine for a few days after her car accident.
If your grandfather may be able to complete some unfinished business, however, whether emotional or financial, then I can understand continuing with the life support system until either he has a chance to do so or it is determined that he no longer can.
This is a terribly difficult decision. I would hope that it is made with the heart informing the head rather than ruling it. -
If Grandfather is aware (or might be at some stage) of the situation - then it should be his choice.
Quite often a person will stay until they give themselves permission to go.
Pamelabaker - the account of the coma and the prayer is so moving.
henry
ps: I've read the above and I wonder what I would have written 30yrs ago - age changes perspective and the younger members of the family should try and empathise with Grandpa's feelings, at the age he is. -
Artificial life support can cause a lot of distress and go on for a very long time. There are very specific tests that are done to show if an individual has any brain activity whatsoever - when that is gone, there is no way for a person to breathe on their own - ever - or to open their eyes, or to use their body in any way. There are no more thoughts, at least none that are measureable with state of the art testing that determines brain activity. From a spiritual point of view, who knows? We cause a lot of suffering sometimes by trying to delay, with technology, that which is natural and inevitable.
People are not removed from life support if there is any chance at all of recovery. Many remain in a "vegetative" state and do not die, even when the "plug is pulled". That's not up to anyone except higher powers, and it happens all the time.
My heart is truly with you, and I know it's a hard decision for anyone, but ultimately, the right answer will come, and it will bring a lot of comfort. -
When my grandma faced that decision she called for a family meeting right there in the hospital. After praying we decided to remove the artificial life support and if he lived it was God's will; if not it was God's will. He lived a little more than a month before the cancer took him. -
A BIG NOOOOOOOOOO! GOD GIVETH, GOD TAKETH!!!-
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I'd say that, regardless of your religious beliefs, it's more than "God." If there's a "plug" to pull, then the person is being kept alive by modern medical technology and one could argue that doctors are, in fact, preventing God from "taking away." Many make the argument that cases like Terri Schiavo, Karen Ann Quinlan, and countless others have come up in recent decades because people have less reverence for life than they did in the old days. I won't get into that issue here, but will say that comparison to past times is a bit tricky since, until very recently, these people would have already been long dead. And, as medical technology continues to improve, we're going to have more and more people in these kinds of situation. It's not a simple matter.
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