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Ugh I'm being sentimental lately... here's my post earthlyexplorations.blogspot.com/2008/05/honesty-equals-loneliness.html:P (shameless blog promotion?) No honestly I want your opinion....

Why is being honest so rare these days?

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  1. robertstevenson
    The link didn't work for me.
  2. earthlingorgeous
    Hmmmm... thanks Robert try this? earthlyexplorations.blogspot.com/2008/05/honesty-equals-loneliness.html

    But really is honesty a long forgotten realm?
  3. ekim941
    Here you go sweety, emoticons are fun but you can't put them at the end of your url

    earthlyexplorations.blogspot.com/2008/05/honesty-equals-loneliness.html

    @Rob, I was calling Gorgeous "Sweety", not you
    1. earthlingorgeous
      lol MIKE! hahaha yeah I noticed that too
    2. ekim941
      Honesty doesn't equal loneliness. I am very honest.

      Oh wait. . . .Maybe you're right.

      Nah, people love me for my honesty
    3. ekim941
      Oh, almost forgot to mention. That is a little hard to read with the text color almost perfectly matching the background.

      Sorry, EG, you wanted Honest
    4. earthlingorgeous
      I appreciate your honesty Mike

      Yeah, I read your blog and your remarks in there , particularly about your underwear and the fat girl hahahahaha... honesty can be hilarious sometimes refreshing!
    5. ekim941
      Just a note: That post was not about a "fat girl", it was what she was wearing and her amazingly high self-esteem. I applauded her for her self-image in that post.
    6. robertstevenson
      Posted in wrong place.
  4. morgantj
    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
    - George Orwell
    1. earthlingorgeous
      so let's all forget about honesty and wait until we are all buried with lies and the lies becomes the truth?
    2. morgantj
      um, no.
    3. globalgirl
      Ha. Fitting for George Orwell to say that one.
    4. earthlingorgeous
      haha sorry I am just being sarcastic? frustrated? why there are too many unhonest people these days?
    5. morgantj
      People seems to value their own comfort over truth these days.
    6. earthlingorgeous
      so that concludes my presumption... honesty is equals loneliness... when your brutally honest people evade you because you offend?
    7. morgantj
      Unless of course, you take comfort in the truth, and telling the truth.

      I have a passion for coming closer to the truth. A lot of my efforts involve simply taking out the garbage.

      I for one, am not lonely in my honesty, It is liberating as you say, and it is a beautiful romance of being true and coming closer to truth.
    8. linmei
      and find like-minded souls ... of course, it tests how willing you are to be brutally honest to
    9. morgantj
      Exactly. Also, the truth is only brutal to those that do not want to hear it.
    10. earthlingorgeous
      yeah I agree with that... the truth stings to those who don't want to hear it
  5. morgantj
    I think many are afraid of being honest becuase there are so many out there that are so easily offended these days. We are in this state of having to respect differences, If one speaks out honestly, there is always someone that throws out the "that's offensive flag." Or "your truth is different then mine." etc...
    1. earthlingorgeous
      hmmmm... I think if we all were used to being honest and take whatever is said (if bad) as constructive, I think honesty is the best way to go it's liberating and you don't have to live with all the lies or "white lies"
      you don't hurt people with the truth but you make them realize.
    2. morgantj
      exactly, if one is always honest, it is easy. and I agree, it is liberating. Not to mention, "If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything" - Mark Twain
    3. linmei
      Like morgantj said, many people are so easily offended, triggered.

      Sometimes, honesty is act of courage. You have to be willing to be shouted down or, perhaps even worse, be prepared to disappoint someone you are entwined with in some way. Perhaps, we are so attached to people's approval, affection, admiration, usefulness ... that it is seductive to not rock the boat. Being equanimous to the outcome, honesty naturally follows.
    4. earthlingorgeous
      yup Morgantj you don't have to remember anything and if you are not hiding anything you will not be afraid of the truth

      @linmei yeah we always seek aproval compromising the truth, it will take a million years to change this attitude... or never at all... acceptance is one of the basic needs in the heirarchy
    5. morgantj
      @linmei
      Ah yes, "attachments," the cause of much suffering.
    6. earthlingorgeous
      but when you are too detached they will call you an Ice Queen waaaaaah I've been called that way
    7. Anok
      Morgan I ♥ you!

      Yes, you are right. The truth hurts, and people want comfort, not challenges.

      Sometimes, and in some ways that is OK, but that lifestyle has intruded on every aspect of life, relationships, honesty and free speech.
    8. jafabrit
      Being honest/forthright and being offensive/rude are two different things, but I think many get them confused.
      www.hodu.com/just-rude.shtml

      I have never found being honest equaled loneliness, but there have been times where it has attracted contempt especially as a mother of a marine (an example is when I stated I was against the IRaq war from the get go and during the height of patriotic frenzy).

      What I have difficulty with are emotional liars, people who don't have the guts to admit they don't like something or find they are having a problem with something and start to harbor resentments. Trouble is they don't have the communication skills to talk about it and take the cowards way out and just fester.
    9. earthlingorgeous
      Anok, I am not brutally honest but when the occassion calls for it I am, I don't want my right to be stepped on and if I have to be bitchy about it so be it, they can live with their lives and be "friendly" to everyone but not me.

      Jafarbit, yeah emotional liars are real cowards.
  6. DarkAngelMe
    Watch House MD...you'll see the relationship between honesty and loneliness
    1. earthlingorgeous
      hahaha yeah he is brutally honest and people avoid him
    2. morgantj
      I love house!
    3. earthlingorgeous
      yeah satire rocks! you always find yourself saying "that is so true"
  7. wolfcreek
    Gorgeous...I'm not afraid to be alone. I'm afraid to forget a mistruth. I also lived with lies and telling lies at one point in my life, and frankly, the rush of freedom and release of stress from being accountable and responsible was far more refreshing.

    I'm not perfect. I live with that. I figure that if I can, then others should. We're asking politicians to live without indiscretion, and everyone to say things that don't hurt ANYONE's feelings. I'd rather hear your rant, and then have discourse for understanding, and if there's a need for apology, or retraction, then that's accountability based on truth. That's my role in life now. I have only one person to control, but I have many to mold. Realizing the difference will make the truth more valuable to people around us.

    Consider one drop in a pool of water, and watch the ripples spread to all areas it can find. That in an ocean can be considered a wave.
    1. earthlingorgeous
      Alone is different from lonely, I too am not afraid to be alone than to live with pretences, lies and secrets.

      I agree with you some people lie because they don't want to be responsible and accountable, they are cowards.

      I like things out in the open than keep it to yourself or else it will come out in another way, like maybe acne or skin disease, illness etc. or it may come out as an explosion.:p
    2. wolfcreek
      Or it could just kill you without warning...like cancer. And wouldn't we all have less to hide if clothes weren't such a part of society? Hard to lie when you know it's all hanging out.

      That's not a plug for nakedness, but it does make you think...
  8. earthlingorgeous
    hahahaha being honest and being a nudist is different hahaha

    Kill me without warning, this is already a warning

    But if people were used without clothes I think rape wouldn't be an issue as you will be warned as soon as you see the attention! hahaha!
    1. wolfcreek
      That is a valid arguement...gives a whole new meaning to Seeing them coming.
  9. DarkAngelMe
    'Seeing them coming' hi hi hi hi hi

    Sorry, what are we talking about?
    1. earthlingorgeous
      hahaha dark angel
  10. lindsay39
    As a woman, I see that men don't want honesty. They want to hear that they are the best thing since the creation of world. So if you get close enough to express some needs of your own, they are gone!
    1. wolfcreek
      I don't think men are that bad. Just as many women aren't open and honest in their relationships, either. I think its still a matter of connecting with the one person you can trust...then building the honesty and trust further through mutual attempts.
    2. earthlingorgeous
      I guess honesty starts when you have build trust... when there is not trust everything will be filtered out...
  11. Theresa111
    Gorgeous ? Is that you on the cover of the Vogue Magazine?

    "Honesty is the best policy." There is good reason for this motto. It is true. You can be honest and leave out some things. One doesn't always have to be so frank in putting what one wishes to say, "Out There."


    Every person experiences loneliness. It is how we deal with this time alone, which molds our character. One can be lonely in a huge crowd. It's what's in your head that matters. "Be here now." In the present.
    1. earthlingorgeous
      hi theresa yup that's me

      And yeah about leaving out some things that is what I meant by filtering what you have to say.

      And yeah it's all in the head, insecurity, frustration, loneliness, if you don't think too much or worry too much about your image to the world it doesn't really matter.
  12. acousticguitarist
    Crap..honesty is not rare

    Honesty = loneliness ...self indulgent garbage

    :-)
    1. earthlingorgeous
      well, acousticguitarist I applaud you if there are lots of people around you who are sincerely honest and doesn't filter stuff...

      when I say being honest = loneliness, they seem to think you are arrogant and detached when in fact you are just telling the truth.
    2. acousticguitarist
      I only see honest people everywhere

      change your friends fast
  13. voodooKobra
    I go out of my way to be honest. The result? Never had a girlfriend, but I've had plenty of D&D campaigns.
    1. acousticguitarist
      voodoo

      girls are nice
    2. Theresa111
      Fill me in please. What does D&D mean? Thanks.
    3. voodooKobra
      Dungeons and Dragons
    4. Theresa111
      Isn't that an addictive and scary game?
    5. voodooKobra
      It's fun, if that's what you're asking.
    6. earthlingorgeous
      lol theresa Doom3 is scary but fun I like!
  14. timethief
    @earthlingorgeous
    Unfortunately, there is so little contrast between the rust colored background on your blog and the font that I cannot read it
    1. earthlingorgeous
      Timetief sorry for that I guess not everyone has 20/20 vision
  15. HomeHaven
    why is honesty so rare these days? because society is losing it. values are like ropes of sand. great lyrics by the way. i love billy.
    1. earthlingorgeous
      yeah Home Haven I think society is losing it, and it's scary.

      I love Billy too nice balads great for sentimental moments haha especially Just the way you are
  16. katarokkar
    I love being honest. The people I hang out with think it's hilarious when I speak my mind. Obviously you need to be careful what/how you say things, but all in all, honesty is ideal for people who want friends that are positive and realistic. Also chicks dig it.
    1. morgantj
      Yes, I have found that too. My friends think my honesty is funny too. Obviously because so few people are, it is out of the norm. The good think is after people get to know you and know you are an honest person, they know they can trust you.
  17. searchingwithin
    I am alway honest, but there is a thing called tact and diplomacy. Sometimes just being quiet is best, but at times, that can also be dishonest.
  18. daniel23
    I always lie. Paradox! Paradox! Wow.
    1. linmei
      What?! You never stand up, go walking...
    2. earthlingorgeous
      hahaha Daniel!
  19. Livingstrong
    I like it that most or all BlogCatalog members are so nice and positive about this topic. It is really refreshing to know that there are lots of people in this forum who are polite and appreciate to talk about honesty and loneliness without being nasty about it like they do in many other forum sites out there. Congratulations to all!
    1. earthlingorgeous
      I guess livingstrong everyone out here has the same question in mind and are looking for answers?
    2. wolfcreek
      I like to think that as bloggers, we're already a little more enlightened than most IM users or chat roomers. Bloggers tend to want to find ways to say things with flare and character, and I hope that we all have it in the back of our mind that it is important to back all statements with fact.

      I realize many bloggers are creative types, but they too have the enlightenment to work for truth in discussion, even if they are working with fantasy as creative ideas.

      This is why I enjoy talking to bloggers.
    3. earthlingorgeous
      Hmmmm... I have to agree with you some haha... bloggers are thinkers chatters are chatters haha
  20. robertstevenson
    Loved the post. I love Billy Joel as well. Honesty is probably the most important virtue to me. If you can't believe what someone is saying, why even communicate with them.

    No, that's not true. I was lying.
    . . . But I did love your post, honestly - now I feel lonely
    1. earthlingorgeous
      lol Robert... well it's good to be here in BC everyone speaks their mind... some get offended some offend but still the honesty is there and it makes you realize you are not alone ... but alone and lonely are different ugh lol.. thinking out loud again
    2. robertstevenson
      I agree, gorgeous. This is a great place to be.
    3. earthlingorgeous
      yeah and great place to meet people and honestly I am learning about culture difference of the East and West
  21. PotatoChef
    You have a great looking blog. I read the post...interesting. Not everybody wants to hear the truth. And to speak the truth you must be honest.

    I'm not sure that being lonely and being honest must go together. It makes it a little more difficult for sure.

    My favorite Billy Joel song is New York State Of Mind...I was born there
    1. morgantj
      I thought it was the other way around. To be honest, you must speak the truth or be true.
    2. earthlingorgeous
      thanks hfrank...

      to be honest you must speak the truth to be true you must be honest
    3. morgantj
      Honesty is the quality of being truthful. Therefore, one who is honest, had to of been truthful first to gain the title, "honest." One is not considered "honest" unless they have been truthful first. So being true comes first.
  22. earthlingorgeous
    ack no I didn't mean to report... I want to reply yikes
    1. morgantj
      You put me on the hit list! Thanks allot!
    2. earthlingorgeous
      waaaaah morganti no not mean to do that I mean to reply sorry! how can we undo that?
    3. morgantj
      Don't worry about it, they'll see it was an accident. What were you going to say?
    4. earthlingorgeous
      thanks morgan, I was going to reply on which comes first being truthful or being honest, well you have to have the virtue of honesty to say the truth and when you say the truth you are honest so it's a loop really like asking who comes first the chicken or the egg.
    5. morgantj
      I don't think there is a loop in this one. We don't consider one "honest" until we know they have told the truth first. Even a liar can tell the truth sometimes, but we only say they were honest after they told the truth.

      I don't think honesty is an "ability," ie. one who is honest, has the ability to tell the truth. Because everyone is "capable" of being honest, but having the capability, doesn't mean that they will be or are honest.

      Now, one who tells the truth, we call them honest. Because they already have told the truth.

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