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I think it is ridiculous. I do not accepted that theory coz I am human. Human and animal is different.

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  1. davedol
    Ohmygod. Get an education. We can debate beliefs, but we can't debate science.
    1. snipersage
      I think it is not TRUE....
      if the apes or monkeys evolved to be a human.... why there still monkeys left in EARTH??? They should evolve right now, right?

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    2. SweetViolet
      @snipersage. Scroll down and read my explanation of the "common ancestor."
    3. hatingtherain
      Did Darwin say anything about monkeys evolving into humans?

      In fact I don't think Darwin ever mentioned monkeys. Or humans for that matter.
    4. hatingtherain
      We can't debate science?
    5. siralmo
      of course we can.. we can always debate science, thats what gives us the flexibility to grow and change our knowledge

      besides it wasn't too long ago that people thought of atoms as being like pudding
    6. hatingtherain
      Well I never thought atoms were like pudding.
    7. hatingtherain
      Well I never thought atoms were like pudding.

      More deja vu,,,must be nearing 2012!
  2. nothingprofound
    True in most respects, but with some wrinkles yet to work out.
  3. hadiey
    You can think logically. Just want an opinion not an argument. Just your perception. Science is science. There is fact that can't be change at all because it being trusted since the theory is created.
    1. SweetViolet
      Humans ARE animals. And Darwin's theory makes a great deal more sense than an invisible person and magic.
    2. hatingtherain
      scientific "facts" are changed all the time.
  4. drjay1966
    So, basically, you like your ignorant perception and don't want to have to think about it? What's the point of starting this discussion then?
  5. hadiey
    you ignore or you believe it your ancestor is a monkey or ape?
    1. Sam1982
      Ape, would be the correct answer. Monkeys and apes are different animals
    2. SweetViolet
      Um, no. Apes and humans had a common ancestor.

      Think of it this way: Suppose your grandfather's surname was Brown, and he had two daughters, and each daughter married...one marries a man with the surname Green, the other marries a man with the surname White. Your cousins would be surnamed Green, you would be surnamed White, but you would both be descended from the man named Brown...he would be your common ancestor with your Green cousins.

      Same with apes and humans. We are not the same, but we are descended from a common ancestor.
  6. busylizzy
    It's called a "theory" for a reason. Don't get all worked up about it!

    Creatures change over the generations. Sometimes it's due to a mutation. Whoever is best fit to survive in it's particular environment will do best. Thus, "survival of the fittest."
  7. hadiey
    but in the theory said ape or monkey.
    1. Sam1982
      So do you believe that you are not an animal?, that humans are not animals also?
    2. SweetViolet
      How do you know? Have you actually read it?

      Or did somebody tell you this and you just believed them?
    3. radioflyer1980
      Uh, no. It didn't.

      In the Origin of Species, Darwin did not mention human beings at all, though he did infer (and later did write specifically) that men and apes likely shared a common ancestor at some point in the remote past and that all species were interconnected.
  8. hadiey
    yup, i'm human because animal is another creature create by God. It is not same level. Example, Angel, Human, Animal, demon, satan,etc.
    1. SweetViolet
      Humans are animals.

      angels, demons, the devil are imaginary. They aren't real. They don't exist.
  9. rfburnhertz
    I do not believe in the theory of Darwinian Evolution.

    I have no issues with it being taught as theory in school but do believe other theories should be given equal time.
    1. SweetViolet
      If they are scientific theories that are not include imaginary invisible beings and magic, I agree with you. Otherwise, I don't.
    2. radioflyer1980
      Theories should be taught based on how good of a theory they are and how much supporting evidence they have.

      For example, an awful lot of math is based on theory. There are an infinite number of numbers, so it's difficult to prove anything works for EVERY circumstance.

      I would not want to be in the math class that gave equal time to the so-called theories of addition and multiplication and stuff someone just made up off the top of their head.
  10. dsriharsha
    Putting aside the question about whether you descended from an ape.. you surely are a monkey now.
  11. FunologieDotCom
    everything has a good and bad side.

    -the good side of Darwinism is the fact that human are actually trying to find solutions.

    -the bad side is that according to Darwin, we are just a product of evolution, strong survive weak die. Thus some people would have more reason to kill others.


    I am neutral, for me, morality is the most important thing, creationism or evolutionism, I don't care as long as you are good boy

    Just my 2 cents
  12. davedol
    Ohmygod. Is this the official BCs ’Dumbass Discussion’ discussion? Denying science because of religion is stupid. Debate religion, but please leave science out of it.
    1. FunologieDotCom
      Can't , Creationism and Evolutionism always fight.

  13. davedol
    Creationism needs a serious makeover. I am spiritual guy, and I see a connection between science and spirituality. Why can’t fundamentalists? Exactly because they are literal minded with their script. MAKEOVER!.
  14. dbowles1017
    people liked Twilight, so I think he was wrong. I think we are devolving.
    1. JonnyDunMind
      Haha, You are right. Everyone bear this mans children, yso we can move up the evolutionary ladder, or at least make good films in the future.
  15. jyotishman
    I Think Darwin Was A Scientist, And He Was A Politician!
    1. SweetViolet
      STOP SPAMMING THE THREAD!!
  16. davedol
    Lets not comment about evolution. We need a new BC rule that evolution science is a forbidden topic for discussion. It lowers the value of the BC enterprise because it suggests bloggers are dumbass uneducated idiots. Bloggers denying science? Doh! Bloggers are supposed to be smart...

    I blog about the paranormal. If anyone wants to deny science, I should. But I am lame compared to the people who don’t believe in evolution.. I can’t compete with them!
    1. jeremyjanson
      A very smart man named Immanuel Kant pointed out that science can't actually prove anything because of the fallacy of induction. See, the problem with science is it assumes that what was true today was true 1500 years ago, and what is true in your laboratory is true in every place at every time. It also assumes that everything follows a set logic and rhythm, and that whacky abnormalities (like God's intervention) DON'T HAPPEN. These are holes in logic, pure and simple. Do they mean science is wrong? No, in fact practical experience and engineering would seem to confirm science 99.9% of the time (but you only have to be a wrong a millionth of a percent of the time for something truly glorious to happen.) But they do mean that science is not, and probably cannot be, PROVEN.

      As for denying evolution, ANY good scientist should deny evolution for a moment and then handle an experiment if he is interested in the matter. If he is not, he is essentially a normal citizen with some expertise, much like an engineer. In any case, I don't see what's wrong with keeping your mind open, especially if you don't actually have to be responsible for it anyways.

      My God could care less one way or the other. Time, the Earth and existence are his playthings. He can muck around with whatever he wants, whenever he wants, HOWEVER he wants and scientists really can only maybe try to witness the aftermath. I'm not saying that science isn't extremely useful, as an engineer I would be a fool to do so as even with its flaws, scienceis predictable, observable, and disassembleable, and generally works most of the time, which makes it of great use to me, but the rest of it, who cares!
    2. rfburnhertz
      A very scientific approach.

      I am a superior dumbass in comparison to yourself because I reject the theory of Darwinian Evolution (Macro to be specific) while you embrace it.

      Based upon that we can establish the stupidity of others.

      I expected you will be releasing the research paper any day now.
  17. davedol
    OK, God can certainly create existence with the illusion of evolution if that is the Divine Purpose. But why bother? Why not just create evolution? There is nothing about evolution that is at odds with spirituality. The argument with evolution is that evolution does not match the bible. A literal interpretation of the bible.

    Bottom line. The debate with evolution is only about Biblical Literalism and nothing else.
    1. rfburnhertz
      So then, so long as a person has an interpretation which you have deemed to be a sound interpretation.... they are free to think for themselves.

      Outside of that, they are dumbasses.

      Okay, I follow now.
      You'll have to excuse me for taking so long to catch on... I'm a dumbass of sorts.
    2. jeremyjanson
      I'll tell you why davedol. Because God wanted Man to explore his world and master it, and that required it to be set within the bounds of scientific principles that we could scoop up and use for engineering. He wants medical advances and automobiles.
  18. davedol
    Maybe I should not be so blunt about personal beliefs. A belief is a belief and I am nobody’s judge on that. But in the case of evolution it is a question of science. Denying evolution is as logical as denying gravity.

    Point. How did the kangaroo get on Noah’s Ark? The backstroke? Include any unique species that existed on every isolated island around the world. If you can answer that question, I will gladly deny evolution with all my heart and soul.

    However, one explanation does not count. That before Noah’s Flood kangaroos had wings and were able to fly to Noah’s Ark. After the flood the wings fell off.
    1. SweetViolet
      I think the best solution is that religious threads should not be allowed on the main page...

      OOPS!! They aren't!! So why hasn't Admin moved this to the proper venue??
    2. rfburnhertz
      I'm not asking you to deny evolution.

      I don't mock you for believing evolution.

      I don't assume you stupid for believing evolution.

      I don't assume you spiritually dead or void for believing evolution.

      There is the point.
      A discussion of evolution (or general science) and it's compatibility or non-compatibility with religion (any religion) is one thing.

      Mocking is another.
    3. SweetViolet
      One of the problems with religious threads and those who post them is that they invariably offend someone.

      So, it is OK for people who believe that invisible magical beings created and control the world, it is ok to insult the intelligence of others with that kind of twaddle, but it is not OK for the offended to respond in kind?

      Past puberty, nobody should believe in faeries, leprechauns, or other invisible, magical creatures. You mock my very intelligence with this kind of nonsense.

      If you want to believe in magic, fine. But don't be surprised...or wounded...when reality intrudes.
    4. rfburnhertz
      I do not mind being offended or offending.
      None of us have the right not to be offended.

      The person I was speaking to offered opinions only with a side of arrogance and sarcasm. That's hardly a discussion or defense of their belief.

      When one jumps out of the gate calling others stupid based upon their beliefs, you might expect them to provide some demonstrable evidence of the actual stupidity.
  19. amrhima
    A successful scientific theory -a category where evolution belongs- is the best approximation of reality avaliable using our concepts, sometimes we get paradigm shifts and realize that there's something more accurate but untill then we cannot describe reality better than with the available theory.
  20. greencurmudgeon
    You really didn't pay attention in the madrassa, did you? Mohammed constantly exhorted his followers to use their intelligence. Furthermore, the Qu'ran says that God created all life from water. The specific process by which this life was created is not addressed; it could very well be that evolution was that means. If you look beyond the end of your nose, you'll see this is a topic of much debate in the Islamic world, it is by no means settled, and it is by no means resting on a very simplistic and anti-intellectual premise such as yours.
  21. hadiey
    "greencurmudgeon said, You really didn't pay attention in the madrassa, did you? Mohammed constantly exhorted his followers to use their intelligence. Furthermore, the Qu'ran says that God created all life from water. The specific process by which this life was created is not addressed; it could very well be that evolution was that means. If you look beyond the end of your nose, you'll see this is a topic of much debate in the Islamic world, it is by no means settled, and it is by no means resting on a very simplistic and anti-intellectual premise such as yours".


    I took a phrase in one sources that said "While Islam recognizes the general idea of the development of life in stages, over a period of time, human beings are considered as a special act of creation. Islam teaches that human beings are a unique life form that was created by Allah in a special way, with unique gifts and abilities unlike any other: a soul and conscience, knowledge, and free will. In short, Muslims do not believe that human beings randomly evolved from apes. The life of human beings began with the creation of two people, a male and a female named Adam and Hawwa (Eve)".

    I go to madrassa and i know what i say about. The truth is human is human created by Allah (God).

    See:

    islam.about.com/od/creation/a/creation_2.htm
  22. evilsquirrel01
    Its reasonable but there are some holes in the theory
  23. hadiey
    Not a theory but it is fact
    1. siralmo
      Define fact:

      a statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened;
    2. siralmo
      NOTE: that it says "verified" infomation
  24. arisnb
    I think that theory is not true. I am human not monkey
  25. xmarks
    Evolution - yes
    Darwinian - no

    It places too much on fitness and natural selection and too little on mutation and will to live.


    I am monkey.
  26. Rozie818
    I think Darwin's problem was he ate pork.
  27. inbusiness
    If you don't think you are an animal take a close look in the mirror mate - you have two eyes, two ears, you have hair, you breath air with lungs, you need water and food, and it passes out the other end like every other aninal on this planet - you have skin, you have a heart with the same configuration as other animals, blood, kidneys, liver....etc need I go on?
    1. harveyavatar
      Man is an animal with reason.
  28. jeevant2t
    yup humans are animals..... worst animals in world....full of cheaters , lier, selfish persons.....
  29. teomon
    If this theory was correct,why don't we see monkeys coming out of the jungle and cages as human beings?

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  30. shraqshaq77
    I agree with you. Its all b***s**t. The only person who think human is evolving is Darwin himself (cause he is one of them)
  31. HollytheHousewife
    I think its a theory............nothing more nothing less. Theory=guess
  32. hadiey
    Human categorized as creature that have a brain and have an intelligent to think right and wrong.. An animal also categorized as a creature same as Jin, satan and so on.

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