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How does the Bible explain the Dinosaurs' existence ?
Posted by gerryPlanetEarth • 12/13/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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How does the Bible explain the Dinosaurs' existence ?
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The Bible refers to many the common animals we know today. The list includes lions, wolves, bears, sheep, cattle and dogs along with various kinds of birds, rodents, reptiles, and insects. What is interesting is that this extensive list includes three animals that we no longer recognize. These three are (in the original Hebrew language) tanniyn, b@hemowth (yes, it’s spelled correctly—at least as close as we can get in Roman characters), and livyathan.
Although we alter the spelling of behemoth and Leviathan slightly, we still use those same words in bibles today. However, tanniyn is always translated into another word when we write it in English. Tanniyn occurs 28 times in the Bible and is normally translated “dragon.” It is also translated “serpent,” “sea monster,” “dinosaur,” “great creature,” and “reptile.” Behemoth and Leviathan are relatively specific creatures, perhaps each was a single kind of animal. Tanniyn is a more general term, and it can be thought of as the original version of the word “dinosaur.” The word “dinosaur” was originally coined in 1841, more than three thousand years after the Bible first referred to “Tanniyn.”
Name and date first written in the Bible
tanniyn (dragon)-before 1400 BC-
Scientific Name (best estimate) and date the name appeared
dinosaur 1841 AD-
it's true, there was a time that dinosaurs coexisted with man. animals were made a day before man. -
One day before, I thought it was 2
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Did Dinosaurs Live with Man?
www.christianpost.com/article/20070710/did-dinosaurs-live-with-man.htm-
are you trying to defend christianity?? -
What did I say?
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The bible is concerned about the relationship between man and God. Not animals. That's like saying why didn't my Quick Books Pro 2009 manual talk about how to make Game Hens with rosemary and lemon.
The creation story in Genesis was not created to direct your attention to an exhaustive list of animals. It was created to address the perfect relationship man and woman had with God before the "fall" (when man and woman sinned against God). The sin being, the desire to be their own creators.-
"The bible is concerned about the relationship between man and God."
The Bible is not just about relationship between Man and God.
The Bible concerns about all in the universe,The Bible is concern about animal too, This is written in the Bible. I hope you do know the story of Noah. -
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re: the "story" of Noah...
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No, I am answering to vfosdal About "Bible concern only about Man and God"
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@gerryplanetearth
Question: How does the Bible explain the Dinosaurs' existence ?
Answer: It doesn't.
I have the pervasive feeling that you have posted this topic simply to stir up controversy - again.
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/search.php?q=dinosaurs
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/search.php?q=intelligent+design+
@everyone
If you believe that humans and dinosaurs co-existed on earth a mere 6,000 years ago, then you need evidence to explain and support your ideas. When using evidence, be sure not to: rely on dubious sources on religious websites; take quotations out of context; juggle numbers or statistics; and not to present unusual cases as representative examples. Use sources of information that are objective and qualified and link to them appropriately.
In short the allegation that dinosaurs and man co-existed on Earth a mere 6,000 years ago is unsubstantiated.
Archaeologists the world over would be too polite to laugh into the faces of those professing such bullshit but I would not hesitate to do so. The allegations that there are no complete skeletal remains of dinosaurs is likewise bullshit. You can see 40 complete skeletons at the Tyrrell Museum and there are many more all over the world too.
Recently, University of Utah geologists identified an amazing concentration of dinosaur footprints that they call “a dinosaur dance floor,” located in a wilderness on the Arizona-Utah border where there was a sandy desert oasis 190 million years ago. www.newswise.com/articles/view/545455/
www.tyrrellmuseum.com/
The origin of "the Flood" myth was ripped off from the ancient Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh and included in the Old Testament as the Noah's and the flood myth.
www.piney-2.com/Gil01.html
www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/-
Yes! You know, it never occurred to me before, but the bible really is silent on dinos, isn't it? Mebbe because the authors of the book had no clue they ever existed? One more nail in the coffin of the concept of the bible as being historically accurate. -
There is no record in the bible of the existence of elephants either ... lol
And one would have to be extremely ill educated, dull of wit or deluded to believe the bible presents an accurate historical record. -
Unfortunately, a good education is not proof against early indoctrination. There are those who have university degrees (from legitimate universities, too, not Bob Jones) who continue to believe that the blob on Mt. Ararat is Noah's Ark and other such nonsense, because the bible says it came to rest there.
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There are also those of us who are educated and above average intelligence who were not "indoctrinated" at an early age and have come to those same conclusions ourselves as adults. -
@madamex.. and you're admitting to that? so you don't even have childhood brainwashing as an excuse? -
timethief, i just saw this discussion and was about to zoom in on an answer and said to myself, "self timethief probably is all over this". so i read the thread, and sure enough you are as usual. the folks that put the bible together wouldn't know a t-rex if it ate their fifth born. thanks for making that point with a bit more detail!!!
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The Bible doesn't have to explain dinosaurs. It's a bout tribes of people, UFO's, mysticism, the sound current, control, wisdom, and a very mixed up version about the life of Jesus
But the Red Panda will add a prophecy. The dinosaurs are coming back-
Really? Can I have one? Just a little bitty one...I like lizards and I'd love to be the first one on my block to have a dino!
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@acousticguitarist...I will add to that prophecy even further and announce that the dinosaurs are already here, in fact some are already here in this discussion. Bwwwaaaaahahhhh
@SweetViolet...me too.
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they will probably say "Let me eat your leader"
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Sweet, what color?
We've got purple on special at the mo. It comes with an free eBook -
@Acousticguitarist...mine self destructs after use
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yours are from Taiwan
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I will add to that prophecy even further and announce that the dinosaurs are already here, in fact some are already here in this discussion. Bwwwaaaaahahhhh
No kidding! BbbbbbbbbbbwawwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaauuuuH! They like resurrecting moldy old ideas and threads. And this is what they just don't get:
Ideas, theories and beliefs are not necessarily truths.
A belief is not an idea held by the mind; it is an idea that holds the mind.
What you mean you are not out there lobbying for brainwashing ie. "creationism" to be taught in public schools in science classes? And you're not insisting that children pray at school too?
P.S. At the end of these creation museum they have Flintstones villages for the kids to play in. -
TT: Have they got a Flintstones Village for big kids?
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The creation museums are for "families". They are aimed at families comprised of a mommy and a daddy and their offspring. The 30 % of all families that aren't so constructed are not the target but their admission fees are welcomed.
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Too the GuitarMan & Juenelle~
you guys made me laff so hard! :)macca.devstars.eu/phpBB2/images/smiles/mad2.gif
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lol...like they say,(and the red pandas).... history repeats itself...damn! I should have saved all my spandex & polyester shorts, could have made a fortune off selling them to those among the humans that like to wear colorful clothes.
www.skepticalbeliefs.com
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Well, I was thinking something along the lines of the chameleon I caught out by the pool a couple of years ago. Something big enough to defend itself against my little doggies, but not so big as to snack on them!
Definitely chameleonic...color shifting...
Although purple does appeal to the Violet...she just doesn't like barneys!-
what's a barney?
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hey acoustic have you been reading David Icke?-
I am familiar with him only because a friend reads his stuff. Personally I've never been drawn to him, nor have I taken the time to read his material, so I'd have to say NO. I think he was the one that published the map of the new world about 10 years ago, I may be wrong, I did have a copy of that and found it interesting. My understanding is that he gathers information from other sources, I might be wrong there. I am familiar with some of his information on UFO's etc, for me what would be more important would be getting the information directly from the source. What I do like though is that he seems to get people thinking and questioning. So it's not so much the information that is important but what is important is that we are thinking and trying to break out of the limited box.
All I can say is I don't know what is going on. I don't believe for one minute the world is the way people say it is or that much of the information we receive or are educated with is any way correct. But that doesn't bother me in any way. I don't think we all experience the same reality or Truth at all, and that makes me laugh. This would mean we're ALL correct in our viewpoints, and that's fine with me. With this view, it's easy to bypass arguments if need be. Or if we enter a disagreement it's possible to disagree in an interesting way, knowing that the others truth is in some way true, but not something which we need to carry as baggage.
What colour dinosaur would you like. I've got a special on at present :-)
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People in jail and prison use Bible pages to roll joints.-
Relevance?
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A sailor once ran out of food on his yacht. He survived for days eating a rice paper bible. True.
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Simple and quick answer it doesn't. -
What are dinosaurs? The term came only in 1841. Many types of dino has been known to man and may be we might find another type of Dino in the future. See Dino are known or are called by different names and in different place.
The word tanniyn in Bible is Dinosaur.-
"Tanniyn" in Hebrew is a crocodile/alligator. -
"the word tanniyn in Bible is Dinosaur"
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According to me. You have the right not to believe. it doesn't matter to me at all. -
that's what i thought.
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But... but... but... "Tanniyn" in Hebrew is a crocodile/alligator!
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now see, urikalish has something i can research to see for myself. not just "because i said so!"
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You can skip the research, both words exist in modern Hebrew:
Tanniyn = Crocodile/Alligator
Livyathan = Whale -
@urikalish
What are crocs, they are reptile??????????Don't you still get the idea!!!
In those time, The word Dinosaurs was not there, that's why... -
Sorry, but I don't see how they could have used the same word for such two different animals like a crocodile and a T-Rex.
p.s. I'm ignoring the small issue that humans were 65.5 million years late for the appointment with Mister T-Rex. -
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As apparently some of the surviving members of the dinosaurs' species such as chickens are kosher for eating would any of the extinct dinosaurs such as the brontosaurus be considered kosher for eating ? -
The modern meaning of Leviathan (no matter how you spell it) is not a whale if you look at the creature described in the 41st Chapter of the book of Job.
Job 41:15His rows of scales are his pride,
Shut up tightly as with a seal;
16 One is so near another
That no air can come between them;
17 They are joined one to another,
They stick together and cannot be parted.
18 His sneezings flash forth light,
And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lights;
Sparks of fire shoot out.
20 Smoke goes out of his nostrils,
As from a boiling pot and burning rushes.
21 His breath kindles coals,
And a flame goes out of his mouth.
22 Strength dwells in his neck,
And sorrow dances before him.
23 The folds of his flesh are joined together;
They are firm on him and cannot be moved.
More like a fire breathing dragon than a whale if you ask me -
A dragon or a very large crocodile...perhaps
Or Godzilla -
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The word "dinosaur" is not found anywhere in the Bible. This is because the word "Dinosaur" was not invented until the mid 1800's. The "King James Bible" was translated into English in 1611. - So we would not expect to find the word "dinosaur."
However ... The Bible is a book about redemption, not everything and anything. It focuses on what is necessary to reveal God's plan of salvation and redemption.
To focus on dinosaurs would be a severe sidetrack. You can see what that sidetrack does today. More people are trying to poke holes in the Bible than look for salvation. The Bible says that they will find what they seek. If they look for holes, holes is what God will give them. If they seek for salvation, they will obtain that. One is good for now, the other is good for eternity. God seems to think one subject is more important than the other.-
Well said too.
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Maybe some people are interested in the TRUTH, not salvation. I don't want or need to be saved. I believe there are many who would agree.
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It doesn't, it makes some generalizations about monsters and such that believers conveniently interpret as "dinosaurs," in light of all the fossils we have found that they can no longer deny.
It used to be thought that god apparently put dinosaur fossils on earth to test believers faith. -
I see them all the time, in fact here's one coming out of my bedroom
We tried to net him but he got away
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The chinese dragons are Dino, Palaeontologists have unveiled the fossilised skeleton of a two-headed dinosaur that roamed the earth about 100 million years ago.
But before it gets added to the pantheon of prehistoric beasts occupied by luminaries such as Tyrannosaurus Rex and Triceratops, scientists point out the dinosaur was only 70mm tall and died at a very young age.
Publishing their findings in the Royal Society journal, the Chinese palaeontologists discovered the specimen in the famed dinosaur stamping grounds of Yixian Formation in the north-east of the country, with its mixture of volcanic and sedimentary rocks an ideal place for fossils to be preserved.
They explain that the fossilised remains of the infant, possibly an aquatic diapsid such as Sinohydrosaurus lingyuanensis or Hyphalosaurus lingyuanensis, is the first time that axial bifurcation – where reptiles develop two heads and necks – has been observed in dinosaurs.
The condition occurs relatively commonly in turtles and snakes as a result of the species' regenerative qualities when suffering an embryonic lesion.
Many extraordinary fossils from the Yixian Formation have later been exposed as fakes, but the scientists from the Shenzen Palaeontological museum insist the fossilised remains of the infant, which would have grown to 1m long, are genuine. -
Amazing. What about the Koran? The Koran was written after the Bible, so isn't it more current? -
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment - does the bible have to address dinosaurs? Is there any reason that it should? What purpose would that serve?
In my recent JW studies, I've learned that many sects of Christianity fully accept science's findings on the age of the Earth, Dinosaurs, possible causes of extinction, the evolution of humans and animals etc...
There is nothing in the bible to contradict such findings, so they see no need to fight such findings.
Just sayin'-
Doesn't the bible suggest that the planet is only around 6,000 years old? Yet, we have evidence that dinosaur fossils and the planet itself are much much older then that. Would that not be a contradiction to the findings? Just because many sects of Christianity fully accept science's findings, doesn't mean the bible reflects this. Aren't they just ignoring that part of the bible now, or look for a different way to interpret it so that it fits with modern scientific findings?
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Actually, it is certain people's interpretation of the Bible that the planet is 6000 years old.
On the flip side - the millions of year old planet would likely be smooth as a billiard ball with erosion.
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There's nothing in the bible that states the planet is 6,000 years old. Some people have taken certain parts of the bible (namely, creation) and tried to literally interpret that as the Earth's time line, however.
It's not widely accepted, in my experience. -
Barry: Erosion is only part of the story regarding the shape of the earth. Movements of the plates and eruptions build mountains. -
Yea, I know, it doesn't say "6,000" "exactly," people that have come up with that figure by adding up the events as defined in the bible and deducing that it must be around 6,000 years old according the timeline of those events. Again, it is people picking and choosing what to take litteraly and what to take metaphorically, how to interpret it, in accordance to the current knowledge and understanding of the times. What ever makes it work with current knowledge, they simply reinterpret it as necessary to make it work.
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If dinosaurs did exist during biblical times it wouldn't shock me as I read stories about Nephilims during Enoch's time who came to rule over man and had lots and lots of sex with earth women
which gave birth to a spawn of grotesque monstrosities, so who knows if dinosaurs
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For what it is worth ... the Bible does not give an age for the earth. The 6,000 year old thing was an estimate of Dr. John Lightfoot, a 17th century Anglican clergyman. He estimated that creation occurred during 4004 BCE. Bishop James Ussher in the 17th century made the same estimate a decade later, and got almost all the credit.
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What's funny to me is some can't even tell that I'm not serious and that I'm just egging this discussion on to stir up more trouble. hahahaha
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@armywife65..ROFLMAO
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Jesus horses
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sorry, i don't believe the Bible mentions horses, Friday. only asses.
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Horses - right on! Now you're talking. There's a complete fossil record for horses although creationists claim otherwise.
If you are a creationist then how can you explain the sequence of horse fossils? Even if you insist on ignoring the transitional fossils (many of which have been found), again, how can the unmistakable sequence of these fossils be explained?
Did God create Hyracotherium, then kill off Hyracotherium and create some Hyracotherium-Orohippus intermediates, then kill off the intermediates and create Orohippus, then kill off Orohippus and create Epihippus, then allow Epihippus to "microevolve" into Duchesnehippus, then kill off Duchesnehippus and create Mesohippus, then create some Mesohippus-Miohippus intermediates, then create Miohippus, then kill off Mesohippus, etc..... each species coincidentally similar to the species that came just before and came just after?
Creationism utterly fails to explain the sequence of known horse fossils from the last 50 million years. That is, without invoking the "God Created Everything To Look Just Like Evolution Happened" Theory.
[And there is other evidence for evolution that is totally independent of the fossil record -- developmental biology, comparative DNA & protein studies, morphological analyses, biogeography, etc. The fossil record, horses included, is only a small part of the story.]
Creationists are thus forced into illogical, unjustified attacks of fossil dating methods, or irrelevant and usually flat-out wrong proclamations about a supposed "lack" of "transitional forms".
chem.tufts.edu/science/evolution/horseevolution.htm
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@hatingtherain: really? I've never read the (whole) thing, so I wouldn't know. Is it true that some of the asses have names?
@timethief: maybe the horses are like Pokémon, evolving after much experience
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Friday, i haven't read the Bible for a while, but I'm almost possitive asses were mentioned. something about Joseph setting Mary on her ass...or was that a Monty Python movie I'm thinking of? hmmmm...
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Well horses are in the Bible. ..."a rider on a pale horse"
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TT: I believe the common explaination is that god created all kinds of horses, including all of those breeds that died out. Creationists would put the earliest fossil horse as a contemporary with modern horses, they just died out (just like the dinosaurs).
Barry: What do you mean fossil record put humans and dinos together? I've never heard of such evidence.
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what? explain further....
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Not necessarily... www.scienceagogo.com/news/20000321061843data_trunc_sys.shtml
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Who claims they are reptiles?
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Its quiet possible they all died out during Noah's flood but here we go again.
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The creation story in Genesis, the story of Adam and Eve, the story of Noah...the key word here is STORY. Stories are not fact and the problem I find with some is that they refuse to accept that the Bible is a compilation of stories not hard evidenced scientifical actual facts and there is a difference.-
I am using the Bible as reference, because that is the basis of this discussion - I am not claiming it to be something in particular other than a resource of information in this case.
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@barryfromtexas....I hear you...same with me.
A story according to who? Some of the Archaeological digs that man found,
he wouldn't of even been able to find much less know about if stories like these didn't exist.
It's these very stories that sent man on a search to find truth and some of the stories
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Not to mention discovering oil in the middle east --- oops I mentioned it
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I think it's interesting that many of the stories found in the bible are now being researched, and are considered plausible due to archeological and geological finds.
I've always found it disingenuous to entirely dismiss the historical relevance of the bible simply because it's a religious text, just as I find basing all of science and life only on the writings disingenuous for the same reason.
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@Anok...exactly and it does seem like most people have a major problem with anything said out of the bible. I won't dismiss what's said in the bible entirely either.
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DO you watch the bible series on Discovery? They do all sorts of investigations about biblical references and stuff - last night they did the parting of the Red Sea - found out it was actually plausible.
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I've seen something similar where under the right conditions you could wade across a small part of the red sea. Now that no one has seen those conditions expect that one time when the jews really needed it pushes plausibility. Believers may say that is because god caused those conditions at the right time for Moses and team but if god has all of those powers, why bother proving the plausibility of it.
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@Anok...yes I do watch it and they do have some really cool episodes.
Yes the Red sea and even why the Black sea became the Black sea was very interesting. -
The new theory is actually called "downward wind pressure" or something like that - they discovered that the waterline of the Red Sea has gone down a great deal, and if the water line was up where it was originally (for that time period) there is a ridge that creates the right conditions for a heavy wind to literally "part" the sea - in other words it exposes the ridge - and they do have winds like that there. And, they backed up their theory and projected path by using the writings of both the bible and ancient texts not of Christian origin to map out where the actual "mount Sinai" is, which was actually a volcano that just so happens to be the exactly right distance away, in the right direction, that actually produces all of the right "signs" that were recorded in the bible.
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Wow, and then he drowned the Egyptian army in water you could wade in - now THAT is awesome
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Barry - once the wind stopped blowing, the water rushes back to it's original depth - drowning anyone still on the ridge!
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@Anok yes it is interesting and the Black sea has a very high salt content dead water
and they believe that whole area was destroyed by some sort of nuclear explosion
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Neat! There is also the theory that our waters were originally much saltier, and with the introduction of more rain, and then after things like glaciers began melting, the salt content became less saturated.
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@Anok...no I didn't know this...which sea is it...do you know?
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I'm sorry Juennelle, it was a lake, not a sea *blush*
www.bbc.co.uk/nature/programmes/tv/wildafrica/lakeasal.shtml
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@Anok....cool thanks for the link, I'll take a look.
I think it funny how when a country is about to be destroyed, it's natural resources are running out, water supply drying up, food shortages, earthquakes, volcanos, sunnamis, moonsoons, all cause and controlled by an invisible force maybe. Egypt also fell as soon as the underground chi depleted.
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GODZILLA www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvLJrzbNcmU
Remember "it takes a man to be a dad".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKU9BgAv_kA-
It will take me forever to see those!!
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The dinosaur bird evolution progression/connection www.pbs.org/lifeofbirds/evolution/
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The Byrds were dinosaurs - wasn't David Crosby in the original band?
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I have followed the discussion and thought I'd add a comment to help out. With the exception of a few hints and mentions the Biblical story leaves out earlier history, i.e. dinosaurs because its focus is on the fall of man and his redemption, i.e. Jesus Christ the Savior. There is scripture that mention an earlier period of the earth.
In 2 Peter 3:6-7 it reads- Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word and kept in store.... There are several scripture references to a Pre-Adamite world here on earth and a first flood that destroyed all life unlike the flood of Noah that preserved his family and some animals and they are: 2 Peter 3:6; Gen. 1:2; Jer. 4:23-26.
The former social system was created "in the beginning" and was destroyed by the flood of Gen. 1:1-2. The present social system was created in six days since the flood of Gen. 1:2 (Gen. 1:3-Gen. 2:25.
The flood of Noah did not destroy all the social system on earth between Adam and Noah, for some were preserved in the ark to continue that social system after the flood; but the social system that then was before the present one utterly perished. Not one man, bird, or animal was left alive.
Now, if you read Gen. 1:28 you notice the following: "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.... The word "replenish" can only mean to refill or restore something to its original state would you agree? There had to be a Pre-Adamite social system destroyed by a first flood more devastating than the flood of Noah consisting of man, birds, animals, and dinosaurs because that would explain the fossil remains found today. Now read the following scripture for yourself: Gen. 9:1; Isa. 2:6 and 23:2; Jer. 31:25; and Ezek. 26:2 and 27:25.
Some people simple fail to believe; others simple fail to study; and still yet, those that want to believe do both because we lack faith.
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I grew up being taught creationism as described in various posts above. FYI: For those who choose not to believe it, as I do, there is no point arguing with those who do... b/c there is no other option for them... your/my lack of Faith will be used to undercut any argument made against creationist theories. -
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For those who choose not to believe it, as I do, there is no point arguing with those who do... b/c there is no other option for them... your/my lack of Faith will be used to undercut any argument made against creationist theories
That's the truth for sure. I have frequently had new converts, who could cherry pick and quote a scripture or too extracted from it's context and who have learned to interpret them with a Christian spin, tell me to read my Bible. I laugh out loud when I hear this. For goodness sake there isn't a person in my entire family on either side who can't quote scripture by rote from at least 4 different translations. We were the kids of pastors, church elders and ministry leaders. We were brainwashed from birth onwards and sent to Bible camps, schools and colleges too.
I began with blind faith but when I learned to meditate and experienced an entirely different construct for god I tossed all that religious stuff into the trashcan years ago.
When I meditate and all the things associated with my "self" like greed, anger, hate, etc. dissolve is that there really is no self; there is no distinct being that is separate from the universal stream of pure consciousness -- quiet joy, peace, love ie. god.
Neither male nor female, neither good nor bad, neither light nor darkness but containing all there is and situate everywhere: the universal stream of consciousness flowing through all is god. Hence, god is found in everyone and in everything; god just keeps on is-ing.
No amount of bible pounding will bring me back into the Christian mileu. No number of whacko creationist theories based on biblical misinterpretation. No number of fear and guilt based admonitions hurled at me like spiritual weapons, will make me swallow doctrine and dogma, and no number of threats of being tossed into the non-existent hellfires at end times will win me back into the fold of the brainwashed and deluded "sheeple".
I firmly believe that mankind created all gods and will continue to create them. I'm also convinced that when my body dies I won't be finding myself in front of a god depicted in human form because In other words, I don't have "religion" or "faith" and I am not bound by the delusional belief that I have a "personal relationship" with a non-existent supernatural being. Therefore to me meeting god means becoming one with all that is just as I do when I meditate. -
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That's from a kid's coloring book. But don't you know that
Christians claim they don't brainwash their kids? [rolling eyes]
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In my opinion if you look at all the lifeforms on Planet Earth in an open-minded way there is an intelligent design to these creations...
Many people refer to various bibles as the word of G-d...This in my opinion is blasphemous as the bibles do not match up in quality or substance to the woundrous creations on this planet...The various bibles in my opinion are the words of man, certainly not the words of the Creator of these complex creations on Planet Earth...
What I find ironic is the growing number of people who blindly worship corny scientific theories and hypotheses such as the big bang and evolution as facts that somehow explains everything...
Having said all that considering the complexities of all the creations on Planet Earth almost anything is possible including the bible stories...
I will swear there ain't no heaven but pray there ain't no hell...
Nonetheless I for one am truly thankful for all the blessings bestowed on us by our Creator... -
The same way it explains Fred Flinstone and his pal Barney Rubble. Sheesh!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Flintstone -
Is there any conclusive proof that mankind was alive during the Dinosaur era ?
Apparently ants were alive during the Dinosaur era as numerous ants have been fossilized alongside Dinosaurs... -
I understand that the intent of showing a man representing Jesus Christ on a dinosaur is intended to belittle; but I doubt that he ever rode a dolphin either. Do you suppose that they existed?
This is on the topic and may provide some insight:
Tracking the Ancient Griffin, Modern Monsters and the “Extinct” Pterosaur Through Art, History and Science
en.calameo.com/read/00005951030da4dc833f4
Also:Dinosaurs in History, Art and Literature
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this is a tangent but if you believe that the bible is a literal infallible book, noah must have put dinosaurs on his ark. how would one have done this? you would bring a dinosaur egg onto the boat. the largest dinosaur egg ever discovered is only a foot long. it would certainly be possible, but likely? that is debatable.
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in the same way as the caveman did each had his own style of expression
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