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How many christians are on this board?
Posted by siralmo • 6/09/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: christians, how, many
it was put to me in another thread the idea that there was a discrimination towards christians
to which my response was how can we discriminate to a majority?
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So the question is, how many christians are on this board
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you don't have to be opinionated, i'm just curious as to the number of people who would define themselves as christian
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Not too many people responding to your posts.
I am not afraid to say I am a follower of Jesus. I try to avoid saying I am a Christian because it usually stirs negative responses.
Some Christians put off the image that they are perfect compared to non-Christians. I am no different than any other person. I sometimes sin and need God to forgive me. I am a jerk at times and need others to forgive me. I will never be perfect in this life and neither will anyone else. If any person trys to claim they are better than someone just because they are Christian they are nothing more than a self-righteous religious person. Jesus had no use for that type of person.
We are all in the same boat with only one paddle each. We will get alot farther up the river if we paddle together than trying to do it alone. I am a broken human just like everyone else.-
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@ inclark Amen 2 that bruh
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i had a few others that you can see in the related discussions section ... i'm just waiting for the asian and indonesian crowd to come around to fill the other conversations
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Well said--I don't follow Jesus, but I like what you said.
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Schfifty-five. -
I am, it's a very personal thing for me, I don't write about it much. -
Christian is not a religion to me
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I'm Christian. -
I am a Christian -
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I adhere to Esoteric Christianity. Sometimes called heresy. Toss in a healthy dose of Universalism as well, the idea that Jesus didn’t die only for born-again Christians but all humanity regardless of their personal beliefs. The Pope would not be pleased with me.-
Actually, there are quite a number of Christian Universalists. It makes trying to convert others a lot less important.
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I am a born again Christian, washed in the blood of the Lamb. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. He was crucified, dead, and buried, and rose again the third day. Salvation is by grace (not by works) through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
I am so imperfect, it seems ludicrous to say 'I am not perfect'.
My poetry is about my personal struggles and not religious in nature, though I know it's not the end of the story. My fulfillment is in Christ.-
Count me in...
I am a close follower of Jesus...
He's "The Man" !
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I am a Christian as well.
With that said, I do not believe that one particular faith has a lock on truth or that there is a single perspective on the nature of divinity that is correct to the exclusion of all others.
Also, religious-speak gives me a rash.
A well-examined faith is so much more compelling than over-reliance on biblical snippets. There is nothing wrong with being a thinking person and a tolerant person and a person who feels they can learn from the experience of others and choose to self-identify with a single faith practice.
I usually avoid overly religious discussions on the internet. But since you asked so nicely, Almo... here I am.
... and no, I don't feel discriminated against in the least.-
Well said.
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thank you ^^
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Here. I will speak about religion but I try to make it clear that it is not all I speak about, hospitality you know. I go to a Methodist church but in terms of doctrine I don't really follow a church, but I know I need to be in one, and I am. -
To answer your first question of "to which my response was how can we discriminate to a majority?"
The very definition of the word makes no mention of a majority or of a minority. Discrimination is all about distinguishing someone (for whatever reason) based on a particular trait, feature, belief, etc... As a white male, I can be discriminated against. Just like anyone else. Of course, the levels of discrimination vary based on the discriminator, but it's discrimination nonetheless. If you want an example of this, check out reddit.com and look at the posts in the "Athiesm" section. It is rife with comments such as "stupid christian" or "those fundie christians are all evil." To some on there (not all, but some) "Christians," to whatever the degree, are all the same. They cannot be reasoned with, they are not educated, and they certainly shouldn't be using their faith when science looms so large over our heads. Hence, discrimination. -
There's a difference between Christians and the far end of evangelical. I dare say regular garden variety Christians live their lives fairly peacefully. The evangelical gets a bucket of spit dumped on his or her head, but that's generally the reaction to anyone obnoxious.
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amen
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"I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Keep the spit coming.
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Well said and thank you. It's been my experience that the particular sect you name contains many members who seem to have conveniently forgotten what it was that Jesus taught - peacemaking. -
@Timethief: No, you misread:
"Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple." (Luke 25-27; New International Version)
"Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish." (Luke 13: 1-5: New International Version)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17)
vs.
[Law of War] "When you lay siege to a city for a long time, fighting against it to capture it, do not destroy its trees by putting an ax to them, because you can eat their fruit. Do not cut them down. Are the trees of the field people, that you should besiege them?" (Deuteronomy 20: 19; New Internnational Version)
" 4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city." (Matthew 22: 4-7)
Or for that matter any time in the bible where the disciples are tangling with the pharisees. There is no contradiction here with "blessed are the peacemakers," for it is not undesirable to wish for a good peace, a worthy peace. See timethief, it is not fighting which is evil, it is THE LOVE of fighting which is evil.
While peacemaking is desirable, and those who like fighting for fighting sake are indeed accursed, it is not always worth the cost.
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thank you all for your input so far, but it is not necessary to justify yourselves
i was thinking it would be me more of a yes or no type thread-
Jesus hater
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Eh. We just like to talk. See, we're not allowed to drink you under the table, so we have to talk you under the table instead.
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I am a Christian, and I have not felt discriminated against.
However, I have been annoyed by people trying to convert me to their specific brand of Christianity. -
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Matthew 10
32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. -
I am a Christian......PEACE -
Nostradamus: Century V, Quatrain 1
Before the coming of Celtic ruin,
In the temple two will parley
Pike and dagger to the heart of one mounted on the steed,
They will bury the great one without making any noise.
Nostradamus: Century V, Quatrain 2
Seven conspirators at the banquet will cause to flash
The iron out of the ship against the three:
One will have the two fleets brought to the great one,
When through the evil the latter shoots him in the forehead.
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Huh!
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what years do those quatrains relate to?
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I am quoting doctrine, as is our habit of doing here on BC. Actually the predictions of Nostradamus. Yet the writings of Nostradamus are similar to religious doctrine. They are subject to interpretation. Dogma, like Nostradamus, is in the eye of the beholder.
I have no clue what those quatrains mean. But why should that stop us? Sounds like somebody got shot in the head. Ouch!-
wrong spot
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I am one. Should I be afraid? Is there a great big target being painted on me as I type this?
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not by me ^^
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Heh heh. Good to see.
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siralmo taught me how to do a winky
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Heh heh. Perhaps if I'm good, he'll teach me too.
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Perhaps.
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Ruh ro u jacked another thread
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LOLOL
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Right here...waving at ya.....
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I see myself as a Christian, because I follow Jesus Christ, not because I am in a particular church.
The goal of the teachings of Jesus is to become one with Christ through the achievement of peace in acts of love and forgiveness. God created us perfect, and we are what the Christ is, pure light. That is what we will and did remember. Time is an illusion.-
I disagree. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. The goal of Jesus Christ was to reunite us with the Father after sin separated us from Him.
Jesus took the sins of the world on Himself when He was crucified on the cross, and conquered sin and death when He rose again. All those who come to repentance (which means changing your mind about sin) and believe on the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ shall be saved.
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I did not say that we are not in need of a savior. However, a savior can only give you back to your Father. You are still perfect as God created you, because He created you in His likeness. Otherwise, Jesus would make no sense in saying that you be perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect.
Besides that, ultimately the savior is you. You see this world as it is, and give it all the meaning it has for you. As that is so, you are its savior by releasing it back to light. "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Mt, 16:19)
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im a jew for jesus; does that count?-
Wait a minute. U are a person I wanna talk to. U say u are a jew for jesus. Do u believe jesus is devine? Or do you believe jesus was a good person?
I have been waiting on someone like u -
In terms of religious belief, the Judaism religion does not believe in Jesus's resurrection and do not acknowledge him as a fully divine entity and a full human being. That's what I know, I could be wrong. -
Yea I know that,but he said he was a jew for jesus. I was wondering what he meant by that.
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I would assume he means he is a Messianic Jew.
If that is what he means then the answer to his question is yes.
Messianic Jews are Christians.
If the term is unknown to some here the following URL is for a ministry I am familiar with it might add some insight.
www.menorah.org
Having gone to their services many times, I can attest they are 100% Christian. They just happen to be Jews who believe in Jesus Christ as being God. -
Awesome site! Now this is my next ? How can u be both. Its so confusing to me bc if you are a messianic jew,then does that mean they are practiceing both relgions bc I thought the whole basis of being jewish is they don't believe that christ is the messiah. Or does it mean that they are christian,and being a jew is their ethnicity?
And I have 1 more ? My aunts ex bf is from palestine. He says he doesn't like the jews in Isreal,but the one's over here are ok,but in the very next breath he tells me he thinks it was the jews that were responsible for 911,and that no jews were killed in the attack. Which I know is false,but I'm just wondering how he can truly believe such a thing. Which he does and it wasn't just him he and his family sat me @ the table and tried convincing me of this for 4 hrs. -
I'll tell you, almost anyone who lives in Israel or the West Bank or anywhere near that place is bound to be under the "spell of accusation" when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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@holly.
A messianic Jew is simple a person who is by heritage Jewish but has accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They may or may not have at one time been religiously Jewish, though most were.
As for your Palestinian acquaintance hatred of Israel and Jews is a part of modern Islam and a part of life in Islamic nations and communities.
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Circumcised twice!
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you must remember that if born to a jewish mother, you are always a jew no matter what you believe in
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Exactly. Historically speaking, there was a time when it was common for men of means to have multiple wives.
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Mk so it is an ethnicity not just religon......that helps
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I would have to add myself as a Christian -
I am a Roman Catholic.
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Could you also ask the Buddhist question
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I'm a true blue Roman Catholic.. -
I have Christian beliefs and have never felt discriminated against on the boards. But then as I am not a church goer etc maybe some people don't see me as Christian at all.
I have seen posts from "Christians" on many boards which basically amount to telling other readers how to live their lives, and other members have posted comments indicating they are not happy about that. I have seen comments from both extremes and most of what lies between! Whether or not I agree with any of them, some of them do seem a bit unnecessary to me - from both camps.
I think it is easy to cry "discrimination" when there are polar opposites.
And I don't believe numbers matter. There are more women than men in the world. That doesn't wipe out discrimination against women. Majority isn't the issue. Attitude and action are what make discrimination, whether against only one person or many.-
Wow... I couldn't have put that better myself. Can we pretend that I was the one who actually typed that?
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LOL sure!
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The common denominator between the two groups - a high percentage at least - is Kant's categorical moral imperative (do the other person's good - from your perspective).
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Yes! I am a Christian. Thanks for asking! -
Yep I am right here I am raising my hand to that. I just do not attend a church at this point in life -
Religious faith appears to be based primarily on one's social environment growing up. Just as language is. I didn't study the world's languages and choose to speak English. And even within an English language culture I was given a particular accent.
One can change these. Modify. Even learn and become comfortable with an entirely new language. But we still retain echoes of what we were given.
I was born in an Ozark hill country culture. Our religious culture was primarily Baptist or Methodist. Most of my childhood friends remain so connected to varying degrees.
I believe if I had been born in an Irish countryside environment, the majority of us would be anchored to Catholicism. If born in Iran, a good possibility Muslim faith would be our bedrock. Hinduism, Buddhism...it applies to all.
Just as language does. We can all change our own. Or retain what we were given.
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very well said
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Rivy, comparing religion to language is a great metaphor. We are the reflection of our culture, including religion. How can anyone assume someone who believes in another religion is damned to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity? It would be like the death penalty for speaking another language. Pretty darn severe, if you ask me.
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I agree rivy's use of this metaphor was an excellent choice. Thank you rivy.
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You calling out Christians? Well, this is a chance to say I am one and hopefully not offend anyone. understand the "grief" so non-believers go through when being called up to admit that they are in fact non-believers like that have to answer to people. I'm not one of them. I live by the example of Christ and you either accept the benefits from that or not - no harm done otherwise, I promise -
SheGo, would agree our religion is a reflection of our culture? I think that is a glorious thing! I salute people of faith…all people of all faiths. Lets have tolerance for other people’s cultures and religious beliefs. I might have certitude my own faith is the true one, but humor the majority of humanity who don’t share our own specific conviction. It is good manners, if nothing else.
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I do, very much so! We have to adopt that tolerance sometime, right? People are way too different not to - hopefully we can also apply it in a positive perspective and not a burden.
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why does it have to be tolerance?
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I only said that because there are somethings people just cannot stand and in order to see past it involves tolerating it for however long.
I wish everyone has the "open arms" attitude but like most things, it something that can only be expected lightly - not to put anyone down here. -
i guess so ... acceptance is my ideal
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former christian... maybe i should start a similiar thread of counting the heads of the happily deconverted.
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