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How will you describe Death?
Posted by dosox • 8/29/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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Are you curious about Death? If so... say something about.. Death
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I have experienced death . . . briefly.
My experience left me believing there is really nothing to fear. It was nothingness. Sweet nothingness.
I have to say, it was a great way to die--although I hope I don't die that same way again (heroin overdose).-
MTyler:
i'm not convinced that it was death. Are you aware of any other things that happened just before you returned to consciousness. Usually there is some awareness of gpoing out of the body if it's a death experience
Dosox:
Any times a week is downright dangerous, you're dealing with a very fine delicate instrument called the brain -
@accousticguitarist--I stopped breathing and my heart stopped beating. It was not simple CPR that brought me around. The paramedics were called and brought me back to life--I can't say for certain what happened but it was the paramedics who told me that I had actually died. The last thing I remembered was thinking, "this is the best I ever felt." And then I died.
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I just had this conversation with my eldest sister, yesterday. I confided I have been worrying about death, dying, etc., for the past twelve years. I said that I had, only days before decided that, "One day ... I'll wake up and be dead." There was a pause of silence on the phone and thus encouraged I went on, "Yeah, I decided to live again and stop worrying about it anymore." It really is a waste of time, you know. Live, party and dance.
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An abrupt stop in the metabolism of brain cells, which causes every cell in the entire nervous system to experience cellular death simultaneously.
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@dosox
I have also briefly experienced death. My personal experience of death paralleled my meditation experiences. Once individuality, personality, and ego are entirely extinguished and all the things associated with the self like greed, anger, hate, etc. dissolve is there really is no self. There is no distinct being that is separate from the universal stream of pure consciousness. It's this universal stream of consciousness that I refer to as 'god'.
And, now that I have answered you dosox I would like you to reply to the same question you have posed to us. Will you please share your thoughts on death with us. -
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@piodalcin
Maybe and maybe not. Maybe what some think of as and end is the beginning of all. Perhaps the universal stream of consciousness is life and as such perpetually gives rise to all living things. If that's so then we have immortality for, in essence, we and all the other living things would then be aspects or reflections of 'god'.
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I'm curious, but basically I think of it as the end of life. I have no idea what happens ... and don't concern myself by thinking about it a lot. I'm always fascinated by how many people are fascinated about what happens after death ... not sure why people are so concerned tho ... who cares, live life.
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@drowseymonkey
I agree that these kind of topics that are endlessly posted here on the forum pertaining to heaven hell, life and death are at the very least time wasters. Worse still, they usually become a soapbox for amateur wannbe evangelists. What a shame we cannot have spiritaul discussions with religion creeping in..
lol ... I suppose posting these topics can make you feel like you have come up with something that no one else has ever considered, unless or until you look in the forum searchbox. The truth is that such topics are best discussed only among close friends who have built a relationship based on respect, trust and mutual affection.
I am spiritually aware but I did not think much at all about death until I left and came back again. Now I feel no fear at all. I am assured that I will be joyfully and peacefully join the oneness of all in the universal stream of consciousness so I simply live my life now without worrying about dying. -
@dosox
With respect I point out that there is no empirical evidence that such a thing as the soul exists. In fact, many people do not believe there is such a thing as a soul. And, as it cannot be successfully argued that there is such a thing don't you think it's best to allow people to answer you without arguing with them? -
Edit to replace the last sentence of the first paragraph above n my comment above. That sentence was meant to read: "What a shame we cannot have spiritual discussions without religion creeping in."
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/how-will-you-describe-death#comment_55361...
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People living deeply have no fear of death.
"I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." - Winston Churchill -
Hi DrowseyMonkey
Living deeply has no religious reference. It's simply a quite by Anais Nin, which I found quite prophetic.
I too am not religious. I do not believe in religion, but I do believe in the spirituality of man. -
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Do tell.
(1) Do you wish to live a life in fear of dying lest you be punished for your mistakes?
(2) Do you wish to live a life based on the notion of receiving a reward for acting decently as we all ought to do?
(3) Or do you wish to enjoy living a deeply conscious life, wherein you forgive yourself when you make mistakes along the way? -
[(1) Do you wish to live a life in fear of dying lest you be punished for your mistakes?
(2) Do you wish to live a life based on the idea of receiving a reward for acting decently as we all ought to do?
(3) Or do you wish to live a deeply conscious life and forgive yourself when you make mistakes along the way?]
I take #4: Live my life in the way I want to live it, beat myself up every time I produce less than perfect results, try harder, and try to harm as few people as possible along the way. However, that's because I'm a perfectionist at heart. -
[I don't recommend continuing on that "driven" path because my experience is that it will eventually result in burn-out and depression.]
I never get depressed, though. That's the funny part.
I criticize myself until I figure out what I did wrong, then I switch gears and praise myself for everything I did right and I figure out how to make it better. -
Of course, you don't get depressed now. You are not full grown and you produce a full serotonin load. For type A's the age of crashing and burning due to over-achievement and prolonged stress is between 30 and 50.
You say: "criticize myself until I figure out what I did wrong, then I switch gears and praise myself for everything I did right and I figure out how to make it better.
I say: Way to go. That's what taking care of yourself is all about. Those who do not know how to nurture themselves have unrealistic expectations and make unhealthy demands on their family members, friends and life partners. They expect the others to do their work for them.
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@timethief
you are right.... thanks.
Let me ask you another thing...
i guess there is no heaven and hell then. -
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Hey Guys, Please don't get me wrong...
I don't mean to say anything about religion.... except something about Death... because death is also a part or stage of our life.
If i am wrong, i am sorry. -
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I think it's possible words like life force, soul, spirit and pure consciousness can mean all mean the same thing to different people who experience them but who call them by different names.
However, when we try to openly examine these concepts on the forum it seems someone always rushes in quoting scripture, dogma or doctrine that creates an exclusive definition. That's my primary objection to religion. It's exclusive, rather than inclusive.
No amount of scripture recitations to the effect of the invitation to conversion is open to all is acceptable to me because it shuts the door to any further respectful dialog. People who dwell on the the invitation to conversion is open to all line are just regurgitating the stuff they were taught to regurgitate. What regurgitating verses memorized by rote masks is the exclusiveness of the belief system from which the are extracted.
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I wrote a poem that expresses my feelings on death...Its hard for me to repost it, but here it goes...
Life it seems, will fade away
Drifting further every day
Getting lost within myself
Nothing matters no one else
I have lost the will to live
Simply nothing more to give
There is nothing more for me
Need the end to set me free
Things not what they used to be
Missing one inside of me
Deathly lost, this Cant be real
Cannot stand this hell I feel
Emptiness is filling me
To the point of agony
Growing darkness taking dawn
I was me, but now he 's gone
The force of death is one of the most powerful experiences the human psyche can endure.-
@RichManofAction
I truly appreciate your sharing of your poetry. I don't have the courage to share mine either here or on my blog. I'm not a psychologist but I have been depressed and that's what your poem communicates to me. I'm not clear on why, but I strongly feel that I should be encouraging you to move towards the light.
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@timethief
[People who dwell on the the invitation to conversion is open to all are just regurgitating the stuff they were taught to regurgitate.]
[Religions think they have the monopoly on all matters related to death and the negligible possibility of life-after-death; so expect this to sinusoidally ebb from religion to metaphoric spirituality.]
.... Life can be lived without the bibles, qurans etc... -
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@dosox
FWIW janizarzagon is a Christian who posted this thread on the forum just recently www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/does-your-faith-alone-can-save-you
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For the untrained, they say that death is like having a rose bus pulled through your body from one end to the other.
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I wrote a post about death this month....you can check it out here treatortrick.blogspot.com/2008/07/when-his-search-completesyoull-never.html
I have narrated the story...like...some one searching for you... in this whole wide world. When his search completes.....you'll never see this world again. EVER!! -
We make of the experience whatever our expectations are based upon beliefs, etc. But afterward we're essentially in the same "place" as when we dream, only we retain the awareness that there's no actual tangibility to our existence other than the time we spend in actual bodies on the earth plane. So...it's sort of like dreaming only way, way cooler. You can reach similar states through meditation etc, or between-lives regressions. Again, though, your experience depends a lot on what you expect from it. Death itself tends to come as a welcome thing once people are actually close to it. We're only scared because we've intentionally forgotten how wonderful that other world is.
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so whoz into knowing death ! the death as a phenomenal stuff can be peaceful and all ( u all commenting are not dead ) , while meeting with the one who controls death and all is the superb person u cant dare to stare at ! ur feet will skip the earth beneath you ! -
Here's another perspective on the transition from life to death
Ulla Jacobs has been a researcher for over 35 years and is the author of Hidden Laws: Ultimate Tools for Divine Co-Creation. www.amazon.com/dp/1412082145?tag=toolsfortransfor&link_code=as3&creative=37...
The Law of Transition governs a process that many seem to fear - death. This law provides for a smooth exit, a shift from one reality to another.
I call this the "take a bow" law because we get to take a bow and leave the stage, as we shed the most recent costume. Leaving the body behind, we journey through the veil to enter the other side.
A period of transition then allows the soul to re-adjust from being on the earth plane. The length of time depends upon how versed the soul has become with this procedure. Advanced souls that have been in body many times, breeze through this process. We get a cosmic light shower to remove any debris and negativity that are not compatible with the one vibration of love. When the soul is ready, a life review is presented. This allows the soul to evaluate important issues in order to gain insight from the experiences.
Were the lessons learned; the contract met? It must be made clear at this point that no judgments are made and no punishment is delivered. These negative vibrations cannot live within this loving supportive realm. When people ask me why there would be no recrimination for killing others, I reply that this would be futile since those presumably killed are all still there. No one was really killed. It was all illusion, part of the play we participated in, to bring about soul advancement.
When the transition process is complete the soul gets to reside, once again, with its family. Soul families form alliances based on levels of advancements. Again, it's a matter of seeking comfortable companionship, just as we often draw to people of similar vibration while on earth. The body may die but the consciousness lives on.
When the final act is over, we get to shed the costume and go home to re-evaluate the most recent performance. Then we get to decide if we want to act in another play or not. It's all about choices while Universal Law helps to take care of the details.
Instead of fearing this transitory state, we should embrace it. When the time comes we get to go home. The Law of Transition provides the way. -
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Its scary to think about death. cause you dont know what happens and that moment and no one has ever been dead and came back. besides those people who were liek struck by lightning or those other accidents where like they are dead for liek 3 seconds and then they are brought back alive pretty crazy.
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All I have to say about death I learned from www.countdeath.com
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I believe death is just a way to move on. I believe in reincarnation (as I have "flash backs" of times I was in another person in another time) so I really don't worry about death. It is an interesting thing, death, as nobody can really say what comes after, even if they had been clinically dead for some time. Not to diminish the experience, I just think that the transformation from life to "permanent" death or new life won't be instant.
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What an interesting conversation topic - thank you.
Having brushed with death myself and lost people close, it is not a subject I shy away from. It intrigues me. In British culture death is rarely spoken of, and unbelievably the mantra "it'll never happen to me" seems to foolishly apply. Not surprising I guess - as as soon as loved ones draw near to death they are whisked away from us and we are removed from the whole experience.
I can't say I fear death, nor do I yearn it. Same with life I guess. It just is.
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