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I am homosexual
Posted by rcal4848 • 5/15/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: gay, homosexual
I am homosexual. I know I have allies in this world, I would like to hear from those who disagree with who I am. Speak up so you can be struck down by logic.
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How can anyone disagree with who you are? You are who you are and the sexual orientation you have is the one you have and that's that. Why on earth would you post a thread and invite homophobes to bash who you are? I don't get it, unless of course, you are eager to create controversy and looking forward to getting off on being in the center of it.
FWIW I'm a Canadian who has actively advocated for same sex marriage both in my own country and in yours. In Canada this is a fait accompli. Also if you use the BC Discussion searchbox you will find all the threads that I have posted the logical arguments for treating all humans beings equally (identical human rights) regardless of sexual orientation.
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I'd rather have entered this thread and been hit with gay midget porn than to be asked to attack someone because of who they are. Shame on you!-
ROFLMAO - Midget Porn... *giggle* -- Even Midgets have to have sex... I mean - come on... LMAO... -
I know, but it doesn't mean I need to see it.
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Its strange how the discussions have trends. They used to go from religion to politics to religion.... and now they are going totally homosexual.-
So I've noticed.
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I am a pastor and I believe homosexuality is a sin but it is not a worse sin than any other sin such as greed, lust, pride, gossip, etc. If you were to come to our church you would hear messages about sin but you would also hear messages of hope and love not condemnation. There is not one person who attends church that has no sin.
Jesus came to save, Satan enjoys condemning.
So I guess you would just have to join me at the alter asking Jesus to forgive us. I prefer focusing on those things I need to correct and let you work out what you need to correct on your own. Afterall there are more fingers pointing at me than there is at you.-
I think there are more pointing at me lol, nice response, non judgemental it's refreshing
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And I care about your sexual practices how?
I don't live in your life - and I don't give one wild iota that you might be gay, not gay, strange, not strange, friendly, not friendly, married, not married - happy or sad.
I don't care what you do at home, or out at the clubs.
I am not you - so I cannot tell you what to do.
Besides, My brother is gay, other family members are gay - and I've lived that lifestyle before, it just wasn't for me.
Why the heck would I care - and most definetely why would I condemn or argue with anyone about the style of sex they have or who they love?
Strange thread, I'm telling you, strange thread.
Why is it that people demand to tell others what they do in bed or who they love --- as if it is important to anyone else, is completely beyond me.
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The biggest thing is how times have changed since I was in school in the 80s.
If you dare admited that, you would be beat to a pulp most likley back then. Not one gay kid was in school in the 80s that I ever knew; guy or girl. I never remember anyone saying they were gay, or wanted to be gay. Every guy dated a girl.
I wish we had a time machine or something so say in 1985 someone from 2009 would come back then and tell us what it would be like 25 years later. They would have never believed it the kids.-
It's not there were less gay kids back then, its that no one admitted it. It was worse for these kids back then, not better.
I am so tired of people talking about how much better things used to be when there was repression and discrimination. It's just not true.
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Good luck with being attacked, I guess. -
Treat that as a gift from God.-
how is a sexual preference a gift from god? -
It is not a preference, it is an orientation. BIG difference. -
po-tay-to po-tah-to .. how is either a gift from GOD?
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why would I do that, it's not my biz
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Like I said I know I have many allies. Thank you for being reasonable persons. It's the ones who think its a sin, or who have been raised to hate it. Those are the truly ignorant. I'm angry to be honest. You may not care about the situation, but the fact of the matter is, gays are prejudiced against more than any other group. when will a gay president be elected? Never. Oscar Wilde was imprisoned for his homosexuality and the everyday homosexual is still imprisoned in social norms. It's inhuman! Words can not explain the subjugation! I want revolution!
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It's a dangerous and foolish statement to say you are persecuted more than anyone else. You may feel that way, but I'm sure that there are people out there who have suffered the same or much worse than you for being a certain religion, race, nationality. The world is a great place, but can be very cruel too. To say that homosexuals suffer more than other persecuted groups is ridiculous and naive.
have you been forced to locate to a refugee camp because you are a homosexual? have you friends and family had their hands chopped off or their parents killed in the street because you are homosexual? Not saying that homosexuals don't suffer and i am not trying to minimize anything you may have gone through, but I think your statements are exaggerated. -
homosexual or not.. you don't strike me as too bright.
Sorry, no1 here hates you for your choice - is there really a problem with that? Stop inciting bullshit -
Excuse my nasty comment, if I could edit it I would, but I ran out of time. I see that you are just having a bad day, like suzie said below - I've been there too.. hope everything works out for you
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Like I said I know I have many allies. Thank you for being reasonable persons. It's the ones who think its a sin, or who have been raised to hate it. Those are the truly ignorant. I'm angry to be honest. You may not care about the situation, but the fact of the matter is, gays are prejudiced against more than any other group. when will a gay president be elected? Never. Oscar Wilde was imprisoned for his homosexuality and the everyday homosexual is still imprisoned in social norms. It's inhuman! Words can not explain the subjugation! I want revolution!"
Sheesh GROW UP.
Move somewhere where it is acceptable. (Think Frisco).
Stop your self pity - and get up off your arse and LIVE.
YOUR CHOICE of LIFESTYLE --- or YOUR LIFESTYLE does NOT affect who YOU ARE.
Stop listening to what other people think - LIVE YOUR LIFE.
Stop dwelling on the negative and being a DRAMA QUEEN.
Heterosexual couple who tell me that they are having sex this way or that piss me off too.
I DO NOT CARE --- HOW YOU HAVE SEX or WHO you have sex with.
I do not care if you love a donkey - or a flying pig.
I don't care if you have sex while swinging from a chandelier and spraying silly string everywhere.
I don't care about that.
When you put YOUR sexuality out there as THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR in your life --- YOU have stopped being a part of society.
Just like EXTREME RELIGIOUS FANATICS -- it's all they discuss - it's all they live... it's CULT LIKE.
You're gay ---- SO THE HECK WHAT?
If you --- YOU --- believe that being gay limits you - then it limits you.
You are the one who has to decide what limits you.
I'd think more along the lines that you are the ONLY one who can limit yourself.
IF being GAY is the center of your Universe - and the ONLY thing that is on your mind - and you have become an US vs. THEM mentality... then YOU are part of the problem.
When you realize that life is what it is... and that you're life is normal - and not something you need to shout from the rooftops, that you just need to LIVE...
Then you will start to understand.
FORGET what people think.
Find like minded people.
I'd rather know that you were into RPG games, or enjoyed reading books or had recipes to share, instead of just knowing that you were gay.
I mean - YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING IT AN ISSUE...
That's the problem.
GLBT folks who are screaming that they are different are the ones who need to realize that THEY ARE NOT DIFFERENT.
THEY ARE NOT SPECIAL - no more than I am --- or Joe Blow is.
They should never be harmed or treated badly -- but neither should I or Joe Blow...
It is ALL a matter of perspective.
If someone around me started screaming "I'm a VAMPIRE - and VAMPIRES are treated so badly - WHY CAN'T WE BE TREATED EQUALLY"
I'd probably say the same thing.
BY categorizing yourself - you choose to separate yourself.
By just being YOU - and finding others like you -- YOU become society.
But screaming that you are different - makes you different.
It's PERSPECTIVE.
Just live.
Just be.
Don't dramatize it.
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I believe it is a sin, and I hate it.
Doesn't mean that I hate you.
I believe I'm a sinner just as I believe you are, homosexuality just so happens to not be a sin I have partaken in.
You want a revolution?
I had been under the impression that the homosexual revolution had already begun.
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The fact that you say you will strike you're naysayers down with logic is baffling as the fact that you posted a thread just to be attacked and start arguments on purpose seems very illogical.
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I thought so too, but what do I know?
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And you are being honest to yourself and for getting out of your shell. -
This is a prime example of someone having a bad day...been there, done that.
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My day was quite good thanks. Yes I am prone to over generalization, but my pain is acute. Yes I know I need to stop dwelling in the anguish others try and heave on my shoulders; but would you tell that to a slave, or a Hutu refugee, that they need to toughen up and move. The fact of the matter is everywhere Homosexuals are without the love of families, orphans with parents feet away; and even worse than that, they do not get the opportunity to consummate their interest in another man. In past times when homosexuality was accepted, a homosexual man could come on to a man he found attractive, could express his true feelings. These days a homosexual who wants to remain part of the community must remain a spy. It goes much deeper than homosexuality, its really a problem with the categorization and subsequent belittling of the human spirit in everyone, by forcing us all into moral ideologies. OK I will be fine people, when I made that statement I was saying it for all the little boys and girls who off themselves cus they cant deal with their despair. All the children who are made to feel like monsters and their world is blackness. With a more accepting society those people maybe find a bit more hope, some things to hang on to.
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I have no problem with you wanting to help make the world a more accepting place. I fully support that idea. I just think that the way this discussion was started was provocative and your statements are way over generalized and thus lack credibility.
I have no problem allying myself with someone trying to promote acceptance and tolerance in this world. That is a noble goal. I will, however, only ally myself with someone who can express these ideals in a clear and eloquent manner that inspires other people to be better, not someone who tries to motivate people through confrontation, generalization and exaggeration.
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Bully for you.
What is the point of you're thread here?
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Why are you asking for people to attack you? (I am homosexual. I know I have allies in this world, I would like to hear from those who disagree with who I am.) That is narcissistic at the least!
I believe that homosexuality is a sin. I believe that lying is a sin and having an affair or being deceitful is a sin. I believe we can overcome sin
Now that is looking at it from a Christian point of view.
You choose how you want to live. That is up to you. I won't attack you. I won't put you down.
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seems a bit strange to me too
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"The fact of the matter is everywhere Homosexuals are without the love of families, orphans with parents feet away; and even worse than that, they do not get the opportunity to consummate their interest in another man."
I am not gay but I am estranged from my family. Your point is? There are many straight people that are away from their families as well for whatever reason.
If you want to consummate your interest in another man then go for it. It doesn't matter where you live, if he is gay he will respond, if not then I guess you will be outed but do what you feel is right.
Just like courting with a woman you can tell if they are interested or not. Do not try to play the martyr -
I wanted to bathe in perspective. I was feeling proud today of who I am for the first time in well forever and I decided I would invite all antagonists to come get some. You thinking homosexuality is a sin is a terrible thing. You don't understand what that does to a boy or a girl in a religious family who decides they are attracted to the same sex. Your promoting it reinforces that pain.
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In other words, based upon your emotions, your personal feelings, I am not allowed my opinion.
Unlike myself and all other persons I know in life, you have the right to not be offended?
Your emotions, your feelings and your perceived rights trump my right to hold an opinion?
Just want to make sure I understand.
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"but would you tell that to a slave, or a Hutu refugee, that they need to toughen up and move."
I would in certain circumstances... And YOU are NOT one of those.
People who OFF themselves have issues much deeper than being gay.
Truly rcal - you ARE who you ARE.
Don't feed it - and don't despair over it.
If you're gay - deal with it and just BE YOU.
There are so many communities out there - who don't care what you do in your bedroom.
Find your TRUE love - it takes time, effort and a willingness to be in love and be hurt... But Find them.
Families that discard family members for their lifestyle are wrong but that is their own loss and choice. I cannot help them.
You cannot change people rcal.
You can anguish or you can step up to the plate and be proud, be strong and carry on.
You can simmer in depression - or you can go get some help with it if it is a medical condition.
You are YOU.
Trust in yourself - believe in yourself - everything else will fall into place.
Be good to yourself - be true to yourself.
Surround yourself with people who CARE about YOU - not what you choose to have sex with.
Stop BELITTLING yourself and you will find others will stop belittling YOU.
I send you a hug - and I hope that YOU are strong enough to read what I am writing and understand that it is a PEP talk to wake you up and make you realize --- IF YOU WANT SOMETHING - YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR IT - and MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Inner strength is what you need to draw from.
Find it - and find the peace that comes with it.
Stop trying to hurt yourself - instead - find the beauty in life. -
I am Gay. I am Happy.-
happy and gay!
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Jaybetee thanks for being that stiff sally who latches on to a single sentence of a message that has a core of power other than that sentence. No really, you help the instigator be more concise and logical, while completely missing the point and the power of the statement. O and what is logic? I started the post, I could start a post on boys A**&*&les and you say in your emotionless drawl "oh that is not logical" You are almost as selfish as me arguing for concise logic in online blog in order to seem smart and catch viewers for your blog. Yes I was being confrontational I am angry about the issue.
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I do not care if you are happy, I do not care if their are communities out there. Yes you can change people. 50 years ago a black man would be hung for hitting on a white lady. Today we are doing better: what happened? Change. It can happen and it should happen. LIKE I SAID, and you will not hear me. I am going to be fine. I am on my way to being happy. I know there are people who that happiness is not in sight like it wasn't for me for so long. I just want the world to be more accepting. It isn't that much to ask for. And if it was achieved the world and existence would be much more barable for everyone!
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well i'm tired and goin to bed soon so ya'll gonna have to deal with them spelling errors. Peace
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Yes,i am understand. I have God. N Im always, I wish God help me to let it,them,and ... far away from me and my life! Thx
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I don't think anyone is telling you to toughen up as you put it , I think they are saying to not give a shit about shitty opinions. And, if those shitty opinions bother you why ask people to state them even more?
silly boi, just be who you are
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Woof!
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I think the Bard summed it up best in "Hamlet": This above all: to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man.
Anyone who gets in the way is not worth much consideration - they're basically asking you to lie. -
why?
do love hot chicks!? -
You know, lots of other people get discriminated against...it is an unfortunate part of life. Not everything is rectified or resolved in our own time frames, but if the society is moving in the right direction, then you need to appreciate the gains and be patient. Once upon a time in most of America black people and white people could not marry each other, black people were limited as to where they could live, and there was no such thing as civil rights unless you were white, male, straight, and Christian. Today, few people pay attention to mixed race couples, black people work in the professions, live in upmarket neighbourhoods and belong to country clubs. Today, the country is moving in the same direction for gays. Have some patience.
There will always be ignorance and ignorant people who think their opinions are facts. You can simply acknowledge that and move on, or you can get stuck tilting at windmills. The self-righteous who think being gay is a sin and who refuse to apply their minds to the issue are not worth your time...nothing you can say will change their minds because their minds are impenetrable to such things as logic or even contradictory fact. There are still people in America who think the races should not mix...although they are nowadays considered antidiluvean nutcases. Given enough time, that attitude will come about towards those who think homosexcuality is a sin. But you can't rush it...these things come about in their own time and you must cultivate the patience to wait for it.
That is not to say you cannot be an activist...but if activism is your thing, then use your energy productively and work towards getting gay marriage and other rights recognized nationwide. You won't change the minds of those who think you are a sinner (as if they are not!) but you can help those who support you to coalesce into a force that drowns out the noise of the ignorant and bigoted. -
Yes Sweet Violet, a very thoughtful response. Rang true in my ears.
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You may have many allies, but they all hit like girls..
Oh and as for logic... Round Peg, round hole, Once you figure out that you're the one rubbing the pegs together, logic isn't the first thing i'd claim.
Seriously, there is nothing I have less respect for than people whos sexuality become their leading trait in their identity. If the most interesting and important thing about you is what turns you on, you are seriously lacking in personality.-
perfect post
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Very much agreed, my friend.
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I won't go into how depth less and ignorant that last comment is. You can see the mental water line of where this guys struggling attempts at forming concise arguments turned to ignorant oblivion and soaked into the sands of nothingness. Shallow stuff.
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rcal4848 are you homo since young? or your orientation changed along the way
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I have to agree with the sentiment exhibited by timethief. Troll-baiting is not a good idea. -
my, my, my. one drama queen, two conscientious objectors and two old hands trying to right the thread. color this fag BORED. -
Since when has this place become a stage for gay people to show off their sexual attraction? There are other dedicated places for that, google is your friend.
Your gay, so what? Did we ask? What did we do wrong to make you think we're wondering "Hm, I wonder if rcal4848 is straight or gay...".
I do not get the urge for people to tell everyone in the world and their dogs their sexual orientation. Keep it to yourself unless asked.
And no I'm not a homophobe. -
I am blond and short.
neither of those things matter either.
life is for living th best that you can, as long as you're living your life these little details really don't maytter much. -
I don't disagree with who you are. No one can disagree with who anyone is. But neither is a person "defined" by their sexuality IMHO. Sorry not to bring the fight you were after! -
Let peace be peace
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I have learned some valuable things about society from this discussion thanks.
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I am partly homophobic..
I don't mean I am against gays or anything like that.. I love Freddie Mercury and countless other gays and I have nothing against Gay rights or their sexual preferences..
I am just a bit put off by some of their mannerisms.. body language and the way they dress..
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Rcal: Thanks for expressing your true feelings and being brave enough to express your anger openly. Personally, I can't understand what all the fuss is about. If people didn't like what you had to say, they could've ignored this thread and moved on. -
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"Speak up so you can be struck down by logic."
So obviously you think anyone who doesn't think like you is illogical - that's actually the premise for any argument. Otherwise everyone could logically think the same, and we would all be like Spock.
I sense a bit of discomfort in your statements, and some animosity.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't think you're getting many fights here!! -
I don't care if you have sex while swinging from a chandelier and spraying silly string everywhere
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hahahaha, rotf
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I simply do not get it. How could I even respond to anything like that? I don't sleep with you. My brother doesn't sleep with you. Who cares? I think that Americans have a hell of lot of more stuff to worry about than if we agree or disagree that you are boning another man or woman or animal for that matter! lol -
girl, you're funny
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Yeah, I mean there are one or two small passages in the bible that, translated to english (that's key), would seem to say homosexuality is a sin, but:
1) They may actually be speaking about the Greek practice of men having sex with boys (catamites, the other translation.) It also may be referring to the greek practice of disgracing your wife by overtly lying with another man (the other interpretation of the section in Deuteronomy.)
2) If you follow the holy spirit, I think we, as Christians, can all trust you to do right by your life one way or the other, and if not, well that's between you and the holy.
3) I am not your or anyone elses nanny.
4) The homophobes have done worse in any case, (the Golden Rule is a great commandment.)
and 5) God does not want you to be deprived, which is made considerably more clear in the bible. I do think you should marry though, one way or the other.
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