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India's 9/11 Mumbai Terror Attack on 26/11

Posted by KP • 12/01/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: america, human rights, india, indian poltician, mumbai terror, pakistan, terriorism, world

Hello all

We all condemn terror attack on (Mumbai)India on 26/11.
I KP salute our army , NSG , ATS,Marcos,Mumbai police and those who are involved in Mumbai terror attack rescue operations.Condolences to the all nationally and internationally families of innocent people who got killed in this cowardly act of terror.

visit blog at:
kashmirihindu.wordpress.com

share you views on this act of terror.

My Point is should India - America and other countries take a strong action of Pakistan who is linked with terror episode and this should not happen next time in other countrie's including india.

1) Are we ready to give befitting reply to the terriorist orginisation in pakistan and who is funded by ISI.

2) Should we goahead with war to bombard all terriorist Camp in POK,gilgit,wazirstan,mirpur,quetta and other area's.

3) It is time to retialiate and not to sleep.

4)Enough is enough should our politicians stop playing vote politics and show some action.

The Biggest challenge in this beautiful world is Terriorism and to fight against it is the major issue,worry in each country.

-Editor
KP

kashmirihindu.wordpress.com

User Comments

12/01/08

lotusb

I feel bad for the victems. But honestly, I think America has enough problems right now on their own. However, I'm sure we will get involved somehow.

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12/02/08

aks2008

Hi KP, thanks for inviting for me in this discussion. I had also started a similar discussion. And I will again say the same thing, this bloody terrorism will never stop until and unless there is a change in the mindset of the people belonging to a particular segment..I hope you are getting it. Of course, our government needs to take some harsh steps to combat this from occurring again. Mumbai incident is dumb shocking ! No words can describe...

Well, I am also not against war. Let it happen once and see !

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12/02/08

IbneAdam

Kashmiri Hindu

Instead of these hate sermons here, why not you raise your voice for the right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in line with UN resolution?

In last 20 years, Indian forces have killed over 100,000 Kashmiri Muslims. Have you ever raised voice for them?

www.ummah.net/kashmir/atroc/index.htm
hellinparadise.150m.com/
hellinparadise.150m.com/examples.htm

Please don not make blogcatalog a political and hate radiating forum, using for your baseless propaganda. There are many others sites. Better use those.

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1. 5/06/09
  
  aks2008
  
  Hi IbneAdam, just been through your links. Very shocking indeed. To be honest, I wasn't aware of all these. Just to let you know - I am not here to spread any hate. Maybe I was bit harsh with my words but in the end, I wish for a happy and a peaceful world. No, war cannot be a solution by any means. The solution is all left with people who have to decide finally between right and wrong.
12/02/08

weblogian

9/11 and 26/11 are total different situations. I hate this media infomercial headlines. I have seen many terrors and horrors by the Indian Army oppression in our state. And I never want to remember it.

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1. 12/03/08
  
  Norski
  
  Don't be too hard on people who don't recognize Indian terrorism.
  
  Hindu extremists don't get all that much attention in the English-language Indian press. And, Indian news media doesn't seem to have American news media's interest in exposing atrocities, real or imagined, committed by their respective countries' military.
12/02/08

amollimaye

There are many factors behind the attack on mumbai.
But nobody can deny the fact that they killed innocent people and I am sure everybody is opposed to killing innocent people and also to Terrorism.
We should oppose these people who in the name of relegion do such shameful acts.They belong to no religion.

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1. 12/02/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  "We should oppose these people who in the name of relegion do such shameful acts.They belong to no religion."
  
  Agree.
  
  But we should also oppose people who in the name of DEMOCRASY, WESTERN VALUES, FREE WORLD, GLOBALISATION etc etc, kill the INNOCENT PEOPLE.
  
  Human life is human life. Whether you kill an innocent person in the name of religion or such beautiful slogans as "world's peace" and "eliminating the threat", the gravity of crime remains the same.
  
  Let us all respect human life.
  Let us all eliminate the root causes of "all forms" of terrorism.
12/02/08

amollimaye

Do not worry about those who have come thru boats...
Our forces can easily defeat them.

WORRY about those who have come thru votes....
those are our REAL ENEMIES

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1. 12/02/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  Ah..............
  The best remarks.
12/02/08

KP

@ Ibne Adam.

Why should i support those peoples who supports islamic terriorism had they thought about Kashmiri pandit's.World's having close eye what is happening and who is creating propoganda.let's watch and see the the reaction of world of such barbaric act of terror and killed more than 200 lives.How shame is for those who use fund these people's who's mindset based only to one book.

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1. 12/03/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  @ KP
  
  "Had they thought of Kashmiri Pandit?"
  
  Kashmiri Pandit is quite comfortable in Kashmir.
  About 100,000 Muslims have been killed in Kashmir in last 20 years.
  This is despite the fact that
  
  1. Muslims are in Majority in Kashmir (about 80%).
  2. UN Security council grants the right of self determination to Kashmiri People through resolution No 47 of 1948 to either accede to India OR Pakistan. The Kashmiri Muslims are sturggling for this just right.
  
  Here is the link for the complete text of resolution (read para 7 under Plebesite).
  www.kashmiri-cc.ca/un/sc21apr48.htm
  
  Which says
  
  The Government of India should undertake that there will be established in Jammu and Kashmir a Plebiscite Administration to hold a plebiscite as soon as possible on the question of the accession of the State to India or Pakistan.
  
  For all others who believe India to be WORLD's Biggest Democracy, I'll request to see UN resolution on the Kashmir issue at the following link to see the facts
  
  www.kashmiri-cc.ca/un/
  
  What is happening there is a freedom moment,, which India is trying to suppress by deploying about 600,000 troops.
12/03/08

KP

What about the acession and who are agressors.

These are all propoganda nothing else now talk about statics you says are in majority which muslim is it Shia muslims who dont like or sunni muslims who are in tune of 45% and shia community is 35% which one to consider.Isn't you are misleding world there is no shuch problems in kashmir as far as human right are considered.It is the terriorst who are killing local and then still locals are blaming indian army.Had it has been then india have bombarded whole of kashmir in 1971 war.Did they ever do it NO........It is the fools who are circles round with pakistan as pakistan is not a civilized country all tribals wants to create such atmosphere which they don't want other countries to prosper.

Hence i don't even spit on these website who you are adressing in my blog it is the voice of kashmir india and pakistan kashmir.....Be always neutral and think like a civilized man not be bookish.

Regards

KP

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1. 12/03/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  Let us simplify it
  
  1. You said "These are all propoganda nothing else".
  Well, I have mentioned UN Resolutions. UN of 40s and 50s, when it was independent and just. Do you think UN resolutions are propaganda?
  
  2. "Sunni or Shia Muslims". The Un resolutions ask for a plebesite so that Kashmiris decide their fate. Shia/sunni/hindu/pandit is their own issue. The main point is 'LET THEM DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT". Is any thing wrong with that????
  
  3. "Isn't you are misleding world there is no shuch problems in kashmir as far as human right are considered".
  Well, 100,000 killed in last 20 years. For me, it is human right violation issue. May be not for you or for about 600,000 indian troops stationed in Kashmir.
  
  4. "It is the terriorst who are killing local and then still locals are blaming indian army".
  Well, either the LOCAL PEOPLE are extremely NAIVE or terrorists are magicians.
  
  5. "Hence i don't even spit on these website". I just referred UN resolutions. The text is original UN resolution text. Cross cjeck it from any source, dear.
  
  6. "Be always neutral and think like a civilized man not be bookish."
  
  Thanks for the advise. Let us be neutral and FAIR. Let us
  LET THE KASHMIRIs to decide their fate.
  
  Anything wrong with that????
12/03/08

dratiffarid

Technically speaking it is 11/26 and not the other way round.

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12/03/08

KP

First read UN resulution you have little knowledge UN resulution says first pakistan has to remove all army and Pakistani nationalist who are now majority in POK,NOrthern states and also told india can keep its security forces in tune of 5 lacs.Did till date pakistan as they are agressors has respected UN resulution Which Kashmir do you talk.What you talk rubbish about Kashmiri Pandit's who lives in exile in its own territory.Can kashmiri pandit's trust on you ......NO they won't Because you are infidels of society and don't know to live in civilized world.Weapon is your bread and butter because you are not qualified enough to fight with pen....you know guns only.Because mentally weak what your mullah's preach you do accordingly.Muslim's of whole world are ashamed of Pakistan,Sudan,Palistine,afghanistan...Because islamic fundamilists.Who have creating i am talking about Arab they are silent and enjoying life having 40-50 wives.Isn't it great.
Kashmir cannot decide it is not only it is jammu ,ladakh,gilgit,balwaristan,POk,aksai chin,saksham valley.Kashmir is a very small piece of land.Don't give wrong information and why should india go far pelbisite after 61 yrs it was decided by UN within 3yrs pelbisite to be done.Even recent comments From UN suggested that both countries should leave the demand and accept LOC as international border.

Also stop ethnic cleanising....

Regards

KP

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1. 12/03/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  Well, the only thing I can say is that let the people read your remarks and my remarks above and decide for themselves
  who is talking rubbish and who is talking sense
  who is civilised and who is not
  
  No UN, no plebisite, no democracy, only KP is right and those 600,000 Indian troops who have killed 100,000 people in last 20 years.
  If this is what you insist, there is no point responding to you further.
12/03/08

chacham100

I saw horrible pictures that reminded me of 911 here. It's all too real especially when I saw blood on the streets of NY with my own eyes.

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12/03/08

Norski

I haven't read your blog yet, but something caught my eye in your discussion-starter.

From what I've read, the civilian government in Pakistan does not seem to have much control over the ISI. Pakistan's 'intelligence agency' has apparently evolved into an independent organization, with its own rules, goals, and sources of revenue.

Attacking the civilian leaders in Islamabad might be emotionally satisfying to some Indians, but probably wouldn't be the wisest move.

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12/03/08

Norski

I still haven't read your post - but have skimmed it.

And, left a comment.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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12/04/08

manju19

Ibne Adam- You have said-

"Let us be neutral and FAIR. Let us
LET THE KASHMIRIs to decide their fate."

A plebiscite is useful only when all the people concerned are there to give their vote.
In the case of Kashmir, the Hindus have been driven out of the valley, and cannot give their vote in a plebiscite held in Kashmir.

So it would not be fair.

In any case, Kashmir is an integral part of India, and this fact is not open to discussion or vote.

India can never, and will never, let Kashmir be torn from us and given to Pakistan.

Neither the International community nor any country like the U.S. should have any say in this matter.

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1. 12/04/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  "A plebiscite is useful only when all the people concerned are there to give their vote.
  In the case of Kashmir, the Hindus have been driven out of the valley, and cannot give their vote in a plebiscite held in Kashmir".
  
  OK. Let us try to be FAIR again.
  What was the Hindu and Muslim populations (percentage) in Jammu and Kashmir in 1947 - 51?
  Let the Kashmiris cast their vote in that proportion.
2. 12/04/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  "In any case, Kashmir is an integral part of India, and this fact is not open to discussion or vote".
  
  Well, this is the grievience of Kashmiris. They were promised right of self determination by India and UN in 1948-51 period. If this is not open to discussion, and Kashmiris feel deprived of their just right, is their any wonder that a small percentage of them turns to violent acts?.
12/04/08

KP

@ Ibne adam,

What was the Hindu and Muslim populations (percentage) in Jammu and Kashmir in 1947 - 51?

Then you are looser the jammu and kashmir population at that time was 60% hindus( i am considering buddhist,sikhs and hindus) and 40% muslims (sunni and shia). So in that propotion you are loosers.Why should we consider 1947-51 why not 1552 -1553 when auranzeb killed 2.5 lacs of hindus and 7.5 lacs converted forcabilly to islam.How will you justify.If you go to history Muslim rulers has done more damange to hindus than east india comapany. You will see all the your clothes are full of blood strains and you talk about atrocities and human right .......Big shame.....

For further read my blog with open eyes WWW.kashmirihindu.wordpress.com i am partial and neutral i respect every religion every person of this world but not pakistani and kashmiri sunni muslims.

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1. 12/05/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  The problem in telling a lie is that it is self-contradicting. You just need a little analysis.
  
  You say that in
  
  "What was the Hindu and Muslim populations (percentage) in Jammu and Kashmir in 1947 - 51? Then you are looser the jammu and kashmir population at that time was 60% hindus( i am considering buddhist,sikhs and hindus) and 40% muslims (sunni and shia)"
  
  OK.
  
  1. If Hindus were in majority, why India refused to conduct a plebisite????
  
  2. Were Hindus in Majoirty? Read this (source: wickipedia)especially the last sentence for Jammu and Kashmir
  
  "In the 1901 Census of the British Indian Empire, Muslims constituted 74.16% of the total population of the princely state of Kashmir and Jammu, Hindus, 23.72%, and Buddhists, 1.21%. The Hindus were found mainly in Jammu, where they constituted a little less than 80% of the population.[18] In the Kashmir Valley, Muslims constituted 93.6% of the population and Hindus 5.24%.[18] These percentages have remained fairly stable for the last 100 years.[19] Forty years later, in the 1941 Census of British India, Muslims accounted for 93.6% of the population of the Kashmir Valley and the Hindus for 4%.[19] In 2003, the percentage of Muslims in the Kashmir Valley was 95%[20] and those of Hindus 4%; the same year, in Jammu, the percentage of Hindus was 66% and those of Muslims 30%.[20] In the 1901 Census of the British Indian Empire, the population of the princely state of Kashmir and Jammu was 2,905,578. Of these 2,154,695 were Muslims (74.16%), 689,073 Hindus (23.72%), 25,828 Sikhs, and 35,047 Buddhists".
  
  3. Aurangzeb Killed 2.5 M and forced 7.5 M to convert.
  
  LOVELY
  a. This makes a total of 10M (Hindu) population in 1552-52. If we include others, it will be around 15M. Jammu and Kashmir is a mountanious region and even today, it has a population of only around 5M. And it was 10-15M about 500 years ago????????????
  
  b. Those who were forced to convert by Auranzeb, why did not they reverted back to Hinduism after Aurangzeb's death????????
2. 12/05/08
  
  IbneAdam
  
  And if Aurangzeb forced 7.5M Hindus to convert to Islam, this means there were at least 7.5M people in Kasmir in 1552-3. What is that magic family planning recipi that made this number to reduce to about 5M in 500 years, instead of increasing by about 1-3% p.a. the normal rate. Please don't mention J&K Plague of 30s. It killed only few hundred people.
  
  Even a modest 1.5% population increase rate will make the population double within 50 years.
12/04/08

kashmirblogs

Dear K.p, Thanks for raising this sensitive issue.I can understand your feelings as I am also a victim of Islamic terrorism.I hope you must be still having the memories of atrocities commited on us by Islamic terrorists of kashmir.Do you remember how the ladies of our community were raped and massacared by muslim fundamentals?Do you remember how our community members were singled out and brutally murdered by the so called freedom fighters?do you still remember how your friend's father(sanjay) was killed by the so called jihadis by using a SHAVING blade? how do you felt when you saw the dead body of your friend"s father which bore thousands of blade cuts..Not a single blood drop was left in that body..Tell me how do you felt that time? IS THAT JIHAD?
The forced migration, was no doubt the handiwork of so called freedom fighters, who made it a point that not a single voice of minority community should be heard anywhere in the valley.Hundreds of our temples were destructed by the so called freedom fighters of kashmir...you know that..In the early 20th century kashmir had a population of more than one million kashmiri pandits and todaY not even 10,000 are left.Reason being Islamic terror.
Although Islam is one of the greatest religions and personally, I do admire the sufi Philosophy,I don't see any difference between Allah,God or Ishawr..as these are the terminologies for the same universal Creator, But, I really hate fundamentals who use religion as a tool to gain personal political benefits, and these are the persons who have made a religion like islam as being perceived as a religion of terror.In kashmir, the so called freedom fighters used islam as a sheild to defend and justify killings of hindus...
Mumbai terror attack was not the first attack, nor the last...It has been establised that Pakistan ISI was behind these terror attacks..Pakistan is using islam as a tool to create terrorist activities in India by inducting Indian muslim youth into Jihad..The real reason is that this strategy is very low cost war with no risk as being perceived as attackers by other countries and pakistanis are masters in this type of warfare.They have used the same strategy in 1947-48 in Kashmir when they sent Kabailis in kashmir and again in 1999 kargill war...

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12/05/08

lvs

why do you have to equate every event in India to something in the US? We have had some very major terrorist strikes on our soil and a lot of them by Indians themselves! 9/11 was perpetrated by foreigners but many of the terror strikes in India were done by Indians! We must realize the differences and find ways of fixing it. Like US found its solutions we must find our own. lets not go on finding equivalents for every happening in India in the western world. Our problems are unique and lets learn to solve them ourselves.

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1. 12/05/08
  
  NewBlogger2008
  
  Ivs- terrorism is terrorism, homegrown or not. General concepts in fighting terrorism is actually a relatively standard operation regardless of the country involved. These include consistently putting military and political pressure on terror groups, gathering acceptable and reliable intelligence, and preventing the spread of terrorist ideologies. The only differences occur in execution of counter-terror activities which must account for local populations and situations.
2. 12/05/08
  
  lvs
  
  indeed but when the attacker of a house is someone from within the house and when the attacker is from outside, the strategies to tackle them have to be different. It is easier to stop the outsider, not so with someone from inside.
  
  but yes for the common man terrorism is terrorism and has to be stopped. It is only for the expert tackling it that these things matter.
12/14/08

KP

Ivs

sorry for replying late we as an indian never equate with America but we have jointly fought against war on terror when 9/11 happens .If now with india why can't he now.Is it a dual policy why can't america consider Pakistan as a terriorist State as he knows what ever the funds he is sending to pakistan doesn't have done anything it is just waist and everyday there is a flood of terriorist creaping up.Isn't it terriosim the american econemy has badly effected and lots of peoples has lost their job.Why you are waisting money in return of nothing.

his is one of my point.

Kp

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