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INDOCTRINATION..or what the hell?
Posted by HollytheHousewife • 9/06/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: the hell is goin on here
I just looked in my girls folders from fri. And their is a permission slip asking is it ok for our nations children to be adressed directly by the prez?
What happened to prime time when the whole family watched,then explained...
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Both Reagan and Bush41 addressed the nation's schoolchildren. There was just never the perceived need to send out permission slips.
what the hell, indeed
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They didn't go about it this way....why?
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IDK. a different time perhaps... a different political culture... a different amount of melanin in the president's skin...
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Hold up a minute gotta go climb a tree,brb
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Come on travelosity, u know that's not the reason. I'll b bak in a few hunny dew...
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he is the damn president...he should be able to address whomever whenever he wants
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Um..scuse me what?... I don't thinkk so the hell didi ur patriotism go? Land of the free....
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where did MY patriotism go? This man is the President of the United States. His is OUR leader!
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Well, that just it, isn't it? In a land of the free, the leader of the country should be free to address anyone. I hope you're not suggesting that it's patriotic to refuse to listen to your president? -
I thought we were "fighting a War on Terror and everyone needs to get behind their president" o_0
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No that's not it at all. Oh my lord I wish y'all could see where I'm coming from....
It should be a family event,it shouldn't be presented in a way with permission slips.
Land of the free
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Well, what do you think about this then? What do you think it's all about with the permission slips and the pres speaking directly to the kids?
From what I read in the news, he's just going to talk to the kids about why it's important to stay in school and get a good education. -
home of the BRAVE, huh?
people seem awful garshdarned scared to me...
perhaps you are right. It should be the same regardless of politics though. Bush shouldn't have addressed schoolchildren about drugs, and Reagan shouldn't have indoctrinated them about... gun control?
www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/who-is-indoctrinating-who#commen...
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I don't like the permission slip thing either
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Hellerrrrr... u still don't feel me. Permission slips! It is the way all of this is being presentented
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you are right...I don't think I am getting you
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Exacxtly! Permission slips,pollitical correctness,affirmitive action..."land of the free"..I don't think so
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so... you think that they shouldn't be asking permission?
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affirmative action...?
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yeah...
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No I don't. I also think EVERYTHING is a beauacracy and policy. Ok what happened to a new kid moves to town he/she goes to school. It doesn't have to be all paperwork and blah,blah,blah,... this isn't what the usa is about. Don't even get me started on big brother...
This isn't what the AMERICAN DREAM is about,period end of story...-
Well, none of us (well most of us) don't want the government breathing down our necks. That is why some of us were very much against most of the so-called PATRIOT Act. On the other hand, the government CAN act as an important support mechanism... like disaster relief, with helping homeowners, etc. It seems to me that the important thing is that it acts on the behalf of people.
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But here's the thing. It never acts on behalf of the people. It is always a personal intrest group that will gain from policy,beauacracy. There is no such thing as everyone being happy. You will always have to step on someone's toes to make someone else satisfied...
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that is because interest groups organize, and the common people do not... even as far as uniting with regard to common sense reform. They need to come together and say "This is what we expect. You don't play by our rules, you don't keep your job"
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I need some clarification: exactly who is asking permission, here?
Is the school asking permission to allow your children to view the President's speech? Or is the President asking permission to speak to your children?
The answer is significant...if it is the school, then someone in that school thinks some parents in your area will object to their children listening to the President speak or hearing what he has to say. Your issue, then, should be with the school, not the government.
As far as it being a family thing, I suppose the hour at which the speech is broadcast may have some bearing on it. If the speech is targeted at a specific group of people...school children, for example...then it makes best sense to broadcast it at a time when that audience is most likely to be reached---when they are awake and in one place, like in school, instead of at home doing their homework, playing outside, or sleeping.
I doubt this is a surreptitious sort of thing designed to be hidden from the parents. In fact, I'll bet that you can record the speech and replay it in a family environment where you can discuss it with your kids. And if you prefer to do it that way, you can decline to give permission for them to see it in school and do it your way when they get home...it will even give you the opportunity to preview the speech so you will know when to fast forward through the stuff you may not want them to hear.
But I am guessing that Obama is not asking permission to speak to your kids...I am guessing that somebody in that school fears some parents will get upset about their children being "forced" to listen to a president of the wrong colour/race/political persuasion and the school wants to avoid "mad mamma" syndrome on the morning after. -
That's disgusting. Look, I'm not a particularly big fan of Barack Obama, it's my personal opinion that he's a third-world kleptocrat, but he is our president, and that means he has a right to address your children, and, for that matter, you. If I had children, he'd have the right to address them, and if he came to Georgia Tech to address the student body, I would attend. I'm sorry. We can't be standing up our president and weakening our nation before the entire US and the entire world just because we don't like him. Speaking the truth about him is okay, even if it's ugly, but he asks you to do something, you do it. We need to respect the office, even if he doesn't respect us back, because when we disrespect his office, WE INSULT OURSELVES. -
No its all the schools. It's been all over the news. This is what I'm saying,with words like socialism,marxism,dare I say communism... the way things are done in this country aren't being done with "freedom" and "liberty" in mind.
Everything is all beaurocratic,that's how come not much has been done with the gulf since Katrina.
I'm saying BIG GOVERNMENT leads to BIGGER PROBLEMS.
The way this is being presented with the schools has parents thinking...oh my lord the president is gonna be saying something we don't like.
I just think everything in every aspect of the govt,is toooooo complicated when it doesn't have to be that way at all.-
Sure Holly, but we have a responsibility as Americans to keep some comportment and dignity before the world, and humiliating our president is not going to do that.
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Y'all are soooooooo missing my point. I'm saying the prez can adress the kids,but the way its being presented had people all in an uproar. Parents calling the school saying,what is this man fixing to teach our kids.
There shoulda never been permission slips sent home. If the president wanted to go about it that way,he shoulda just done an address the nation at 7 like always...everthing is soooooo pc....so complicated when it just doesn't have to be that way.
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It was like an act of congress to get kendall registered for school this year,and jayleigh last year. If you even drive up to the school with a tn liscense plate you get a 100$ ticket. Things have been taken WAY WAY WAY out of hand. I'm not saying it should be like little house on the prarie,but government is ruling every aspect of our lives,and I think its rediculous
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"government is ruling every aspect of our lives,and I think its rediculous"
Holly, this is not new. This has been going on all of MY life and I am 62 years old.
In the 1970s I had a disagreement with my city over how many dogs I could have. I had a really big back yard and I had 3 dogs. A city employee broke through TWO padlocked gates and stole one of my dogs! Then they left the gates open and the other two ran off, and were picked up by the pound. They had their tags and collars on, so the pound called me to tell me they had them.
These were valuable AKC registered breeding stock. I had to pay almost $100 to get the dogs back from the pound (this was in the 1970s...$100 was a lot more money then than it is today) and I had to sell my third dog (they let me have him back on the condition that I would sell him within 90 days).
This was the 1970s, Holly...the city could could rule how many pets I had on my property and their rule was TWO animals, no matter how big your property is.
Back in the 50s, when I was a child, local governments could prevent black children from riding the same school bus or attending the same school as white children...I can give you examples from my father's and even my grandparent's time of the same kinds of things.
Freedom, when you live in a country of laws, is a limited thing. If you want your freedom to be unlimited by a government, then you are advocating anarchy, which has its own set of problems.
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This news article might explain it:
www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/us/04school.html?_r=1
It seems that some narrow-minded parents (mainly in my state of Texas) are afraid that the president might express free speech on subjects that they don't quite understand.
The White House has said the speech will emphasize the importance of education and hard work in school, both to the individual and to the nation. The message is not partisan, nor compulsory, officials said. Despite this, one genius from Texas said, “I don’t want our schools turned over to some socialist movement.”
Texas can be weird. Apparently to them, only socialists would ever dream of getting a good education. -
Tehehe,so why all the hoopla? Makes no sense...why permission slips? You know that's gonna get people's panties in a wad.
It kinda pisses me off,bc you are giving the inclination that he's gonna say something your kid doesn't need to hear.
It is what the hell? Its STUPID,-
Have you ever been here in Texas? "Work hard in school" is something a lot of parents here wouldn't want their children hearing. If the kids get educated, they might develop opinions that differ from those of the parents.
And that'd be un-Texan
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Ruh ro...I've been to texas a few times. Just another state. Like I said its all beauracracy,policy,and whatever cy endings there are. The majority of americans just wanna be,without being told who,what,or how to BE that way.
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