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Is blogcatalog becoming a Christian forum?
Posted by Hels • 8/31/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: blogcatalog, religion
The separation of Church and State means that government should not get involved in religious issues, either positively or negatively. But for me it also means that religion is a totally private affair, between the person, his/her spouse and children, and their priest. (I love religion, by the way).
Be as religious as you care to be, but in blogcatalog don't advertise and don't evangelise. I opened up blogcatalog discussions this morning and found these current and active topics (on page 3). Some are funny, but others are deadly serious:
Do you believe science or god?
Why is GOD such a hotly contested topic?
Evolution's Missing Link, God and Leprechauns…
2 minutes late for my exam... damn you, god!
Is God a Mute??
What is God's role in marriage?
Is it right for Christian Conservatives to be…
Live Christian Sermon Every Sunday at 8:30 AM…
Do You Think It's Wrong For A Christian To Mo…
Was America Founded as a "Christian Nation"
I am a Certified Christian Blogger
Is the USA a Christian nation? etc etc
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"But for me it also means that religion is a totally private affair, between the person, his/her spouse and children, and their priest."
For YOU? In your own personal Constitution, do you mean?-
Good point. Constitutions a legal and procedural document, not a personal philosophy. You can attach a personal philosophy to it, but in and of itself it says no such thing. (I love freedom, by the way.)
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It was a spammer. He/she resuscitated very old discussions about religion just to drop his/her link.-
Exactly! A spammer went wild and resurrected enough threads to fill the whole front page of the forum, just so he could drop a link into them requesting link exchanges.
Consider this behavior. Consider the increase in shoutbox spamming behavior we experience. Consider the increase in click fraud invitations in groups, and into forum threads. Then consider that some new arrivals also want to be able to post signature links into every comment they post into forum threads. -
Ahh you are quite right Deray and timethief. A spammer can ruin blogcatalog and I didn't even notice
But that raises an important topic, canvassed in The Removal of Religious Topics from BlogCatalog Discussions, Posted by NINE, 26/2/08. I thought that was a reasoned and reasonable handling of the topic, suggesting that people use the specialist Group Forum rather than the open blogcatalog for religious advertising and evangelising. No censorship... just Nine's suggestion. -
I recall the thread you are referring to. For a brief period of time religious threads were not allowed to be posted to the forum due to the animosity that arose.
In fact there are 14 Christian groups at BC.
www.blogcatalog.com/groups/tag/Christian
There is also a Religious discussion and debate group
www.blogcatalog.com/group/religious-debate-and-discussions
Religious threads can be posted to the forum but thankfully every new missionary, pastor, etc. is no longer announcing their arrival and evangelizing on the forum, rather than in their blogs. -
a good daily dose of potty humor tends to keep them under control... -
Now that's different, and a serious matter. I trust this spammer has been properly dispatched?
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The next christian cycle doesn't start for another 3 weeks or so -
There is freedom of speech in BC though. I wouldn't want prohibitions on the type of topics one can discuss. I simply ignore the ones I don't care about.
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The freedom to ignore is a wonderful thing.
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Exactly. I mean, you see the topic title on the front page before you click on it. That's even better then real life!
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let me tell you something. You can start all the atheist,agnostic,scientology,voodoo,etc... threads that you want. I wouldn't say a word about them. It is your right. It is also your right not to come onto the christian threads. No one is coming to your profile page and holding a gun to your head saying "go to my christian thread or else"
If us crazy christians wanna talk about our savior we can. Period end of story. -
I don't believe in God, Christ or Ala, they are all B.S. but people have the liberty to choose their religion! And speak about their convictions!-
You could of left it at "I do not believe" you did not have to say they where "BS" It just is a little rude to people that truly believe in all these things! -
Thank u very much anthony!
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"rude" in the same way it is rude when believers say "we will pray for you".. and "your sins will be forgiven"??
I think it is more rude to call some innocent fellow a sinner. -
I respect them, Did you know my country 80% is catholic??? Did in you know D.Afonso Henriques was a cruzade??? Did you know Portugal as one of longest history related with church, and Rome?? You didn't right?
Honestly, the bible has a lot of lies! so many! Christ existed! that I know it's real! But honestly, should we base our decisions on religion?like in the M.A?? Catholics(Rome) have commited the worst sins of all! they kill, tortured, mugged people! Pope is rich as hell! Christ wouldn't wanted that!
Frankly, who belives in a religion that lies?
Only people who don't think! ! So, what they say it's B.S! I study history, you should too! -
Saying there religion is "BS" is not respect!
"don't believe in God, Christ or Ala, they are all B.S" Is what you said. How is this respect? -
that's my opinion, everyone as one, and we're free men's and women's! The damm church dominated for a long time, it's time to stop, well, know they don't have some much power now!
Still, they don't respect us! They even made a agreement with Hitler in WWII for not being attacked by him or its soldiers! So the hell with them! -
well dsrhirsha,I think what you just did is rude. How is calling out someone for what they belive in polite? Um, it's NOTT. I don't believe anyone came to you and said comment on the "believer"thread.
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I don't like Catholic church or any church at all, those who belive, that's with them, i got nothing to say about it, I don't and I never believe in lies, sorry
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anthony,you are entitled to your opinion,but what if my opinion of you was, you're some college kid who has been indoctrinated by the left. You have a simple mind and it is being molded by some professor who has no clue what he's talking about.
Now you wouldn't be offended by that,right? It's just an opinion. -
Is there a difference in putting down a religion or putting down a person? -
NO there isn't pet. I really wasn't putting him down either. I don't believe that is my opinion either. I was trying to make a point....
ya,feel me? -
I know! I was just asking I usually just avoid the religion threads like the Plague .. ditto with the political forums
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Holly said: well dsrhirsha, ... I don't believe anyone came to you and said comment on the "believer"thread.
A "believer" thread? Who knew?
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"But for me it also means that religion is a totally private affair, between the person, his/her spouse and children, and their priest. (I love religion, by the way)."
No, because as long as you are not coercing people (ie Government) in to siding with your religion you are not fulfilling that particular role in church and state. Further, with culture and relationships as shallow as they are do you really want to eliminate another deep and important conversation from the allowables? -
HollytheHousewife, i don't have classes, i'm very difficult to be influenced, my father when i was born gave me the liberty to choose later what would be my religion," professor who has no clue what he's talking about. " you're wrong professors or teachers are mostly catholic or Christian, 80% believes in religion!
I'm not saying its a bad thing! We should trust everthing they say! and yes as we know they have made some kinda of agreement with Mussolini and Hitler. My mind it's extremely complex, not easy to fool me!-
I have no problem with you not liking religion, you have a right to a opinion. I just think saying someones religion is "bullshit" is very wrong.
When someone insults my religion, it's generally coming from ignorance of what my religion really is.
I don't get offended, but I do feel compelled to correct them.
You are saying that my religion is BS because of the actions of other people? That is like saying the entire NYPD police force is BS because of a few dirty cops!
As a Christian I try as hard as I can to be loving, kind, and respectful to everyone I meet!
True Christianity is based on love! In history powerful people saw the influence that religion has on other people, and they used this power... I hate being judged by the doings of other people.
According to the Biblical view moral actions can only be done by moral people, else those doing them will only be hypocrites and therefore not moral at all. Alternatively they will become proud of their moral actions and then also cease to be moral. Thus, the heart must be changed from the inside-out through repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ who will give them a new heart, so that they will have right desires that are necessary for a person to produce moral actions free from self-seeking and self glorification and hypocrisy.
Often those who talk most about morals are the most insensitive to others and the most aggressive in pushing tolerance while themselves being insensitive and proclaiming open-mindedness while themselves refusing to listen to everything except their own narrow view.
Morality in the Christian sense also most certainly includes sacrifice for others. "Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." This demonstrates that our moral actions are not out to glorify ourselves, but rather to glorify God, and help others. Thus the more self-sacrificing we are, the more moral we are.
Christian morality 'from the inside out' provides a source of power, the Holy Spirit, to enable the person to perform truly moral acts which are not just externally good but rightly motivated, as well as convict/lead a believer who strays, to repentance.. Thus, all the moral actions one may wish to list, many mentioned above, will be done by the believer who is motivated by God's Love for others.
If you chose to think religion is not for you then that is your choice and yours alone, no true Christian should ever shove what they believe down your throat. I have no problem with you saying you dislike religion, I just would like you not to insult religion altogether... For some, religion is a huge part of life. When you call what they believe in bullshit it can really hurt there feelings. -
One need not be Christian...one need not have any religion or belief in the supernatural...to be moral.
Ethics and morals and values may be prescribed and endorsed by religions (and note that different religions...even different strains of Christianity...do not ascribe to the same set of morals, values and ethics), but one can have ethics, morals, and values outside of religion as well.
You have only to look at America's televangelists to see how religion does not equal morals. And if this is how high-profile religious leaders behave...people who have a LOT to lose if they get caught...imagine what the anonymous are getting up to?
My biggest problem with people who call themselves Christians is that very, very few of them really are. They do not follow the teachings of Christ, they cherry pick Scripture to support their viewpoint and "interpret"...or just ignore...any passages that don't. The vast majority of Christians are absolutely ignorant of how their holy book came to be and get really indignant if someone has the temerity to tell them the truth. They would rather believe...and live by...a falsehood they like than a truth they don't.
I agree that real Christianity is based on love...but try to get that message across to people like Fred Phelps or the religious picketers outside a prison on execution day carrying placards that say "Send him to the Devil" and other loving Christian messages. Do they even know about Christ on the cross and the thief beside him?
I used to be a Christian, but no more. Even if I still believed in the Christian god, I would not want to be associated with what the word has come to represent.
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and like my father did to me, I will do the same with my kids, i will give them the liberty too choose!
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anthony,look above..... my mind it ain't so simple either baby doll.
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i never sad your mind was...
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I never said you said it was. Oh my lord,can't we all just get along???
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LOOL "You have a simple mind and it is being molded by some professor who has no clue what he's talking about. " LOOL
are you sure that you never said thaT? -
I did say that. I didn't say u said I had a simple mind....
Hey this reminds me of a song....
Well mama told me,when I was younggggg,sit beside me my only soooooon..... "shinedown version",haha -
LOL?
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and by the way US didn't existed when religion was created... Portugal(Iberia in Rome) already was Catholic, so that's why 80% of the population is a beliver
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lol???? what's the ? for?
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I would never discriminate those who believe, not like catholics do with muslim people...
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we sooooo coulda gone without that comment to,but hey that's ur opinion
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actually is your Army Opinion, and your people opinion, they consider muslim as threat! I have muslim friends, and Catholic, and chritians friends, they have choosen to belive in a certain type of religion, no matter i like or not, it's their choose not mine.
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And that's my final comment, I will not be argue this anymore, anyone is free to choose!
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you are absoulutely RIGHT
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finally we get to the point!
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WOOOOO HOOOOO
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that's why we have fun with americans ... LOOOL (Europe makes it)
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I honestly don't like these type of topics, normaly they take to huge argues! These and political issues, of course I woudn't dare speaking about your political coutry as you don't speak about my country political issues
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yea,no let's not dare speak about those kind of things,and just be friends..... sound good?
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yeah yeah ... xD LOOL I don't know you from anywhere but ok
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yea,so that don't matter. It's so much easier to be friends than just be at each other's throats over our own convictions. Don't ya think?
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yeah LOL Althought like Aristotle sad "o ser humano é por natureza um animal político" , "the human being is by nature a political animal",
LOOL
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yea,that makes sense...
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LOL what? it' was 2000 years ago don't blame him xD LOOL
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the human being by nature is a political animal
that makes sense-
we are, it's absoluty true! You are a beliver right? so you don't believe in Darwin theory right?
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right,but I do belive we can evolve,I don't believe we came from nothing. I believe GOD created us and science.
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Actually you aren't making any sense, sorry, by one way science don't believe in God, by other religion don't believe in science xD
Well, if he created us, why some many others planets and galaxies? And why it's still expanding? LOOL
I'm not a beliver, but frankly it's kinda strange imaging billions years ago there was only hydrogen and buum! LOL
We sure have evolved, from simple buildings into skyscrapers! LOL
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well,I think I make perfect sense,but that is my opininon. I'm sorry you don't see it my way,but that's ok to. Maybe when you get to heaven you will see.
Now I guess I'm gonna have to hit the hay,because 5:30 comes early... I will be talking to you soon though,maybe...
HOLLA,Holly-
bye xD LOL see you later!
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nighty night,sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite
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I'm new in these forums, so I'm just starting to get an impression of what people talk about here. So far, it looks like half or more of the threads are on questions about blogging and about using blogcatalog, but the rest seem to range over a wide territory from the writing life to various kinds of personal habits and interests.
On first impression the religious and religio-political questions seemed to be just part of that mix. Of course, as a noobie, I completely respect the assessment of old-timers around here that some of the religious material came from spammers, but there seem to be a fair number of blogs out there that make reference to religious or spirituality, so maybe some of it is just the expression of one of the natural interests held within our community.
As I have posted in my blog, my religion is Garage Saling, so I don't have a dog (or god) in this fight. But asking a religious question doesn't necessarily amount to evangelism; in fact, the questioner could be an atheist or agnostic for all I know. -
There's this guy called Jesus, he loves bloggers. -
uh oh!! -
It's ironic, but if you cannot make Christian comments here, then neither should you be able to make comments regarding astrology, Bhuddism, atheism, all of which I have seen on blogcatalog. I personally, as a Christian, believe in being open about where I stand.-
No, not ironic, just long and invasive. I have forgotten how many blogcatalog discussion topic in a row there were that day (31/8/09) that asked religious questions - perhaps 15. A number of Jews, Muslims and atheists feared that the blogcatalog was being taken over and used as a Christian forum (until we were all told that it was a spammer at work).
Our constitution guarantees the separation of church and state, and our religious privacy. Every question on the census is compulsory EXCEPT the question on religion - people may omit that section of the census without consequences.
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