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Its a very simple task to find If God is real,, ASK HIM. I struggled with the same question for years. Then a very wise pastor told me, He's not much of a God if He can't reveal himself.
If Your serious, humble yourself before a Holy God and simply ask him to reveal himself to you. If you will do this you have his promise to do that.
I am so very Blessed because i did this now years ago. All He askes is that you ask Him . Gods very best AL

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11/17/08

Epicharis

Sounds psychosomatic to me...if you really want a god to 'reveal himself' you'll imagine it. Sorry, it sounds harsh, but it's true. People have manifested all sorts of things out of their own minds...

11/17/08

Thats all very true. all the more reason to look for the truth. I'm told in Danial that the graves will open and all will see God. Some to be lifted up, others to be rejected. So you'll have a chance for dialog. having said that, This might be important enough to check into. And , if you feel this is somthing you don't want to seek It just might be a real ""hot topic"" for you someday. God says He loves you enough to let you make your own decisions. I think its interesting that God would say EVERY knee shall bow on that day. I respect you and thank you for your comments. And i would urge you to give this some study. In Jesus Name Al ( ssnuffy )

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11/17/08

Epicharis

ouch...God loves me so much he'll let me choose whether or not to believe in him...but he won't provide any evidence, rather, he'll provide evidence to the contrary...and allow several other religions to exist at the same time without indicating which one is the right one...but if I choose wrong I got to hell?! That's not love...that's irresponsible parenting!

I have given the subject more than a little study. I'm a history student and have spent many years studying early Christianity along with other societies and mythologies, and the fact is that the evidence points to Christianity just being the local rehashing of the Indo-European mythos. Every aspect of Christian theology is borrowed from somewhere else!

I know I won't convince you, it's always impossible to convince religious people that their beliefs are suspect, but I suppose it's a trade off...you tell me I'm going to hell, I tell you your religion is farcical...

11/18/08

bradhart

back to the real question what is god...

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11/18/08

Wich ONE , your's ,mine, Read G.Gurdjieff's Beelzebuub's tales to his grandson and your vision on the world we live in will be dramaticaly changed.
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11/18/08

arilestariono

God Exist

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11/18/08

siralmo

are you real or something we just made up??

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11/19/08

SiuilARuin. Many have gone before you. Most finding that if they truely gave equal time to study all doubt would be erased.
I shared real experience with you. And I'll confidently leave it there. God is real, And He is available simply by prepareing your heart and asking. thats pretty simple. And completely your choice, But your arrogance will rob you of the chance to meet the King og Kings,,, Gods best

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11/19/08

Epicharis

I'm the arrogant one? You're the one convinced you know better than almost every scientist on the planet...in fact, you think you know better than at least 4 billion other people...maybe I'm not arrogant ENOUGH to meet god...is that what you meant?

11/19/08

Not at all. and I apolagize if your offended by my comments. you seem to believe you have all the answers. I simply ment to suggest you take another look . In my search I found my answers and want nothing more than you to find the truth

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11/19/08

Epicharis

I don't believe I have the answers to everything, that's the point. Science doesn't claim to know everything, but what we do know contradicts the theory of a deity. It's you that claims to have all the answers, all the answers to all questions being 'god did it'.

I understand that your religion makes you happy and gives you comfort and allows you to believe that you are immortal, but it detracts from the beauty of reality because it requires that you shut yourself off from knowledge. Lots of people want Santa and Fairies and Magic to be real, doesn't mean that they are.

You presumably don't believe in Thor? or Amun? or Krishna? or Cernunnos? or Zeus? Why is your god any more likely than any of those?

11/19/08

rowen

How is the existence of God Objectable?

1.We exist
2.The Universe Exists
3. The Universe is caused OR uncaused to infinity

The latter is impossible

Therefore God exists

Anyway, as Abraham Lincoln said, how can you look up to the heavens and not believe in God?

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11/19/08

Epicharis

That is stupid in too many ways for me to go into.

11/19/08

lotusb

I think that when you pose a question regarding what one belives, there is no wrong or right answer. I belive in God because I've seen my entire life turn around through prayer and effort. I've had experiances too personal to post that have happened before my eyes as proof that someone, and in my opinion, God, wants me here for a reason. I also CHOOSE to belive in God. I don't think that my beleif should or can be challenged by others opinions. I respect those who are religious, spiritual and athiest alike.

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11/19/08

diabeteschat

I believe completely and whole heartedly that God exists. If you ever have the privilege to give birth or watch your children being born, you will have to agree. This miracle would not be possible if God didnt exist.

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11/19/08

voodooKobra

[This miracle would not be possible if God didnt exist.]
It's not a miracle, it's a natural phenomenon.

11/19/08

voodooKobra

God as defined by every organized religion is just an idea meant to control the masses. God as a metaphor for the unknown? Permissible.

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11/19/08

chacham100

I strongly believe God is for real..otherwise then what??

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11/19/08

cranelegs

this human thing about "why" and "existence" got me in nothing but trouble. i wanted to exist before i was born. i wanted to exist after i died. i wanted to exist in between. then i started in on why i existed? i must of had a purpose! oh, i had to have some purpose. can't exist without purpose. that led to the "who gave me the purpose" questions. hmmm ... must have been god because that's what i was told, besides i couldn't think of any human capable of giving me purpose. i mean i really looked around for some one and the smartest person i knew was jimmy bumpus up the way, and i knew he didn't because i asked him and he said no and that's good enough for me. so it must've been god.

and then came the night sky question. i'd wonder who put that there? and why? so i went to jimmy, and jimmy told me it was god put that there so we'd have something to look at and get all wonderous about. and that was good enough for me.

so i guess when i used to ask questions about the sky, and existence, and purpose, and why, and stuff, god seemed as good an answer as any. and for a long time better than most.

that was until i got old enough to read newspapers and learned about murder, and hate, and war, and the vile things humans can do in the name of existence and purpose and god.

so i stopped asking those questions a while ago because i realized they seemed made up to begin with, and the answers were easy, making any thinking on my part come to a halt. that was of course until i started reading the news and realized there was a lot to fix right now and that the answer that god has a purpose for everything seemed ... well ... seemed empty of any thought really.

and i have to tell ya, things couldn't be more clear.

i'm just tryin to be a good human with a little humor to boot, which is hard enough when i've got old rupert motton's chickens comin' into my garden each and every day.

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11/19/08

klaraau01

Both, actually...

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11/20/08

For those who have danced with death, we believe in God.

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11/20/08

timethief

@horsepucky
For those who have danced with death, we believe in God.

OOPs! Sorry but you don't speak for me. So I say hosre apples to that "we" up there. I have "danced with death" more than once, and I do NOT believe in the Judeo/Christian construct of god.

IMO the myth that a non-existent big guy in the sky created all there is including mankind declared them very good, and later condemned all mankind to the hell fires of damnation (original sin), just so he could appear on earth as his own son born of a (cough) virgin (possibly impregnated by another non-existent supernatural being called an angel) to fulfill the role of savior, and rescue a select few who were chosen before the foundations of time, from the same hell fires of damnation at end times, if and only if they believe in him, is beyond ridiculous. IMO it's delusional.

What I experience is that when I meditate and all the things associated with my "self" like greed, anger, hate, etc. dissolve is that there really is no self; there is no distinct being that is separate from the universal stream of pure consciousness -- quiet joy, peace, love ie. god.

Neither male nor female, neither good nor bad, neither light nor darkness but containing all there is and situate everywhere: the universal stream of pure life giving consciousness flowing through all is god. Hence, god is found in everyone and in everything; god just keeps on is-ing.

11/20/08

timethief

For Real Argument: What have you experienced that makes you know? Made Up Argument: Why do you feel that way?

FWIW there are over 60 pages of posts on this subject in the forum searchbox. Here's the link www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/search.php?q=God+exist
If you truly want to know what I think then use the excellent BC search facilities and find out.

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Wow! So how do you really feel about this? (that was a joke, don't flip out) I read your link

11/20/08

I think the key word you have used here is Experience. An experience IS. You can have one experience one afternoon and spend the rest of your life questioning it.

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11/20/08

voodooKobra

An experience IS... unverifiable.
11/20/08

timethief

@voodookobra
I agree that my personal meditation experience cannot be verified and I'm okay with that. I don't need to have my experience either verified or validated.

I have observed that it's only Christians that keep doing this repetitive posting on the forum here. hence I assume they are not convinced that what they experience is a valid experience of "god".

11/20/08

Hello VK Is it? Why?

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11/20/08

voodooKobra

An experience is inherently personal. It can't be verified.

11/20/08

To TT: I have to admit, I'm getting sick of God threads, too...

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

I was looking more for experiences like VK shared. No white light there I take.
11/20/08

timethief

I have been very well educated in Christian theology (Bible College graduate) and I have utterly rejected the doctrine, dogma and all the accouterments of all organized and institutionalized religion.

I have grown tired of what I consider to be the bad attitudes of some Christians, who use this forum as a means to stir up controversy and then pretend that they were just kidding around. These attitudes which I consider to be "bad" are typically manifest by those who are new to their faith, or weak in their faith, or who imagine they have some kind of calling that compels them argue about their "god" with unbelieving strangers, despite the fact that no empirical evidence of the existence of such a supernatural being has been presented and has withstood any scientific testing.

The truth is that no goodwill ambassador walks into a room full of strangers are starts quizzing them about their religious beliefs.

Quiet confidence is unshakable faith in whatever your faith or belief system is and no urgent need to share it.
Discernment is knowing when and where to share what you believe with others and when and where not to.
Poor judgment is continually posting religious topics to this forum, knowing full well that they are not likely to result in community building and goodwill.
Restraint is the ability to choose not to indulge oneself by posting topics that are likely to create ill will.
11/20/08

voodooKobra

[I was looking more for experiences like VK shared.]
What experience did I share?

11/20/08

To VK: There you go! Not hard. By the way, you don't fool me. I like you no matter how acidic you try to get with me. Why? Because you have original thought and eventually, it will take you where you want to go.

I agree with you that an experience is a personal thing. But why would that make it unverifiable? By the way, I am not a follower of christ, just FYI. And I don't try to mess with people's minds, either. I'm just a dude from NY living in Australia and I've done all the work myself - no shake n' bakes.

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11/20/08

voodooKobra

There's just so much information, and our puny brains can't be expected to process it all.

So if we experience something, talking about the experience only gives the bits and pieces of what you were consciously observing that is also personally important to you. That means it proves nothing to anyone else.

And I'm not trying to be "acidic;" just pedantic.

11/20/08

You are educated but your compass is off there lady. I read your profile and you've been reading blogs for over 5 years. Perhaps you should take a break and relax. I come from the midwest and I'm in agreement that "bible bashers" are a pain in the ass. My ass specifically because I grew up getting that message pounded in my head three times a week. You know the kind...if I don't repent my parents will be gone. The marvelous "left behind" crap if you've seen it. I do get the tone of your message because I agree with it but don't presume you know me. I haven't been blogging as long as you and I was curious about hearing some experiences.

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11/20/08

If you do not believe in God, why capitalize His name?

For real argument. *wink*

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11/20/08

Epicharis

People capitalise 'God' because it indicates that you are referring to the Abrahamic god as opposed to Zeus, or Odin etc.

It isn't reverential, it's for clarity.

11/20/08

visitseoul

We don't know anything. I have a thought that God is the culture.

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11/20/08

Ok, I'm ready to have PUKE hurled at me:

WHAT IF.... you were God and just didn't know it yet?

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11/20/08

Epicharis

I'm not going to throw puke at you...I'm going to hit you with my shoe.
11/20/08

voodooKobra

Oh believe me, I would know.

*Damn, I wish that person would blow up.* *KZAT!* *Whoa...*
11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Didn't you just post you're sick of these god threads? What's wrong with you man? If timethief would have just left it alone this thread would have died. I still didn't get those "experiences" I was looking for in the first place. Did anybody almost die (besides timethief)...Did you see a freakin light or what?

11/20/08

I giggled.

What if God was one of us. Sing with me.

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11/20/08

God is nature and the beauty found in all of us. It is the power of unconditional love. My husband just died of cancer and I was privileged to have been able to care for him at home. He died in my arms, in the bed we shared for 16 years. One week before he died he described a place where he was going. He said it was the most beautiful place he had ever seen. The place he saw is who he was and always will be. It was where he went and is. Another dimension we cannot even imagine. It was a beautiful, intimate experience for both of us. I call it God. Peace.

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

That's what I was looking for HP. I'm so sorry for your loss.
11/20/08

Epicharis

Now that's not fair...pulling the "my relative just died" card makes us look like arseholes for saying there's no god!

But my dad died 5 years ago and while I'd love to see him again I'm not going to play make-believe just to keep the hope alive. The only place he lives is in my memory and those of the other people that knew him. Other than that he is scattered among the trees and animals etc. that absorbed his atoms. Losing loved ones doesn't mean there is a god or an afterlife, it just means you want it to be so.

That said, I am very sorry for your loss.
11/20/08

timethief

@horsepucky
I'm so happy you had the opportunity to share this experience with your beloved.
Love & peace
11/21/08

asueallen

siuilaruin It is also not fair that just because you have zero faith in anything other than yourself that means there simply is no God. HorsePucky shared the deep experience that built their faith of what they now know to be real. You had a similar experience and do not find HorsePucky's reality to be your own.

HorsePucky's belief in God no more "just means you want it to be so" than you not believing means you do NOT want it to be so. If you believe HorsePucky's or anyone's desire to believe in a God is why they have a God, are you ready to say you do NOT believe because you do NOT WANT God to exist? It truly is that simply. The simplicity lies in that faith is much deeper than "wanting" to believe something.

I will not argue with you or anyone, but I in very calm and compassionate spirit hope that your anger and questions quieten into peaceful resolve. That does not mean that you ever have to believe in a God of any sort, but if you truly felt at peace with your beliefs and beliefs of others, you wouldn't be on here constantly yelling out and rebutting to convince others how delusional you quite obviously see them as and wish to prove they are.

In peace, love, and the things that give you each joy...
Ashley Sue

11/20/08

IglooKeeper

God's a cunt.

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11/20/08

timethief

Really? His true believers profess that "he" is a supernatural male being made in their image.

11/20/08

Do you know what will scare all of you even more?? I'm a THERAPIST hahaha

This is too much fun, I should go do something constructive. All I will say is that you need to be able to hold a lot of information to realise who you really are. You don't wanna blow your fuse - and no mine's not blown, I'm not writing to you from Willow Wood.

I don't expect everyone to agree or get what I'm talking about. An experience, after all is subjective ;-)

*... just a stranger on the bus, tryin' to make his way home...*

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Therapist? What do you charge?

....just a slob like one of us

11/20/08

Thanks ENO. I appreciate your condolence.

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11/20/08

Moving right along...

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Let's ask timethief back. I like her spirit

11/20/08

HorsePucky: I wasn't trying to make light of your experience...

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11/20/08

cranelegs

geez, all we are trying to do is figure this life out. and while i am as a convinced non-beleiver as i know, i respect those who may have landed elsewhere to cope with those things that need answers (and need them now). all i ask of myself (and others i suppose) is that i don't stop asking and questioning.

this conversation always seems so difficult.

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11/20/08

Epicharis

I'd be all for the 'live and let live' approach to beliefs if the belief in a deity and the religions that surround that belief didn't have such a negative effect on the lives of so many people. It causes much more damage that people realise, which is why blind faith should be questioned.

11/20/08

Sebastyne

One version is real, the rest of them are made up. And the argument follows; Which one is the real one?

(I don't really care to be honest.)

I just blogged about one version of them, and can't resist the urge to plug my blog, sorry; www.sebastyne.net/2008/11/god-has-a-narcissistic-personality-disorder

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11/20/08

There's no data either way. Damn, I wish I would have worded that different. Nobody knows...that's the point. This isn't an argument that can be fought. What I really want to know is what happens when I die? That's it. HorsePucky gave me the only useful bit of info on this crap thread. That's what I want to hear......experiences in that area. What happened.

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11/20/08

Epicharis

What happens when you die? You want to know what you experience? ...the answer is 'nothing'! Just like before you were born...It's pretty simple...but people don't want simple...and if the answer isn't what you want, why not make something up like everyone else?

11/20/08

Everything else is speculation and is just getting old. It also creates ill will as timethief said. Did anybody else get anything out of HorsePucky's story? Don't you want to know that kind of stuff?

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11/20/08

CrankyChick

BOTH

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash - Dude, if I got totally heart to heart with you: you, VK, TT and the rest would rip me to shreds. You don't really want to know what I think or what I've experienced - YOU want it for yourself. One day, I think you will have it... that knowing. Its not going to come from some crack-pot online - ('cos that's what I am to you) but that aside... it comes down to you. Why are you so worried about it anyway?

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Yeah, I hear you but if you want to email me one on one that's cool. My uncle died and I was there. Nothing happened. He didn't see anything..just twitched and he was gone. That doesn't mean crap. That's just not enough data to formulate an opinion. I don't want opinions. I want to hear what other people have experienced. Then, and only then, I'll come to my own conclusion and won't share it with any of you.
11/20/08

timethief

@spiritualbloggers
EnergyNoCrash - Dude, if I got totally heart to heart with you: you, VK, TT and the rest would rip me to shreds.

You are wrong. I do so want to hear what you think and experience so why not found a BC group and invite us to join it? www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/bc-groups-find-one-start-one

11/20/08

Alright, alright, yes, I believe in God, although I was bible thumped for 8 years in my abusive marriage to a Pastor. It took me a long time to want to read the bible again once I divorced.

I have so many miracles to share, that I'm writing a book about them. Here's one: I was with a man at 17 years old who had HIV for years before I knew him, but he never knew it. At 19 years old, we had a child together. When our daughter was 6 mos old, he got terribly sick, was hospitalized, and was told he was HIV positive.

To make a long story short, my daughter was tested and came out negative. I was tested for 2 years every 3 mos, and came out negative. We were planning our 2nd child at the time of his diagnosis, and God gave me a 2nd chance in life. Who else could it have been?

There aren't many females that can get away with having unprotected sex with a man with HIV and not get the disease. I could go on and on about my miracles, but it would takes days to read. God most certainly exists, and he looks after me daily.

Just a stranger on the bus.

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11/20/08

Epicharis

Some women are naturally immune to HIV. You can't have done much research. That's the direction HIV research is taking, trying to replicate the immunity. It's not a miracle, it's wonderfully good luck.

11/20/08

Darn, Spiritual beat me to it.

"If God had a face, what would it look like?"

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11/20/08

SiuilARuin, sorry, but I don't look at it that way. With all the miracles I had in my life, no way!

This was back in the 90's and he passed away in 2000. I have studied oh, so much! I'm on top of it all, and the research is constantly changing, as well as the meds.

Another government induced disease, yup.

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11/20/08

Epicharis

You don't believe in immunity? Because God loves African prostitutes? Pease explain!
11/20/08

timethief

@DanaE
So, given your experience, how do you feel about government funding for abstinence only faith based funding programs? Do you support them? Or do you support comprehensive sex education for teens, including education on STI's and HIV (Aids), as well ass, abstinence.

Currently, the American federal government champions the abstinence-only (faith based) programs, giving around $170 million to $190 million each year to states and community groups to teach kids to say no to sex. Federal law establishes a stringent eight-point definition of “abstinence-only education” that requires programs to teach that sexual activity outside of marriage is wrong and harmful—for people of any age. The law also prohibits programs from advocating contraceptive use or discussing contraceptive methods except to emphasize their failure rates.
Source: Dailard C, Abstinence promotion and teen family planning: the misguided drive for equal funding, The Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, 2002, 5(1):1–3; and Dailard C, Fueled by campaign promises, drive intensifies to boost abstinence-only education funds, The Guttmacher Report on Public Policy, 2000, 3(2):1–2 & 12.

Currently, 35 states mandate either sex education or education about HIV/AIDS and other STIs, but their laws tend to be very general. Policies specifying the content of sex education are typically set at the local level. Source: Guttmacher Institute, Sex and STD/HIV education, State Policies in Brief, November 2006, accessed Nov. 28, 2006.

Despite years of evaluation in this area, there is no evidence to date that abstinence-only education delays teen sexual activity. Moreover, recent research shows that abstinence-only strategies deters contraceptive use among sexually active teens, increasing their risk of unintended pregnancy and STIs, including HIV (AIDs).

Source: Kirby D, Emerging Answers: Research Findings on Programs to Reduce Teen Pregnancy, Washington, DC: National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, 2001; Bearman PS and Bruckner H, Promising the future: virginity pledges and first intercourse, American Journal of Sociology, 2001, 106(4):859–912; Bruckner H and Bearman PS, After the promise: the STI consequences of adolescent virginity pledges, Journal of Adolescent Health, 2005, 36(4):271–278.

11/20/08

Ok, gotta go people. If you'd like to send me some "experiences" one on one that would be cool. Timethief wasn't wrong. I am trying to figure this out. Just not like she thinks nor am I trying to convince anybody of anything.

webbbrad@yahoo.com

p.s. Ya'll people are freakin crazy

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11/20/08

timethief

@EnergyNoCash
Sheesh --- edit quickly and remove that email address. You posted it in a form that spam bots can and will crawl. This is the better way to elude the email address harvest bots when posting an email address webbbrad[at]yahoo[at]com

P.S. I'm not crazy - just spunky and eccentric.
11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Thank for the spam bot info TT. I didn't know that.... You got good spunk but it comes across angry. Don't be so absolute and use smaller words. You're making me feel stupid
11/20/08

timethief

@EnergyNoCash
Thanks and pleased to meet you. Now that the formalities are over, take note that this is the way educated Canucks speak and I will NOT bow to your requests to dumb down my language --- so there --- lol

P.S. I'm not angry. Becoming angry means giving your power away - fat chance!

11/20/08

OK since DanaE is sharing... but if I get slammed for this, I'm not responding and you can go ahead and play intellectual superior.

I had a dear friend from HS who died in a tragic car crash in 07. She was 30 years old and left behind a husband and two girls, 8 & 1. We had dated in HS and always stayed very close. When she died, it was like part of me died and I cried like a baby. We had this argument over something SO stupid before her death and never had the chance to resolve it.

Well, as I was hunkered down in my pain, crying like a SLOB, I suddenly felt arms around me. I can't tell you HOW I knew it was her, but it was, without a doubt. Light that was the same shade of blue of her eyes totally enveloped me, and I could feel immense love and compassion pouring from her. I told her how sorry I was about our unresolved issues, and what a jerk I was. I could just feel that she forgave me... and that love was truly all that mattered.

I don't care if this experience can be verified or not. It was real. But I don't think it has the same significance unless you experience something like it yourself.

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11/20/08

EnergyNoCrash

Take it easy timethief. Run SB run
11/20/08

DanaE

Spiritual, that gave me goosebumps from head to toe. I think there's hair on my feet that I need to shave. *blush*

It could have been her, and it could have been God. Either way, somehow you brought that spirit near, and felt the love, and that's all that matters. You ARE forgiven.

I want to hug you now. ♥ Dana
2/05/09

MsBrooke

Wow that is truly amazing.. My Father recently passed away and I get those same feelings. Like he is with me at all times, it makes me feel unreal. That is proof, it doesn't matter what other people say. Its your faith that matters most.

11/20/08

timethief

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11/20/08

Of course I believe in immunity. I just don't think it was my case.

Now, God loves African prostitutes, and you want ME to explain? After you, my dear.

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11/20/08

Epicharis

I don't understand how you can just decide that because it's you involved it can't be the medical explanation that applies to the fact that African prostitutes are not getting infected by their clients. Or is it God saving all of them too? how does that work?

11/20/08

You folks need to get your updates here: www.cdc.gov/hiv/ Not from 2005 and 2006.

You know, SiuilARuin, not too long ago, I read that the number one killer of African women in New York was from Aids. What's your opinion on that?

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11/20/08

Epicharis

I don't have an opinion on that. Why would I? It's irrelevant to the fact that some women are immune but you have randomly decided that your apparent immunity has nothing to do with your body, it must be a gift from god.

11/20/08

Yes, I believe it was a gift from God, and nobody can convince me otherwise.

Over and out. Niters all!

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11/20/08

voodooKobra

Yes, let's just ignore the fact that some people are genetically immune to HIV. Let's just attribute natural phenomena to an ambiguously-defined magic man in the sky.

11/20/08

Epicharis

Why be restricted by logic when you can just float free, eh?

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11/21/08

kath

I've decided to not join threads with religious topics now because I once joined a discussion which turned quite nasty and it offended me but i just cannot resist this question.
In my life, yes- God is real.

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11/21/08

cornelhuman

Maybe the only certain thing is that it is us who is the "something" that is made up. As characters in story of life on earth.

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11/21/08

asaboy666

for me God made us and he made us! : )
friedpal.blogspot.com

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11/21/08

acousticguitarist

I've looked far and wide and I can't find a place where God isn't

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11/21/08

voodooKobra

Look no further than my mind.

11/21/08

mulledvine

If gods are made up then given that most of use are doing it we are a race of idiots.

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11/21/08

voodooKobra

We are a race of idiots. Don't believe me? Turn on the news.

11/21/08

farangrakthai

Well, God was made up when we were indeed a race of idiots.
Not that we evolved much actually...

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11/21/08

andelee

THE GOD now is MADE UP!

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11/21/08

theama

Who/what is "god"?

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11/21/08

I personally know a man that lived in Tibet all his life
and he was known to be a devoted worshipper of one of the fearsome diety's there.

He had devoted his whole life to this diety, forming a special devotion to this diety,
praying to it several times a day and even drawing it's image.

While he came to visit me here in the states, I noticed that while speaking to him
he would sometimes become distraced and looked sort of weird and feverish.

Then at the corner of my eye I can see that he was being followed by a monstrously large,
shadowy and misty presence.

Later after reading many Tibetian Text, I had come to realize that he created a (Tulpa).
A Tulpa is a creature created by the power of thought.

You can say that creative visualization can also produce something that looks very real
but is really just a hallucination of the mind.

Many people have claimed to see the Virgin Mary, Jesus, Buddha
and other God forms but it may be just creative visualization that created what you saw, nothing more.

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11/21/08

GFG

You need help

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11/21/08

and you look like the cure for penicilin.

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11/21/08

voodooKobra

Penicilin isn't a disease.

11/21/08

@VoodooKobra..it's a personal joke.
If any of you knew what it really meant, you would say "GOD DAMN".

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11/21/08

farangrakthai

Ok, we made it up.
But do not tell anybody, it could cause riots...

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11/21/08

JewishAngle

How are we to know for sure? Trying to prove God exists goes against faith in God. Trying to prove God doesn't exist is fruitless.

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11/21/08

arilestariono

good point

11/22/08

God is literature of the evil and produced by people inebriated by the idea of power over his similars, in order to instrumentalise and slope from free arbitrary and responsability!
as a simbol of this Milenary abuse i created a private /artistic Hardware called "aenors" wich is (no hazard) the alphabetical order of the idiome 'Reason'
www.aenors.com/
here is a link to some of my work!
have a great week end!
artcore

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11/22/08

Natura Deo Est!
www.aenors.com/
artcore

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11/22/08

siralmo

this thread reminds me of a discussion between thefrontline and myself somewhere in the following thread

www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/why-do-you-exist

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11/22/08

graffiti

We are but a speck in the universe, it's like asking an insect what's on TV tonight, or a microbe the way to the nearest train station. Essentially if religion didn't cause so many wars I'd say go for it, science is a belief system too don't forget, everything we do as a race is a bet, if you're dying it's probably good to think there's a higher cause involved, if you're not I think it best to take responsibility for your own life and not spend to long wondering why you're here but rather what you're going to do next...

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11/22/08

voodooKobra

We might be a speck of the universe, but physics has shown that the universe is made up of the same stuff all the way across.

11/22/08

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and that same (stuff) would be called matter, otherwise known as shit. lmao Also those beards that the Egyptian Pharoah's like King Tut wore, meant that you were a nice piece of excrement.

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2/05/09

harleylumowa

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2/05/09