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Veterans Day is designed to salute their service to this nation. I think we can not do enough to thank our service-people.

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  1. cooper
    Well Andy Rooney says no,in an oral essay they only let him speil because he is old and senile and they can call him crazy.

    He happened to be correct though.

    I keep this calendar on my desk, and while I don't look at it very often I notice that this Wednesday is Veterans Day. It's one of ten federal holidays that we have. Well, I'm a veteran and I hate that name.

    Considering that we aren't technically at war now, there's an awful lot about war in the news even when it's not something like Veterans Day. I suppose that's because there's so much fighting in the world. There are half a dozen small wars going on right now - some of them in places most of us have never been to or even never heard of before.

    Too many young men and women with a whole life ahead of them are getting killed before they have a chance to live it and for what?

    Of all the things that men do - historically mostly men - fighting a war to kill other men is the most uncivilized.

    Wars have been fought through time and we may think we're more civilized now than people were 100 or 500 years ago but there's no sign that fighting wars is a thing of the past. There's always one going on somewhere.

    Eight of my classmates - friends really - in school and college were killed in World War II. I've had 60 years of life that those eight friends never had. We call this a civilization?

    More than 5,200 American men and women, kids really - have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. It may be a small number in two small wars but if you're one of those killed or even a father or mother of one, there's nothing small about it.

    Why not, instead of commemorating Veterans Day, we establish and work on what we could call a "No War Day".

    The name doesn't have much of a ring to it but a day like that would be worth celebrating.
    1. drjalee52
      You have done an excellent job of articulating your thinking. War is a subject I will never comprehend. Yet, the people who serve this nation need our support. Veterans Days is a good day to give honor and reflect on just how important peace is in our life time. Thank you.
    2. DaneMorgan
      Absolutely. We would all be so much better off is we had just said, "Okay, Hitler, It's cool. We don't think war is civilized, so you just go ahead and run the place."

      Well, all of us as long as all of us doesn't include Jews, Homosexuals, Asians, Africans, Latins, and well, most of us.

      But Andy's 8 friends might all still be here, so that's a good trade.

      Seriously does anyone think while they read this stuff?

      Simple fact. So long as there are those who would do harm, those who cannot defend themselves had better hope to hell some one will do it for them.

      I'm the third guy.
    3. drjalee52
      DaneMorgan. I see your point but I do not see what motivated it. Could it be that without our Veterans, evil would have destroyed 80% of the population, therefore we should really show our appreciation, If we did not have our Veterans we or many of us would be dead? Could you share some more of your thinking on this subject or as you deem appropriate of this discussion...(Thank You)
    4. DaneMorgan
      My point is that I get tired of trite bumper sticker thinking. i suppose i should have wrapped portions of that post in [sarcasm] tags.

      "War is uncivilized" Excuse me, but it requires a civilization to be able to have a war. If you want to eliminate wars, eliminate civilization. Bear in mind that there will still be humans killing humans over resources, they just won't be as organized about it.

      War is an unfortunate fact in our existence, but stupid games like having a "no war day" serve no real purpose other than to make people like Andy Rooney feel like there might be a purpose to their existence.

      To take the opportunity of Veterans Day to chide the world about your Utopian Fantasies of lambs and lions sharing a veggie burger and a soy shake is repugnant.

      Andy can't put is politics aside for a single day and just say, "Thank you for your service."

      That's the real incivility here.
  2. CrazieShamrock
    Nice quote. As a Veteran, I must say that people really don't give two shits about us. It was different when there was a draft and everyone had to worry about going. Now that it is only those of us who choose/chose to serve, no one really pays much attention to our service. You can't blame people though. I mean they got their own stuff to worry about. Like where to go fishing on Veteran's Day.
    1. drjalee52
      I salute you and your service. Our educational systems dose very little to inform our children about Veterans Day. The only thing they know is a day off.
    2. jeremyjanson
      I care, but look at it this way, you have your honor. Is that worth nothing?

      Thank you for your service.
    3. DaneMorgan
      I for one, appreciate and thank you for your service.
  3. NatetheGrate
    Veterans Day was called Armistice Day when it started because it celebrated the end of World War I. That was a good thing. The name was changed because World War I turned out not to be the last world war, but the country still wanted to honor its soldiers. What's the problem with that?
    1. drjalee52
      Great information. Thank you.
    2. drjalee52
      Great information. Thank you.
  4. othellobloke
    I don't buy all that looney left liberal nonsense.

    It's easy to comprehend war. There are good and bad people. The good people have a duty to kick the shit out of the bad people.

    All that no-war-all-u-need-is-love-the-pen-is-mightier-than-the-sword-lets-have-a-group-hug is COMPLETE CRAP! We do not live in a perfect world AND NEVER WILL SO GIVE UP ALREADY!

    We need veterans day to show those who have the courage to put their life on the line for their fellow humans are appreciated!
    1. drjalee52
      This is the hard truth of the matter. People fight and die so that others may live. I wish there was a better way, but history tells us that this is the case.

      Yet, I still hope that we can put an end to all war. We hope that peace will have its day.

      God Bless our Veteran for all that they have done in service to our nation.
  5. trailofpen
    Yes, veterans need some time off after treating all those animals.
    1. drjalee52
      I do not understand the point you are stating? Could you make it clearer or give some form of example?
    2. BeamingBalance
      LOL @ trailofpen!
    3. trailofpen
      You've never taken your dog to the veteran? And you call yourself a Dr.
  6. MidwestMom
    I posted today about Veterans day at the BlogCatalog blog.

    www.blogcatalog.com/community/from-flanders-fields-to-silent-tears-bloggers...

    One of the best things about today (and yes, my children have spent time for the past week learning about World wars I and II) is that it provides an opportunity to call attention to the tremendous needs that exist for Veterans and military families. I used my post to highlight some of their great writing and to let people know about organizations like Blue Star Mothers and Wounded Warriors, who help Veterans not just on a single holiday, but all year long.

    So, yes. It's important.
    1. drjalee52
      Wonderful, I encourage everyone to visit. Also share with us this tribute to Veterans Day as well:
      thejoyofjesuschurchonline.blogspot.com/
    2. DaneMorgan
      Julia, you rock.
    3. MidwestMom
      [blushes] Thanks, Dane.
  7. drjalee52
    How should we truly celebrate our Veterans?
  8. lnclark1950
    I salute all veterans and invite them to visit my blog realmenrock.blogspot.com. I encourage all of you to take the time today to find a veteran and verbally thank them for their service. Freedom is never free. It cost someone their time and for some their lives to protect your freedoms. Men and women who have served I appreciate you and thank you for your sacrifice.
    1. drjalee52
      This is a wonderful idea. It starts at home, I will visit your site, thanks.
  9. peppX
    dunno, is it universal?
    1. MidwestMom
      It's called different names in different countries, but what we in the US call Veterans Day is celebrated on November 11, the date of the end of World War I.

      In Australia, it is Armistice Day. In Britain, it is celebrated as Remembrance Sunday, the Sunday before the 11th. And in Canada, it is known as Remembrance Day.
    2. drjalee52
      No, but if you wish to honor service and freedom; yes.
  10. Rivy
    I am a veteran. I served 3 years. Age 17 to 20. Luckily between wars - Korea and Vietnam. Are atrocities committed by soldiers? Yes. Are cops capable of unlawfully targeting certain individuals. Yes.

    But would you not call 911 if a rampage shooter entered you home or work place? And thank God for those who immediately respond?

    Most servicemen, just as most policemen, honorably serve our citizens. One day a year it is appropriate to salute them.
    1. drjalee52
      Thank you, Thank you , Thank you for your service/
  11. drjalee52
    Dose anyone care about our veterans? If so, how do we show it?
    1. DaneMorgan
      Julia's post
      www.blogcatalog.com/community/from-flanders-fields-to-silent-tears-bloggers...

      Links to several organizations through which you can support Vets, not just on 11/11, but all year long.

      There are many Vets, who having served this country, are in dire need of help from us.
    2. cooper
      Of course people care about our veterans, that doesn't stop people from finding wars ( in this day and age). ridiculous and fruitless. I also wonder at the standards the military is now willing to except in their recruits. It is my belief that being a soldier should be something that is a privilege not something that is more or less coerced due to societal position, and there are clearly studies which point to the fact that military non commissioned service is coerced in that way. When the imperative is because there is nothing else for this person as good as the military the motives aren't always what I would expect want them to be.



      Sadly, here the mission is full of veterans. That is the saddest thing, these men were treated badly after their service in Vietnam and ended up with no treatment and in missions or homeless shelters all over the country - homeless shelters because of course most state mental institutions have closed down. Working the mission or men's shelters is helpful but as far as current vets go it seems there is a bit of a dichotomy some get treated better than others. Some seem to be happy with their post service treatment others are not.



      Unfortunately the military or the government itself makes it very difficult for veterans to get what they are owed. There is a volunteer establishment in my city in which people with certain skill sets often volunteer (spending countless hours and weeks helping veterans weed their way through the convoluted system, the paperwork and the refusals for benefits and also for medical care, many times vets are not given "state of the art care", they are given standard or lesser care because it is cheaper. This organization works to get them through the red tape and many times to the state of the art care they should be getting anyway. I volunteered for them last summer and it's disgusting the way the veterans are treated in some cases after they are through their service.
    3. drjalee52
      The Veteran's Hospital in Washington D.C. was so badly run and maintained that they had to close it down for awhile. I have seen many homeless and sick Vets with no real help. Thank you for this important information...
  12. polybore
    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them.

    Laurence Binyon
    1. rgoolsby
      Great question and comments! Even though I am not a veteran, I appreciate their service, including the bravery and service of my dad at Omaha Beach on D Day.
    2. drjalee52
      Great post. Thank you.
    3. drjalee52
      Rgoolsby. What a great way to remember ones father and their tremendous service for humanity. Thank you.
  13. BeamingBalance
    I welcome any/all opportunities to say THANK YOU to all of our Nation's veterans and to all those serving and protecting us today (including my step-son who is in the US Army.)
    1. drjalee52
      Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Also, the families of our veterans are so valuable to our freedom. Thank you...
  14. deoangel
    My uncle serve in the war. He and some other veterans contacted some poison which resulted in a rare disease because of government testing. The government waited until he died recently to finally pay his family. He served in the Vietnam War. I don't agree with the war, however, I honor it in honor of my uncle and my grandfather. May they both rest in peace. Though my uncle and grandfather was not unscared by the war, I do hope that others come back safely. I also pray for there families as well.
    1. drjalee52
      Thank you for this touching tribute to your family that have served our nation greatly. We must all acknowledge the suffering that such service requires, and the freedoms we have as a result. Thank you so much.

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