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Lobsters feel Pain!
Posted by Stillthinking • 3/27/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: animal rights, food, lobsters
I just read an article on MSN that invertebrates such as crab and lobsters feel pain. They also learn and change their behaviors based on experience. That makes me feel profoundly guilty about eating crab and lobsters. I don't think I can eat a creature that has been boiled alive ever again.
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/?GT1=43001
What do you think?
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"I don't think I can eat a creature that has been boiled alive ever again."
That's a very odd thing to need to say...-
Lobsters are typically kept live in tanks until they are cooked, alive in vats of boiling water. Animal activists have argued for years that it's inhumane. Lobsterman have argued that lobsters and crabs don't feel pain and therefore, there is no animal cruelty issue.
Science now believes that invertebrates do indeed feel pain and this would make being boiled alive an incredibly terrifying and excruciating way to die. -
boiling something alive is not generally a nice thing to do!
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maybe the lobsters are masochistic.
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Being a vegetarian, I have felt for those poor lobstie-poohs too!
And when my boyfriend would womp down those lobsters, I could smell it all a mile away!-
See, I am not a vegetarian. I used to love crab and lobster. Now, I don't think I can eat it anymore. I know, cows and pigs feel pain too. So honestly, I should stop eating meat totally.
I am just so horrified by the boiling alive part that I keep cringing. -
You can have my tofu recipe if you need it.
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I actually already eat tons of tofu. Being Asian, tofu is a part of our food culture and it has nothing to do with vegetarian or non-vegetarian.
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I think they taste delicious. They can also live over 100 years.
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They can live over a 100 years. In fact, there was just one that was released off the coast of Maine for being an estimated 150 years old.
I don't think we would be eating them if they could talk. -
I don't think we'd be eating chickens or cows if they could talk either.
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I don't want to hear this! Stop it right now.
(***covering ears: la la la la la la la la***)-
@mtyler: you can have my tofu recipe too! At least I never met a soybean that screamed when it was roasted or cured.
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You probably feel the same way I do. You feel bad for the pain they feel, but at the same time, savor the deliciousness of crab meat or lobster tail in a delicate butter sauce.
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You may savor it, but in my mind it just plain stinks.
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I don't think I can eat lobster anymore no matter how delicious I may have once thought it.
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same here....
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The blood of Lobster is transparent and the nervous system are rather autonomic rather than sensory system -
You can eat lobster without boiling it alive, if that makes you feel better. There is absolutely no reason you have to eat it the traditional way.
As for me, I've always said that I could hear the lobsters scream when put into the pot - and everyone always said it's air, but I believe it's screams of pain.-
I watched Julia child split a live lobster in half with a meat cleaver on national television. It kept twitching until she tossed it into a saute pan.
I think it's pain too, especially when you hear lobster claws and legs scraping at the sides of the pan to get free on top of the horrid squealing. -
Of course, all screams are air unless they are underwater.
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Then, they are air bubbles.
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Well, all animals that you intend to eat will be killed while alive. Otherwise, you're not killing them. 0_o
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When they break them all up in the skillet though, the peices that are still twitching can't feel pain.
I'm allergic to crustaceans, so this wont effect my diet -
I am also allergic - so I'm free and clear as I've never cooked a lobster ever!
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You people with your lobster-free consciences!
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I too think that they are screaming. I also read a study about fish feeling pain. Well, duh! ANYTHING w/ a nervous system can surely feel pain.
I think that fishing is brutal.
They injected the pain of a bee sting into a fishes lip and the fish showed a pain response.
WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?!?
Maybe a scientist would enjoy a shot of this into their lips if they think it isn't going to hurt???
Hmmm..nice bee sting to the lip anybody?
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If you put it in the freezer it falls asleep and never wakes up, but its much more fun to stab a knife in the appropriate place.
Not sure about lobsters though...-
LOL!!! I don't want to know what you put in your freezer!
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I bet crpitt is choconiferous like me too! When you get a chocolate bunny, do you bite the head off first?
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I rather like chocolate bunnies, especially the caramel filled ones.
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So when you bite off the head, all that caramel comes gushing out? Wow! Vegetarian mayhem!
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what if they find out that soybeans feel pain?
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Have you heard about the subgroup of vegans that only eat fruit that has naturally fallen off trees? There you go. That is what happens if soybeans feel pain.
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I do actually do that to chocolate bunnies and anything else edible with a head
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LOL! I am keeping small animals away from you Ozzy.
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I knew it! Crpitt is choconiferous! Hugz, sister of the snaggletooth incisor!
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I don't actually like chocolate much, I haven't got much of a sweet tooth
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The really terrible thing is I have started emotionally equating lobsters with pets. Now I know I will never be able to eat one again.
If I wouldn't subject my cat to that kind of pain, I shouldn't find it acceptable to subject another species to it either.-
would you still eat a shrimp?
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Shrimp freeze to death when they are tossed into ice bins on the boats they are caught on. I don't have a problem with that.
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but they might feel pain when they're being dragged up in nets, with their tiny little legs caught in the sharp lines, their little bodies smashing against each other, crushing their little exoskeletons.
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Shrimp serve no purpose but to be eaten. If we didn't catch them in our nets, they would be chomped to death by dolphins, seals, whales and other wildlife.
There is no natural equivalent to being held captive for a week or more in a tank with other lobsters and then chucked into a vat of boiling water. -
serve no purpose other than to be eaten?! I hope you're kidding!
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Of course I am kidding!
Of course there is the shrimp version of lobster genocide. I read that somewhere in Korea, there is a Chinese restaurant that specializes in serving LIVE food. Shrimp that has been cleaned and shelled, but still live and wiggling is eaten that way. Fish that is still alive is pan fried and served still flapping their gills and fins.
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Be kind you your lobster
and if you do,
your lobster will be waiting
there for you.
It will...it will...it will...it will...-
I'm free of lobster guilt, I don't like it much and I'll just learn to ignore the thoughts of crabs in pain because they sure are tasty with somem elted butter.
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I just read the article
Now we know what those "contractors" do after employment at Guantanamo Bay.-
Smacks head. Of course you would find a way to politicize lobsters.
I have a better one for you.
Boiled alive is what we're going to be doing to AIG's financial products division. -
Are you going to eat that too? I do intimidate salesmen when I tell them that I eat them.
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I would feed them to ThriftShopRomantic's zombies.
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I wouldn't eat them. You don't know where they've been.
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That's why we are feeding them to the zombies. Keep up friend! (Points to the comment above^)
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Do AIG people feel pain when they burn in hell?
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That assumes that they feel at all. I think we all agree that AIG execs are actually parasitic amoebas.
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AIG blood is green with cash and their nervous systems are of the autonomic copper type that you plug into the big board of NASDAQ. Pain is what they experience when the numbers drop and they try to pass that current onto other entities that they think also have copper for nerves.
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Meat is murder.
Tasty tasty murder.-
LOL! Mmmm, death.
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tell that to MrCheeseburger. lol
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@agit8r Mr. Cheesburger is lucky he's not kosher.
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What if I am Kosher? My patty might not be beef... -
A cheeseburger cannot be kosher because meat may not be allowed with milk. Since cheese is a milk product, it isn't kosher to put it on the most kosher beef patty.
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My cheese is made from soy milk.
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And the patty is a tofu-burger? Watch out! You might have vegetarians coming to eat you after all! (eyes Mr. Cheeseburger hungrily)
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Ummmmmmm
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@lynneaurania & mrcheeseburger roflmao!
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I have never been able to eat lobster or crab.. because they resemble great big bugs to me.. ugh!-
Like those 3-foot long cockroaches we had back in the Carboniferous period? I suppose I might liken them to trilobites instead. They don't look particularly tasty to me. It gives new meaning to crustaceans from the deep.
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Potato bugs.. or cockroaches (Florida's palmetto) I just associate their looks with bugs. I can't help it.
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Lobsters got ammonium in their flesh. Not easy to cook
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Lobsters technically are great big bugs.
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Hmmm...don't I remember seeing a "Nay! Nay! Nay!" from you on timetheif's "Yay or Nay" game when someone proposed eating a canned giant water bug?
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From me? I didn't decide to give up lobster until today.
But if it was canned, I would have nayed it.
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Of course they do. Thats why they squeal when you drop them into boiling water.
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So, what is your patty made of if it's not meat? Is it a mushroom, soy, barley mixture?
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G-nite everyone! Free the lobsters!
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The truth is that the common practice of "killing" lobster is to stick the knife in the crevice between the head and the torso. That would cause instant death and considered humane.
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Being a Maine-ah myself.....Lobsta's are Wicked-licious...So are Shrimp...Scallops...I gave up eating pork and beef after seeing how processing factory's treated these animals...I could never give up seafood... -
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I always assumed anything w/ a brain that moved around w/in an environment could feel pain. That's when the brain says "move away" as self preservation and to avoid injury. When I saw the headline that lobster felt pain I initially thought "duh" and that the writer was desparate for something to write about. I didn't know about fisherman saying lobsters couldn't feel pain. -
I could swear I heard them screaming as they were being boiled alive.
I can't watch nor cook them and have their murder on my conscience.-
Of course, you can do penance. That's why I keep a catwhip handy. Hee hee...
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Plants feel pain too.
davidsright.blogspot.com/2008/12/hey-peta-mythbusters-proved-plants-feel.ht...-
Yes, I read that. There are specific hormones in plants to signal pain as well. I guess humans are the worst life beings on mother earth. Humanity can die in expense of the fauna and flora kingdom.
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Unless you think of humans as predators contributing to the cycle of life. Then, it is OK to eat a lobster. And a plant.
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wasn't there MARTHA STEWART scandal a couple years ago? i think she boiled live lobster on her show and they screamed, shocking everyone watching.
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