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LORD OF THE RINGS
Posted by rcal4848 • 5/23/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: lord of the rings
Just a discussion on anything LOTR related, yay!
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I'll start off the discussion by giving an observation I thought of the other day. Its interesting how in LOTR there are all these new prophets and guides and heroes fighting to save the world against a relatively new threat(sauron); and Tolkien has the characters pass by these old old powers of good and evil who seem to be unconcerned with the new. For instance Tom Bombadil- they even suggest they hide the ring in his house, because they felt he could stave off all of the hoards of sauron, by himself. And the arachnid who lives in the caves by sauron, who he the dark lord himself is afraid of. What is the point of creating these forces of good and evil, who seem to be more good and more evil than the main characters? Please what do you think?
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Lord of the Rings sucks and is only for total nerds.-
Huh?
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whatever man, i've already exposed you for the shameless ignorant egotist that you are. It's ok to have an ego, but when your as vastly incompetent and unimaginative as you, it just seems mad petty.
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that doesn't change the fact that "LOTR" is totally lame
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seriously...are you 14?
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If I was 14 I'd just be someone mad younger than you who had more perspective than you on life and the world. And that would only make you sadder. So maybe you should be saying what are you 65? It might be less insulting to urself.
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your "perspective" is wrong
and you didn't answer the question...
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to call any perspective wrong, is like taking a gun and blowing your own brains out. You're power of being is stunted immediately right there as soon as u make the statement.
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nope...yours is wrong
btw wrong version of "your"
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lol and then u criticize my spelling, your classic
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wrong version of "your" Frenchie
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Oh how I hate when people use 'u' instead of typing those extra two letters...
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you're insults are like little baby arms brushing against the rough of my cheeks now. I know I have dissembled your whole being, taken it apart and put it on the table in front of me. There is not much there. You havnt made yourself much. And what little there is, there is little beauty present. Just a shadow of the American mechanism.
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^ totally from France...hey we call them Freedom Fries now asshole!
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the words of a defeated man
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Don't get it, cookie. Why all the hostility? -
First:
You're= You are
Your= possessive
ex:
Your head is big. (You have a big read)
You're happy. (You are happy)
wrong ex:
Your happy. (You have happy?)
You're point of view is biased. (You are point of view is biased?)
Now, back to the topic.
I read the first two vols of LOTR, didn't had patience to read the last one, instead I decided to watch the movie only. Big mistake? Probably.
Why there's a need to create something eviler than the "Evil Boss" or something better than the "Good Hero" I don't know. It's a constant in some branches, specially RPG games.
I guess it's a try to depict that those with higher powers are not interested in domination, only "inferiors" care about such trivial thing. -
thanks for the input but not for the petty grammar lesson, I think anyone reading could understand in the context.
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Nothing against you but being able to understand in the context is not an excuse to make mistakes. Else there would be no real need to write respecting grammar rules. I doubt one would be able to sell a book full of spelling and grammar mistakes. It's really annoying to read.
If you know the correct form, why not use it?
If you don't know, why not try to learn? It's not that hard.
Personally I get surprised seeing how many people make this simple mistake (misplacing your and you're).
Anyway, now I would like to know your opinion on the point you brought up. Why create a good or evil force that surpasses those from the main characters (heroes and villains)? -
I liked LOTR when I was 12 too. -
I think The Lord of the Rings is a fantastic tale. -
my man that is what editors are for. Anyway hmm what is my opinion. I would guess that these characters, were a scale, a measuring stick, showing exactly how good and how evil the main characters were, making their struggles more tangible in context to the history of the land.
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I loved LOTR. Tolkien created a Christian parable without ever mentioning religion. But if we want to find plot holes, that is easy to do. I always wondered, why didn’t Gandalf have one of those big eagles just pick up Frodo and drop him on Mount Doom? When the Nazgul were on horses in the Shire, they didn’t have those winged thingies to fly on to protect Mount Doom. I know the answer. It would have made for a short story instead of a trilogy!
As for LOTR being for nerds…I plead guilty! Thing is…blogging is also for nerds…-
I always wondered, why didn’t Gandalf have one of those big eagles just pick up Frodo and drop him on Mount Doom?
You may have seen this already: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU
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Impossible! The Nazgul would've ripped those birds to shreds!
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HA! That was funny. No, I didn't see that before. But that's exactly what I'd have done where I in charge. Except, assuming Frodo wouldn't let go of the ring, the eagle should have dropped Frodo into the volcano. Oops...sorry Frodo.
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Well, I'm glad it didn't happen that way, despite the many losses suffered during the journey. I liked the intricacies of the story, and how descriptive it is. And, having already seen the first of Peter Jackson's LotR films when I began reading the books, I found it easier to picture the situation(s).
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I feel the same way Friday. I read the books after seeing the movies and I already had a picture in my mind. Some people would prefer to have their own picture, but the movies were so awesome that I didn't mind at all.
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yes there were holes. But I don't think any world will be more thoroughly envisioned and so talentedly and mystically written out as Tolkien's. His shear devotion mixed with a magical sense of prose, makes him the true master, waiting to be overcome by the next in line.
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Lord of the Rings is the BEST ever
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Tolkien created a new genre. Being a scholar Tolkien knew his mythology. His books have the feel of a travelogue and we are along for his journey. How could a stodgy Oxford professor have such an imagination? It’s pretty amazing.
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Lots and lots of pipe-weed
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Good point! Do you suppose Tolkien partook of pipe weed himself? He smoked a pipe. I wonder what he put in that pipe!
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I truly loved the LOTR - and if you want to jump one step further - I love stories of Dragons, Fairies, Elves, Halflings and the such that were spawned from those and Celtic tales.
I still love Fantasy as top of the world stuff.
And I'm a HUGE Disney Fan as well.
I find that allowing the mind to wander is more freedom than almost anything else in the world.
But - I dislike RCAL arguments.
EDIT: I think Tolkien was a Master Writer of his Genre and imagination. -
Would prefer if he'd/she'd/it had been one of the Trolls in The Hobbit that were touched by the sun.
Or perhaps this is why RCAL is so TOUCHED. -
We could compare the world of Harry Potter to LOTR. Both are very intricate. Is one better then the other? I prefer LOTR, no disrespect to Harry. Harry’s world has the veneer of witchery, but to my thinking the details are superficial. It’s interesting how the British are better writers of such things then Americans.
Vote…Harry or Fordo!-
JK rowling is British and so is Tolkien. -
Alice in Wonderland, the Gorgemghast novels, C.S. Lewis' Narnia and Howl's Moving Castle also come to mind for the best of British fantasy. -
Phillip Pullman of the "His Dark Materials" also British. I think...
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Don't forget Susan Cooper's The Dark Is Rising series, as well as LM Boston's The River at Green Knowe series. Both are British classics.
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I wonder if British culture is responsible for their excellent fantasy authors? America really has no culture. American writers excel at modern horror (Poe, H.P. Lovecraft, Anne Rice and Stephen King).
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Americans are also really great at sci fi. Issac Asimov, Philip K Dick and Piers Anthony come to mind.
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I dunno.. The whole VAMPIRE/LOVE thing is completely American - and the other stories are, as well.
A lot of Margaret Weiss Tracy Hickman stories are INCREDIBLE - and I believe they are also Americans.
It truly depends on if you get into the writing - the novels - they are NICHE art...
Harry Potter was very good - and I enjoyed it - NEVER once did it cross my mind that it was written for children. EVER.
My Favorite book of ALL time - is WATERSHIP DOWN. If you have NOT read it - I would suggest picking it up and going through it. -
I think Pullman was up there with Tolkien. Wagerwitch I wont be pulled into an insult match with you. Stillthinking already wore me out today, she's a veracious lady. I'm actually working on a fantasy piece right now, I'm really getting into it, probably more than any piece I've written thus far(isn't saying much).
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I have no need of an insult match with you.
You're a decent writer and you're a forum troll.
For whatever reason, you literally have no internet social skills and purposefully evoke written arguments - to which you are one sided, rude and ungrateful.
You purposefully ask for an opinion - then when it is given, you retaliate with an illogical and personal commentary.
I think you have talent - but I dislike you tremendously on the boards.
You're like that uncle that everyone can't stand in the family because he's too busy being a jerk - but he has great war stories.
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OK and American horror writers have the ability to write fantasy, but because they are lodged in the terror that is the U.S.A. they choose to write about terrible disgusting things. I'm half serious Example: Stephen King's Dark Tower series was an excellent deep themed fantasy series. But the man chooses horror over fantasy.
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haha I just cannot accept senseless drivel that I find disagreeable and would rather put up a fight than let it pass. But I will not continue because u compared me to a uncle everyone hates that tells awesome war stories, and that is an excellent comment for my BlogCatalog personality. I thank you sincerely.
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HA!!!!
He's being nice.
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