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Mexico invading the US!
Posted by bsd13 • 9/06/07 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: mexican trucks, Mexico, NAFTA, teamsters
I just threw together a quick post about the Mexican invasion of the US which is beginning in earnest with the blessings of Mr. Bush.
www.ablogaboutnothing.com/the-mexicans-are-coming-the-mexicans-are-coming
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blessings of Mr. Bush.
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Yes. I know. This is all part of the One World Government agenda. That is why America is creating a NAFTA Superhighway. So Canada, US and Mexico can use this highway which is being built in Loreado, TX and will expand over the US.
Guess who owns this road? Spain!!
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What is not a good idea? The road being owned by Spain? You have something against Spain? -
With her "One World Government" comment, I suspect she thinks foreign ownership of any kind is dangerous. She probably also thinks the U.N. is trying to take over the U.S. -
From the Texas Department of Transportation website:
"With no funding set aside for construction, a public-private partnership would allow development of the entire 600-mile multi-billion dollar project from Northeast Texas to Mexico to be accelerated. Even with private sector resources to fund the project, state transportation officials stress TTC-69 will remain a state-owned project."
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This thread reminds me of a funny Cold War movie, "The Russians Are Coming." Here are some of the highlights:
www.youtube.com/v/pXXGep9RB34-
Yes!!! You are correct to both your comments.
I have nothing against Spain. I am sure their citizens are wonderful. It is the government I fear. Kinda like my own government.
Borders...we don't need to stinkin borders..."Per our government, that is."
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I have already noticed a change in our landscape here in Oklahoma. The south side of town now has everything written in two languages english and spanish. I am already tired of it. I know that other countries do the same thing but I still don't have to like it.-
Get over it, Brian.
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Just today on my way back from lunch a guy pushing a stoller asked me to read a billboard for toyota. He asked is that spanish? I said yeah and he asked why is it in spanish when america is english. I said that los angeles has a large latino population and he got pissed and said he moved here from france and didnt want to be in a spanish slum. He said he was going to call the mayor and complain. I started laughing because our mayor is latino and the fact that he was from france and was making a stink. What an idiot! -
I will someday Mark I'm sure. Growing up in my town you are just raised very Red, White, and Blue. By that I mean you are expected to drive only american cars and so on. It is just a country thing. Plus it puts a big strain on our financial infrastructure. I know that sounds like I don't like mexicans but that's not true. I just don't like the fact that my tax dollars go toward paying the health related expenses of people that aren't paying into the system.
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I believe in free trade. It's good for both nations.
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Too bad it actually has very little to do with "free trade"
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This has nothing to do with free trade. It has to do with our national soverignty being bought and sold to the highest bidder.
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Eliminating trade barriers and government's restrictions is the essence of free trade. We have to give up some to gain some. Most people with a background in economics know this.
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Well, THANK GOD!!...at LAST SOME REAL MEXICAN FOOD!!.
WATCH OUT TACO BELL...HA HA-
that's what i'm talkin about.
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you ust not live in los angeles
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I blogged about that as well. The whole situation really is disturbing. Truck drivers are one of the few occupations left in this country where you can make a decent living without being real smart or subjecting yourself to terrible hazards. I think Bush's American Dream is one where truckers make less than minimum wage as they "compete" (get overrun by, is more like it) against the little jerks from down south.
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The truck issue is a legitimate policy concern. I just wish it hadn't got mixed up with xenophobic overtones here.
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Take it from someone in the UK, when they start making your celebrations, traditions and history illegal because it might offend, you have finally caught up with Europe.
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It's already begun in the US, too. -
Explain. Are you referring to the so-called (but non-existent) war on Christmas?
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There is the very real war on Christmas, but here's just one more quick example:
The principal of a school in Florida spotted two members of the Gideons handing out free copies of the Bible to anyone interested. In nothing flat, she was on the phone to the sheriff's department.
Now, you might expect the police, trained as they are in law enforcement, to first ask the question: "Which law is being broken here?" Instead, these "suspicious" characters were subdued, detained and arrested on the spot.
The conviction was overturned and the police department will likely have to pay damages, but this kind of intimidation is not uncommon these days.
If you want to read more about this particular case see
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Proselytizing is legal on school property? An arrest seems unwarranted, but I should think that the school grounds should be free of that kind of thing.
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If you'll read carefully they were on a public sidewalk outside the school. That is NOT school property. No, I'm not blaming the Mexicans for it. I realize my comment was off topic. Sorry.
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Well if Canadians have the right to bring their trucks across the border then why not the Mexicans? My only concern is that they should also adhere to safety and protocol that's already set in place.
I lived in New York City and Miami and absolutely loved the cultural diversity of both places. I think that immigrants bring diversity and flavor that would enhance a nation not detract from it. I find it ironic that people would protest about more immigrants when this country was founded upon by immigrants themselves. -
This is not a question of immigration. This is a question of ILLEGAL immigration. It has nothing to do with cultural diversity, two languages, food, or anything else save one: THE LAW. Immigration laws are in effect for a reason, to protect the infrastructure of the country. When illegal immigrants are bankrupting entire towns, whether they be Mexican, Cuban, Canadian, or martian, the ramifications are disastrous.
As for free trade, the term trade implies trading of equal goods and services. That has not happened, and certainly will not happen with CAFTA either. The only trade that has occurred is that American jobs have moved across the border to produce goods then being sent back to our own country.-
"bankrupting entire towns" ?
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I read an interesting article in a retail trade journal the other day indicating that the cost of living for consumers was lower in areas more heavily populated by immigrants.
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I might as well cross post the following thread, which I started in reaction to this one:
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Look up Hazelton, PA. The town's population grew by 10,000, the large majority immigrants, in 6 years, yet the amount of tax payers and tax $ stayed the same. The town tried to enact laws to protect themselves by forcing businesses and landlords to report illegals, only to have the laws declared unconstitutional by the state courts.
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Federal preemption of laws relating to immigration policy isn't new; regardless of anyone's position on illegal immigrants, there was never any question of a local government having the authority to make such laws.
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Where does Hazelton get its revenue? Property taxes? If so, people who rent apartments are contributing too. I'd have to look into the issue more carefully, but as nice as Hazelton is, I cannot imagine anyone going there to get rich on the backs of other taxpayers. Heck, the town was built by a diverse array of immigrants. Just look at its variety of churches. My impression was that it is an industrial town that had seen better days. What industries used to dominate there? Which are left?
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Only the federal government refuses to help. They force communities to foot the bill. If communities have to pay for it, they should have the right to control it.
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Okay, maybe I'm just dense, but I always had the impression that more people means a larger tax base, which means more revenues for towns.
[Edit: foot what bill?]
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More legal people, yes. But illegals don't pay taxes.
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Says who? If they have false documentation, they will pay taxes but never get retirement benefits. If they rent housing, they are indirectly paying property taxes. If they buy gas, they are paying fuel taxes. If the state has a sales tax, then the illegal immigrants pay that too.
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Um wrong... Why do you think they need to acquire ids to get jobs? Where does the money that gets taken out of their paychecks go?
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Well it is nice to see we are on the same wavelength... GET OUT OF MY HEAD
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It still doesn't amount to federal and state employment taxes, and property taxes are based on the capacity designated, not the actual capacity. And none of this changes the fact that we are being forced to pay for and allow federal offenders to remain in our communities. As I said before, it all boils down to the law, hence the term illegal.
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Federal and state employment taxes are getting taken out of their paychecks.
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Yes, many are paying state and federal income taxes.
But let me stoop low now. You have a blog called "Life of a Christian Woman." You see no contradiction between Christ's teachings and what you're saying? -
Christ doesn't care about the poor or the...
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Well, I was going to say something but pointlessbanter and stoneman and Madame X have all said it better already. -
Well Bornliar, this is one of those cases where it is great to get extra voices of reason.
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When the North American Free Trade Agreement was created in 1994 not many of us would have predicted the tremendous loss of industries and jobs in Canada and the U.S.A. and the suffering and loss of standard of living inflicted on so many Canadians and Americans....
The North American Free Trade Agreement should have been used to help
Mexico raise their peoples' standard of living more toward the standard of life enjoyed by Canadian and American citizens....
It also could have helped mitigate the damage caused by the industries and jobs being lost in Canada and U.S.A due to globalization, walmartization, the abililty of China to manufacture almost anything imaginable and ship it to another continent to retail for a dollar....
Instead of even trying to do something positive for the people of Canada ,U.S.A and Mexico....It seems that the North American Free Trade Agreement was just a dirty deal to allow big business to set up shop in areas of the world where labor standards and wages are low and environmental laws are lax and avoid paying the trade tarriffs ...
It was a missed opportunity to better the lives of people living North America and the North American Free Trade Agreement continues to wreak havoc in the lives of Canadians and Americans who lose their jobs and standard of living as evidenced by this recent U.S.A/Mexico trucking controversy.....-
Shifting the focus back on global economic developments makes a whole lot more sense than blaming low-wage immigrants.
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It's all the fault of Norwegians, especially Norwegian fishermen.
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Lol, don't get me started on free trade and the fishing industry.
The big trawlers send the fish from here to China for filleting, then to Canada for packaging and then they send it back to Norway to be sold as frozen fish.
All because it's a bit cheaper this way than doing all the processing here in Norway.
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Cheaper because environmental and social costs are considered irrelevant.
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Christianity has nothing to do with illegal immigration. God commands that we are to obey civil authority. So once again, I repeat, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING EXCEPT AMERICAN LAW. There are legal ways to immigrate into this country.
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Except where obedience to such authority conflicts with Christian principles. We are to give Caesar what is Caesar's, not what is God's. -
If it has nothing to do with anything but the law, why were you making spurious claims about people being a tax burden and not paying any taxes themselves.
And for the record, we the people make the law. We have the power to change things. Unfortunately, there might be something to Pointlessbanter's observations below. -
April, there are, indeed, legal ways to immigrate to this country. Depending upon the country from which one wishes to immigrate, those ways may take 5-7 years, require thousands of dollars, or be open only to people with a special skill or education (making them the people least in need of a change of venue, in most cases).
As a mother, would you be content to patiently wait out those years while one or more of your children died of an easily treatable disease or just plain starvation? Would you feel you were doing the right Christian thing by letting that happen, or by doing your part (as mandated by law) to further the cause of an oppressive government that might be murdering your neighbors?
Perhaps the answer is yes; it's a nuanced issue. But it's certainly much more complicated than "we're supposed to follow the law". We're supposed to protect human life, too--even our own. And we're supposed to refuse to cooperate with or facilitate evil. -
Thank you, Madame X, for your reality check. Too often these myths are repeated until everyone just "knows" that anyone can immigrate legally any time they want and only lazy freeloaders or criminals immigrate illegally, thus depriving the US government of their taxes. Complete BS, of course, but it's hard for the facts to be heard over "everybody knows!".
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I hate to tell you thought illegal immigration is going nowhere. It is currently a political plank because it is a great scare tactic.
In the long haul both political parties really don't want illegal immigration to go away. On the right you have big business who exploits these workers... and well lets face it exploitation is good for the bottom line. On the left you have a group that doesn't want to insult a large part of their constituency.
Then you have the issue of both parties not having a clear plan. You can't "ship them all out" because it would have a disastrous impact on the economy.-
You could start the shipping out process with the illegal criminals that get arrested for breaking other laws while they are here. Even though just being here is breaking the law that is apparantly not a law that matters.
When they kill, steal, rape etc. they should be deported and not improsined here. We have enough criminals to take care of on my dime as it is now.
As far as the disastrous impact on the economy, they are having a disastrous impact on the economy just by being here in the first place. Republicans love them being here so they can exploit them for low wages.(Which is changing quickly because the illegals are on to that little trick now and are demanding higher and higher wages.)
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Can you prove "they are having a disastrous impact on the economy just by being here in the first place"? Economic theory would suggest that the opposite is the case. For starters, where would we be with Social Security benefits right now? Those get paid by withholding taxes.
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What you all need to do is go to Alex Jones' website(s):
InfoWars: infowars.com/
PrisonPlanet: www.prisonplanet.com/
Listen to him online, read his articles, watch his movies on YouTube or Google for FREE.
He talks about NAFTA all the time, he talks about vaccines literally killing us and creating a zombie nation.
Just listen to him!!! He will OPEN your eyes to the TRUTH! And, he may scare the living _ _ _ _ out of you too...-
Investigated the vaccines thing myself because of my daughter. Google "ingredients vaccines" The results scare you witless. How can they justify additives such as mercury, aluminium and formaldehyde.
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I might have clicked those links, until I read your mini-rant on OPENING my eyes to the TRUTH!!!1111
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Your talk above of "the One World Government agenda" undermines your credibility in my eyes. And "vaccines . . . creating a zombie nation": Really? This sounds like the general in "Dr. Strangelove" who obsessed about fluids.
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Oh, Bethany, you should click...for the entertainment value. It's kind of sad, because there is actually some accurate and important information buried here and there in the flashing green Matrix-style scare rhetoric, and it would be so much easier to take seriously with, say, different headlines.
Then too, it's always interesting to see the voice of rebellion out there to warn us all and save the world plastering his site with stuff we can buy...through the very electronic transactions that started this whole "cashless society" trend. -
Oh my goodness, there's even a Freemasonry archive! This reminds me of rhetoric in Germany in the early 1930s; fear the conspiracy of internationalists, freemasons, Jews . . . .
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Priceless: there's a link to some sort of religious message (perhaps a paid ad) that talks about some sort of conspiracy involving blood and depopulation. At the bottom is a big red link to the following warning:
"Any attack on the words of these pages (and links) herein, whether it be directly or indirectly, by those whom these words speak of or by their agents or any instrument of theirs, will receive a thousand times what they gave to others, and the plagues and miseries they unleashed upon others, will abound in them."
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Grammatical errors so weaken a diatribe in my mind...
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Possibly. My posting it already constitutes one I fear.
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Oh, here's another bit of "truth" that has been dugg 366 times: "Neo-Cons Enlist Bin Laden's Help To Counter 9/11 Truth" --- infowars.com/articles/sept11/neo_cons_enlist_bin_laden_help_counter_911_tru...
Conspiracy theories make my head hurt.-
I can't even figure out whether they're suggesting that it's not Bin Laden and the administration made up the tape, the administration is collaborating with Bin Laden, or there is no Bin Laden and it's all just a tactic. It seems like all three, maybe, without regard to the fact that they can't be simultaneously true?
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That's the thing about this kind of literature: it must conform to a certain cultural logic, but internal factual consistency is irrelevant.
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I know this one is very cliche' but they are using our emergency rooms for doctors offices for runny noses and hangnails. Not long ago we had to take my father in law to the ER and they said there was a 6 hour wait. The lobby was full of immigrants that I could not prove were legal or illegal but they were definitely not from around here. One after the other after the other went up to the desk, no insurance, not bleeding, limping, grabbing their chest or anything like that. Most of them had at least one baby stuck to them and a whole slew of relatives and friends.
The first medical person that we were finally able to talk to said from now on that we should always call an ambulance because you get seen before the coughers and snifflers.
Everybody keeps crying about wanting socialized health care. We already have socialized health care. It's called, "go to the emergency room and you will not be turned away even for your inability to pay."
This is why so many hospitals in California and other places have had to shut down. Because they are being over run by freeloader illegals.(And I am sure there are some freeloading Americans too but not 20 million of them.)
They are not paying taxes like they say they are. You have to have proper documentation to pay taxes and stolen ss numbers do not count. They account for more DWI arrests in North Carolina than any single group and they are immersed in the gang culture. Most do not want to blend in to America,(according to what I hear them say themselves) they want to conquer it. La Raza? The Race. What if a bunch of white dudes had a group called "The Race" and always stated that they did not want anything more than to take over the government and the land.
Then, and only then would you hear a huge uproar from all the people who right now say we should leave the poor pitiful illegals alone.
And no, I am not a racist and I don't hate Mexicans and the others but if they are going to be here I would expect more gratitude for the blessings that this country has to offer them instead of the blatent disregard for everything we have done for them while they were here illegally.-
The emergency room situation is a function of our failing health care system. People cannot afford to see a doctor, so they wait and go there. If we had a decent health care system (universal health coverage of some kind), this would not be an issue.
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There's a lot of misunderstanding in this post.
First, hospitals triage incoming patients in the ER and those with more serious problems are supposed to be taken ahead of the "coughers and snifflers" anyway, with or without an ambulance.
Second, the availability of ER care does not amount to socialized medicine because:
-patients are billed whether or not they have the ability to pay, resulting in collection agency harassment, possible garnishment of wages or other property, and credit damage (we can argue all day about whether or not that's as it should be, but whatever your view on that, it's hardly "socialized")
-adequate medical care requires more than ER care. If you've ever gone into the ER, you know that unless you're admitted to the hospital, they do the bare minimum to sustain you and tell you to schedule a follow-up appointment with your own doctor, often providing only enough medication to get you through to that follow-up appointment. -
"everything we have done for them while they were here illegally" --- What would that be?
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The Race, I belive would be the KKK. What happened to them? What are they waiting for? Why have they not taken over America yet? Would not the KKK be called The Race. Pure White, blonde, blue eyes...
But, I agree with you Banjo3.
**Have you ever heard of the NAFTA Superhighway before this post?" If not, even if you do not like Alex Jones, he is the only person, or talk show host, I know of who talks about it. About it being a bad thing. Oh, and George Noory from Coast to Coast also talks about it with Jerome Corsi.** -
There are plenty of other sources of information.
As far as your race and KKK remarks go, I don't know where to begin. Just awful.
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The healthcare system is screwed up because of all the baseless lawsuits against doctors. If a doctor really screws up to the point that they need to be sued then I say sock it to them.
If it wasn't for outside forces telling the doctors what to do and how to do it then the healthcare system would be way better off.
As far as the er not being socialized medicine, sure they can be billed for the treatment they recieve but they don't have to pay for it just because they were billed. If they have nothing to take, assets and such, then they just got free healthcare and the cost is passed along to those of us who actually do pay for our treatment.
Stoneman, Madame X, I have enjoyed this brief discussion but I have to run. I will check back later on tonight for more on this topic.
This is one of those things that could get misunderstood as far as the tone goes so let me say, we're still BC Friends and I'll catch you later.-
I think that's a misconception as well. It's certainly a hotly debated issue with strong feelings running on both sides, but after a lot of research it seems to me that the insurance companies are much more at the root of that problem than lawsuits against doctors, for a few reasons.
I discovered, however, that it's too late at night for me to lay out those reasons coherently, so I will have to revisit this issue tomorrow.
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As for socialized medicine, I am very leery of it. My grandmother lives in Canada. After a serious fall, she had to wait a week for this, a week for that, until finally a full month after the fall, she was able to get an MRI. She had a broken neck and had to put in a halo. If she were younger than 90 and more active, she could easily have been paralyzed by the bone fragments near her spinal cord. The only thing that saved her was that the pain in her neck, and her severe arthritis, kept her pretty much bedridden.
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Wow I was just looking at some old Elvis Presley Clips and James Browm, but this is more groovy
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Alex Jones sounds like a nut case right?
For some strange reason, I just believe the man.
Just want to comment on the vacines, you folks mentioned.
Look up on google how the US govt TESTED unapproved vaccines( that means not approved by the FDA)
on Low Income children in Los Angeles, Africa and Hati
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That reminds me of the movie Constant Gardener where they were using unapproved vaccines as a trade off in medical care in Africa.
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I don't think that it comes as a surprise to anyone that the U.S. government has conducted testing on Americans without their knowledge or approval--specific cases have been related in well-documented news stories over the years and I believe that the government has even paid settlements for some of them. I think it's a natural assumption that we don't know about all of them.
It isn't limited to the government, either. Recently a University paid a huge settlement to some subjects from a "stuttering study"--they'd been told that they had stuttering problems, though some did not, and subjected to "corrective techniques" that actually induced serious stuttering, lifelong for some.
And even in recent years studies have been conducted quite openly that I find morally objectionable--for instance, creating a "control group" of children who would be deprived of head start services in order to test how much better the children who got those services did throughout their lifetimes.
But there's a huge leap from "the government did secret, harmful, and often illegal testing on people without their knowledge" and "the government is testing fake vaccines on us in an effort to create a shot that will wipe out half of the population" or whatever particular extrapolation occurs...and the real danger is that the fact, which is often critical, gets lost in the fantasy, rhetoric and projection, and the things everyone really SHOULD be aware of don't get heard. That's the really serious harm of someone like Alex Jones. He has some facts mixed into his futurevision over there, facts that no one could dispute if he stuck to them.
I think that if we stuck to the facts, it might be much easier to get people to hear the things they really need to know, like that we now have an executive order that allows the government to freeze your money and property without due process (or even notice) if you fall into the vague, undefined category of people whose actions might be "destabilizing to the effort in Iraq". Simple fact, easily verifiable on the official White House website, but who knows or believes it? Maybe we're all so used to hearing dramatic warnings about black helicopters and death vaccines that we automatically lump the outrageous facts into the same category.
Hey, maybe THAT's the conspiracy...
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dharmagypsy7:
Is that what that movie was about? I had no idea.
I mean, yeah, I have known about our mercury laden vaccines being shipped to Africa for only 3 years now, but I had no idea that movie was about America selling our mercury vaccines to create deaths and destroy children in Africa.
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Hey Momoftwingirls,
I think the movie is actually based off the U.K government and Europe in General. Part of the synopsis...
He finds Kioko standing in line to receive a free medical checkup/treatment by the crew from the ThreeBees cooperation. He observes Kioko's medical card, which is essential for receiving treatment from ThreeBees employees and sees an "I.C. (informed consent)" section. This implies that people who want free medical treatment must agree to a Dypraxa treatment whether they want or not, and Justin sees that people are not even being well informed that they are subject to a new drug test
The movie is actually fictional but sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
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You are now entering the twilight zone, where fact and fiction are impossible to distinguish . . .
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Vaccine ingredients and their effects:
www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/ingredients.html
poisonevercure.150m.com/ingredients.htm
The MMR vaccine and autism (nation of zombies......maybe. Research is still on going.)
www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=237
Illegal drug trials
www.essentialdrugs.org/indiadrug/archive/200401/msg00016.php
business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/health/article1990...
Plus many many more....
Interesting twilight zone.
Sorry about the off topic.
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