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NASA moon walker says we've had contact with aliens
Posted by kdawg68 • 7/24/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: aliens, NASA, space, ufo
Hi guys,
Sort of a hit and run here as I've got to be on the road - but I thought this was fascinating. A guy who walked the moon with Alan SHeppard claims we've been covering up contact with ET's for the last 40 years.
Usually I'd scoff at such claims - but how do you respond when the man making the claim has actually walked on an extraterrestrial surface?
Fascinating:
www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html
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We have been in existance for thousands of years. Our planet has been evolving for billions. Who is to say there isn't a species that is over 1,000 years ahead of us on the curve?
We can fly, we can break the speed barrier and within 100 years we will travel at the speed of light. We are not that far off from being ETs to some other culture ourselves.
Frankly I don't see this as being something completely outside of the realm of possible.
The only people who can't and will not believe this are religious folk who demand we were placed on this planet 4500 years ago by an invisible man in the sky.
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I wouldn't think that being an astronaut would make you any more privy to government secrets than anyone else, but interesting nonetheless.
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And I know this probably makes me an ass for saying it but I can't help it...Does Dr. Mitchell know if ET really made it home?
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There's a good explanation for this: The real Alan Sheppard was kidnapped back in 1971. Apollo 14 had landed too close to the super-secret Fra Mauro formation installation, set up by the Galactic Protectorate.
The entity we've been seeing since then is an impostor, planted as a spy to infiltrate NASA. His real name is Glibtznarg.
To make a long story short, Glibtznarg started feeling guilty, around the time that Earth invaded Mars - again - with the Phoenix expedition. He's a rather inhibited chap, so instead of blowing his cover, he's using Sheppard's identity in an effort to expose the Galactic Protectorate.
Almost makes sense, doesn't it?
Seriously, I think calais50 is on to something here. -
When an Astronaut talks about Aliens people listen and believe.
When Jeunelle talks about Aliens people laugh and say I'm on crack. lmao -
Heh, I knew before I clicked the link that that was going to be Edgar Mitchell. He was an alumni of the university I graduated from. Everyone indicates that while very intelligent, he's also kind of... eccentric... about a number of things. His view on aliens being a biggie.
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Interesting. I appreciate your familiarity with the subject and thank you for sharing. I remember seeing an astronaut (may have been Sheppard) in Houston when I was in Elementary School. I asked him if he believed in Aliens and he told me point blank that none of the Moon landing guys were non-believers. Obviously that's a far cry from proof-positive, but still intersting. Of course, I suppose you'd suspect that someone willing to risk their life for space exploration might be inclined to carry such beliefs.
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I wish I could recall right now the statements I've seen him make. I just recall thinking how they weren't even as based in science as you might expect.
I'm not trying to minimize his accomplishments, of course. Being an astronaut has to be a life-changing experience, plus requires a lot of bravery and knowledge I could never hope to have.
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How much you wanna bet he dies soon, of "complications from a routine check up". *cough*coverup*choke*
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The part that troubles me is that he seems to believe in Roswell. I know, I know - that's like gospel to the UFO faithful - but in my opinion it was a 1970's mythical creation loosely based on facts by that freakazoid Stan Friedman (the weird guy with the glasses and beard on EVERY UFO show).
Edit: I say 70's creation because NO ONE seems to have talked about it from the time it happened until Friedman wrote about it and turned it into this huge "cover up" conspiracy in the 70's. I realize Roswell didn't occur in the 70's. Just want do point that out before I get accused of such.
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Slightly off-subject but still interesting. Did you know that the majority of people in Iceland believe in elves or are not willing to rule out their existence? Sometimes roads or buildings are diverted if it is believed the elves will be disturbed.
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I think this would be a lot more interesting if Dr. Mitchell hadn’t shown a bias for the unexplained. He has been interested in psychic phenomena since before he was an astronaut and claims his unconfirmed cancer was cured by a psychic healer. That said he was a navy test pilot, a naval officer, a NASA official, and his doctorates is from MIT. Is he just expressing an opinion or is he claiming details that he was briefed or seen confidential documents?
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Well that depends on your viewpoints on 2 things:
1) Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.
>> Everybody knows that they didn't land on the moon until the mid-1980's .. it was all a hoax in the '60's and '70's .. perpetuated by the .. well,
2) FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission ... was 77
>> Well, I'm sure his mind must wander a bit.
I believe that "aliens" exist and could have visited our world because it's an awfully big universe but .. why would they come here?-
I'm not a subscriber to the moon landing hoax scenario. I think it happened. I can't imagine we would've undergone the trials and tribulations of the tests to get there.
Yes, I know all of the supposed proof - the shadows, the wind, all of that jazz. I've just (in my opinion) seen ample explanation for each.
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Here's what I think is another related new story: www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,24069817-5001021,00.html
And the Kerrang! Radio interview: www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160&spid=
Dr Edgar Mitchell was on the moon with Alan Shepherd - and I still say that the Galactic Protectorate / Shepherd impersonator story is as plausible as some of the thing I've heard over the years.
BTW, this has been a fun thread. Thanks. -
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Could be. Not likely, since this is just one of the dozen Apollo astronauts who walked on the moon - and of the eighteen who either walked on the moon or orbited it for an extended period.
Unless he's particularly susceptible, I'd think that there'd have been some sort of exotic perceptions showing up in the others, too.
There are more mundane explanations - and I don't know enough of Dr. Mitchell to guess what's less improbable:- Cynical view:
Dr. Mitchell is cashing in on his position, with what could be a lucrative series of books, videos, interviews, and speaking engagements - Physiological view:
Space radiation, something in the water where he lives, paint from the remodeling job - whatever it was, scrambled his brain and now he's remembering things that didn't happen- Or, intriguingly, he's accessed one of those templates that may exist in our visual cortex - it's been pointed out that quite a few of the space aliens have a remarkable resemblance to babies: big heads, big eyes, no nose to speak of, tiny mouth - and that the 'space alien' sightings may be a result of people's brains imposing the templates on what they remember --- interesting idea
Or, who knows: They may be keeping us from knowing that brain-sucking aliens are waiting for us to get numerous enough to warrant a harvest.
Pleasant dreams. - Cynical view:
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check this out for full story www.ufoblogger.blogspot.com
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Louis Farrakhan - leader of the "Nation of Islam"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan
The section on "The mother plan and Ezekiel's Wheel" is what I'm referring to. You'll see references to the "original scientists" in the wiki article (I know, I know - it's wiki) - if you dig deeper to other sources, you'll see all kinds of claims, particularly one about a certain group living on the moon whose scientists created white people.
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@Ender & TSR
Regarding fairies (which is surprisingly baffling me on how to spell correctly):
This thread over at my friend Raincoaster's blog has what has to be the record for WordPress comments. I love it - you may enjoy some of our banter on there. Doubtless your comments would be awesome!
raincoaster.com/2007/04/01/mummified-fairy-remains-found/ -
Well if that is true and there is a disclosure, I hope that we receive the correct information and not the misinformation package . The info given would no doubt be only a miniscule piece of the whole picture. Many of the small ones are usually androids.. like my friend RTD2 but with better personalities. I can't believe that a guy like that would say so little.
And it's true that NASA doesn't track ufo's, that is done by they other agencies and information is not shared.
But really what difference does it make if there is a cover up, what benefit would it be that there were extra terrestrials from outer and inner space walking around the earth. If there is, there is still no change in the way humans interact with each other.
The fact that any person alive today doubts the existence or does not know somebody that has had contact with aliens is incredible to me.
The misassumption that is going on is that they are all the same, from the same place, with the same agenda.
And even if a Venusian or somebody/ some entity visited the Whitehouse, what difference would it make
I think what is more important is getting our own little human species together and just enjoy the beauty of the stars (if you can see it through the smog) with or without odd looking neighbours.-
I don't doubt aliens, I just break down the potential for us to have physical contact with them using something similar to Sagan's method.
You'd have to figure out how many stars there are - how many of them we think have planetary systems/orbits stable enough to support life in order for intelligent life to form - how many of those actually develop life - how many of those then develop intelligent life - how many of those develop the technology for space travel - and then the big kicker, how many of them are in existence at the same moment in space-time as us (as opposed to say a million "years" ago).
My guess is that life is prevalent in the universe - but the prospects of us making contact with intelligent life in our history I think are a bit debatable. I think we grossly underestimate the vastness of space and time. -
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Another post: a rather promising interactive panorama of the Apollo landing sites: www.panoramas.dk/moon/mission-apollo.html
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there a ron howard documentary. i think it's called "other side of the moon" or "shadow of the moon" anyway, i think i know who that astronaut is. he mentions his ET encounters and nasa coverups. pretty amazing.
I personally believe that there are intelligent being that live outside of our solar system. but at the same time, i doubt that we'll come into contact with them in our lifetime. intelligent human existence is a small fraction of a fraction of the timeline of the universe. It seems highly unlikely that we'd cross paths. -
I am not into Aliens, but was watching Larry King one night and there were three different people on, can't remember who I was semi asleep, talking abut Aliens and how they have been here for years and the government knows about it.
Similar instances as Rosewall in Japan only Japan has been taking advantage possibly of alien technology for years on and on.
There are even those who think the Aliens are......us,,,,,come back in time........
yea seriously.
Of course there are other forms of intelligent life, do you really think we are the only inhabitant of the universe, or the most intelligent.
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I believe in a government coverup of the knowledge of(and perhaps the contact with) aliens. I also believe there's been a persistent campaign to paint the whole subject as something to ridicule, so that people who value their respectability and reputation don't try to investigate the facts. There is a world-wide opinion that people who are interested in ufos etc are loonies. It shows in some of the posts here - people don't dare talk about the subject without making it a joke.
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I don't mind if there's a cover up, it doesn't really matter. All it means is we can comfortably go about our business thinking we are highly intelligent and are superior to all other creatures terrestrial or extra t. We don't have to consider that it is important to embrace the diversity that exists in mankind, we can assume we've got it together and the Governments can go about their business stealing money from the populace for their own personal contingency plans.
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Lucy, I don't think it's a good idea to really on any Government to educate a person about UFO's and Aliens, in the same way it is not such a good idea to rely on the mainstream media as a source of news or a church/religion to educate us about God.
The problem with ET and other phenomena is the more you investigate the more complex, diverse and unbelievable it becomes. It is an area of misinformation, nut cases, private agendas for and against and the jyou investigate, it gets to the point where Truth is stranger than fiction.
The human brain at this point of its evolution is not yet capable of embracing many of the concepts relating to other worldly life.
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FOLLOW UP INTERVIEW
blog.blogtalkradio.com/2008/07/24/dr-edgar-mitchell-sets-the-record-straigh... -
haha that picture is hilarious! that just made my day after a long painstaking day of work. I personally don't believe in aliens never have and never will until i see one myself. . but to all of you guys that do MORE POWER TO YOU haha do your thing. I think i will now go home and make myself a tin foil hat and borrow your idea.
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