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Obama should tax the Big Companies not the small entrepreneurs
Posted by elitethinker • 5/10/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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Of course it will be the other way round !
That's why his program will fail and his popularity will faint when people will realize that he's just one more puppet in the hand of the Super Riches who own these Big Companies in the whole world.
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Anyone seen the "Obama Deception" yet? I fell asleep halfway through. Jones can scaremonger and his mastery of history is sometimes debatable, still some interesting bits for the unaware.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw-
Don't like the title and the beginning but finally content is interesting ...
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Everybody should pay a fair share.-
"Fair" ? The problem is who decide about "fairness" : wall street and the bankers with the power of gov
Since Wall Street or Gov are hand in hand trying to steal my money, I'm going to Wall Street to take it back in my pocket that's why I wanna be a trader -
flat tax, percent based.
I decided
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If the government wants to raise more taxes it should lower tax rates all around. What that does is stimulate those who hire people, which is small business, and it gives people more money to spend in those small businesses. By doing so more taxes are raised because more people are working and spending.
The reason government doesn't do that is they want control. Freedom is always a bad word in the eyes of big government.-
I don't think we have to look further that we work for people at the top of Gov and Big Corporates (they are moving from one side to the other and conversely) so they "have" to collect our money (or their due ?) through several schemes - of course for our own good
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In an equal society, everyone would pay the same proportion of tax. That's kinda the point of having a percentage-based tax in the first place.
There are countless benefits to this arrangement. For one, the same percentage is not taking a larger chunk out of the poor's income. It's the same percentage. On the other end of the spectrum, instead of people slacking off so they don't go into the next tax bracket, they'd be more productive because the lump sum that they'd get out would be more (still paying the same percentage).
A Robin Hood-style tax system whereby the rich are taxed and the poor aren't results in more long term harm than the short term good it might bring about. This is purely because you'd have less people who'd want to be rich to avoid paying taxes, and hence more people reliant on the rich's taxes. Then you'd have to tax the rich more, because there aren't that many rich people and there aren't many corporations expanding that much because they want to prevent paying that much tax and it's a vicious cycle. Soon, there's nobody left to tax and then the poor are really in trouble.-
This is in economics book that was taught to me at school. Then I discovered that the Real World was not like that ... fairy tale and that tax always targeting the mass
This is logical since tax serves mostly to pay financial interests on the debts owed by gov to the banksters so how could it be different: that's logic 101 (I love Logic).
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A flat tax with no loopholes sounds good in theory, but a graduated tax seems to work best in reality. We still need to get rid of the loopholes, though.-
How to get rid of the loopholes ? Just make them legal
You all people have difficulty with the underlying AND FUNDAMENTAL PARADIGM: tax are not for the super riches because that's how the super riches are super riches, they live with the tax of the mass of people and use the power of gov and stock market to benefit from it, it's easy since they are in Gov. -
That's true, which is why a graduated tax makes more sense.
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Tax is based on ownership and do you know what's Rockefeller adage is ?
"I don't own anything but I control everything"
How ? They setup a smokescreen in the 1920s so called anti-trust law which supposedly dismanteled the Rockefeller, JP Morgan and other financial Barons and at the same time make a law on Foundations which are exempted from tax. Don't wonder why Bill Gates created his Foundation and why his friend Warren Buffet gave him 35 Billions over 40 Billions to Bill Gates Foundation ... and people and medias think it's about Saint Buffet making Charity what a great joke -
In pre-revolutionary France, they used to call that the "Second Estate"... you know what happened to them -
ka-keench
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I say we SHARE THE WEALTH! source:BARAK OBAMA on campaign trail-
should read through the bankster's propaganda who advise an ignorant president: we SHARE THE DEBT
www.tinyurl.com/zeigeist
$175000 of debt implicitely due by an american on average thanks to debt gov worst backed by nothing if your house is already a personal mortgage debt
Source: General Controller of the United States in this interview
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BkkXp0aTGo
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If the big corporations get taxed, they won't have money for Challenge Grants for Work Camp...er I mean Americorps.
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If they all microchip us and transform us into Robots it's possible we work for free ok not in near future
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Why oh why do we keep seeing threads from disgruntled right wingers who keep blaming everything on Obama? Are the people who post these threads so lacking in mental acuity that they totally discount the role of Congress in governance? Do they really believe that Obama is leading the country and making all the decisions all by himself? Is there not a single right winger out there posting these threads who knows what a fallacy is?
If not, then they should not be surprised if we conclude that they appear to be in training to become spin doctors, rather than becoming part of the solution to what ails America.
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It really comes down to ones own world view.
Do you believe its human progress to measure the advance of civilization across a broad, inclusive spectrum, or do you think civilization is best served by unequal opportunity and the exclusive right of the few over the many.
I always pause to consider that all the land and resources on the planet were not put here for the exclusive use of the few, but rather given equally to all. Most people are surprised to learn that this was the prevailing view in history until only about 500 years ago. Private property is still a relatively new phenomenon, but one we have built our society on.
I think there is a lot of room yet to bridge the greatest outrages of capitalism with a great deal more consideration for the declining assets of the earth, and the desperate inequality of access and opportunity amongst peoples across the planet.-
That's also a very AMERICAN point of view that you have expressed.
"The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on"--Thomas Jefferson
"Land, as before said, is the free gift of the Creator in common to the human race. Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society"--Thomas Paine (yes the same Thomas Paine that the tea-baggers loved so much)
it might well be said that the movement toward allowing land to be held in perpetuity (increasingly states have been moving from the Jeffersonian standar of 21 years to as much as 1000 years) is among the most un-american of all activities!
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Honestly i couldn't care less...
I worry if i ran out of Tabasco Sauce than what Obama or Osama is doing...-
you should care about things... it's good for you*
*actually, centuaginarians (100+ year-olds) always say "just go along with what they tell you, don't ask questions or think for yourself"... so maybe caring actually kills you, idk 0_o -
I still don't care... cos I'd be dead in another 30,067,200 seconds
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