Discussions
Oh hell no! Teacher sends kindergartner home with bag of poo
Posted by ArsenicCookies • 4/22/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: bizzare, teachers
So I am reading the news and come across a strange headline "Teacher sends boy, 5, home with bag of poo" so as a mother of a near 4 year old about to start school I had to read it. What the hell? www.komonews.com/news/local/43405212.html
I think this teacher was way out of line, besides that where in the hell was she when a 5 year old could go through all of the layers and pop a squat in the first place.
I find her actions negligent in that other children could have come into contact with it and I find it childish and down right malicious to send such a small child on a school bus with "evidence". People will surly make fun of him for this and that leads me to believe that it was an attempt to shame the child into better behaviour. No telling how the little dudes self esteem is going to be....
What say you?
User Comments
-
I take it that it wasnt homework?
Some people just shouldnt teach-
true
-
-
Somebody needs a mailbox full o' poo...maybe even a car full o' poo, I'd say...not that I'd condone such activity...-
haha, with a little note
-
-
That shows the teacher's lack of discretion. The child could have had a medical problem or an emotional problem. Instead of dealing with it as she should have she responded in a manner that made her look really bad. I'm shocked that the school didn't respond right away.-
"I"'m shocked that the school didn't respond right away."
I know right, I thought about that afterwards and I must say the dad is taking it very well... My oldest, the one who is about to start school this year he is very sensitive and I would have been marching my happy little behind down there demanding a response
-
-
Also to note that depending on what time of the day the kid did it, it could have been sitting in his bag for a while. Would have ponged out his bag as well as the class room. The teacher was really willing to take those risks just to prove a point.
The note could have been worded a little differently too -
Oh, I thought it was eco-friendly homework or something like that. -
teachers have a hard job.
this one deserves to be fired. ASAP.
there is NO excuse for this sort of behavior from an adult, much less a teacher. This is the sort of thing you might do if a neighbors dog crapped on your front porch and you wanted to be an ass about it - NOT what you do when a little kid has an accident.
Having taught little kids, it's no surprise that whatever goes into them comes out of them...often at inopportune times! -
I was a 5th grade teacher at one point and I remember cleaning up vomit with hot cheetos in it. It was gross but I felt bad for the poor kid! I can't imgaine bundling it up and sending it home in his backpack.
-
Isnt that what janitors are for?
-
bingo - the kids usually feel bad enough.
tiny little things will stick with a kid for the rest of his/her life.
-
-
Well, it was all over and it was either clean it up or try to teach with a foul smell in the room. I did call the janitor to come and get the trash though.
-
the smell never really goes away though does it - I used to work at a movie theatre. Between young kids watching the kids movies and drunk pre-teens I had my fair share of vomit clean up
-
-
But just think, now you can put that on your resume
-
Sometimes less is more on the resume, some experience I deny having out of fear that i get asked to do it again
-
-
mm mm mm what can u say,if there are teacher like that out there,no wonder all these kids are doing those school shootings!!!
school is supposed to be a safe haven for your kids,now with teachers like that who can they trust or turn to. -
I can remember teasing going on in school,but when it comes to adults acting like kids just like that lady who made a fake myspace profile and acting like a boy that this girl liked,and then told her really mean things posing as the boy... The little girl went a commited suicide.
parents aren't parents anymore,and teacher are so under paid that you can't actually get good teacher's to teach our kids then this is what happened -
I can guess what this teacher is getting for xmas -
Must be all the hanford radiation... or the inbreeding O_o-
must be some Washington state humor...
BTW, If you are planning a Spanish language immersion program, Pasco is a fine alternative to Yakima
-
-
In addition to the other things folks have added, I'd say the Board of Health will probably have something intriguing to share with the teacher about this one. -
That teacher wouldn't have a job if she did that to my kid!!! I would've flipped out literally! But then again most people by me know that I take absolutely no crap (no pun intended) when it comes to my kids. Not sure exactly what I would've done as my mind doesn't always catch up to my actions when mad but I will tell you she would be scared to do anything like this again to any other child. She would seriously regret her actions. -
I can't even think of a polite way to respond to this, outside of asking what the teacher had been smoking at lunch that she thought this was a good idea. I'd love to see some follow-up on the school's reaction. I would suspect that officials were as flabbergasted as I am by the situation. -
Oh...My...God.
I would be having a conniption, not waiting politely for the school to "get back to me on it".
WTF? 5 year olds still have accidents, it happens - I can't believe a teacher would "punish" a student like that for having a freaking accident. I...Ugh....
Reason number 1656875451354986934354347 of why I'm homeschooling.-
yea,that's a good idea!!!
-
-
Another example of why I hate humans in general.
This "teacher" should have her nose rubbed in it
softmelon.wordpress.com -
"so son, what'd you do in school today?" -
I am watching this one for some follow up, and waiting to see where the Health department is going to come in. There are so many diseases that could have been spread, not to mention the mental effects on the boy. I don't know how the daddy is doing it, but much like the other mom's here... I am certain that this woman would have had hell to pay had it been my boy... I can think of a few things I would do, but at least 2 would end up with some sort of disorderly conduct fine....
-
I can't believe this! I am a parent and if anything like this happened in my kids' school, I would raise hell about this and expect the teacher to be fired. I know teachers are usually underpaid and overworked but to take it on that little boy is just unfair!
I would understand the teacher's frustration if this was an event that was repeated often by the same boy but I doubt that a 5 year-old boy would do this out of meanness (even though the fact that the poo was on the floor would suggest the boy would have taken the trouble of getting out of his clothes before doing it); it could be a medical or psychological problem on the boy's part and sending him home with a bag of poo in front of all the other children would certainly not diminish the problem.
Getting rid of the poo hygienically and calling the parents for a meeting would be more appropriate. -
This seems unreal in this day and age that a teacher would do something like this.. I think I would have written several letters to the local medias naming the teacher and the school. So even if the school chose to do nothing about it... other parents would be aware of what's going on in their child's classroom. -
UPDATE: to add more reasons to smack the chick, the child apparently has special needs...
-
*blood boiling*
-
-
Between this and those pedophiles down in the Safford United School District, I'd say these people are looking to de-stress in one of those cushy "Rubber Room" chairs
-
Where are they finding these teachers? Incompetence R Us?
-
they find the ones who are "registered" so they can pay less
-
-
two kids have been sent home with broken bones since the beginning of the year at my nieces school. The bones had been broken in morning gym class and were not seen told to suck it up. They weren't seen to until the kids had finished school and had complained to their parents about the pain.
-
yeah, I had something simular with a bout of Osgood Schlatter's disease-- "It's all in your head Johnny!"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osgood-Schlatter_disease
All in all, its just a 'nother brick in the wall -
Homeschooling is as good or bad as the parent homeschooling the child. I've known kids who were homeschooled who didn't get a good education and were vastly behind. But that isn't an indictment on homeschooling. Parents that use the opportunity for the betterment of the child's education can make it a wonderful experience. One of my friends homeschooled her daughter until she was able to afford a private school. Her daughter had done so well in homeschooling that she entered the private school a couple of academic levels ahead.
-
-
Hey, as a homeschoolin' Mom, these threads are justifying every argument I've ever made to defend my choice to homeschool Punky.
That's scary. -
no sh~t! Where else would you send them, Catholic school?!
-
I don't mean to offend by saying this - but the only downside to homeschooling would be the socializing wouldnt it be, leaning and working in teams of kids their own age.
There are pros and cons to both -
there are people that don't fit in at school too... they usually end up being someone's boss later in life
-
Yeah, that's a common myth/misconception about homeschooling. There are some people who lock their children away - but there are more than a few great local programs that children can and are entered into for teamwork skills, socialization, and exposure.
Furthermore, while kids in regular schools are being socialized with their peers only, kids in homeschool environments are learning to interact, work with, and socialize with various age groups, from the youngest in the family/group (babies) to the elderly. Kids in homeschooling environments tend to have a much easier time working or starting careers because they can fit in and work with any age group, skill set, or level.
They also learn valuable self discipline and decision making lessons whereas kids in schools are forced to bend their wills, ideas, and abilities to the lowest common denominator, at the behest of an authority figure. I find that most kids who learn this way tend to resent authority, rather than learning to work collaboratively.
But that's just me. -
I agree with you on this subject Anok..
Homeschooling is very beneficial to the child, and the parents too. They have more control of the curriculum then if the child is in public school getting whatever that school can afford. Which isn't sufficient in most cases.
And they are free to travel with the parents on vacations and what-have-you anytime, so they are exposed to more then the classroom films on far away places etc etc.. -
May be a stupid question, but do you get government assistance when homeschooling children?
-
And they don't GET exposed
-
Arcticules - yep! Plus they have more time (better schedules) to interact and engage in group activities, field trips, and topic specific lessons than schooled children.
Granted - not all kids do well in a homeschool environment, and not all parents do well homeschooling their children, so that should always be taken into consideration.
Sam - I'm not sure what you mean by government assistance, as in vouchers or funds for equipment and such? No, there's no program/funds for that. But as far as I know there are no restrictions placed on parents who homeschool as far as income assistance, grants, etc is concerned.
Edit - Oh Agit8r!
-
What I mean is - here, for example I get assistance from the government ( otherwise known as a benefit ) In which the government subsidises the costs of sending my daughter to daycare because with my income and my partners income combined we are considered to be low income earners. Not that we are considered to be poor, but if we can get help why not take it.
Now, what I was getting at is that im assuming that in order to homeschool you'd only be living on a single income. And yeah, I was wondering if the supplies and stationary were all out of your own pocket? Because I know it seems like some people treat public schools like a daycare center too, they choose public school over homeschool because both parents have to work. Homeschooling would be more ideal If there was some sort of "help" for those who wouldnt survive on a single income -
No, there's no benefit like that at all. Although the beauty of homeschooling also means that you don't have to be single income, or restricted t working during school hours/aftercare hours either.
Homeschooling requires a great deal less time or "credit hours" because you move at very fast speeds. You can tailor the day/lessons/ curriculum to be a few hours every day, all on one day, nights, weekends, whatever you need.
So you might work, say, 40 hours between Monday & Thursday, and your wife works an equivalent from Friday to Sunday (or whatever).
It's really flexible. Of course, it gets more flexible as your child gets older (or if you have multiple children, with older siblings). You can also have group sessions so many times per week, and simply trade off on who will be monitoring/teaching it.
It's great for people with alternative lifestyles, freelancers, work at home etc and so forth. -
Yeah, a lot of the more rural areas of hobbiton, do the homeschooling thing. But 90% of the time its hands on - you're born on the farm, you learn on the farm, you work on the farm, you take over the farm and have your own family and the cycle begins again.
My daughter needs the interaction I think, shes very much monkey see monkey do and the age gap between her and her two brothers is too great, so she needs the interaction of other kids at Daycare. -
Oh interaction - definitely. Your child will get loads more interaction at a day care than she will in a school though. Daycare is like an all day craft fair/ playdate. School is not. School time (even for Kindergarten now) is sit down, be quiet, don't fidget, learn.
That's not the way children were designed to learn - small children, I mean. This year I found us a nice little summer camp for Punky - enrollment is $20 for the whole thing, and it's a few hours, everyday this summer. Punky's going to get a lot more interaction out of that than a rigid classroom. -
Can't complain about a $20 summer camp. Thats a really good deal.
I think there is a slight difference in how US schools work and how NZ schools work - First of all, the school year starts Jan and ends in December, Kindergarten starts at age 4 but most go to daycare before that although it is optional. Sophie started daycare when she was 3months old, she's 2 in may and already knows her ABCs 123s and her vocab just blows my mind, she's also pretty independent with going to the toilet by herself. So by the time she goes to school at age 5 she'll be well ready for the learning environment, which by the sounds of it, isnt as strict as the US, they're encouraged to talk amongst one another and ask the teacher for help etc so long as the noise isnt out of hand. There is a lot of play involved and quite a bit of "hands on" activity involved too. Reading and spelling is again followed up at home as homework, which obviously needs the assistance of a parent or adult.
-
-
it's funny how this conversation popped up. I was just talking about that today w/my daughter's teacher.
The only thing is socialization. kids need that soooo bad,it's such a slap in the face or culture shock when they get into the real world.
very hard decision to make-
I Just addressed that with this comment:
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/oh-hell-no-teacher-sends-kindergartner-ho...
Unless you're locking your children away in a tower, they will be socialized, and, hopefully with more than just one age group. Of course, you do have to make that happen - you have to enroll your children in groups, camps, activities and so forth.
But I really honestly think that the whole "you need school for socialization" thing is way overstated and untrue. School is for learning, not socialization. The kids aren't interacting (socializing) with each other all day, or for even half of the day, and when they do, they get into trouble for it.
With the removal of so many extra curricular, and after school activities, sports, etc... the kids aren't getting socialized really at all. Even recess is on the chopping block right now. -
tru that
-
Good points Anok.
-
It's very wrong that so much of "real life" resembles high school!
-
-
the only thing that scares me about public schools is indoctrination,u know. I don't like being told how I need to raise my kids.
like the whole be your kids friend kind of thing.-
Our schools here are beyond reprehensible. Our state's educational ranking doesn't even hit the top 50% last I checked, and our local schools are way, way, way down at the bottom comparatively speaking.
I'm very scared of our schools here - for a lot of reasons
-
-
u and me both,not to mention the medal detectors as they get older!
-
Remember the nipple ring incident at the airport?
-
-
It's hard to get rid of a teacher if they are in a union and tenured. The teacher might just get transferred to a different school with a reprimand. Well see how this plays out.
Regarding the comments about home-schooled kids not being socialized. These kids have play groups, get=togethers with other kids and go to the park etc. They do not live in a bubble! I hear the same assumptions about only children. My daughter has been in full time daycare/school since she was 3 months old. Spending a full day with 20 or more kids Monday through Friday for her whole life is plenty of socializing experience. -
I don't know it's just a very hard choice to make.
-
I clicked through to the news report and found this:
Jason says his son's teacher, Mrs. Graham, called last Friday and said her classroom was "stinky." She asked if the boy could have had an accident.
Jason acknowledged the possibility, as his son had had a couple of accidents in the classroom in the past. He told Mrs. Graham there were extra clothes in his backpack.
Jason never imagined the teacher would send his son home with evidence of his accident.
Was the teacher out of line for sending the turd home in a plastic bag in the backpack? My answer is "yes".
Does the teacher deserve to lose a job for doing so? My answer is "no". A promise not to repeat this is all I would require.
Now let's turn our focus to the kid in question. Has anyone caught onto something else here? This kid has had more than one classroom turd dropping incident. It sounds as though this has happened 3 times.
Perhaps his parents ought to be making some adjustments to his feeding and toileting routines at home so his bodily functions are more in line with him dropping turds prior to school hours, during recess, during lunch time or after returning home. Perhaps he is shy and needs to become aware of how to put up his hand immediately when the "need to go" feeling first comes upon him in the classroom.-
No where in the article does it say that the kid was actually responsible though. All it says is that it is a possibility.
-
I'm not faulting the kid. I'm saying maybe he needs help. If he is a special needs student he may even need to have an aide in the classroom with him. And I'm hoping that everyone will NOT be so focused on verbally beating up the teacher that he won't get it.
Granted that kids who do not have special needs may have an accident at the age of 5, but that would be a rare event. It seems that it's possible that this may not have been a one time event.
Also in Canada teachers teach; they do not clean up turds, wash bums and change childrens' clothing. If kids cannot do their own toileting, cleaning up and clothes changing they get classroom aides, who are with them in the classrooms attending to their special needs so the teachers can teach.
-
-
At the age of 5 my son is required to bring extra clothes to school "just in case." This child could have food allergies or other issues and the parents wouldn't know it. The fact that the poop was sent home is gross and ecoli can be spread to other children due to the negligence of the teacher. Ecoli kills in someone with a weak immune system.
My own son has had accidents at school and I would be giving ____ if he came home with a cup of urine. -
Yeah, and guess what, I live about 30 minutes away from that school. I wanna go over there and just bitch slap the crap outta her and then tell her to sit in the corner and think about what she's done after they fire her ass.
buzz buzz -
parents aren't parents anymore,and teacher are so under paid that you can't actually get good teacher's to teach our kids then this is what happened-
that's my point exactly fikrinne!!!!
It doesn't matter if the kid had an accident every single day,the teacher is an adult! You help the child,not act like the child! DUH!!!
-
Add Your Comment
Login to leave a message.
