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PALESTINE vs. ISRAEL "Will there ever be peace"?
Posted by CallAChristian • 1/11/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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The National News has broadcast a play by play of the latest round of fighting in the Middle East between two peoples which have been caught in conflict for thousands of years.
Biblical prophecy states that this is where its all going to take place (in the Valley of Decisions)and will determine world history.
I'm 49 years old, and have been reading, or watching news on this very subject. What gets me is the question, "who are the real terrorist"? "who belongs where"?
If the Hamas continues their bombing of Israel and thinks that they can hide behind the innocent while Israel is making attempts to stop the Hamas from their offensive against Israel.
On the other hand their are the Israelites with their offensive against Gaza.
Will there ever be peace?
It seems that this conflict will never end.
HISTORY OF ISRAEL— The ancient Hebrews were just one of a number of nations living in the ancient Near East. This region of the world included ancient r be peace?Persia, Mesopotamia (the area between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers), Syria, Anatolia, Palestine, and Egypt. Each of the nations in the area experienced at least one period in its history when it was more powerful or influential than its neighbors. But the nature of empires is such that each of them was destined to fall and to be replaced by a society that was more aggressive than those it overthrew.
The first of these great empires was that of the Sumerians. It consisted of about a dozen small city-states located in southern Mesopotamia in an area about 245 kilometers (150 miles) northwest of the Persian Gulf. The Sumerians established the first high culture in human society in the fourth millennium b.c. They made fundamental discoveries in many important areas of life. They were at their height when a person named Sargon founded an aggressive culture at Agade, some 128 kilometers (80 miles) northwest in central Mesopotamia, adopting much of the Sumerian culture.
Sargon’s dynasty was overthrown ultimately by a nation that was itself conquered after a century of rule by a powerful Babylonian king named Hammurapi (about 1792–1750 b.c.). During Hammurapi’s reign, the Sumerian cities were conquered and the First Dynasty of Babylon was established in Mesopotamia.
PALESTINE [PAL ess tyne] — the land promised by God to Abraham and his descendants and eventually the region where the Hebrew people lived.
Palestine (or Palestina) is a tiny land bridge between the continents of Asia, Africa, and Europe. The word itself originally identified the region as “the land of the Philistines,” a warlike tribe that inhabited much of the region alongside the Hebrew people. But the older name for Palestine was Canaan, the term most frequently used in the Old Testament. The Amarna Letters of the 14th century b.c. referred to “the land of Canaan,” applying the term to the coastal region inhabited by the Phoenicians. After the Israelites took the land from the Canaanites, the entire country became known as the “land of Israel” (1 Sam. 13:19; Matt. 2:20) and the “land of promise” (Heb. 11:9).
The term “Palestine” as a name for the entire land of Canaan, beyond the coastal plains of the Phoenicians, was first used by the fifth century b.c. historian Herodotus. After the Jewish revolt of a.d. 135, the Romans replaced the Latin name Judea with the Latin Palaestina as their name for this province. Although the prophet Zechariah referred to this region as the “Holy Land” (Zech. 2:12), it was not until the Middle Ages that this land became popularly known as the Holy Land.
Nelson's illustrated Bible dictionary
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Not if Israel has anything to do with it. -
And After that? I think you may have missed out the bit more recently where this whole area was dominated by Islamic Empire's.......-
For how long, and how did they obtain it?
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Try using a history book to get the actual history of the region.-
Which history book?
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www.jerusalemites.org/jerusalem/islam/29.htm
From A.D 638( with a short break during the crusades when it fell under christian rule who by the way barred Jews from the city of Jeursalam)until the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War 1.
At this point the whole area came under British rule. The people in the area now known as Isreal helped the British defeat the Germans during World War 1. For their help the British promised the people in that area the chance to rule themselves.
At the same time a group of Jewish lobbyists where campaigning for a homeland for the Jewish people.
The second World War then erupted and as it finished the allies discovered the crimes commited by Nazi Germany towards the Jewish people and had thousands of displaced Jews to deal with.
The allies interned many of them on the island of Cyprus until they could decide what to do with them.
The British and the United Nations created Jordan and then partioned the area then known as Palestine between the indigenous people and the new state of Israel.-
Yes, and according to Benjamin Freedman, who was a negotiator at the Versailles "Peace" Treaty, Germany had offered a statu quo ante treaty to GB and France in 1916, but the Frankist bankers, who had been exclusively financing Germany, because they hated the Tsarist regime (who had ruined their plan for an ebauche of a world government at the Vienna Congress of 1815), switched sides and promised to have the USA join in, in exchange for the Balfour Declaration.
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Yes, they can have peace forever.
As long as both side throw away all old files, then peace will come. Leaders from both side must willing to have this type of new mindset, then peace will come. -
What about Prophecy?
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God gave that whole area to the Jewish People. Thats it. Said and done! It is a small piece of ground that is the most look at area in the history of man, I wonder why?-
Wake up and smell the hoax! The Bible was rewritten (Scofield version) so that gullible Xtians would believe this.
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So why wasn't it a Jewish land then? Why was it in Arab hands for a thousand years?
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Great stuff as always harveyavatar!! -
If people go non religious in that area then they'll have peace.-
Actually this is a land and political war between Zionists and Hamas. Not really religious. Jews and Muslims live side by side in nearly every country in the world peacefully.
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That part of Asia is rather volatile. The Uno or any other organizations are not working towards peace. Everyone seem to be enjoying the round of cross firing, shelling and bombing. The Us is with the Israel and as long as the Us is with the Israel i dont think any other powers will throw their hats to solve the problems. Lebanon does not seem to be active though it is sympathetic to the Palestinians. The problem is a bit tricky but we have not handled the problem in right earnest. what was the use of Nobel peace prize when peace is eluding. The tempo and airs were not sustained. Divide the country and let palestine become a new country independent of Israel. And let these people learn the value of brother hood and existence. What Hamas is doing is nothing but a variation of ethnic cleansing.
Media please dont cover these Nonsense and let no Indian or any other people know About the Hamas. Let the space and time of the media be devoted for other constructive issues. The Hamas is gaining undue advantage by being given publicity. Israel should observe restraint.
When the war will end and we will be able to breath fresh air unpolluted by terrorism and its sisters.
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How many Palestinian women, children and old men will be sacrificed on the altar of religious zealotry? When will Israel be appeased enough to stop murdering them? -
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Actually this is a land and political war between Zionists and Hamas.
I wish I had read the whole thread before I posted but I didn't.
I now appreciate what you have said.
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@avante - you're perpetuating a misinformed reality regarding humans as a species that wars are only fought based on differences in religious dogma. The Korean and Vietnam War are the most recent evidence that wars are often fought without the heed of religion. Indeed, there are numerous other precedents found throughout human history, in all the various parts of the world, that demonstrate that religion does not exclusively beget war, nor is there any evidence to rationalize the argument that a world free of religion would mean a peaceful one.
Humans have fought wars over territory, natural resources, as a method to distract the population from more pressing and urgent local issues, etc.
Instead of blaming a philosophical concept - which is essentially what religion is - we must acknowledge the true nature of humans to resort to combat to settle disputes or gain an upper advantage over our neighbours. Only then would we have a chance to perhaps improve ourselves because we're being honest about why we resort to such measures in the first place.
As the philosopher Santayana said "Those who remain ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it."
Regardless, I sincerely hope that this violence ends soon since in the end, it's the innocents on both sides who are paying the price for all of this.
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