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PETA won't stop sxploiting women

Posted by gingerbeer25 • 8/11/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: animal cruelty, animal rights, feminism, peta, women

In PETA;s latest campaign they have a nude Amanda Beard (olympian) posing naked saying she'd rather be naked than wear fur. How does exploiting women end animal cruelty?
www.womanist-musings.com/2008/08/amanda-beard-peta-and-olympic-pussy.html

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8/11/08

DrowseyMonkey

I think they had Bea Arthur naked in one of their ads ... I'm not sure that's exploiting women ... but it wasn't pleasant.

I also don't think nakedness always equals exploitation. PETAs just using the old 'sex sells' routine.

How about that soccer player naked? Beckham? I'd rather that.

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8/11/08

drjay1966

These are the people who asked the Hamas to make sure there weren't any animals around when they did suicide bombings, asked Timothy McVeigh to eat a vegetarian last meal, have compared chicken farming to the Holocaust and cattle raising to slavery. They don't seem to have many limits in terms of what they'll do for attention.

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1. 8/11/08
  
  blackzedd
  
  Agreed. Poor Col Sanders..he must be the Fuhrer by now..
8/11/08

voodooKobra

www.howtonotsuck.com/viewarticle.php?id=54

I'm not a fan of PETA, and either is this guy.

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1. 8/11/08
  
  Anniepooh
  
  That's good.
2. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  Neither am I. Their disinformation regarding seal clubbing was enough to put me off. They make about $25 million a year though, for doing nothing but bitching and moaning.
8/11/08

MadameX

Do you think Olympic athletes are that easy to exploit? Do you really believe that a woman with the strength and discipline and focus to reach that goal is incapable of making a good decision about how she wants to make a point about an issue she feels strongly about?

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8/11/08

gingerbeer25

PETA uses woman and young ones all of similar body type..if they were interested in pushing a message of equality they would use women of all different sizes and ages as well as use images of women. The fact that they stick to a specific model for their campaigns leads me to believe that they are exploiting.

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1. 8/11/08
  
  DrowseyMonkey
  
  Peta used Bea Aruther, she's like over 70! lol It wasn't pretty.
  
  And sex sells, why use someone the majority of the public see as unattractive to promote your message. Besides, PETA has done some pretty wacky things for publicity, naked women is the least offensive in my opinion.
2. 8/11/08
  
  MadameX
  
  And you don't think it's at all insulting and demeaning to this obviously strong and accomplished athlete that you don't credit her with the ability to make intelligent decisions of her own for her own reasons and label her as a victim because she made a choice you don't agree with?
3. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  No MadameX, just because she has the strength to be an athlete, the focus to persevere through pain to achieve her goals and the will to sacrifice everything in her life to be one of the most accomplished athletes in the world doesn't change the fact that shes a dumb girl who can't think for herself and needs someone else to tell her she is being taken advantage of. Maybe she needs a husband, or better yet a pimp to keep her from making these awful choices.
  
  Poor girl.
4. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  I'll believe in equality when someone in a wheelchair wins the breast stroke at the Olympics. Not the para-Olympics, the real thing.
5. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Dlowe I choked on my coffee reading your comment
8/11/08

jackpayne

Doesn't P.E.T.A. mean People Eating Tasty Animals?

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1. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  Well, that makes much more sense. I always thought they had something to do with animals, because the hot, thin, sexy ladies made me go GRRR!
2. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Hey, it's not all girls...Ron Jeremy actually did a pose for PETA.
3. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  Yes, but he didn't make me go GRRR! I guess there's a double standard. A double size standard and a whole different standard for men.
4. 8/12/08
  
  legbamel
  
  Yeah, he elicits more of a GAAAK than a GRRRR.
8/11/08

gingerbeer25

I won't disagree with you DM that PETA has done terrible things to get attention but that still does not minimize their exploitation of women or make it anymore acceptable.

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1. 8/11/08
  
  DrowseyMonkey
  
  I guess, I just don't see this as exploitation of women. Just being nude doesn't make it exploitative. I think she looks rather lovely. Very healthy and it's not sexualized.
8/11/08

pumpkinlights

I am a big supporter of animal rights, but not of PETA.

I have to say though that artistic nudity is not exploiting.

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8/11/08

ttiger

so this is the next battle extreme feminist fighting against naked animal lovers..

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1. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  No, only the hot, slim naked animal lovers. If they were disgustingly fat and costing the slim ones who slave at the gym to conform to the social meme that healthy people are hot millions in health care costs worth of tax money, they wouldn't be exploited. Of course, they would be exploiting those who actually take care of themselves, but who cars? Everyone is equal, whether you take up one seat in the aeroplane or three.
2. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Hey, it's not all girls...Ron Jeremy actually did a pose for PETA.
3. 8/13/08
  
  ttiger
  
  ron is an animal himself : an hairy bear with a 10 inchs shlong
8/12/08

mantiz

I hated it when they used alicia silverstone.

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8/12/08

flamingpoodle

I was born naked. Damn mother nature for exploiting me by not birthing me with pants!

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8/12/08

thebigandyt

How can this be sexploitation, who is this add aimed at? If they've aimed it at us men then they've missed their demographic. i can't remember the last time i bought fur

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8/12/08

dlowe

First off thanks for posting the picture on your site. Second, I remember you saying in a different article that you shouldn't tell people they are exploited if they don't feel exploited.

Can you think of anymore buzzwords or acronyms? Seriously, sexploitation?

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8/12/08

RTBjr73

In my mind, Amanda Beard is a role model, ESPECIALLY for girls. That woman had excelled in mind, body, and soul. She is a great athlete, she is intelligent, and a caring person.

I have no problem with a smart, intelligent, strong person making a decision like the one Amanda Beard made in posing for PETA, or ANY smart intelligent, mature adult for that matter.

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8/12/08

alexmcone

All right look - I really cant get with this. They're not being exploited. They are told what they have to do and they are probably paid for it. If the models feel like they're being exploited then they probably will reject.

When the models themselves comply with the presentation I fail to see how that is exploitation. It may offend some people but in this day and age everything offends.

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1. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  I will tell you what offends me...hearing about Miley Cyrus, a young teenager, posing scantily for a big time magazine. Now THAT is more exploitation than a grown and mature woman posing for PETA.
2. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  Yes, because she's a teenager. Although she probably knows what she's doing but still - she's a teenager.
  
  PETA is not exploiting women. Period.
3. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  I find it offensive that Billy Ray Cyrus was allowed to breed.
4. 8/12/08
  
  pumpkinlights
  
  Although she probably knows what she's doing but still -
  ___________________________
  
  Miley is a tool. She does it to herself. Every other week she has new "private" pics being spread around. She does it to get attention.
  
  Her VF spread was no different. All the Cyrus' knew what they were doing.
8/12/08

creativebug

I guess the whole idea is to get attention to their campaign and mission. But I feel the message is lost in translation since at times I feel they are competing with Playboy or even Maxim.

Recently they signed up an actress (Jiah Khan - www.jiah-khan.net/) who is a non-vegetarian. But since she is very sexy, hence pose for them. And I thought PETA was against killing animals for meat besides fur.

For me I don't care as long as I get to see ARTISTICALLY Nude beautiful woman in the buff...Say no to Fur! Can you imagine all these models with body hair! EEKS!

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8/12/08

Anok

How is being nude = being exploited?

Not fer nuthin, but for all of the feminist concerns presented here on BC, most of the ones you've presented have been gross over reactions, in my opinion.

Are you looking for things to be angry about? Because there are more important - and pressing - feminist issues than where or not a woman can CHOOSE to use her body anyway she deems.

Which is an inherently feminist ideal - you know, being able to choose, not being shunned for her choices, not being blamed or victimized by society because we have breasts, and vaginas and *gasp* we might actually use them!

For all the talk about victimization, I see more victims being falsely created by the people who think they should be victims than the women who have chosen to do whatever it is that has caused the hubub in the first place.

She's a strong, intelligent, ambitious women who chose to make a point with PETA. PETA is not in the habit of kidnapping, coercing, or forcing women to strip naked at gun point to sell their ads.

No victim here, let's move on to more important topics, like whether or not a woman has the right to make reproductive choices for herself, or how to empower women, or how to get equal pay....

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1. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Anok, it's time for you to write about this on your blog...get going, woman!!
2. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  I think she's in one of her moods.
3. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  You know, I should. It's political, sort of, isn't it?
  
  Alex, you know me too well. I AM in a mood
4. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  @Anok "Are you looking for things to be angry about?" I say this every time gingerbeer posts.
  
  "we have breasts, and vaginas and *gasp* we might actually use them!"
  
  PUT THE VAGINA DOWN! (Through the police bullhorn)
5. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  LMAO
  
  It is a rather dangerous weapon, when used correctly, you know
6. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  Yeah, I tell you what, those things should come with a warning.
  
  They make people crazy! Women have them and you know they are loco! And just look at how crazy a guy gets when he gets near one or is under the influence of one.
  
  Dangerous!!
7. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  My wife just flashed me...she just dangerously exploited herself to me...GOTTA GO GUYS!!!!!
8. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Be careful RTB! Don't let your wife use her body as a weapon, lest she will feel exploited!!!
9. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  I don't give a shit...she's my wife for god sakes....and the kids are not here.
10. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Husband Exploits Willing Wife, When Will The Chauvinism Stop?
  
  News at ten highlights this new epidemic...stay tuned!
11. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  RTBjr73 - My wife just flashed me...she just dangerously exploited herself to me...GOTTA GO GUYS!!!!!
  
  5 minutes later
  
  RTBjr73 - I don't give a shit...she's my wife for god sakes....and the kids are not here.
  
  I think your wife might be a victim....of a HIT AND RUN!!!
12. 8/12/08
  
  crpitt
  
  Edited.
13. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Coming from a fellow man that's married like yourself...hell yeah baby!!!!!
14. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Certainly under appreciated, though
  
  Argh Claire! You should not have edited!
15. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  "and the kids are not here"
  All your base are belong to us.
  Make your time.
16. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  We have 6 hours to ourselves, however she is finishing up a report for work right now. :-)
17. 8/12/08
  
  crpitt
  
  @anok My joke was ruined so I removed it.
8/12/08

alexmcone

PETA exploits men when they put in Pamela Anderson on the ads.

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1. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  @alexmcone
  Good point. VERY good point! Lets get to who is REALLY exploited. Bravo alexmcone!
2. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Well, they exploit their wallets, and toy with their emotions, anyway
3. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Agreed, I would rather see Bea Arthur than that plactic gross thing of Pamela Anderson.
  
  At least Bea is a natural looking woman.
4. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  RTB - really ? My hands move on their own accord when I see Pam. I'm bewitched.
5. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  TMI! TMI!!!!
6. 8/12/08
  
  aningeniousname
  
  I'm with RTB here, hate that plastic Pam Anderson type.
7. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  Pipe down woman. Whats TMI ?
8. 8/12/08
  
  aningeniousname
  
  It means touch my intimates.
9. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Well, I don't think there is really anything intimate about Pamela
10. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  @ Anok - really ? Oh baby I knew you'd come back !
  
  @ RTB - I know she's plastic but I have a thing with tits.
11. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  I hate you Anin
  It means "too much information"
  
  ♥ Smootch!
12. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  Oh.
  
  Oh.
  
  I understand.
13. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  It's OK Alex, one of these days, you will get a bear hug from me.
  
  Then, you will run away
8/12/08

legbamel

So, the woman spends most of her life soaking wet, wearing next-to-nothing, and is on television around the world in a skin-tight wetsuit. Yeah, I can see how showing her naked is a big stretch. I mean, why shouldn't she have body issues like most women? Where does she get off, being happy with her insanely fit and toned body?

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1. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  ROFLMAO!!
  
  Good point legbamel
2. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  Preach on woman!
  
  And who does she think she is, being a role model and espousing the healthy body attained through proper diet and exercise?! Huh?
  
  I mean, the nerve of her showing a toned, well exercised body that is the epitome of health! All these young girls thinking about diet pills will now be inexplicably unable to stop themselves from going outside, and running, swimming, or exercising!
3. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  Wait, or we talking about amanda beard? Please say you are.
4. 8/12/08
  
  legbamel
  
  Good heavens, they might lift weights or [gasp] eat right. She must be stopped, I tell you!
  
  And, yeah, RTB, we are.
5. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  *Whew*
6. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  RTB - I just got what you were seeing LMAO..It took a minute. I should get more coffee.
  
  Legbamel I know! The nerve of some women!
7. 8/12/08
  
  alexmcone
  
  PAM RULES !!!
  
  www.pamelalee.blogspot.com
  
  (runs away)
8/12/08

RTBjr73

I'm ready for Dana Torres to pose for PETA...something about 40 something women who are moms, athletes, and smart.

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8/12/08

flamingpoodle

If Rosie O'Donnell posed nude for PETA, it would put a lot of people off food entirely:

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1. 8/12/08
  
  RTBjr73
  
  I think she already accomplished that.
2. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  Not only because she fought them for their food?
8/12/08

jjmezzio

I don't have any respect for PETA to begin with. SPCA has my respect.

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1. 8/12/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  I prefer KFC.
2. 8/12/08
  
  dlowe
  
  Now that's animal control!
8/12/08

Sylvia

Why are so many people scared of the naked body?

I actually love the Amanda Beard for Peta ad campaign.

I think it was very tastefully done, it does not offend me in anyway, what does offend me is how so many people find a reason to bash organizations that try to do some good in this world.

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1. 8/12/08
  
  Anok
  
  I find it amazing that women get offended when another woman chooses to show her body...and, in the name of feminism, immediately slaps a victim sticker on all the naughty bits
  
  I mean, isn't being able to be free (and nekked!) without scorn or reproach part of what the feminism movement was all about? I'm thinking about bra burning and all that good stuff
  
  Argh, I'm with your Sylvia, if getting paid to be nekked, or using your body to further a cause is exploitation, I can think of a whole lotta people who are going to be very angry when they find out they've been victims of an unscrupulous crime!
2. 8/12/08
  
  Sylvia
  
  lol.... Anok, I wish I could express myself as well as you do.
  
  I would do nekked Peta ads in a heart beat... for free!!!
3. 8/12/08
  
  Theresa111
  
  Sylvia, You've just got to love a lady who wears striped leg warmers and high heels. Well done.
4. 8/13/08
  
  flamingpoodle
  
  I wouldn't do any PETA ads. While I'd be flattered if anybody would pay to see me naked, I don't agree with the way PETA conducts itself.
  
  If the SAHRC (South African Human Rights Commission), the Free Market Foundation or the National Rifle Association wanted me to pose nude for them, I'd do it.
8/12/08

Katuluu

I'm more worried about their history of hiring arsonists then whether or not a few women shed their clothes for an ad campaign.

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8/12/08

Theresa111

I inherited my Mother's mink fur stole. Purchased in the mid 1960's. What should I do with it? I do not wear fur and just am at a loss as to what to do with it. It is in perfect condition, but I don't support fur in clothing anymore. Any tasteful suggestions?

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1. 8/12/08
  
  MadameX
  
  Give it to a homeless woman. Fur is mighty warm if you're sleeping outside in the winter.
2. 8/12/08
  
  Theresa111
  
  Nice thought. The only thing is that it isn't very practical. It pretty much covers the shoulders, as a suggestion and there are no arm holes. It is sort of like a shawl. Then there is the added possibility that someone might try to rob a homeless person with such an expensive garment. I wouldn't want that to happen, nor someone from PETA throwing paint on the wearer. I am always donating clothes and household goods to help the needy.
  
  Now that I think about it I believe there is an artisan who makes teddy bears out of old mink garments. I could do that and donate it to perhaps, Children's Hospital? What do you think?
8/12/08

cruzr

MMMM!!! MMMM!!! If there are two things I love its naked women and a big juicy steak.

This message has been brought to you by PETA(People for Eating Tasty Animals)

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