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Poverty is the root of war
Posted by johnlarrylimbo • 7/23/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: chaos, poverty, war
I am really wondering if this great crisis now of the world can result into a war. In which it can lead the earth to its total destruction.
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How about this: war is the root of poverty?
Or, poverty makes war on roots? (Think about it - that practically makes sense.)
I know: this is a serious discussion, but those lines were too good not to share. I'm off, now. -
There are so many things to be said about this statement. Full blown out war is a word that our government declares. Poverty leads to depression and lack of self-esteem this is not a guess this is a fact. When you are poor you do things to get a "high" to make you happy. Vandalism, drugs, fighting whatever. Not me personally I don't see the point in all that nonsense but I see it every day where I live. Poverty has nothing to do with war humans do
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Poor people don't wage war. War is expensive.
Most wars are for natural resources. Bush's Iraq war is a war for oil. Bin-Laden attacked us in part because he thought the Saudis were getting ripped off by selling oil too cheap. In WWII, Japan's motives were natural resources and the desire to achieve autarchy. -
Agree, poor people don't wage war. However, when there is a lot of ego hurts, injustice done, the roots are deeper - leads to depression,lack of self esteem and in some, instil hate and anger....the results - Poverty is also a root to war...war on human values, war within soul search, war with religions...depends on how one view it.
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Does anybody remember reading about the Weimar Republic? It was only the mid-20th century when the vanquished could look forward to reparations that would restore their economies. Prior to that, those who lost wars were enslaved, impoverished, even exterminated. Poverty is the result of war...greed and lust for power the cause.
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Great points violet. I agree it's fully a result of greed and lust. Theres really no way to fight over poverty. You can fight because you're pissed off but that really doesn't mean you are fighting because you are poor. You fight because you lust for more.
By the way, Is it just me or does everyone act like every little bump in the road these days is "THE WORST EVENT IN MANKIND!". Yes the economy has gone down, What do you expect, We had year after year of up markets. What's making it bad is the panic people have and how we act because of it which in turn makes things worse than they really are. -
Yah, just like every horrible crime is the "Crime of the Century"...until the next one comes along.
I believe people have become too lazy to think so they just believe whatever comes along...and the louder and more strident the screaming, the more they believe it. Panic born of hyperbole has overtaken rational and critical thinking.
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Sweet Violet has nailed it to the wall twice! The reparations demanded by the Allies after WW1 to rebuild Europe devastated Hindenburg and the infant Weimar Republic and allowed the growth of fascist groups resulting in the rise of the Nazis. The lessons gleaned then were... 1. The vanquished cannot be allowed to become a breeding ground for producing more world unrest. So, we must rebuild them and make them our allies as a buffer against other emerging powers (Read:Russia) 2. Propoganda works. The Germans refined the early American studies and were on the way to turning it into one of the most effective non-lethal weapons of war. We took over the studies after the war
and applied them to marketing consumer goods. At the same time we diverted enormous amounts of money, personnel, and capitalism instruction to the vanquished. Only the wealthy nations can afford the modern weapons of war
or those emerging nations who impoverish their own people to build war machines. The early, great, Greek Philosopher, Heraclitus said, "War is the father of us all." Perhaps he was right. Count Sneaky -
One good thing about a global economic collapse, is that nobody can afford the expense of a modern war. Economics has advanced to the point where the financial burden of war is well understood. Not gonna happen.
However, should the collapse continue, then there will be nation states who wage "economic" war in order to protect themselves and gain a larger share of a diminishing pot. That won't be promoted or driven by the poor - they will simply have to fight it - but rather by economic interests who stand to lose considerably from the contraction.
That's what economists are bracing for - protectionism and trade disruption. No one knows what will happen then, and as this is a brand new era, history is no guide. This it the "abyss" that guys like Bernanke, Greenspan, and others are always referring to.
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