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'Pregnant man' Male Pregnancy?!
Posted by dreesyach • 4/09/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: male pregnancy
Yes, being a pregnant man!
Like what has happened in Junior (1994), a comedy film that revolves around the world's first human male pregnancy starring by Arnold Schwarzenegger as part of a fertility research project -a male scientist agrees to carry a pregnancy in his own.
What do you think if a man be able to experience the same joy and excitement as a pregnant woman feels within?!
Further stories : dreesyach.blogspot.com/2008/04/bizzare-pregnant-man-male-pregnancy.html
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Am i wrong in thinking and being confused about this ?
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Ok Ender, you've got it! but anyway this thread is your thread's chain..
it's a transgender pregnancy..
So technically, isn't this still a female pregnancy?
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Wrong placement! -
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It's not a hoax, it's real. A woman became a man, however, she retained the ability to have a baby and thus is doing so. He is a FTM female to male person. Yes, it might seem "weird" to some popel, but for many people (up to one million of them in the United States alone)they feel as though they are not in the correct body. Some people who are born male feel as though they should be female and vice versa.. Get used to it. It's 2008, not the 1950's...-
This "man" is a biological female having a baby. In my world, it is natural. She had her breasts removed and went through hormone therapy and now calls herself a him. Nothing weird about a woman having a baby - except when the media sensationalizes the story, claiming a "man" had a baby. This "man" IS a woman.
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why is it every time this comes up your words sound so irritated, GG? the media sensationalizes things. it's annoying but a fact of life. why does this story irritate you so much? -
I agree with globalgirl which is media just making this matters hyperbole.
to greendigit:
Alrite, I accept, this is 2008. I'm seriously not against this gender issues/disorders.
And NOW, if this is true, on the news reports I've seen on youtube, they do say that all Mr Beatie had done was breast surgery and testosterone injections, if he had stopped taking his testosterone, wouldn't there be some kind of breast re-development? Especially with pregnancy?? Hm.. this one I'm having a hard time about.. why media blew this up. -
@ender: I would say because it shakes at the foundations of her conception of life and the universe. It's almost a defilement for her. Now maybe I'm overstating the case, but gender has been used to make a point about social chaos in the past. Take early conservative reactions to the French Revolution, for whom granting the right of divorce was nearly as offensive as founding a republic. Or take the petroleuses in the Paris Commune in 1870. Gay Gullickson has shown how these images of hags torching the city bore little resemblance to the reality, but they were effective propaganda against the Commune. The idea was not only that class structure was breaking down, but nature itself: women weren't acting like women. Of course, I'm talking gender stereotypes and not nature here, but I'm sure you know that, and I'm sure you can think of other examples from literature.
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Nope. Not irritated, simply letting people know that the person who is pregnant in this story is a woman, a fully functional biological woman! Fully natural! Women have a beautiful gift of reproducing life inside of our bodies. Truly inspiring.
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And gosh darn it, because it's all about immutable nature, we better say so loud and clear, lest someone not get the memo and some gender bending occur---again.
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This thread is hilarious.
"Gender bending" confusion. -
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it's not a hoax, but the genitalia is female. thomas beatie went off the testosterone shots two years prior to attempting pregnancy. if you are curious, check the oprah's website (not something i normally recommend) for a bigger look at the story.
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Well, I was shock when I first read the courtesy of malepregnancy.com -Mr.Lee. Thats why I think its only hoax.
Thanks ender..
I've checked Oprah, as a conclusion, this is not a man having a baby. Just because she is "legally" considered to be a man does not make her a man. -
yes, this is a confusing and complicated case in terms of sex/gender. the gender of the person is primarily male, but the biological sex is very much female.
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Maybe this short post on the difference between gender and sex will help: historysurvey.blogspot.com/2007/05/terminology-sex-and-gender.html
The former is a cultural (and here psychological) construct and the latter is all about biology. I know some people will be threatened by this, insofar as they think gender stereotypes are natural, god given. Ain't so though.
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This individual was born a female and went through the various processes to change to a man.
However, the female reproductive system was left intact.
Surgically, medically and aesthetically, this individual is a man.
Biologically, this individual is a female.-
Let's not forget identity (psychology and culture).
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so the million dollar question is - will the child call him/her mom or dad?-
Oh no, I feel sorry for the child brought into this situation.
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the child will call him dad, just as the wife's two children call him.
i do NOT feel sorry for the child, who is being brought into a loving home by people who want and will care for the child.
biologically thomas may still be female, however, he lives as a male and looks male. there's no reason to feel sorry for the child. -
Ok ok.. this thread must be playing on my mind, Oh gawd...this had me rollin!
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I tend to agree with you, Ender. I just worry about how viciously other kids may pick on him.
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kdawg - i admit, my concern is the publicity. without the publicity, who would know and who would really care? with the publicity, how many in the community are going to make sure their kids know how "weird" that family is?
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Ever consider the possibility that ignorance is learned and that children can deal with these seemingly complicated issues better than many adults seem able to?
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Good Lord if there has possibilities of children that can deal with these seemingly complicated issues-so many are truly lost in a distorted sense of thinking.
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The pregnant individual has indicated that the child will be raised to know him as the child's dad. That was last I heard, unless something has changed.
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IMO, that would make the child confuse a lot and affecting to his/her psychology...
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i doubt it dreesyach. far worse to be raised by a "traditional" family who does not care for the child as they should ...
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Sorry ender, I still think that this is very confusing to our children and especially when you say that a man is having a child or you are born naturally by your dad.
Yea I know, parenting is just needed as well for this matters. Maybe children will understand, more than we giving them credit for.
hehe.. but still I have my narrow mindedness.
I sympathize with their pain in trying and their desire to have a child. -
i don't understand why you find any of it amusing.
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No..no..no...
Maybe I need time to wrap my head around this. I just hope that the baby comes out okay.
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So anyone watch Oprah?
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Good luck to them, but I bet he/she wont have to pay for anything for many many years after the child is born. -
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you obviously don't understand the situation.
and it wasn't an amusing post.
the situation, i will admit, is confusing. however, someone who believes strongly enough that she is male as to undergo the removal of breasts is more than just a lesbian. a gay female does not need to go to that extreme. -
There.. you've got the same point as what I think about this, donlewis.
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Excellent answer ender. Exactly my response back to you (Except for the not funny part. That hurt.)
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Even though you disagree with me, but if male will be pregnant do you really think this will make sense?-
i don't understand your question.
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Emerson, for trans-gendered (female to male), yes be pregnant will make a sense.
As for a real man, biologically and anatomically, it's far beyond a sense -can say "preposterous".
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Sorry but i found this thread really impossible to discuss by discussing the impossibles. LOL
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Which impossibilities?
You didn't catch the main issues in here. Just thought I might let you know there is a life outside of your accustomed representation.
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You're cool man. Yeah, show me your references.I will give it a time to read. Thanks.
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The hormones are not the same, he is not chemically balanced to conjure the same emotions. I'm sure he will feel pain. But he will still not deliver a natural birth child. I pray him and the baby a long happy life. I really am skeptical if either may survive such an unnatural circumstance. I got to hand it to him, MAYBE NOT PHYSICALLY ANYMORE, BUT "he's got balls". And he's following his heart.-
Knowing that his body has no way to produce progesterone seems like he should have been taking it even before conception.
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she's just a really hairy woman who became pregnant. no more, no less.-
oh good lord.
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when first time i heard of it im shock.. is it possible to a man to bare a child? wah! but, really shes not a man, shes a girl who wish to be a man. but my thought is how did she got pregnant?-
read about it. he was artificially inseminated by an anonymous donor.
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It is physiologically impossible (so far at least) for a male of any species to become pregnant. That IS the main scientific distinction between the sexes.
"If wishes were horses, beggers would ride."
She may wish she were male, (Although I never quite understood that, as she was apparently in a lesbian relationship.)but it doesn't change the equipment.
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oh, "good lord" what, ender? am i wrong?
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If men carried babies, there'd be a whole lot less babies.
Anyone else remember Alien Nation? -
Oh, ok now I got it , he was a she before, and now is a he but partially. And a Lesbian. Ok... thats' all clear now. Oh geez... I need a drink...(walking off)
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Make mine a Sangría, please..
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How about leaving these new parents alone? Is it any of our business? If I decide to have another kid, should I run it by everyone in BC first in order to make sure my spouse and I have everyone's approval?
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Okay markstoneman, I'll not continue to get down the cases more further.
But don't forget, we still have a right to speech. You're delimitating the freedom of speech. Sorry I have to say that. -
Mark, they went on Oprah! None of us would know anything about them if they didn't feel like (rather loudly) advertising. Honest, I didn't start my day thinking to look for this story. And I never once heard either partner ask for privacy. They seemed to be enjoying their 15 minutes of fame.
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Yes, I agree. If they did not want the media buzz, then stop announcing your perspective that a man is pregnant, when in fact, it is fully natural for a biological woman to get pregnant.
Having babies is a distinct NATURAL ability given only to women. Beautiful. -
globalgirl, I am rapidly becoming your number one fan.
But I promise not to say it again, I'd hate to wreck your ratings. -
@ Don ~ Maybe they assumed that nobody watches Oprah, now leave them alone dammit!! -
@offended: Pulease....
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Plus, It's not like Oprah typically goes digging for stories. People are banging down her door to get on the show. So, most likely this woMAN wanted the attention.
Personally, I envy the woMAN. People tell me all the time to go F myself, this person actually can
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Shhh, we are supposed to give them their privacy now!!
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I believe i ever wrote this, somewhere here on BC discussion... "Individuals have rights and there are things no person or group may do to them"
Talking about this guy ~ male pregnancy / gay/ lesb/ polygamy i see human rights. Right to believe, feel and want...
So, personally, it's fine by me if there's a pregnant man. I'm thinking... perhaps i will let my husband do the pregnancy and i'll go tralalala with my friends
less hurt for me, though i prefer the natural way...
But i understand how you feel Dree, with the technology invention today, you're afraid if your 'soon to be your wife' refused to get pregnant and let you do the pregnancy thing HAH! admit it lol... this thread is about that rite?
(duh')
I admired what Thomas said on Oprah show "Different is normal and love makes a family. And that's all that matters" It's a bold move and this guy must have alot of love...-
LOLMAO.. Hahaha genoo, you make me laugh!
Hey you are my future wife, so then now.. am really afraid to have you -if you said so ("perhaps i will let my husband do the pregnancy", red.) -
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Thomas Beatie is a transexual who only had tetosterone injections, but did not have full gender realignment operation, so in effect he is still female and therfore able to have a child, so is he the first man to have a baby?-
Dunno.. hehe
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oooohhhhpheeewww... i just read again... ok ok he was a she then.. i thought they really able to make male pregnant.
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Oh no GENOOO... where have you been!! LOL
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I was hopping someone would do the pregnancy not me
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My opinion is that if she changed to be a man in the first place and wanted to act like a man then why should she then want a baby? Not very manly, she obviously still has female feelings, so question is does she have doubts about the sex change?-
I am all about diversity. Can't say more about it, there always have pro and contra. It is our world to take care of.
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HEY I'M BACK I MADE YOU THAT SANGRIA....
HEY Where is everybody, maybe off making babies...-
You are funny..
Thanks for the Sangria!
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My opinion is that this situation is disgusting, sick and wrong. If a person feels he or she is in the wrong body, I would question their sanity rather than their gender. They need psychological help to adjust their mind to reality.-
Your honesty is refreshing.
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this is terrible and UN ethical to all those that really fear and respect their God
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Correct me if I am wrong but males don't have the tolerance to pain that women have. And why would you want that? It's a scary thought. I was in college when they showed this film about actual labor. I felt myself getting dizzy. I had weak legs going out of the conference room.
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